Lee / intro / HRC vocals / Vegas (50,976)
by 123 from USA
Thank you Lee for posting the intro and the performance. If you watch the intro, it explains her present vocal state. For whomever said that Mariah may not be aware of how she sounds, if you watch the intro, you will hear her say "I'm going to get through it tonight because I'm a little horse because I'm working on a new album." So she hasn't gotten any sleep and is back to having all nighters with JD and crew in the studio. This performance is irrelevant to what she is going to sound like in Vegas. Even if she had an amazing performance, if she doesn't get enough rest at least a week prior to the first performance, she isn't going to sound great anyway. It's all up to whether she gets enough rest right before the show and rehearses. I liked that the speech was off the cuff, she went into a personal story and then pulled in human rights. It was a nice speech. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 3:15)
Press (50,975)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
Press is very judgemental. Somehow "crazy Mariah" prevails in press. Especially after her second marriage. Outsiders believe that was something more suitable for Britney. Since that time public reaction was mostly indiferrent if not worse. If she wins over press she would get everything back. It's a question of time and effort. Regarding glove and weight gain, she had a serious injury. If a nerve was damaged the effect will be painful and longlasting. For years. And during recovery she for sure could't do weight, or any other exercises actually. Just try to live your normal life for a few hours without using any hand. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 3:12)
Ty a knot in it (50,974)
by Andrew from UK
Ty, you're right it gets so boring in here. Please do jump in every other month and tell people what Mariah's hair tastes like and call them a goat for not eating it as fast as you. Ah but you've met her? An oracle, you is. [censored], if people want to criticise Mariah, it's their right. They're doing it out of love. Let's just weedle out the "lilly-ass white" ones. "Dear forefathers. Today, Ty is choosing who is a fan and what passes for fandom and I'm scared we won't make the cut. Do help us." What a tit. Ah, but you met her, you never mentioned it. Never. First one to touch Ty gives a shit. [censored] Peace out. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 2:51)
Agree with lamb o chop (50,973)
by Ty from USA
It gets so boring with these emotionally [censored] always hating on Mariah's voice. Iit's weird when fans and stans attack the one they have sworn to protect. Yes Mimi's voice has changed and yes she is older and not as hungry. That still doesn't give some of you the right to slander, hurt, call out another human being. Mariah needs to be appreciated now, loved now, not bullied by you so called fans. I've met her multiple times and she is really a beautiful, fragile soul. Don't contine to bash her. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 1:15)
Lee Ts / demos (50,972)
by Darryle from USA
That demo you posted just might be real. There was a part 2 added later for the song Someday. Also Mariah posted on twitter: Now playing Hypnotized (my teenage demo version). I don't what demo Hypnotized is for but I think it might be for Someday. If any of the aforementioned demos are on the infamous demo tape then it's likely that Mariah or someone else still has the demo tape which means we might get to hear it someday (pun intended). (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 0:57)
Letting go ain't easy (50,970)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
We all understand that it is impossble "to pose it and make it stay". Thanks to her unfair contract with Sony we have 9 albums from the 90s. Not like many other artists, like Janet or Sade, who had 3 albums in a decade. There is enough material for nostalgia. Anyway, for me MIAM is back to 90's Mariah. Vegas anxiety. Everything is what it is. Not as bad, not as good. I'll wait and see. It is less consuming than guess. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 0:31)
Ben / Andrew (50,969)
by Jon from Netherlands
There are other singers? You really believe that? Coming from the States I really don't see any. Pop music can be rather generic. Mariah crosses boundaries and really created something kind of unique specially because you know she writes her own lyrics. It's very powerful and others are a rather empty glass compared to Mariah. Andrew, I loved the last post. You can be repetitive and it eventually gets annoying but as long as you are honest I'll keep appreciating you. I see you have some dependencies on Mariah yourself. Just not blind ones. Not wanting to be personal but now I imagine you had your struggles growing up and Mariah really helped you. It did help us all. Gosh, she really needs to bring back that splendor. We all f****** need it. For good times and bad times. To get through the rain or just to shake it off. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 0:31)
Almost home (50,968)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
I'm in China since December. YouTube and some Google services are banned. So I cannot watch all those videos and I cannot change my ip for another country for some reason. I can't wait to be able to see and to hear her recent performances. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 0:10)
Andrew (50,967)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
I agree for 100% about #1s. I'd prefer her music to be great and I'd like Mariah to be honest to herself and do what she really likes not trying to fit in. And I still believe this is not the end of the road. MOIA era was much worse. I hope she will do less movies and more music. A good song could be written in a few hours. It can be polished for months. Or it could be more time consuming. But if it's good it will catch up with a listener and will live a long life. A movie is different. In a song the singer is revealing oneself somehow, but in a movie an actor is pretending to be somebody else. I know it sounds stupid, but I prefer music over movies. Music is more honest. In 3-4 minutes there is no less emotions and life than in a 90 min movie. I hope MC will do less movies and more music. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 0:01)
Correction (50,966)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I meant "great" and not "creative" in my last post. As in Mariah looked great in that black dress. (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:59)
HRC performance (50,965)
by G.G. from USA
I think the performance was ok. It's obvious she can't smoothly transition from note to note the way that she used to. For whatever reason she has lost the ability to effortlessly "float" from note to note and instead chops words into pieces to get where she needs to go vocally. I don't love it, but it's what she's working with now. I've said this before, I don't mind lip synching as long as it's not completely obvious. With her voice as it is now, I doubt she'll ever perform on another talk show like Ellen or David Letterman. There are too many things that could go wrong. (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:32)
Opninions / Andrew (50,964)
by G.G. from USA
Why does everyone want to sensor what other people think and feel? I don't get that. I may not like everything someone says, but that doesn't mean they don't have a right to have their opinion. Everyone targets Andrew for what he says, yet he usually gets a lot of thumbs up for his comments on this message board. There are several members on this board that I don't like. I just skip over their comments and I, usually, never mention them in my posts. (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:29)
Mariah should use social media to connect with fans (50,962)
by ADAM from USA
I loved the recent pics of MC in West Hollywood. She is so more striking as a beauty when she's dressed modestly vs cheap looking fashions circa 90s. I also liked her speech before the HRC performance. It was really cute and sincere. I wish she would connect more with her fans directly during the making of her next album. It's been how many years since she answered fans questions online via video or Twitter? Remember when she did the Facebook event to promote TAOLG? I think since her career is down in the dumps that this would be the most pivotal time to re-connect with fans and create the buzz that's she's sincere again. It seems like the perfect solution for her to regain our trust while still protecting her voice. Using the web to communicate, pleases all parties involved. Maybe someone in her camp will remind her that she has loyal fans again that need her connection. Anyone agree or disagree? (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:12)
A re-think/re-listen (50,961)
by Andrew from UK
I listened to the speech video and I remembered what Mariah was to me when I was a kid. It wasn't a United Nations speech but she ain't ever gonna make them. GaGa and the rest play upon the gay vote like there's no tomorrow. Truth be told Mariah, *definitely* more so than Madonna, was the main vocalist who let her music speak for, and to, the gays without pretension or politicking their vote. So I went back and listened to the fan video of the whole thing and played it through surround. I stand by my criticisms, at least most of them. But I felt the power and the memory of the meaning and I concede why people loved it. I'm annoyed by the play back moments. But I watered up at Mariah for the first time in many years. I dunno, maybe out of the dreaded "nostalgia". I'm sorry to all those who thumbed up my last comment, I stick by it from a wanting-my-artist-to-be-great point of view, but I believe in saying what you think. And being true to your heart as well as mind sometimes. And, truth be told, I was moved to tears five times over. I love Mariah Carey. I massively do not love Mimi, I guess. But I'll press delete. Listen and come back to us. I don't need number ones. I want you to sing to my soul again and I want to believe it. No more "troo-ooths" admittedly. Just what you can honestly do singing to someone who wants to hear it. And stop calling it schmaltzy. Fucks me off. Half your shit is schmaltzy. It's great. Apologise for Triumphant. (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:04)
Tired of the same old (50,960)
by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia
Some of you all are some miserable [censored] former lambs. You come on here and complain about every recent performance Mariah has, as if it's the first time you all heard her not sound perfect live. I'm just saying, don't you all ever get tired of rehashing the same old tired complaints over and over again? Yes we know her voice ain't the same, she lips her climaxes (sometimes), and all her other little tricks. It's okay to say you didn't enjoy it or you didn't think it was that good, but the redundant outrage is just getting beyond tired and very annoying. I agree with the lamb that mentioned unconditional love. At this point you're either gonna unconditionally love Mariah for what she's already done for your life through her music and voice or you're gonna harp on the negative and be miserable. If the latter is the case please put yourself out of your misery and just stop following and posting about her, or accept things for what they are, until she proves you wrong. (Monday 16 March 2015; 22:28)
HRC performance (50,959)
by Marissa from USA
The Hero performance was actually pretty good. There was nothing wrong with the actual notes, just not that amazing when she chops up some of the words. Overall I liked it. I thought her speech was cute. I know I'm classified as "negative" on this board, but I pick my battles and this isn't one that I think is worth the fight. I've heard worse. (Monday 16 March 2015; 22:15)
The woman with Mariah (50,958)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I wonder who she is. She has been pictured with her twice now. I have never seen her around MC before. Anyways, can we take a moment and acknowledge how creative MC looks in that little black dress (the one she wore to Dan Tana's). Her chest is completely covered, she's not in a gown, she looks so cute. (Monday 16 March 2015; 22:11)
HRC performance (50,957)
by Fulvio from Belgium
Lee thank you for the link. I liked it when she said: "One more. We are not prepared darling. Hahahah. She's so funny." Wow, so she is back in the studio making a new album. I can't wait. Personally I don't care if she lips or sings live. The woman can sing and has nothing to prove anymore. I have always loved Mariah more for her songwriting than for her singing. I think she should write more for other people, because she is so inspirational and still relevant. Also, she once said that she liked being in the studio. Anyway, I can't wait for the new songs and I am glad she's teaming back with LA Reid. He's a true genius. (Monday 16 March 2015; 22:08)
Mimi.L (50,956)
by Luke from United Kingdom
Ah that makes sense. I never realised that. Well I hope it gets better. Thanks for replying. (Monday 16 March 2015; 22:07)
Mail Online (50,955)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Wow, Mail Online is suddenly being nice to Mariah. They usually always post negative things about her, even when there is nothing negative to post. (Monday 16 March 2015; 21:38)
MC/Whitney VH1 countdown (50,954)
by Billy from Greece
I think someone was looking for this a while back. I think this is the whole interview, so there you have it. (Monday 16 March 2015; 21:32)
Speech / thanks Shelly (50,953)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
I thought the speech was heartfelt. And the second video of the HRC performance is professionally filmed. Much better quality then the YT ones prior. I still enjoy this performance. No, perhaps it wasn't a textbook vocal every moment, but I watch her to enjoy the music, the performance, not to make a list of her mistakes. Sometimes, I think the debate over live vs lipping and dubbing has been going on so long that people can't tell when something is live. (Monday 16 March 2015; 21:06)
Negativity (50,952)
by NHYTG from nyc
Carol, you are so right. If you like an artist, be a fan, if you don't like the artist anymore, for whatever reason, stop being a fan and move on with your life. There must be a singer that will fulfill your needs better than Mariah does, there are plenty of them to choose from. Mariah is Mariah, has always been Mariah and will always be Mariah, what you get is what you see. Some so called fans act like spoilt children these days. (Monday 16 March 2015; 20:55)
I'm tired of (50,951)
by carlos from peru
Reading some of your comments about Mariah's performance at HRC gala and give me a break. When I watched it I loved it and I stil do. It's patetic to say she sang good this verse, that verse sounds raspy, she doesn't sound like she did in the 90's. Enjoy the whole performance and stop judging every single word that she sings. (Monday 16 March 2015; 20:47)
Mariah's sound (50,950)
by JAXGH from United States
I was listening to I'll Be There and realized how much Trey Lorenz sounds the same pretty much. And how Mariah sounds distinctively different in every era. I think it's amazing how she sounds so different in every album. Literally the only artist who's voice really evolved. Because some one could listen to an unreleased song by MC not knowing when it was recorded but a true lamb will know which era it was done just by listening to Mariah's voice. Do you guys get what I mean? 1990-92, she was a power vocalist, 93-94 got more soulful, 95-96 voice evolved and she mastered the art of style, 97 she looked and sounded the best, this was her prettiest year and her own style really came out, voice completely matured, the real Mariah. 98-2001, still was amazing years vocally in the studio, 2002-04, the whisper years lmao, 2005-07, she grew even more vocally, 2008-9, I know she didnt sound like Butterfly but still were good years artistically, 2010-2014, it kind of went down hill from there. But nonetheless Mariah is amazing. Praying for a miracle for 95-97 Mariah to come back. Please Lord. (Monday 16 March 2015; 20:32)