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JD (45,860) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It's no surprise that she fired JD. I have nothing to say against the guy on his managerial skills, as until now we still don't know what really transpired behind the scenes, including the terms he and Mariah have agreed upon and if they did meet each other's expectations as far as doing their respective parts is concerned. And even though the guy was responsible for a few subpar, same-y Mimi material through the years (hello, E=MC2 ballads), he also was fundamental in the creation of some of her vital recordings. I hope there's no bad blood between the two and that it was an amicable split. I'd still want them to collaborate someday, as YDKWTD and MILG prove that old dogs can learn new tricks, but for now, I hope this firing is a sign of Mariah finally reevaluating her team and making necessary changes that will hopefully work to her advantage. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 14:37)

Heavenly news (45,859) by Ken from USA JD, you will not be missed. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 14:18)

JD (45,857) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So JD is gone. Whether this is good or bad only depends on Mariah actually. I personally didn't mind JD being her manager. The guy is talented as a producer and is immensely supportive of Mariah. I don't like the headlines "MC fires JD after album flop". Was the flop really JD's fault? A lot of people have been blaming JD for not promoting the album, for not being a good manager, for not getting singles right, for not delivering the album on time. But is it really JD's fault? Everytime I heard his interviews he mostly seemed annoyed and hinted that he has major plans for the album but is unable to act on it. There has many times he implied either MC or the label is not listening to him. The album delay was not his fault, MC was not happy with the finished product. The singles were not also his fault, I am more than sure he didn't get to choose it. As for the promotions, I don't think JD didn't try. Some people have mentioned here that MC is probably not promoting because she wants to spend more time with her family and her priorities changed because of kids. So JD can't obviously force her to leave her kids and promote the album. Yes Benny was good for Mariah but she only listened to him in 2005 when she needed to re-establish herself because people had written her off. But once she went back to top, Benny couldn't control her anymore, look at what happened during E=MC2. And then Benny was discarded. In the last 2 years Mariah changed 3 managers. While I agree that hiring friends as managers is not a good idea, I think Mariah really needs to let go of some control. She is an genius singer/songwriter. She can control all aspects of the conception, writing, recording, production of the album. However once the album is completed she should let go of the control a little bit and allow the professionals to handle it. Otherwise no matter who her manager is, it wouldn't matter, no one will be able to save a project which the artist itself has abandoned or misdirected. Bring on the hate messages, I don't care, it's the truth. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 13:50)

There is more (45,856) by Jen from Manila from Philippines Whatever this move by MC I/we all her avid fans are hoping for the best for her. Ms. Mariah Carey has more to offer in the music industry. I just don't know why people chose crap music instead of her beautiful songs. Must be the people in her recording company, her staff etc., I myself don't know anymore. Her latest album is not a bad one actually it is good and it has a lot of wonderful songs. Her songs are real from the heart very well-written plus her voice. Maybe we should re introduce Mimi to the young ones. All the best to the queen Mariah Carey. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 12:43)

I don't feel no ways tired (45,855) by Gilles from Malta (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 12:24)

MimiLamb (45,854) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It really is a cycle, a vicious one that leaves no winners or losers at its wake. It would first start as a simple disagreement that escalates into a fan vs. critic debate and then someone like us, tired of the same old story chimes in just to try to remind everyone just how pointless it is. It's become a regular part of this board. Like clockwork. I've yet to learn how to ignore it every time it happens. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 11:02)

JD (45,853) by Abraham from USA So no more JD. As much as I love the guy, I'd say it's for the best. Jermaine is very talented, but he isn't manager material. I think we would all agree that we want the best for Mariah. And want to see her be more successful. I'm hoping she will get her 19th number one someday. Let's hope Kevin does his best and helps Mariah get back to the top where she belongs. "MIAMTEC" shows that Mariah is still a great artist, singer, song writer and producer. It's one of her best albums. I'm excited now. Things might turn around. Will she be re releasing the album with those 3 or 4 new songs? (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:53)

Gilles, thanks for pointing it out (45,852) by May from Denmark I wanted to mention thanks for pointing out to the Cleveland song. I hit the submit button too fast. I need an "edit" button. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:47)

At Gilles (45,851) by May from Denmark He was asking about the intro though. I think she used it set the mood with the rest of the song, as an uplifting and encouraging feeling. "I've come too far from where I started from. Nobody told me that the road would be easy, I don't believe He brought me this far to leave me." That's the part from Cleveland song that she added in Heavenly. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:37)

Firing JD (45,850) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom If Mariah has fired JD, I think it's definitely a step in the right direction, but only as long as she has hired someone who she will actually listen to. Whether Kevin Liles is that person, I don't know. He seems like a friend, and I hope that is not the case. I do hope that she has done it in the right way and does not make JD a scapegoat for what has been her less than stellar behaviour over the past year or so. Irrespective of whether we like or dislike JD, or our views on his tenure as her manager, one thing that can't be denied is his unwavering support of Mariah. I hope she has treated him with respect, and does not disregard his loyalty by making him a scapegoat. With all that being said, it had to be done, but Mariah needs more than new management, she needs a new attitude, work ethic and dedication to her unique selling point; her voice. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:37)

At Andy (45,849) by May from Denmark The intro lyrics from Heavenly are: "Folks will taking advantage of you because they believe you're too weak to speak up for yourself, you don't have to speak up for yourself, be still and let God fight your battles." I'm sure it can be interpret as God protecting you from those who try to harm you, so you don't need to speak up because God is there watching over you, guiding you and helping you go through any trouble, so while you don't need to say anything, you can take all the blunt because God will heal you and he will take care of the people who hurt you. So you don't have to speak for yourself because while they might think you are weak, they don't know God is in you and he will help you out in times of need. She didn't specify a passage for this phrase but it's common in the Bible to find such passages (yes, there are plenty because there were plenty of fights and wars) where God's people are being given courage before going to battle their enemies, saying that God will slay them all so don't need to fear if they stand still and say nothing, God will give his people salvation and will fight their battles and that God will be with them as long as they seek and find him but if they forsake him he will forsake them. To clarify, I have no religious affiliation and I'm a secular humanist, so to me the whole lyrics do nothing but I love the vocals in it. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:33)

Intro of Heavenly (45,848) by Gilles from Malta Hello. To answer to your question, it is a cover. She used the original intro of James Cleavland. You can find the original song on YouTube: Noways Tired James Cleavland. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:22)

At RJJ12 / Matt Summers (45,847) by May from Denmark RJJ12, no offense taken. I don't get offended by anything, I think being offended serves of nothing haha. I was just pointing out the weight thing, not accusing of anything, only to clarify because I think she does look great and she is no longer 20. I agree with you about JD suggesting things and she not taking much into consideration, and that's what I was referring to about mixing friendship with work, perhaps he didn't want to upset her so he wouldn't push things he should of have. I think the change is going to be great. Matt, I wasn't expecting her dancing with "bananas locas" lol your comment made me giggle a lot with the whole description, but while I agree that she started her career the way you mentioned (mostly because she didn't have experience yet) she evolved and we got superb performances like when she sang Joy To The World at the Saint John church there around the 90s and since then that energy it has been her staple, her tours are full of that vibe, only that now she also adds the whole couch diva act which I think is fun and looks nice for some songs. So what I was expecting for an exploding song like Meteorite? I did expect a bit more movement. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 10:10)

Good step forward (45,846) by May from Denmark I actually think it is great finally the JD era has come to an end and Mariah has moved on with a new manager. I like JD but it obviously was one of those things MC should have given it double thought before, he has been her bestie since forever and I don't think it went that well mixing friendship with work. Hopefully now it will all settle, they will keep being friends, maybe do some good music in the future again and MC albums will start going around once more. It's been known that JD was gonna step down from management but it took really long for the final decision. I'm really eager to see what's going to happen next. About Migrate I totally was expecting a single back in its days, it was so good. I don't know specifically what happened back then with her album and why the sudden disappearance, but it would have been a big hit after the success of Touch My Body, that song gained Mariah a lot of new fans and it probably was one of the most fun albums Mariah released in my opinion. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 9:53)

Heavenly lyrics (45,845) by AnKo from Germany Hi there. This question goes out to the Christians of you. Why did MC used the reference "You don’t have to speak up" as an intro of the song? I feel like the preaching part stands contrary to the lyrics of the song. Wouldn't you have to speak up for yourself in order to survive or overcome a burden? Surly you can ask God for strength but still you need to open your mouth yourself. .And I am sure Miss Carey had to speak up a lot for herself in the music industry to become such a huge star. So why did she choose this opening passage? Please explain to a stupid atheist. Thank you. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 9:48)

Ken, not moving (45,844) by OGmattyICE from US I'm right with you on that one. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with her being statuesque on stage. In fact that's the way she's done it since basically her debut. All there needs to be is a microphone mixed with Mariah's voice, and if you have that, you have pure gold. I mean really, would you rather see her "twerking" and dancing with inflatable penises like some "anonymous" artists are doing today? No. She holds herself to a higher standard than to do something like that, and I find inspiration from that and model my integrity after her and love her even more for not doing it. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 9:36)

Full support (45,843) by Jen from Manila from Philippines I only focus on her genuine talent, her voice most is here music. I can only support Mariah Carey with the small things I do like posting on Facebook and Twitter anything about her and her music, buying her album. My only concern really is her music the way she creates a mood to her avid fans or just a listener of her songs. Admit it the lyrics on her music (aside from the melody and all) is such wonderful. Listening to all her albums (everyday yeah one album after the other hehehe), it makes my day listening to her songs. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 8:51)

NYHotShotta / Migrate (45,842) by Edward from USA NYHotShotta, just to clarify that Mariah didn't want to release Migrate as the second single as you stated in your post, let's not blame the label for everything, they were fully supportive of Mariah during this period. When Perez Hilton, who was an avid Mariah hater back then, was bashing Mariah because he thought that Migrate would be the second single, Mariah stated to him that Migrate wouldn't be the second single, that she had been doing this for a long time, and that she knew what she was doing, that new single would be a ballad. Mariah pulled the plug on E=MC2, and that's a fact. That era could've been great, but it started getting messy. Single choice and Mariah disappearance kill the momentum. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 3:33)

Mariah's new manager (45,841) by G.G. from USA Billboard is reporting that Kevin Lyles is Mariah's new manager. I think that is great, if Mariah is willing to listing to promo and business advice. If she is no longer willing to listen to her manger/label/PR people then why have them? Like it or not, Mariah's most successful times have been when she had great managers and label execs behind her, Tommy Mattola, Benny Medina etc. It's blatantly obvious that no matter how good an album is, if you don't have a strong, capable manager and label (that you listen to) behind you, then your album might flop. I hope that MC isn't at a point where she won't take advice from her label/manager. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 3:01)

JD out (45,838) by Kyle from USA Billboard is reporting JD has been fired as Mariah's manager. Here's hoping. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 2:55)

JD gone (45,837) by 123 from USA So no sooner than I post that Mariah wasn't going to have JD as her manager for very much longer, it gets confirmed. I wondered why Kevin Liles was with her when she went to the Hercules premiere. He appeared more like a handler than one of her guests. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 2:30)

May (45,836) by 123 from USA You are more than likely right, I'm probably reading too much into it. I didn't mean to offend about the comment about her dress and agree with your view on how the entertainment industry expects everyone to be stick thin. I believe either extreme is not healthy. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 2:07)

Mariah's banging (45,835) by nikki from usa I had no problem discerning Mariah's live vocals from the playback throughout and loved that she belted along with the chorus creating that wonderful "stacked" sound. I know everyone expects Mariah to sing all 7 parts at the same time live even in lei of back up singers, but I've come to expect that on this board. Clearly this tour is truly going to be an innovative marketing of sorts as she's really pushing the Butterfly drink which is a gateway to behind the scenes. If her tour takes her to the States I might buy one. I used to find it funny how other people like to claim Mariah's only famous in the US when most of her tours take her everywhere but here. Lol. Has Europe or Asia ever missed out on an MC tour? It's ironic now, how her album is more successful internationally than here. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 1:44)

Re: RJJ12 from USA (45,834) by NYHotShotta from USA Also the reason E=MC2 didn't do well was the choice in singles. After Touch My Body the other singles couldn't translate well. Mariah wanted to release Migrate as the second single but the label wanted to go with the uptempo first single/ballad second single formal like with TEOM but had they listened to Mariah that probably would have been better for the album. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 1:29)

MC speech (45,833) by May from Denmark At RJJ12: I thought the speech was great, loved all the improvisation, the little singing to the fans, even the comment "accused of influencing some upcoming singers" was a fun touch. Really you felt tension with JD? I didn't have that impression, I re-watched just now and didn't see anything out of the ordinary, JD did point to the toddlers but maybe just did it to remind her just to add something about them or maybe was a cue to start closing the speech, it could be many things. I loved the dress she came with to the stage. Why people are always expecting women to look like sticks? She looked gorgeous in both dresses, I think we all know she is no fan of the gym but she looked very well and pretty. While I question myself sometimes a couple of her late years wardrobe choices, the long dresses all look great on her. Wasn't this show performances already tapped like months ago? Surely wasn't live, was it? Maybe just the awards handling and speeches. (Tuesday 5 August 2014; 0:57)

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