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I wasn't gonna even bother but... (61,864) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia I'm confused as to why everyone is acting so brand new on here. So let me get this straight. Mariah has a drink and sways in the club with a few backup dancers, while showing cleavage and now she the most despicable horrific none respect deserving bimbo on the planet? Oh please give me a freaking break. If anything many people can relate to "feeling hottamale" and having fun celebrating with friends. It's not like she's out every night partying in the clubs or (dare I say) always dressed like that anymore. Yes the lap dance was awkward, I mean even Mariah was like "okaaay that was a mess" but I'm sure it was done lightheartedly, impromptu and playfully. Why you mad? You all come on here and make a huge deal out of every little thing she does. If she shows cleavage she's "cheap and classless", if she wears a long modest ensemble she's "over dressed and unrelatable", if she's serious in interview she's "boring and robotic (Steve Harvey)", if she playful and fun in interviews (ET) she 's "annoying and never gives straight answers". I'm glad Mariah ignores the haters and just enjoys life because people will never be pleased and will always find something to complain about. That's what cynical pessimistic people do, sit back and always find something wrong, because they're not happy with themselves. If Beyonce can be acclaimed for singing/using vulgar lyrics and creating a creepy satanic looking video movie, if Madonna can show up at the Met Gala with duck tape on her boobs and her butt out at 50 something, if the beloved JLo can twerk half naked on people in her video named "Booty" and not have her age and the amount of kids she has thrown in her face then nobody should lift a foot to come for Mariah. Unlike their fanbases that promotes them and have their backs, Mariah's fan base drags her more than the public. And speaking of throwing things in people's face, I really wish you all would stop trying to throw the "wanting respect" thing in Mariah's face. For one: she said it like 20 years ago when she was "little Miss Perfect Mariah" that everyone yearns for today which would mean (by that logic) she had every right to want (and have) exactly that "the respect of the industry". I'm certain today's Mariah could care less if people like her or not, and I don't blame her. Haters are gonna hate, lovers are gonna love. Mariah will always be regarded as one of the best voices ever and the only thing she needs to boost her career (in my opinion) is maintain and continue to improve her voice, put out great music videos with storylines (like TEOM), airplay on the radio, and a great team behind her promoting her, and I believe she can reclaim success. She's not as bad as you all are making her out to be, knock it off. Lighten up, go get a drink and dance somewhere with your friends tonight. (Friday 6 May 2016; 19:18)

Re: M image (61,863) by Nikki from usa Not even close. Mariah's social media pages are filled with J.Lo, Eminem, and Minaj fans. Especially, her instagram. That's not the "public". I don't have any respect for people who partake in hypocrisy. She's not your next door neighbor, she's a celebrity and part of that is putting on a show. You'd have a shorter list if you named all the female celebrities that haven't tried some form of lap dance. That's not MC's first attempt either, she had a similar routine for Fantasy where she bitch-slaps a guy after. Mariah keeps herself relatively private, so the media makes up its own stories. She doesn't even have to be around for it. Public perceptions of Mariah changes with the tide since there's very little real information about her. Even with publications like Gossip Cop pointing out the BS the BS remains and continues to circulate. MC's success and popularity have never been about her clothing style, it about her voice. The "public" has never been a fan of her clothes whether they're sexy or she looks like a pastor's wife. That is nothing more than something to complain about. The only thing the public ever cares about when it comes to Mariah is the status of her voice and her music. It's amazing how a hit song changes the tides every time. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:58)

Re: A vicious cycle (61,852) (61,862) by King Lambassador from USA Mariah is Mariah. Why are her "fans" so obsessed with her having another hit? She has more than proven herself and she owes no one anything. You're saying she should act a certain way and do a certain thing so the general public can like her? If you truly think that, you are no better than her first husband. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:32)

Re: Mariah's image (61,854) (61,861) by King Lambassador from USA Mariah is [...] for being happy? For being confident with her body? Are you [censored] kidding me? That is a pathetic response. Just the fact that you would even insinuate that disgusts me. You are the worst kind of fan, wanting Mariah to do this and do that as if she is some type of trained show dog. She is a human being and free to so what she likes. So she sat on her dancer's lap on stage for all of 10 seconds? She had fun and that's what matters. We should be supportive of that, not finding ways to bring our idol down. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:29)

Re: A vicious cycle (61,855) (61,860) by King Lambassador from USA You can be concerned without spewing negativity and hatred. You do nothing to help support Mariah but instead try to tear her down and then say you are the for her. Are you kidding me? Mariah is obviously very happy with her life right now and her body and we should be nothing but supportive of her. It's not our job to control her life and tell her what she can and can't do, it's our job as fans to support her and stand behind her. If you do nothing but bash what she does, you are no better than her haters. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:24)

Re: Happy Mother's Day Mariah (61,856) (61,859) by King Lambassador from USA It's so great that Mariah and Nick always put aside everything to come together for the kids. They are great parents. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:20)

Re: A vicious cycle (61,855) (61,858) by RibbonB from USA I agree. Mariah is not a tabloid star, yet that's how this team is presenting her and she is playing along. Mariah should be more elusive and exclusive. She should be more prudent with her sharing and it should come from her, not her reps handling her social media for their fame, or withholding out of spite. She's becoming her own version of her song Camouflage. Mariah seems at her best as a mom. Her kids need her best and her, at her best. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:19)

Re: Mariah Carey gives the world's most awkward lap (61,836) (61,857) by King Lambassador from USA I, personally, think it is so great to see Mariah happy again and obviously confident with her body. She finally does something new on stage and you all just bash her? What kind of fans are you? Mariah deserves our support no matter what. We all know Mariah isn't the best dancer - that's just not who she is. But she stepped out of her comfort zone and had a lot of fun doing it, and looked damn sexy doing it if I do say so myself. The woman has got legs for days and a thick booty and she wanted to show it off, and there is nothing wrong with that. (Friday 6 May 2016; 17:10)

Happy Mother's Day Mariah (61,856) by RibbonB from USA It is nice to see Mariah with her family. I am sure their kids appreciate moments out of the lime light as well as celebrating their mom on stage. ROC and Roe look adorable. (Friday 6 May 2016; 16:55)

A vicious cycle (61,855) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Well the negativity you're feeling comes from concerns about people who really do love Mariah. You know what's more dangerous than a hater? An enabler. A hater stands from afar spewing bike, but an enabler could pretend to be your best friend, even a family member, watching you destroy your career/life/relationship, all the while happy to do so as they gain from that. I write these messages of late in an almost desperate attempt that Mariah or somebody close to her will do something - quite frankly I believe that many of us here on this board would do better to save and catapult this legacy back into the aeons of eternal legend. Right now this is looking more and more like a cautionary tale, akin to a story from the brothers Grimm or Whatever Happened To Baby Jane? (Friday 6 May 2016; 16:44)

Mariah's image (61,854) by Malcolm from Asia This just all frustrates us. I agree that in her social media posts, it's like 10% random fans, another 10% lambs that defending her and 80% all the haters or should I say people that are not buying her antics. I can't blame those people because they have basis or reason why they are doing that and I also felt the same way and it is hurtful as a fan. It is not just a random hate that is unnecessary, that is the honest perception of people on Mariah. I don't believe or blame the people that surrounds her on why she acts like that, yes in other aspects like how the social media posts are heading, this and that, but the recent actions of her is making me to cringe a lot and disappointment. After all, she is human and a mature person (I want to believe that) that can say no in doing lap dances or something along with that. If one person should blame for all of this, that is solely Mariah. I believe that this are all her choices and decisions. I don't know, it's just sad that the majority of the public just see Mariah as a "celebrity" with diva attitude and not an "artist" that is serious and hands-on with her music. Her image has really overshadows her artistry. It really broke my heart that from all of her peers, she has the least respect from the general public/media and only sees her as this diva with bizarre demands that lives in another world. When it's safe to say that she is the most talented among of them in terms of musicality and a true artist. (Friday 6 May 2016; 16:18)

Re: A vicious cycle (61,852) (61,853) by MimiLamb from Germany @this_is_qhm I was not referring to your post only, I want to point that out, if I direct a post to just one I will put the name in it. (Friday 6 May 2016; 14:59)

Re: A vicious cycle (61,851) (61,852) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I just happen to be in one of those rare ranting moods. Sorry. I'm not disregarding Mariah's recent successes. In fact, I'm happy for her. It just frustrates me that for every step forward, her image takes her two steps back. If we are ever going to see another considerable commercial and critical success from her music-wise, she'd have to reach (or reclaim) a wider audience - something that won't be possible with all of these mostly polarizing posts from her social media accounts. The mill's always gonna churn out some negative news, and these unnecessary updates from her aren't gonna help. Focus on the kids. Or the backstage crew. Or the music. Reveal less of the gorgeous body. Minimize the diva antics. Be what the public knows she is - a one of a kind singer who doesn't need much to make a statement. (Friday 6 May 2016; 14:20)

A vicious cycle (61,851) by MimiLamb from Germany Can we please stop, just going through the comments really makes me sad. I don't get it, really I don't. If it's not the media then the fans. She had a great tour, the press is positive for the most part, so why do you guys feel the need to pick Mariah apart, yet again? For me this message board is a fun place, but not as of late. I get that you can't only be positive all of the time, but this is going way to far. (Friday 6 May 2016; 13:16)

Re: Social media presence (61,842) (61,850) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Amen. I'm feeling very frank today and I have to agree with Andrew on this one. Okay, kudos to her as she didn't go the Whitney route, but compared to her contemporaries (Mary, Celine, Shania), now she's taken less seriously as a person - that's right - a person, which is way worse than her not being taken seriously as an artist. Sure she's entitled to enjoy the fruits of her labor for the past 26 years and part of that is doing whatever the heck she wants, but I'm afraid that she has done irreversible damage to her image especially over the past 5 years. I miss those times when music got the best of her. Nowadays the celebrity of it all overpowers her image. What used to be effortless, classy sexy has now become borderline desperate attempts to prove to the world that she's still got it (she does, but now it's just getting embarrassing). The usually cute and funny diva antics have progressed to a point where they have taken a life of their own and have merged to create this whole new unrecognizable person. I wonder what 90s Mariah would think about 2010s Mimi. I remember Da Brat saying in an old interview that the more liberated Mariah we saw then was the "real" Mariah suppressed by Tommy. And for a long while I believed that until I realized just how OOC post-Idol Mimi can be and thought, "nah, that can't still be applicable today". These days, it seems like the only redeeming factors to her image are the pics that clearly show just how much she cares about the kids (her improved recent live performances have, as usual, gone unnoticed). She isn't Madonna who can take whatever controversy she's thrown and use it to her advantage; who can release an album that's guaranteed to sell at least 1-2 million units worldwide by the end of its accompanying top-grossing tour. She isn't even J.Lo who, despite being mediocre in pretty much everything she does, is still inexplicably adored by the public. She's Mariah freaking Carey, the exotic beauty whose voice propelled her to dizzying heights, some of which no one even knew existed. She's the legend who, for better and for worse, doesn't act like one. And while she's still known first and foremost as a singer, it's not lip-synching that endangers her career the most. If it did, then 70% of the current female singers won't be around anymore. In an industry run by shock value, intrigue, hype and likeability, relatability is the name of the game. And it can be challenging to relate to someone who feels like she has to show skin 95% of the time, whose social media presence is mostly controlled by idiots and who seems allergic to change. The hardest part for us as fans is always having to defend her, knowing that somehow, that shy, simple and humble Mariah still shows through the cracks of that overblown, superficial, hyper-airbrushed, super-glossy facade that she feels she has to put up since TEOM. (Friday 6 May 2016; 12:16)

Mariah's new single must be hot (61,849) by Ty from USA We see the mess behind JLo's flop single, it needs to be a hit. Mariah still with half her range can sing better than 99.9% of the chart divas. (Friday 6 May 2016; 2:09)

Article: The end of Mariah Daily Journal (61,848) by Luigi from Italy Hi, where can I contact you? I'd really like to have Mariah's magazines scans back, since I lost them. Please help me, I'm looking for them. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 23:16)

Re: Social media presence (61,845) (61,847) by Marissa from USA You just preached, especially when you said that Mariah seems like a living caricature of herself. I totally agree. Stop playing into the character that you think the world views you as and just be yourself. Seeing Mariah act the same way everyone speculates about in the National Enquirer is boring and redundant. It's cheapening herself. Who Mariah really is is 10 times more interesting than these little off-Broadway plays she puts on in her interviews. I guess she feels like being deep will make people remember her age because it seems like the older she gets, the more shallow she wants to present herself to the public. Don't get me started on eternally 12. This is the most aggravating part of the shallow rhetoric to me. It's one thing if you view yourself as a kid at heart. We shouldn't lose that playful and carefree part of ourselves. But if you keep shoving it down people's throat that you're 12 because you have some irrational fear of aging, it's ridiculous. It's not even like she says it every now and then as a joke. She shuts down every single conversation where age or years come up with that quote, which is making her look crazy. She looks great for her age. It's better to look too young to be 46, than too old to be 12. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 22:13)

Andrew (61,846) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Well, yes Andrew, you do put it rather more bluntly whilst I always try and take a more diplomatic tone. Haha. We often think along similar lines, just with a difference in delivery. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 19:59)

Re: Social media presence (61,839) (61,845) by Mara from United States Anthony I completely know where you are coming from. I'm not quite sure what to make of it all. I do know all this has been recorded and planned on being showed on the E show or not but if it is, I hope they are careful on how they portray her. The public never seem to give Mariah a pass on things they give other female celebrities a pass on. Part of that is of and I hate to say it, Mariah's own doing. Like Mimi L said in the ET interview when mentioning the twins turning 5 instead of answering like a proud mom and saying something along the lines of "I can't believe how much they've grown", we get her flicking the hair in front of her face saying don't say it or something along the lines of that. The whole age thing is getting a little old. She is a grown woman who looks amazing for her age and she should be proud of that. Her actions sometimes I just can't justify and wish she would be a little more humble when asked some questions. The diva act is just so overplayed at this point and does not go over well with non-diehard fans. I don't understand. Some interviews came across really well but I really hope we see the fun things but not the real diva things all the time. I sometimes miss the way Mariah used to talk just in a normal voice without always over accentuating words with the drama. It's almost like Mariah has fully become a caricature of Mariah Carey and we don't ever see the real Mariah anymore between the image always on and every camer shot has to be perfect and touching the hair at all times to pulling the shades down or the showing of the boots to whatever. Ok sorry for the tangent as Mariah would say. All said in love. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 19:25)

Alicia Keys (61,844) by Giovanni from USA I'm honestly glad Alicia Keys is coming back with an album. I've been a fan since "The Dairy Of Alicia Keys". Who could ever forget the beautiful "If I ain't got you" song? She isn't the best singer but I enjoy her voice. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 18:59)

Re: Giovanni (61,838) (61,843) by Giovanni from USA I said what I said and I leave it at that. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 18:54)

Re: Social media presence (61,839) (61,842) by Andrew from UK Anthony, to put it bluntly, Mariah is increasingly acting cheap and like she has no class. It is embarrassing for a fan who was used to being able to defend her as a person. The tits-out sex-kitten imagery was once tongue-in-cheek, now the cheeks are the only things on display. I think long gone are the days when fans can blindly defend her, or suck up crap ego-trip, "am I a sexy princess? hee hee" music videos and interviews. There are wildly better looking sexier, thinner, younger celebrities for that. Label that how you like but it is steeped in reality. And in re: other artists, the simple fact that people didn't have to visit a record store to buy Mariah's last album and it still sold next to nothing makes everything far worse: people were so disinterested they wouldn't even click "download" from the comfort of their chaise longue (we all have one right? the guy who helps me walk down three steps sleeps on mine). Mariah could have come out with any of Rihanna's number ones and it would not have charted anywhere near. People have lost respect and she insists on making it worse. Where is the PR team? You only have to look at Mariah's music video output since TMB to realise she promotes her career almost as if she hates it, and the fans are falling by the wayside. Can't fill arenas? Other artists of the same calibre can. "Expect the unexpected?" I think most people know exactly what to expect, and it's putting them right off. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 18:44)

Diva duel (61,841) by Ardis Logic from Earth Who's better than Mariah, Beyoncé, Adele, Rihanna, ect? It's all in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has an opinion, everyone has their own taste in music. If Rihanna get's #1 hits (or anyone else) then she/they deserve it. Music changes as time goes on, and will continue to do so. Look at how music was 50 years ago. Mariah came onto the scene in the early 90's. Reality check, that was almost 30 years ago. I know shocking right? My point is, records are made to be broken, #1's will come and go. Despite all of these facts, no one will ever (all caps) be like Mariah. She is a legend. No matter what happens, she will be looked back on 100 years from now, as one of the greatest vocalist in music history. All these little details are no big deal. Have a beautiful day everyone. Peace and love to you all. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 18:10)

Re: Alicia Keys' "In Common", Mariah's sound overhaul (61,832) (61,840) by darrian liu from taiwan I agree. I think Mariah has nothing left to lose nor proof, so I think she should have more courage to step out of her comfort zone and experiment with various genres. Mariah could do a simple acoustic country song and it would still really be interesting. (Thursday 5 May 2016; 16:42)

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