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Clors nonsense? (50,518) by Reuben Walton from United States What is this "blue and black"/"white and gold" nonsense? Did she wear some ensemble recently with these colors? I'm so confused. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 4:53)

Uh uh (50,517) by Abraham from USA Was that shade Lee? If so, you tried it. Don't you dare come for "The boss". Diana was a gifted singer, vocalist and belter. She did fine with what she had. The only thing Diana *dreamed* of was success. And that she achieved. Funny you bring her in the mix. Another legendary diva who slays Celine lol. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 2:38)

Icon (50,516) by Otti from Belgium I love how Mariah use personal things from her life in her video clips. Like she did in "We belong together" with her own wedding dress. Or in "#Beautiful" the car of her dad. Or "Through the rain" the story of her parents and the sunflowers, because her father loves sunflowers. Or "I still believe" her admiration for Marilyn Monroe. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 2:28)

Vegas shows (50,515) by Jared from USA I am hoping that the quality of the production for MC Vegas shows will be up to par with Celine's. I watched Celine at Caesar's in 2006, and the show was so beautiful that I was moved to tears. Before I became a Mariah fan (circa 1997), I used to listed to Celine's albums on cassette. I also had Alanis' Jagged Little Pill on cassette, and listened to it constantly. Once I became acquainted with Mariah's music, I was hooked. I still have a soft spot for Celine, but I prefer Mariah by leaps and bounds. Having seen Mariah's Christmas shows at the Beacon, I am confident that she can pull off beautiful performances, especially if she works with a team as creative and accomplished as Celine's in Vegas. I also hope that she makes more of an effort to control her public image. I think the general public are tired of the "dahlings", "splashes", "moments" and "festivities". As fans or "lambs" we love and appreciate her quirky humor, but in recent years, it has really gone overboard. Many of her recent interviews are so awkward and cringe-inducing. I recently stumbled across her Vibe magazine interview circa 1998 (she's on the cover), and she sounds to down to earth and intelligent - not a rambling mess. I hope that Mariah resurfaces soon. Also, when she's done with this "#1's" show, I hope she really takes big musical risks. Take a page from GaGa's playbook and surprise us all. And finally, I wish she would stop using the same #1's-heavy setlist on her next tour. Peace. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 2:08)

The dress? Me. I am team blue and black (50,514) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Mariah is obviously blind as a bat. See, I can call her on her bullshit. I just choose my battles and this is not one I am backing down from. Mariah, I you but you need to check your eye sight. Same goes for all you lambs who are team white and gold. This debate is the perfect metaphor for this board tbh. We will never see eye to eye no matter how hard some of us try. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 1:44)

Piece of the pie (50,513) by Andrew from UK The other ones are even funnier. This is the best. Present. Ever. I can't stop crying. "Oh baby, billing me, it's only a matter of pie. Piiiiiieeeeeee." The world is so brilliant sometimes. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 1:32)

Priceless (50,512) by Jon from Netherlands I'm glad you enjoyed it. "Cos if you run your mother break a bottle sicker run day boo" is poetic work. In the immortal words of Gob from Arrested Development: "It's good to laugh again." (Saturday 28 February 2015; 1:17)

Celine has more shoes (50,511) by Lee TS from USA Yes, I agree Mariah is the best and more gifted in every way. And I think Mariah's covers of Endless Love and Do You Know Where You're Going To slays the original version, she brought out vocals that the original singer can only dream of. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 1:10)

Priceless (50,510) by Andrew from UK Jon, I can't stop crying with laughter. My cheeks are aching. That is hilarious. "Rape me in my thighs. I know you like my cock." But the absolute mf'ing best: "Cos if you run your mother break a bottle sicker run day boo." I cannot stop laughing. I only regret I'll never be able to watch it again for the very first time. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 0:44)

Gospel cover (50,509) by 123 from USA Since Mariah is covering gospel songs, I would love for her to cover Angie & Debbie Winans' Light Of Love. They say Whitney is singing backgrounds on this song. Take a listen. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 0:40)

Gold mine (50,508) by Jon from Netherlands While rediscovering "Tuts my Barreh" (I guess it's from the 2008 album "Pii inside a c square") I found other lost classics like "Cousin always beat my baby" (aka "You'll always beat a pear on me"), "We'll be long together" (aka "Is it so hard to Billy? Come back, pay me please"), "When you peel it" and many others. There is also one for "Hero". That is sacred ground to me though so I won't go there haha. (Saturday 28 February 2015; 0:12)

Shelly / Lee (50,507) by Abraham from USA Thank you Shelly. I appreciate your kind words. I love your posts more. Lee, Celine's album may have sold well but what exactly did it do for her? Did she score a hit a song? Or did her album get nominated? No, Mariah is the one who is capable of that. "Beautiful" made it to number 15 and would have more and likely made it to number one had the whole shoulder injury never happened. And the album would had been released originally as it was recorded and would have sold more. I wasn't trying to put Celine down, I was just stating facts. Mariah is the better artist and talent and still the best voice in the music industry. When Mariah sings Jazz or in her low register she still sounds amazing. The Beacon showed she still has it. Excuse me for putting Mariah on a pedestal over Celine. A woman who has written/produced all her music, has had *platinum* albums, has the most number ones. "One sweet day" slays every single song in Celine's category. (Friday 27 February 2015; 23:57)

Tuts my Barreh (50,506) by Jon from Netherlands Andrew it's my pleasure to introduce you to "Tuts my Barreh" (aka "If there is a camel up a hill" aka so many other names but I don't want to ruin it for you). (Friday 27 February 2015; 23:29)

Team white and gold (50,505) by Lee TS from USA Lol I'm actually happy Mariah tweeted about the dress because it's such a fun topic going on right now. Like her I was initially team white and gold but then I finally saw the blue and black. I love she sees it the way I saw it haha. (Friday 27 February 2015; 23:13)

Genius (50,504) by Andrew from UK 'If there's a camel up a hill' - is that to Touch My Body? That is genius. (Friday 27 February 2015; 23:08)

Il faut que tu saches (50,503) by Andrew from UK Someone mentioned Celine lipping in her career. I think the comparison between Mariah and Celine is interesting and important at this point. Celine Dion is one of the best popular vocalists in the world. She lips high notes now and then in order that she preserves her voice not because she can't hit them (save some songs admittedly). She regularly proves that she can. Mariah has had the luxury of not having sung high belt notes live for well over a decade. (You must wonder where the vocal straining has actually come from? It's all been pre-record or easy-low.) Celine, whilst cringeworthy to some, is commanding of a stage: confident, energetic at high tempo, and captivating with a mic stand and a ballad: it's an event. She also mixes it up, sings songs not in her back-catalogue and is rarely anything but dull in her stagecraft. I think to suggest that Mariah's Vegas show will be anything different from her usual standard shows is naive, no matter who is involved: when does Mariah get told what to do anymore? To think she will sing Fantasy live every night for the first time since, well, Daydream Tour is naive at best IMO. There's been no time to fix *anything* that's wrong. I still think Vegas is a monumental mistake. But I would love to be proved wrong. (Friday 27 February 2015; 23:05)

Ken Lee (50,502) by Jon from Netherlands Randy posted the international hit single "Ken Lee" by the world renowned Valentina. Can I give a shout out to the "If there is a camel up a hill" hit song? Such a classic. Only Mariah to leave a trailer blaze of (very creative) imitators. Suddenly I had the urge to check the original "Ken Lee" by Mariah and stumbled upon a compilation of performances worth checking. PS: Adam and Mimi L. I also enjoy your posts; and I also enjoy "Did I Do That?" but not as a single. (Friday 27 February 2015; 19:10)

Fans (50,501) by Dove from USA I appreciate the uber positive fans because I think about these boards as an intervention. Imagine everyone is giving you the tough truth, that you do need to hear, but it hurts. That's why you also need the people who are going to be unconditionally on your side to soften the blow and to hold your hand through it. If it's all tough love, a person is going to feel attacked and go into hiding. If there is a balance, the person is more likely to think about it more when they're alone and away from the uncomfortableness of being confronted. I get frustrated sometimes, I feel what you guys are feeling. Then I read Abraham's posts, completely having M's back, and it's like a light. We need friends who will tell us the truth but also the ones who accept us where we are right now no matter what. I would love to have such a loyal friend have my back during a transitional period. (Friday 27 February 2015; 18:22)

Greatness must be maintained (50,500) by Marissa from USA I loved your post Ardis. You hit the nail on the head when you said that it takes work and care to stay at the top. That's the thing that people seem to be missing. I don't understand why people think that excellence will just keep flowing with from Mariah with absolutely no maintenance or effort. Excellence can come effortlessly for a long time, but there comes a point where you have to start putting in work and that time is now. (Friday 27 February 2015; 18:04)

Re: (50,494) by TheVoice (50,499) by Dove from USA "Caesar's Palace hires a team of experts to do everything from staging, choreography, and lighting." I really hope you're right. That makes me feel a lot better. I'm almost scared to ask but does anyone know if she is in Vegas working on this production right now? She can't just show up at the last minute and wing it/sing. I've been watching more of Celine's videos and even though she's not a dancer, there was definitely some choreography for her too. In each song she does the same thing (arm movements, stances, small dance routines, etc.) and it makes the performance look tight and polished IMO. On a side note: I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed reading everybody's posts the last few days. We really are a passionate and dedicated fandom. (Friday 27 February 2015; 17:52)

Vegas doc video (50,498) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago Hey guys. I just wanted to say based on everything I am reading that I posted that video primarily because of the amount of work that goes into a "Vegas" show. Mariah has always been, and has always said her home is in the studio. It is just a huge daunting task, and maybe we have to look at it as this being her challenging herself. People talk about her mixing it up, and maybe this is it. In the lowest point in her life, taking on such a project might be the outlet she needs. It happens with all human beings. When faced with challenges there are two outcomes, and we all know what she is and can be capable of. Forget her voice and singing style and even musical choices for now, what seems to be the most critical for this to work is a dedicated, knowledgeable and professional team backing her and supporting her, giving her the best advice. (Friday 27 February 2015; 17:29)

Fans (50,497) by Marissa from USA A true hater is someone who wants to keep a person down, therefore they give criticism without suggesting any solutions. Rarely has that happened on this board. The suggestions that people are making like Mariah getting a vocal coach, surrounding herself with professional people, working with relevant artists and changing songs so she can sing them well with her current voice will do nothing but boost her career. How is that negative in the big picture? What disturbs and confuses me is how fans of one of the most successful, unparalleled singers who has ever lived can feel so comfortable about the way things have taken a turn for the worst in her career. Regardless of how positive you are, everyone knows that Mariah/her career is nothing like it used to be. Period. If you don't make a big deal of the changes, fine, but I don't understand how anyone in their right mind can be outraged or shocked by other fans having problems with the way things have changed. Not everyone can easily cope with, accept and even celebrate (like some people seem to do) their favorite singer going from excellence to mediocrity. (Friday 27 February 2015; 17:07)

TEOM (50,495) by B from USA The first album I bought was Daydream maybe that's why I connected with TEOM. Maybe this explains why MIAMTEC worked for me because it shares many similarities with both albums. (Friday 27 February 2015; 16:59)

Celine Dion and Vegas (50,494) by B from USA Celine Dion lips don't think she doesn't. If she or Mariah didn't they wouldn't have their voices twenty some years later. The difference is Mariah has been lipping poorly for some time and unlike Celine she is still relevant. If you think Celine and her team are solely responsible for her show you're mistaken. Caesar's Palace hires a team of experts to do everything from staging, choreography, and lighting. Mariah is taking over for Celine so I'm assuming the same people that staged her residency are helping with Mariah's which means all Mariah needs to is work on is her voice. If she sings well and does so coherently with enthusiasm she'll do just fine. (Friday 27 February 2015; 16:47)

Jon (50,493) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End YME was a poor choice for lead single as it wasn't distinct enough on its own or really representative of the major theme on MIAMTEC. It's deceptively melancholy and yet they were trying to sell it as a Valentine's anthem. It smells like self sabotage. The video worked against it too because even now I don't ever reference it, almost like it never happened. It was a complete waste not to have Mariah interact with Trey Songz, especially if they had chemistry. Reminds me of her early videos where she wasn't allowed to have hot guys in her videos lest Tommy pitch a fit. DIDT of course wouldn't have worked as first single for Rainbow because it was too dark as a single period. Let alone as a figurehead. Obsessed is a perfect example of a snarky yet upbeat diss song that works and unsurprisingly it did well because the video was original in concept and funny. Who would have thought Mariah would be caught dead in a beard? (Friday 27 February 2015; 16:44)

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