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The firs time you heard Mariah, just for the nostalgia (54,531) by Alejandro Cole from Colombia
Hi guys. I remember arriving home from school and looking at my uncles new stereo. He had a couple of CD's and showed us how great of a sound that was and how loud. He allowed me to play some with the stereo and I intended to put some house music at the time, but what I got was the "Hero" Spanish version from a single he had. I was absolutely mesmerized by the voice as I wanted to be a singer and loved music for a life (I still am and most of my music and style was influenced by Mariah off course) so I listened like 20 times that song and loved her ever since. I saved every penny I received for lunch and bought Daydream, that was my first Mariah album. Later I convinced my uncle to gave me the "Heroe" single and the rest is history. I've been a lamb for almost 15 years now and treasure that special moment were God "send me from up above" so much joy through Mariah's voice.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 16:00)
Re-releases? (54,530) by darrian liu from taiwan
Honestly, I don't really get why Sony is deciding to re-release Merry Christmas. There's no point. AIWFCIY is already the biggest, one of the most adored Christmas songs of all time. Merry Christmas is the best-selling Christmas album of all time. Re-releasing what the public already knows very well doesn't make sense to me. Why not just prepare a big, new studio album with an out-of-the-box concept? Or maybe, touring across the US with smaller, intimate venues to further re-introduce her image to the GP. Actually, I had been thinking about a promotion concept for Mariah. I think the main problem is that Mariah is seen as a has-been by the public. Why not re-introduce her like a new artist? Forget about her achievements, focus on her strengths as an artist and a vocalist (constantly telling people about her 18 #1s is not going to net new fans). It's gonna be better if she reinvented her sound. A classic Mariah sound with a more modern twist. Promoting her like a new artist with the same vigor. Then release an album that is up to MIAM standards (or more) with a huge, coordinated promotional push. Also, she could also dress herself more casually like the camouflage jacket or AI. I think it would be really good. What do you guys think?
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 14:26)
What I have learned from posting on this board (54,529) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
1. Posters are so passionate about their points of view that they can be verbally at each other's throats at the drop of a hat. I mean seriously, who needs TV with this happening on almost a daily basis? Haha.
2. You can never be too positive or too negative on this board. Finding a middle ground between the two is also quite tricky.
3. Some moments here take you straight back to high school. Heck, this is high school. We have the popular kids, the rebels, the perceived bullies, etc. The only thing different is that underneath all these stereotypes, we are all Mariah geeks.
4. Lists are ever so popular.
5. The webmaster rarely breaks his silence , and when he does, he gets the most likes.
6. Herd mentality is also present, so much so that those who have different opinions are marginalized at best and attacked at worst.
7. Forget haters and bashers. Lambs have always been Mariah's toughest critics. Always.
8. "Goats" and "eternal optimists" are two ends of the spectrum.
9. There will always be a post that comes along that's unsettling enough to remind you that sometimes a break from posting is needed to preserve your sanity.
10. It's still the best Mariah messageboard out there.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 12:59)
The next move (54,528) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I too think that a break right now would do more bad than good. I don't want to pressurize Mariah but if she can, I think she should already start working on her new album and map out exactly how she wants the album to roll out. Mariah, even though she looks 10 years younger, is 45 and age is important in Hollywood. I really believe Mariah has the capability to deliver great material, but the work doesn't end there. Her label needs to back her up and I am strongly against L.A. choosing her next single. L.A. might have been responsible for a lot of artists' success, but I don't like the direction he wants to take Mariah in. Her artistic ability should not be confined. I think the single should be chosen by a group of younger individuals. For Mariah's part, she only needs to keep up the great performances she has been serving up starting from her May leg in Vegas and be confident when she is singing in big event. Also present herself in interviews like she has been doing lately. The rest is on the label to get her big interviews, magazines and big events.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 12:42)
New material / unreleased songs (54,527) by Licia from USA
Don't get me wrong, I would love new material now. I always want new material. I just don't want her to put it out without being ready to promote or put her all into presenting it to the world. I also would love an album of unreleased songs. I bet Mariah has a vault full of songs like Tupac. I personally didn't need another number ones album or a re-release of the Christmas album. A double disc full of unreleased songs sounds like heaven. Lol.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 12:08)
RJJ12 (54,525) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I think why most of us are still in the "is she, isn't she?" phase because just last month when she was asked whether she started working on her new album/or about her plans to get back in the studio, she said she has yet to discuss about the new album with L.A. Reid. L.A himself said something along the same lines when he was asked when he intends to put Mariah back in the studio. Now for the songs you mentioned missing: *singing for Mariah* I wanna know where the songs are, and I want you to show, show me. *breaks into whistle a la X-Factor IWKWLI performance* Plus I mentioned this before, where is the track with DJ Clue? Where is the track with the supposed surprise collaborator?
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 10:13)
M / Ardis (54,524) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Sorry for the confusion, I actually saw this video in bulk with the others in Paris and thought it was from 2015, I did see that it was from 2012 later, but I had already written a lot of posts that day so I thought I'd post it later but forgot.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 10:00)
Billy / fans (54,523) by Musti from UK
You put that very nicely Billy. Let's face it, we all have a thing or two that we don't like about Mariah. At the moment mine are her megadiva personality, the lack of female collaborators throughout her career and that musically she hasn't really been thinking outside the box since TEOM. But I don't come here ranting like it's the end of the world or start name calling. It's important to have a healthy balance on this message board because, as the lambily, we can't turn into Mariah's "yes men". I like to think her camp comes on here to check how we receive current events so it's important to have that reality check for them. But this board isn't meant for painting Mariah in a nasty picture or calling her names. Criticism can be styled in so many different ways. Why go for the nastiest? Especially if you call yourself a lamb and visit this page regularly. I'm not referring to Andrew in particular. There have been many posts bashing Mariah over the years (including mine). None of us should be crucified for expressing our opinions, but there should be a limit to the things we say.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 9:49)
Andrew (54,522) by Luke from United Kingdom
I don't tend to read your posts because I feel it's usually things you've mentioned before which is fine. What I don't understand is it doesn't seem to be a very happy way to spend your time, worrying about someone you don't know and what they aren't doing right. We all want Mariah to do well but that's up to her. I don't think anyone is trying to change you just give you some advice. However, it is intirely yours and others right to post what you want. Just don't be suprised when you get backlash on a Mariah fan page. If you want to continue to be blunt and straightforward when talking about Mariah then try to do it with kindness and understanding when talking with others. We're all equal and nobody here is in a higher position than the anyone.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 8:10)
New material from Mariah is always needed: music, film, theatre, stage, biography (54,521) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Especially now. It makes sense and I see it succeeding. I'm sure she's always working on new music and right now she can't afford to keep any musical gems to herself. She's been around this long because of her prolific tendencies, not inspite of it. She shouldn't wait at all to do anything she wants, not when someone like Janet Jackson has been gracious enough to warn of her return. Musing: Imagine if Mariah and Janet did a world tour together? She needs to teach The Vendetta a lesson for sabotaging her projects at every turn.
1. Vision Of Love, arguably the only gospel song to ever be a Billboard Hot 100 #1.
2. MTV unplugged, garnered I'll Be There, the only live BB HOT 100 #1.
3. Wrote AIWFCIY, the last original Christmas classic and most popular modern Yuletide song worldwide ever since. #1 In Japan.
4. Fantasy remix featuring ODB. Need I say more?
5. My point, as it has always been and will be, is that Mariah isn't the kind of artist you can limit in any way. Most true artists aren't but she's broken every ceiling put upon her, from her mixed heritage, dysfunctional home life to abusive relationship with Tommy and the aftermath that echos his vendetta against her to this very day. Now, if you don't want Mariah to succeed as an artist, of course you'd rather she disappear as that is the easiest way to get your wish. If haters label her a has been now, imagine if she took a hiatus? There's always room for great artistry, but we can do without stupid covert Sabotage. Nice try though.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 6:58)
Andrew / Eric / Mimi L., could you please? (54,520) by Edward from USA
Andrew, his name is Eric. Obviously he doesn't like your posts, but he's not abusing his power as a dictator to vanquish you just because he doesn't agree with your approach. Had he wanted to ban you from the board, he would've done it a long time ago. Just remember that Eric is also a fan, and even though he rarely posts, he, just like the rest of us, has an opinion, and if there's a person who deserves to vent from time to time after 16 years, that's Eric. So, don't be dramatic and stop asking Eric to block you, he obviously doesn't manage this website like a despot. Many posters here might not like you, but there are many of us who do. So next time you'll ask Eric to block you, I'll have Mimi L. sent you a complimentary package with 5 bottles of Mariah's "Butterfly Pink drink", 3 of "the dresses" she used in the Elusive Chanteuse tour, 3 bottles of her "nail polish" and your very own autograph picture of "Nick Cannon". I hope Eric doesn't block me for writing this message. See you guys in a couple of months.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 6:38)
I never liked the idea of a second number ones album and meaningful rambling (54,519) by Amber C from USA
I never liked the emphasis on the "18 number ones". This actually makes Mariah underrated. because they have captilized on 18, the other singles now seem irrelevant or less important. However when I take an artist like Beyonce, she doesn't have number ones (to this extent), however if she was to be marketed at the diva with 30 smash hits (just as an example), look what happens. The number 18 to the number 30 makes Beyonce's achievements seem like more (or equal). The "18 number one hits" rapport has cheapened Mariah's brand. It holds no significance anymore to say "18 number one hits". in actuality it is remarkable, but it has become so overlooked because it has been oversused. And by capitalzing on 18 number ones it is as if Sony is drawing the line and saying no more. in 100 years Mariah will be known the 18 #1s. But they will never be exposed to Mariah the music maker and legend, she will be known for her voice, but not for her talent, because all her other songs will be overlooked. Sony should have released an album of Mariah's underrated songs or solely new songs. No need to recycle music everybody knows. How does that truly benefit your artist LA?
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 6:34)
Lee on no new material (54,518) by Amber C from USA
Mariah's voice should not be in the studio as of now, however Mariah always builds momentum when she stays busy, album-making. I'm eager to see what these new projects amount to. But I don't think the public wants to see any new Mariah music for a while, especially when it has been so poorly executed since Memoirs tbh (not the music but the releases and such). I also believe Mariah is being overworked by Big Jim, and the new label has turned Mariah into a legacy artist, which she isn't. Mariah is not like any of those "legacy" artists. she has been in a league of her own, but LA and Sony are trying to fit her into a box which she doesn't belong in. I wont mind Mariah the actress. Mariah lets make this happen, the music industry is bleak dahling. .
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 6:09)
Please delete my account, if possible, thanks (54,517) by D.D. from USA
Hi webmaster, thanks for this site and all you do. I would like to request that my account be deleted please. I do not plan on posting again and if at all possible delete those messages I posted as well. Thanks in advance. Peace out. PS. I will come here to read articles and messageboard. I love M.C.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 6:05)
A little gem (54,516) by Ardis Logic from Earth
I found this video today of classic Mariah moments. They title it "10 reasons Mariah Carey is amazing". Enjoy.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 5:44)
New music / MC in the studio (54,515) by Ardis Logic from Earth
I am glad to hear that MC is working on new music. She is a non stop super woman.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 5:41)
Re: Mimi L / crazy fan video (54,514) by Ardis Logic from Earth
That fan video was crazy. That poor girl could not compose herself. I noticed when you look down further, it says the video is from 2012, when Nick and Mariah were in Paris to renew their wedding vows. Those days are long gone now.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 5:36)
Here's my concern (54,513) by nikki from usa
I wanted MC to go the Indie route. I think LA Reid would try to suck out the rest of her shine than put her star front and center. My fear was more or less confirmed when he pigeon holed her into the women in their 40's club. I think these new re-releases will make their predecessors obsolete and under this new abysmal contract Mariah will be cheated out of her money for them. That may be why she only made 1 new song for this #1's. I also believe these are LA's ideas that simply make business sense based off what MC is currently doing. I don't think her heart is really in it. She's just going through the motions. I don't see these things selling much which will just add more "flop" albums to her rep. What really sucks is Mariah's never been a regular superstar. She can create songs like ordering a pizza in just about any genre. LA told her he needed a big "Mariah" ballad and she came back with WBT. He decided the re-release needed a soft ballad so MC came back with DFAU. He could tell MC what kind of song would be likely to chart and she could create it. She should be making new music soon, she's too young to go the route he's trying to get her into now.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 4:30)
Live vocals (54,512) by 123 from USA
It seems when she stays working and gets scrutinized by the public, she gets better vocally. After the isolated vocals went viral last year Mariah brought it at the Beacon theater performances and got better with each show. Those were the best live vocals that she has had since 05. There were no glorious G5s, but she belted notes I didn't think she could anymore. Fast forward to March with three months without any gigs and we saw her in bad shape vocally (except for a few shining moments), appeared intoxicated, and very sad. Vegas could have been a trainwreck but she knew all eyes were on her and she kept getting better vocally with each gig. I believe she really only works on her vocals or taking care of her voice when she is consistently working. Other than that, she would have no reason to when her personal life is no longer engulfed by her career like the early days.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 4:09)
Andrew (54,511) by darrian liu from taiwan
I appreciate your point. The polishing of her vocal technique should be done behind the scene, but with concerts, it's not so much about the vocals, it's about the confidence. If she takes a long break from singing on stage, when she goes back to it, most likely the nerves will get to her and she'll go back to old habits. Rather, if you train while singing on stage, you'll be adjusted to the stage, so you'll be able to inject healthy, new habits you learned. This is just a theory, but it was kinda based on my experience. Please correct me if you feel I'm wrong.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 4:08)
The atmosphere on the board (54,510) by Alex from England
Dahlings, what has this board become? A good portion of the posts are about calling someone out. One of the reasons I only post here once in a blue moon anymore. Listen, I, as a lamb, have no issue with whatever opinion is expressed. I believe in freedom of speech and I believe that we all have different tastes. One taste that we have in common though is Mariah. But then again, Mariah is a multi-faceted artist and some will prefer 90's Mariah, others post-Sony Mariah. In conclusion, "it's not that deep", as Mariah herself would say. Now the only thing I expect from people is to remain polite. There are enough words to choose from without falling into the trap of cursing or insulting. Last but not least, Mariah is Mariah, no matter how much we'd like for her to "change", "evolve", "do something else", whatever, she will be Mariah and at the end of the day we may only agree or disagree with her, like or dislike her music, enjoy or hate her performances, etc. In my opinion, Mariah has done a great job of maintaining a high-profile status 25 years into her career. Yes, she lipsynchs, no she doesn't release resung remixes as much as she used to, yes her weight fluctuates a lot, etc etc. But Mariah is still a person, someone that has encouraged or inspired us with her music or attitude. Can we all try and remember that for a minute? Once again, all opinions should be welcome from all and by all as long as we remain courteous with each other.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 3:58)
Please no more breaks (54,509) by Marissa from USA
I think these calls for Mariah to take a break and reemerge sound good in theory, but we have to keep in mind that Mariah's 45 years old. Age-wise, she can't afford to keep disappearing and expect people to have the same enthusiasm for her like when she was in her twenties. In the real world, she's relatively young, but in the industry people see that as an age to put you out to pasture. As we could see at the BBMAs when only 40% of the audience even stood up for her out of respect (even after they showed the video of all her accomplishments), the reception to her has gotten a lot more lukewarm and I don't think her releasing her next album at age 47+ is going to help matters. I also think that the more time passes since her last #1 the less people are going to give a damn about her record. Today's generation has a "what have you done for me lately" attitude and is quick to write someone's accomplishments off as irrelevant, so another #1 should be snagged very soon or she should stop making that her main talking point. I believe that Mariah needs to put out stellar music consistently until she retires. Realistically, there's not much more room for error or breaks.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 3:49)
Songs that didn't make MIAM? (54,508) by 123 from USA
Whatever happened to Kick Rocks? Will she use it on a new album or is that impossible now that she is with a new label? What about the R. Kelly collab? We saw a pic of them in the studio in 2012 yet no song on the final tracklist. Didn't Maxwell insinuate that they were might be working together in early 2014, did that ever happen? That would be a awesome collabo btw. What about the ballads she removed from the album back when it was still called TAOLG prior to her getting into an accident and recording three new upbeat songs (Dedicated, Money, etc)? I wonder if she has the ability to put any noteworthy material that she recorded in the last era on a new Sony album. I need answers lol.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 3:48)
New album / can it be a success? (54,507) by 123 from USA
Now is the perfect time to be working on new material. I'm confused as to why everyone is wondering if she is working on a new album when she confirmed it when she sang Hero at the event where Jussie introduced her. 2007 is too late. It would only fail if one of three things doesn't happen, 1. The material is less than what she is capable of (Infinity, Triumphant), it must be MIAM level of quality. 2. Her performances must be good, dare I say, the Beacon Theater good. Bad live vocals or pre-recorded mishaps ala Touch My Body via Good Morning America or bad transitions from live to pre-recorded a la Jamaica performances. 3. Promotion, promotion, promotion. If Sony does anything close to all the heavy promoting they did for Infinity, then we have no worries of a repeat of the Def Jam's silence or the late 90s Sony days. She also has to do intelligent, cohesive interviews like the one she did in that recent magazine article where she talked about everything professional (last album failure, intellectual property being stolen, upcoming projects).
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 3:35)
Lee (54,506) by Licia from USA
I agree. I don't mind waiting for new music as long as it's good music (I'm excited for new Janet by the way, she has been missed ). The teasers are only making the fans assume that we will get new music soon and if she doesn't give it to us soon then it will be another MIAM fiasco all over again. I don't want another album where she felt she had to put it out to make it up to us for all the push backs. I got sixteen Mariah cds that will hold me over until she's fully ready to release new material. I too have been wondering how she is going to record a new album, finish out the July Vegas shows and do Christmas shows and do more shows in February. That's alot. I don't think 20 year old Mariah would have been able to handle this.
(Thursday 11 June 2015; 3:26)

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