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Album AD is not in the sales paper (44,277) by Gilbert from USA I just noticed (and at first I was bummed because I initially thought that the special edition from Target was only available online, because that what the site says, then I asked my brother who works there and he said he had them and at the time there were only a few left). So her CD is not announced in the AD and I checked BestBuy the same thing so what's up with that? But either way if you reflect back to my post my brother and the sales rep at BB was saying that the CD's were selling. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 21:06)

Better promotion (44,276) by Manny from U.S. I would read the messageboard and thought people were referring to the WMA as the NBC special. I didn't know she has a special on Saturday night on NBC until I did more research. I go to the TV guide online and it's called "Mariah Carey: At Home in Concert with Matt Lauer". This time I am irritated with the Mariah team. Get it together. If the fans are not getting all the info, imagine the other people? When did they mention the special? I only saw people here speaking of it and just refer to it as an NBC special. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 20:35)

Underestimated sales prediction (44,275) by Anonymous from How in the world they come up with these numbers? I didn't pre-order my album and none of my friends did either. But I just got the album and my friend did too. When I bought the album the person ringing me up didn't even know she had one coming out and asked me more about it, so I did tell her about it and that it's a amazing album. So Mariah's lambs plus people that don't know should make this go up if they advertise right. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 19:42)

Thanks for the messages (44,274) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Thanks to everyone who has replied to me. I'm glad that's how I come across as that's how I intend it. I genuinely do enjoy discussions and reading all kinds of opinions and reflections on Mariah's music and eras. Eternal, I'm glad I made you chuckle, I almost deleted it as I didn't want to come across too sarcastic but at that point I just couldn't help it. Some of my comments are meant in jest and good humour so I'm glad that's how they're perceived. Randy, I enjoyed our conversation. Sunshine, what a lovely message. Your messages do come across well to me. I think you're doing a fine job with English. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and convey your thoughts and feelings in a language that isn't your first so I think to come across as well as you do is great. And it's nice that we have a community of posters from all over the world. It's another thing that makes this website so great. So thanks as always to Eric for all the hard work in keeping up such a wonderful community. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 18:58)

Pic (44,273) by nOVA from USA Hi webmaster, can you please turn my profile pic? (Thursday 29 May 2014; 18:50)

Oops (44,272) by Me. I am Carly from USA Haha maybe the webmaster will catch my mistake. I looked again and see the special was actually set for end of the month. Still any idea if this is coming to us then? (Thursday 29 May 2014; 18:08)

Will there be a NBC special today? (44,271) by Me. I am Carly from USA Today if I understood correctly is the day that Mariah was to have a special air, correct? Does anybody have info on this? Mariah said on the Today Show that she was saving" Thirsty" performance for the special. I understand that it may have been impacted by the awards show mishaps, any clue? This is what I have been waiting for in regards to publicity and just generally wanting to see myself. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 18:06)

Re: Gilbert plus Me I Am (44,270) by Tony from Ireland I have to say that I feel so delighted with Mariah's new album. I think it is perfect although I feel some people don't think the same. The songs that I listen to the most are: Supernatural, Faded, You Don't Know and Cry, but I don't skip any song. She really knows how to make a good record. Pitty that sales are not going as good as they should, but one more thing I will say. I don't care. She has nothing to show to the world, she's the queen. Love and peace. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 17:52)

Mariah (44,269) by Gilbert from USA Hey guys, just wanting to see how everyone is enjoying the CD. Yes I know some hate it and some love it and really this isn't to make a big who-ha about that. I just wanted to know which tracks you've been listening to most. Mine of course as I've always said is Thirsty, but I'm sure loving Make it Look Good. Anyone know what Mariah is saying toward the end of Thirsty (I've googled lyrics, but haven't found the ad-libs added to the lyrics)? So far I've picked up "let see the stars on the boulevard" (I think) "that VIP you got what you see, up in the club you keeping on eyein' me". (Thursday 29 May 2014; 17:26)

(44,267) by SC from USA First of all, I would like to congratulate everyone on the quality of this album. It really gave me a feeling that I didn't feel since TEOM album. Bravo. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that we now have several issues going on with regards to the promo and future success of the album. MC created a great product, so we now need to spread the word to make sure the general public connects with it and listens to it. All of a sudden things got silent after the WMA situation and headlines came up with regards to MC being late and now the broadcast was "postponed" in the US. Come on. We all know what that means. NBC will no longer play it any time soon. Unfortunately for MC and the album's performance, this was one of two prepared promos for the album. The general public now only has an NBC special on Saturday night to hear about the album. Big problem? Saturday nights are not the most watched evenings in US TV, especially in the summer time. Monte Carlo took two days to shoot and fly to, so we lost some time to promote the LP, the team needs to reassess the situation and kickstart some damage control promo now. We all saw the sales predictions, so that's obviously an eye opener that we have a situation in our hands. She's in NYC, why can't she perform the album at some of the talk shows? Take Coldplay for instance. They always have great sales, but last week they performed several times across NBC programs. That's the promo that you need these days to spread the word. MC seems to have a good relationship with NBC, then let's get her to some of these shows. Another concern is that the MC website still looks like a Memoirs site with no new information. How odd is that? 99.9% of official websites usually create hype for the album. The point is not to be negative, the point is to express my concern due to the fact that the product it excellent and this album needs to be heard. Let's make that happen. Fans can only do so much, but the rest depends on the artist and its team. The album won't be heard on its entirety if people don't know about it. Reviews can do so much, but it just concerns me that an artist of MC's caliber can't do the promo needed for a comeback. Her previous LPs were excellent in my eyes, but the public didn't fully connect with them, so this is a critical point that may affect her legacy. We are not complaining, we are looking for answers if you have a plan that will benefit this album. At this point we all know that she needs to go out there and perform songs. I see this marketing campaign so far as an effort to connect with fans through social media outlets, and that's great, but Q&A sessions can only do so much. The public needs to see her everywhere right now. We know you are capable, so please help us make this album the success that it deserves. "We all need to make this happen", but to her team: [...] I'm sure you understand our concerns. MC, don't give up. Thank you for a great album. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 16:12)

Get me off this label (44,266) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter A lot of people are saying that MC is not promoting the album and her singles because she doesn't care and just wants to get off the label. While it may be true that she wants to get out, but I don't believe that she doesn't care about her album bombing. Come on, we are talking about a woman who is terribly self conscious and is used to bragging about her #1 hits (I am not saying this negatively, it's just a fact), so it's hard for me to see why Mariah would just sit and allow her albums to bomb because at the end of the day, we may blame the record company for not doing it's work, but the GP and critics and chart positions will scream "the MC album flopped" not that the "Island album flopped". People are negative about Mariah as it is, would she really want to tarnish her legacy further by giving out an under performing album (despite the fact that she worked night in and night out to turn it into a masterpiece)? I don't know what's wrong, but I won't buy it that MC doesn't care what happens to the album. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 15:45)

Darryle / MC promo (44,265) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I saw the Robert video and it was so cute. And I laughed out loud at the parts where he was singing TAOLG while running and the part where MC and Robert started talking about how dumb the record company is for not releasing some good singles. She looked like a kid complaining to her friend about a teacher that didn't give good marks lol. I know I have said this many times, but seriously where are the promos? Why isn't she scheduled on Ellen, Kimmel, Fallon and all the other interviews in the world? Why are there no more magazine articles? And where is the "lead" single. Yes yes I know #Beautiful is the official lead, but that was a year ago, and YME was downgraded to buzz single so that's gone too. So where is the single that will launch this album? (Thursday 29 May 2014; 15:40)

Anthony Basco from Wales (44,264) by Sunshine Divalamb from Germany The last few messages you posted I can only sit here nod my head and say amen because it's to the point. I could have written them, if my English would have alowed it but it hinders me to express myself accurately sometimes. I'm the female version of you so to say looking at your last message and I just want to say thank you for putting in words what a lot of us feel/mean. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 15:03)

Robert (44,263) by Darryle from USA Has anyone see the Robert video yet? I saw it and it's hilarious and sweet all at the same time. Robert is the true definition of a devoted die hard lamb. This video really shows how much love Mariah has for us lambs. She signed photos and took pics and talked to him while he was running next to her car. If this was any other person they probably would have just shut the window and left but Mariah stayed and had a mini conversation. I hope Robert gets his Instagram follow. This video just made me like 1000 times more proud to be a lamb. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 15:02)

Anthony (44,262) by Eternal from Italy I've enjoyed reading your replies to Randy and Marcel. I think you're really articulate and you managed to put your point across without sounding offensive or defensive to anyone. Unfortunately to people who have already made up their minds that MC's voice is shot or the album is a flop, there's no way to convince them otherwise. People who loathe something are normally more vocal about it than people who like something. At the end of the day, Mariah Carey is a product for her audience (fans, lambs or just casual listeners). That's why she is right in putting her family as her priority - they are the only people who treat her as a human being, flaws and all. This line of yours to Marcel cracked me up though: "But I forget, you wouldn't have time to read those posts, as you're too busy having a life." (Thursday 29 May 2014; 14:08)

MIAMTEC physical CD sold out in HMV Singapore (44,261) by Raden Ratna Kesuma Joe-Yo from Singapore Well, when the U.S. predicted her sales for this coming week projected only 65,000 - 70,000 units, in some other countries the physical CD all sold out and my country affecting too. So what does it suppose to mean? [...] Now I need to wait for the next week to purchase the CD, even though I bought it on iTunes. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 13:45)

Damage control (44,260) by Darryle from USA I think Mariah needs some damage control to help promote this album. She needs to come off as more down to earth and more likable. She has to get rid of or a least tone down the ditzy diva image. It's not relatable and people want to buy music from those than can relate. Less dahlings and saying stupid stuff like splashes and "I've never had a normal job". She also could use a good stylist. It's always black and long with cleavage. That's so boring. Whoever dressed her on AI needs to come back asap. Mariah has legs for days but she only wears a slit or short dress occasionally. I understand the diva image and dahling stuff is apart of Mariah that we have to accept which is ok but it doesn't mean we have to put up with it all the time. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 13:03)

Mimi (44,259) by iam_a_spnglr from Philippines I love Faded, Meteorite, YDKWTD, One More Try and Heavenly. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 13:00)

Official website (44,258) by Lee from UK I agree with Randy that it is a little suspicious that Mariah's official website hasn't been updated. The only hint about a new album on Mariah's website is a small block playing "Thirsty". There is no reference to her website in any of the Facebook updates either. Only links to iTunes. In a way this makes sense as it is directing people directly to the music. Facebook is actually posting MIAM as part of its direct advertising as my partner, who dislikes Mariah's music, keeps getting pretty large adverts for the album amongst his news feed (not the ones that I am sharing either). I suppose in this day and age if you are going to connect with an artist, the first place you would look would be their Facebook page as opposed to their official website. The only reason I look at official websites these days is for back catalogue information and tour updates. I wonder if it's a cost cutting exercise. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 12:32)

Your questions answered (44,257) by Lee from UK I am one of those people who have been waiting for Mariah to produce something outstanding since 1997. There are other fans on this board who have been waiting 17 years. Some "lambs" here have been questioning why we are waiting. Why are we sticking around? Why haven't we moved on? Why don't find another artist to adore? Well, let me address these questions. Firstly, every time Mariah writes a new album there is a certain amount of targeting at her "old fans" with slogans such as "the return of the voice" or "she hasn't sounded this good since the 90s" or "this album is nostalgic of her earlier work". This comes from producers she is working with and record companies so of course we are going to stick around to see if Mariah actually delivers on this promise. Secondly, many of us have found other artists to adore, it just wouldn't be appropriate to bang on about them on a Mariah Carey forum. Clearly we are still fans of Mariah otherwise what would be the point of a 31 year old taking time out of his day to write messages about a singer to a bunch of people he doesn't know? Some of you are on the cusp of accusing us of trolling. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 12:25)

Album sold out at Target (44,256) by Jpark from USA As a fan, I really did my part in supporting Mariah's new album. I preordered the deluxe album on iTunes, I bought both the deluxe and regular CDs, and I wanted to buy the exclusive Target edition (with America The Beautiful song) but it was sold out. As or right now, I bought 3 copies of the new album. I don't understand why the first week sales is projected at round 60,000. I'm pretty sure we can prove that wrong as long as we support Mariah and buy more of her albums. I did my part, did you? (Thursday 29 May 2014; 9:58)

Marcel (44,255) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales The reason you are particularly frustrating is one line you keep using "MC is not my life, I have a life and I live it". Well guess what? So do I. I come here to discuss Mariah, her music and her persona because that's a hobby of mine and something I'm passionate about (I'm also very passionate about video games and also post at a video games site). But guess what? I have a very good, well paid demanding job, a lot of friends, a big family and a husband so believe me, my life is very full and happy itself, thank you very much. You hear guys talking about sports together all the time - that's a guy thing. I don't really have the luxury of taking for granted that everyone I meet is an MC fan and will discuss with me her voice, this album, that lyric etc. It just doesn't happen, so I come here to discuss with (for the most part) like-minded people. It's just people discussing an interest or a hobby. I am in no way obsessed and stalkerish who's only goal in life is "all hail Queen Mariah". I am a humongous lamb, and proud, but when all is said and done, I do enjoy doing all the things "normal" people do. And you make me laugh with your comments - if you bother to read my posts, 3 of my top 5 MC albums were 90's (2 the "holy grail" that you consider, coming before '97, those being Emotions and Daydream). But I forget, you wouldn't have time to read those posts, as you're too busy having a life. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 9:09)

WTF is going on? I need to rant and MC needs to slap someone (44,254) by Mark from United States As an obsessive music fan, I've never seen an album release handled this way before. I know that it's all about the music and not the sales, but that's my whole point. This is all way beneath an artist at Mariah's level and this album as a whole. I don't blame her, JD, or fellow lambs for the projected first-week sales. I blame the heaping pile of crap that is her record label. She gave them an excellent album and they dropped the ball, or rather just stood there and looked at it while it bounced past them. No official single since YME when there was at least 8 songs on the album that would have been better single choices to begin with. There is absolutely no reason another single couldn't have been given a solid radio and iTunes release at least a week ago to hype things up. Now we're left to hope that a single is going to be released that will give the album longevity and keep this era going. I'm not holding my breath. In today's industry if a big name's album doesn't do well in the first week it usually vanishes without a trace without any proper singles or further promotion (see: Britney Jean). I know this has all been said before but I'm angry as a fan and for Mariah herself. She's constantly the underdog even though she's proven herself countless times, but the difference this time is that she's not even being given a fair chance to do that. Don't mean to be a downer but this is becoming my fave album and I just know it deserves better. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 8:48)

The Elusive Chanteuse (44,252) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Having followed Mariah since the beginning, honestly, I was very skeptical of this moment in her career. The setbacks, controversies, etc lead me to believe that her focus was more on the "competition" and image than the music. I was completely wrong. After hearing this album in its entirety, which is what she says is key in every interview she's had regrading this work of art, I see that she is being nothing more than completely honest in this record. What I get from the album is that we see her career, her marriage, her family. The image of the American Dream, the image of success. What she is saying is that behind all of that, this is what she feels. This album tells stories of imperfection, longing, memories of love - not saying that she is not currently in love, but every relationship evokes different levels of love. It also tells me that her career may have taken the place of personal relationships and experiences which has her still longing for fulfillment in some aspects. This is her most raw and honest in my opinion. I love every second of it, nothing is contrived or reaching. This is not an album of radio hits, she is not focusing on that. For once she is being selfish in the best way possible. She is doing what an artist does, creating something that she enjoys and that she wants more of in the world: her music her way. The Elusive Chanteuse: the singer that has secrets, mystery, and complexity that is not sitting on the surface. Cheers Mariah. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 7:50)

There is no wrong or right (44,251) by Sunshine Divalamb from Germany I have to lol when I see people trying to explain why this album isn't good and why others (including myself) are wrong for liking it. Who cares? It's someone's opinion to say I do or don't like it, there is no wrong or right with that. It all has something to do with taste. I can accept when people say I don't feel it with this album but come on is it really necessary giving your negativity with each post that's put up here? Don't like it means moving on to something better so why stick around? Saying she didn't release anything good in 17 years shows me you never been a fan, and talking like the lambs are just dumb followers is bullshit. It's a nickname she gave us. I have been a fan since 1990, and I liked this journey with Mariah. Each album has songs I like and songs I don't does that mean I follow her and agree with every little thing she does? No. It means she can't make an album were all the fans/lambs/supporters will say "we all love the whole album". Some that are negative take it way more serious than some of us (blindly following) lambs. Don't like it, don't buy it and just move on, some please forever tbh. (Thursday 29 May 2014; 7:49)

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