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Re: Mariah's ex back in the picture? (65,021) (65,024) by Susana from USA On TMZ, the video where the guy is rapping to Mariah using cardboard. I noticed Mark Sudack near the end of the video. If you blink, you'll miss it. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 23:26)

Re: Perfect example (65,022) (65,023) by Andrew from UK Good post. Agree she's not vulgar although I have probably vented that to myself at some point in frustration. But that's the point. This is all so frustrating. I *know* what Mariah Carey can be. I used to big her up to anybody who dared taketh her name in vain. Not vulgar. Just lacking decorum and class. I can't get behind that. I want it to change. But if this is who she is, well, spells the end of the career, doesn't it. Nobody's gonna buy. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 21:47)

Re: Perfect example (65,016) (65,022) by Mirage_Nunez from America Actually I don't feel that Mariah's purpose of showing off her body is to "attract men". I believe she does it because "she" likes the way she looks and feels in what she's wearing and its fun for her to play dress up. I'm sure Mariah never had trouble attracting men, whether she's an A cup, Z cup, wearing a potatoe sack, or a lace bikini. I can agree that her fashion has had a lot of misses when it comes to showing skin, but in my opinion Mariah always carries herself like a lady regardless of what she's wearing. She knows how to properly sit with her legs closed, she know how to get out of vehicles without exposing herself, she's always aware of the camera angles etc. She doesn't give off "vulgar" or "crass" to me whatsoever. She's not the most exposed celebrity out there ask Rihanna, Beyonce, Nicki, Madonna, Gaga and others. And her boobs don't even look fake, they actually look very natural and nice. I can't be mad at her, because I would be them showing off too. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 20:33)

Re: Mariah's ex back in the picture? (65,005) (65,021) by Julie from France Where did you see that? (Saturday 6 August 2016; 18:48)

Re: Perfect example (65,014) (65,020) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Licia, incase you were losing sleep over what the rest of the dress looks like, I got you covered. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 18:45)

Re: Mariah reminds me a lot of Aretha (65,013) (65,019) by RibbonB from USA Here is that NYT review, there is another one out there too, but this really hits on stuff. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 17:14)

Re: Mariah reminds me a lot of Aretha (65,013) (65,018) by RibbonB from USA The truth will come to the light I am sure. You must read Respect, it came out a year or so ago. Google the New York Times review of it, it encapsulates a lot of what I was talking about. There are so many talented yet troubled divas. The bio really digs into Aretha's life and song writing and her contribution to music. The writer has receipts as he wrote excellent bios, on legends like Ray Charles, and Marvin Gaye and he has years of interviews. The parallels to Aretha and her family compared to Mariah and hers is staggering. There is love and closeness, yet great distance and distrust at times. Aretha was also very competitive with other female singers of her time. She could be generous, but cutting if you crossed her. Lol. It is called Respect by David Ritz. And yes, Miss Patti is truly unique and gifted though not one of my top faves. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 16:56)

Re: Will the real MC please step to the mic? (65,015) (65,017) by RibbonB from USA Thanks I respect your opinions too. We both and most of us really just want Mariah to be ok. She picked this route, I hope it is not too perilous. Thanks for reminding me of those articles. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 16:48)

Re: Perfect example (65,014) (65,016) by Andrew from UK O Licia, you miss the point, though. It's not about the quality of the visual when she has the Cheech and Chong out, it's that she never puts them away. Several things are messed up in her head, one of which is that in the battle of getting attention for being fashionable and beautiful vs fake tits hanging out (every second of the day) she opts for the latter, despite it contributing to the public perception of her being a [censored] who loves herself some Mariah. It's like a drug addict telling you she doesn't want to stop taking drugs because they make her feel good despite the fact that it's completely ruining them lol it makes absolutely no bloody sense. If the breasts were real it might be a little better but the sentiment is essentially: "Aren't I hot with these breasts I bought? Please find me attractive or I don't feel qualified. Haha it's preposterous." What happened to the normal woman everyone respected? And final point (and one of extremely high import, I think you'll find): Is it just me or are her eyebrows about half a centimetre higher than they used to be? It looks like they're crawling away from her face. I'm glad you're posting again, Licia. Your picture makes me smile. You look so happy in it. Peace out. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 16:25)

Re: Will the real MC please step to the mic? (65,009) (65,015) by 123 from USA Ribbon you made some really good points and you always bring a perspective and receipts no one else does. I also respect your opinion. I do think you answered your own question though, Mariah needs a present day platform to have resurgence in her career and Packer definitely needs the money. I was really just discussing Mariah's career but you touched on something much deeper. Regardless of whether her relationship with him is genuine or not, there is a business arrangement between the two of them. He is definitely on the Mariah train betting on a financial comeback. Remember this article I posted a while ago? His 2 billion Alon project in Vegas is on hold. Here is another article where they had to sell Crown Resorts. He is losing money. In terms of her career is a big reward, however, you are correct, in terms of her life, finances, safety, and happiness, I just don't trust this connection. Maybe I'm wrong. If it doesn't work, we know she will fire Stella. Anytime there is a project failure, years of service nor decades of friendship saved Randy or Jermaine from getting the axe. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 4:42)

Perfect example (65,014) by Licia from USA This pic is a perfect example of Mariah having her assets on display yet she still looks nice. (Well she looks nice from the breasts on up. Who knows what's below? I'm hoping greatness. Lol.) She looks gorgeous. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 4:35)

Re: Mariah reminds me a lot of Aretha (65,010) (65,013) by Haiji Toro from USA Never read those books, but now I'm intrigued. I'll have to read the second one you spoke about. I do see what you mean by the similarites. I grew up on all those artists you mentioned, especially Sade. I absolutely love her music. I liked some of Chaka's music. I have great respect for her though, knowing that she's dealt with drug addiction most of her career, and recently checked herself into rehab. That takes a lot of courage and strength. One artist that I truly love both musically and personality wise would be Patti Labelle. That woman is in a league of her own. A true talent and spirit. I also agree with what you mean about Mariah's team of handlers and putting money first. It's unfortunate. I never thought that would be part of her life, but as you said, there's so much more behind all of this, even stuff no one will ever believe or want to. We will see soon though. The devil is a liar, and the truth will always come to light. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 4:32)

Re: Will the real MC please step to the mic? (65,008) (65,012) by Haiji Toro from USA Well said, RJJ12. Never thought of it like that, but makes sense. Personally, I never looked at it as a reality show. I know the difference. In my opinion, a reality show is more like The Real World, The Kardashians, Hip Hop Atlanta, etc. Well, most of those are semi-scripted. A docu-series to me would be more like (if anyone remembers or is a Brandy fan), she had a docu-series about her pregnancy, as well as her behind the scenes doing music and her then relationship with the baby's father. I really don't see a huge difference with this upcoming docu-series, Mariah's World, to any of her concert specials that she's done in the past (Here is Mariah Carey, Around the World, The Adventures of Mimi), other than it'll be aired in 8 parts on cable television, which actually is very smart for promo and financially. Not everyone can afford a DVD or even have HBO. With a series, if I miss an episode, I'll still get to watch reruns or other ways for free but tuning in will show ratings and exposure. What bothers me about it is the delays. In my opinion, our world has a very short attention span nowadays. Like someone stated before (I believe Mimi L, sorry if I'm wrong), but no one is gonna even remember or care by then. Why even promote it from now? I do think that December time is a good idea since (someone else stated), she rules Christmas time. That will definitely have most people forget about last year's Hallmark Christmas snooze she released, in my opinion. So with all that said, my theory for early promotion is that maybe the first promo we ever heard was intended for that once said June (or July, not sure) release, but somewhere along the way, Miss Stella Contour noticed that no music would be released anytime soon, and if no music is out, it means no relevancy (at least to this generation). So as someone else also stated (I think Andrew, or maybe Oscar Wilde, not sure), bad publicity is good publicity, that's when all those clips and snaps of drunk, partying, bra out Mariah came out. Unfortunately, we also live in a time where getting lit and turnt up is what it's all about, at least for the younger crowd (which is the right age dynamic from a business point of view). They're the ones tuning in and keeping celebrities relevant, sharing that new pic or clip on Snapchat, Twitter, IG, FB, ect. It's not like how it used to be back then, when talent kept you relevant. If this is indeed the game plan that Mariah's team has, I personally am saddened by it. As my mom says all the time, "I wish my children could have stayed cute, innocent babies forever, I miss those days." Well, I wish music and its industry could have stayed the way it was back then, I miss those days. I guess life goes on and we just have to adapt. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 4:01)

Mariah reminds me a lot of Aretha (65,010) by RibbonB from USA That is both a good thing and a bad thing. Aretha's biography called Respect is an amazing read, though not approved by Aretha. It is by David Ritz I believe, the same writer who wrote the authorized sanitized bio years before. That book was boring. Years later he released a book including things he really wanted to address. Aretha led an amazing life, but came from a tough background with lots of unspoken sorrows as one producer said. That is probably what helped her soulful singing delivery in addition to her natural talent. But in the book her long time publicist revealed that Aretha had a tendency to manufacture stuff, to plant stories and even to imagine things that were not true. I am not saying they are exactly alike, but there are some parallels in the two with their talent and how they deal with fame. Many people even the most talented are not satisfied with that, they want to stay in the public eye and be perceived a certain way, even if it is not always true. No judgement, just an observation. Aretha, Mariah, Chaka and Sade are my faves, I always say, but there is usually a lot more to the people behind the music. I hope Mariah lives a long illustrious life and maintains the musical respect like Aretha despite the extras and the questionable fashion sense that they both share. Lol. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 2:51)

Re: Will the real MC please step to the mic? (65,008) (65,009) by RibbonB from USA That sounded good my friend, but it sounds like she wants to be a dolphin swimming amongst the sharks. We know how that can go. But hey, the real MC might actually be a top sea predator coming up from the deep to swallow up the lesser species or something. Lol. Whatever her thought process is, she seems in it to win it, for the money, the fame or whatever. Strangely she needs none of that. Even stranger, neither does Packer allegedly. But a lot of people who are estimated worth this or that, actually have far less than that in their bank accounts and a lot of projections are far from reality, not to mention the heavy overhead Mariah carries with all the hangers ons and handlers. And people with money can still be greedy or insecure and thirsty for more. I might agree with you if she hadn't done so many stunts leading up to the release of this series, but her actions make her seem a little desperate and thirsty IMO. The other people I get it, even though I don't watch any of it. They make a real come up when their shows succeed, Mariah's is a comedown no matter how I look at it. Big, big risk with marginal reward for her. There is more to this than meets the eye IMO. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 2:42)

Re: Will the real MC please step to the mic? (64,978) (65,008) by 123 from USA The reason why she is trying to differentiate it from calling it a "reality show" is because the people that are usually cast in reality shows are talentless hacks with no real careers being filmed doing the most mundane things like eating salads, gossiping about each other, and then having big blow ups with each over only to make up and then fight again. Manufactured drama. At least Mariah is being filmed touring, sounding and looking great and selling out arenas. None of these reality stars have the talent, catalog, or intelligence to obtain a fraction of Mariah's success. She said during the Complex interview that she realizes that times have changed in regards to garnering attention. If sure she feels that if these reality stars can garner enough attention to have successful ventures where they are only slapping their name on all these products and demand they be considered "talented", she can play the same game, be a hell of a lot more entertaining, and push her music. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 2:07)

Re: 25 Times Mariah Carey's Instagram... (64,971) (65,007) by May from Denmark Somehow though, I feel that they are paying attention on Stella's camp. There aren't thousands of emoji anymore, no more million of hashtags, it's been weeks since the last pic of Mariah with Stella published on her Twitter and IG and Mishka seems to be learning some Mariahisms. There's some effort at least. I've been liking the late candid pictures. I am in love with her current photoshoot, finally Mariah looks audacious and as hot like in Emancipation. The red dress killed me, so perfect. I don't know about Packer, at times he seems very shy and introverted but it's like his hands are of another man, they are always touching in places hahaha. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 0:29)

Re: Human chair (64,996) (65,006) by May from Denmark No, there can't never be enough oiled men. I wished I had a human chair, sometimes I need opinions from my furniture when no one is around. Ofcourse you were not joking about Wendy, she is the most Mariah obsessed, bet she has MC picture fixed on top of her bed, the one on the throne haha. (Saturday 6 August 2016; 0:17)

Mariah's ex back in the picture? (65,005) by Ty from USA TMZ got Mariah leaving dinner with the photographer Mark audacity who she was dating back in the day. Oh this era gets weirder and weirder lol. (Friday 5 August 2016; 23:44)

Re: Mariah's Instagram picture lately (65,002) (65,004) by The Real Deal from USA I also forgot to mention that one of his latest ig posts is a photo with Boyz II Men. Hmmm. Maybe this is a Mariah tribute project? (Friday 5 August 2016; 21:27)

Re: Mariah's Instagram picture lately (64,949) (65,002) by The Real Deal from USA I agree. I am hoping that this is part of some "social experiment" that MC and her team are concocting in conjunction with the reality show. I am hoping that it is a type of "What Would You Do" segment that Mariah is on in, seeing if anybody would reach out to help her. The reason that I say this is because in all of the recent interviews (and press conference), Mariah seems very composed and down to earth as she always has, and it is definitely not reflective of the photos that we have been seeing of her on IG drunk, wasted, etc. This may also go into conjunction with her former dancer's post a few months back where he congratulated Bryan Tanka on his "new role". Let's hope that's what this is. (Friday 5 August 2016; 20:14)

Another MC remake/cover song in the works? (65,001) by The Real Deal from USA The singer Lovari (who previously posted an MC acapella on his FB page) uploaded a post on Instagram last night singing If It's Over, with the following caption: "Late night acapella vocal moments getting my Mariah Carey on. New album preview lamb lambily @mariahcarey (with her IG hashtag)." I'm assuming he is remaking If It's Over. Or is it a secret collab with MC? I doubt that because I don't think he is that well known. Reagrdless, still cool to see a younger generation covering her tracks, especially ones that weren't singles. His ig is @Lovari_ (Friday 5 August 2016; 20:09)

The View (65,000) by RibbonB from USA It was funny to see the ladies of the View try to figure out why Mariah is doing this reality show. They played the clip. Only Raven was really excited to see the show. She doesn't care if it's a train wreck. The other ladies seemed a little or a lot concerned. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I hope it ends well for Mariah, all things considered. (Friday 5 August 2016; 19:56)

Mirrored chair, psychological projection? (64,999) by Haiji Toro from USA I can only think of these two quotes. I'm just so speechless, I couldn't even come up with my own words. "She wasn't being methodological. She was being autobiographical." Steven L. Carter "You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting 'Vanity', thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for you own pleasure." John Berger (Friday 5 August 2016; 19:56)

Re: WTF? (64,986) (64,998) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Her diva stuff is a caricature. For whatever reason she likes the image. (BTW not defending, nor judging her either, I just don't expect her to suddenly drop it, at least not anytime soon lol.) She clearly gets something out of the way she has chosen to project her image. She's aware it doesn't exactly make her "accessible" to the general public. If she was concerned about that, she wouldn't purposely draw attention to it and joke about it. (Friday 5 August 2016; 18:43)

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