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Webmaster (51,033) by Andrew from UK Having read your message, also, I do have to ask, does the webmaster (Eric?) proof all the messages and post them? I'm far, far from kissing anyone's ass and you once told me "[I'll] never be one of [you]". I'm a big boy with big shoulders and even bigger opinions of right and wrong. But if that is the case, then I give you a good deal of respect. That must be time-consuming. That is dedication without which none of this is possible. Occurs to me that I would never have posted half the shit that goes in here were I in your shoes. I log in a couple of times a day and piss people off. Is this a one man band? I think given Mariah Daily, Mariah owes you VIP tickets to the butterfly room. Without one person the MC discourse fails. I'd be interested to hear your opinions on things given that proven dedication. I'm not sure it would be a conflict of interest. If anything, I think it would be of interest to hear from the person whose intention is as pure as any of us could claim. Even if I don't like it. But if not, I may not be "one of [you]" but it's kinda cool what you do, mate. Peace out. (Thursday 19 March 2015; 1:43)

Stupidity illuminated (51,032) by Andrew from UK Did sanity and reason just stop the planet and get off? Illuminati? I am massively ashamed to be a part of any board entertaining such ridiculous notions. We have our differences but education, virtue and righteousness must always prevail. North Americans are as different in their approach as Latin Americans, Europeans West and Eastern, Sub-Asian etc are. However sanity and reason absolutely must prevail. I'm genuinely shocked. We sink as low as we can fight our way up but that is not a position from which any logical argument can surface. I like Mariah Carey as a musical artist. I don't need to eat her hair or pretend my personal life is dependent upon hers. But illuminati? I feel genuinely nauseous if MC conversations are reduced to this. I don't know her but I would like to think that the soul from which that voice did spring wouldn't look upon messages like this with opinion, but with contempt. Seriously weird. No comment upon it deserves respect. Get a grip. Concentrate on her voice, her compositions and her stage presence. (Thursday 19 March 2015; 1:20)

One of her best (51,031) by Lee Smith from UK Can we all just appreciate how on fire our diva was at Live Aid when the worlds stage watched her perform? This performance of Make it happen is very pleasing. (Thursday 19 March 2015; 1:10)

RJJ12 and Wendy's agenda (51,030) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End RJ, Wendy is trolling Mariah. And it doesn't hurt her ratings because contrary to popular belief any story about Mariah holds the interest of the GP. Isn't it funny how she had more access to Mariah when she did radio though? You would think TV had elevated her status but it seems like it did just the opposite. I'm glad Mariah pays her dust, just like she does all the negative Nancys and Debbie downers. We should follow her example in our own lives. goes out to Shelly (Thursday 19 March 2015; 0:51)

Wow three messages on the row haha (51,029) by May from Denmark Sorry guys, I just had some time and it was a fun topic. Guess anything goes until Vegas haha. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 23:08)

Edward, yes (51,028) by May from Denmark It's nice to read some voice of reason. I understand people want to keep an open mind but there are things that with the time they just keep repeating, some of us have lived through the... how many so far? Four-five calls for the Armageddon and the end of the world? Really, how many times more? It's almost laughable that people always point at the illuminati because they are a "secret organization" but seem to forget that the best known evangelist preachers who are not in hiding in the US are all mega rich, money they did out of the pocket of their followers, live in the least humble ways and they use "symbols" everybody knows and all in the name of Jesus but nobody seems to be much bothered about them taking from those in need. Sometimes I feel people just like to believe in such things as illuminati because is "mysterious ooooh spooky". Keep an open mind but don't eat everything you get fed. Edward you said it right, money buys anything. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 23:06)

Mariah "into that one group" (51,027) by May from Denmark Amber C, I'm not saying Mariah could not suddenly have been talked into this or that and gone a bit loopy, I'm not denying that, she could go for whatever she believes and falls for, after all, if there are people like Tom Cruise and Travolta getting so much scammed by Scientology clearly why not Mariah being used as well for some other garbage out there, she is in a weak spot after the divorce, the low sales album, the lip-synch act, etc. There are always leeches and people who want to take advantage, why not, yes. But from there for me to think she is acting weird, I personally don't think so, she has been very polite and sweet the few times she has been caught. The woman in black, like you well said, could just be someone from a new team, a new friend, she could be anyone, we don't live with Mariah 24/7 to know every single person she has in her telephone agenda. What I pointed out before is that the whole illuminati stuff is just another bollocks of the tons and unaccountable amounts of made up things, I just hope Mariah is smarter than that. When I was small, there was this fanatism with the occult, people'd think that everything was satanic, from very popular celebrities to metal and kids songs. The most popular ridiculous thing to do was to "summon" Satan by picking the cassette of your favorite artist or disco and play it backwards, then you would hear the devil talking to you, and people believed it, people believed Brooke Shields was part of a satanic club lol. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 22:30)

YouTube, Amber C (51,026) by May from Denmark There is an option in YouTube and Google accounts where you can simply hide any info including the history. The history can be wiped out clean and set into private mode including likes given to videos and comments done, etc. Also even other uploads can be set to private or public, so who knows, maybe the person might have other videos "hidden" around. It is a lot of mystery haha, pretty funny. I would love to hear the whole songs. Regarding the "lost interview", Mariah mentioned in there she did lots and lots of songs including alternative. And that is exactly what I'm dying for, because she even laughed about it. What type of alternative music could Mariah have done? Wow, I hope one day she releases a bunch of those past things or ventures in those places publicly. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 22:14)

The illuminati (51,025) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands This subject is so funny. The illuminati is a group of "people claiming to possess special enlightenment or knowledge of something". They're not after world domination by mind controlling people (although when I read some posts, it seems many people believe they are, or these posters are just insane). This raises one single question: If Mariah is influenced by the illuminati, then why is that woman wearing their sign? Isn't it supposed to be a secret? (Ok, that were two questions.) By the way, this messageboard is not (yet) run by the illuminati and they haven't threatened me yet, but to be sure I'm going into hiding the next couple of days. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 20:59)

"The handlers" and other info (51,024) by Ardis Logic from Earth Here is a video that explains what these "handlers" do. Then this video that goes in depth of the "programming". I have watched many videos about this topic and it appears that almost everyone who is "in the spotlight" has been "programmed" in some way. It is very strange and almost unbelievable, but I am an open minded person, so I always leave the possibility open that anything is possible. Not saying this is true but it is interesting to know about. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 20:28)

Shelly (51,023) by Bill from the UK What sad news, you are the loveliest person. But, you do what you need to do. Looking forward to seeing you after Vegas. Love the Someday demo, I hope Mariah is planning a 25th anniversary of the debut with the demo tape added on as a bonus, how great would that be to commemorate her career with what started it all? I can't believe I made the top 10 posters lol. Sorry everyone haha. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 20:00)

The illuminati (51,022) by Jared from USA I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Like Edward said, if you look hard enough, you'll find symbols and signs everywhere. People who wear funky jewelry don't necessarily do it out of adherence to a cult or knowledge of the symbolism behind certain images. Maybe that woman with the "Eye of Horus" just thought it was cute and tried to make a fashion statement. Besides, if the illuminati were real and still active, what exactly are they trying to accomplish by "controlling" artists like Beyonce and Katy Perry? Are they trying to raise funds for their nefarious plans with concert revenues? Are they trying to brainwash the masses into mindless single ladies putting their hands up? What is the point of all this? What's their end game? And what do they plan to do with the people who don't listen to their artist puppets? Someone please tell me, because I haven't been paranoid enough to read up on their doings. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 18:05)

Woman in black (51,021) by Luke from United Kingdom Ever considered maybe Mariah is working with a new team like a lot of people on here have wanted? I don't know if the illuminati is real or not but if it is I'm sure Mariah has probably dealt with it before. I don't neccesarily believe in God like the Bible says but I like to think there is a greater power we can turn to for help in a more spiritual sense. It's up to people to believe in whatever makes them feel happy as well. However, I do think that if there is a good almighty power, there ultimately has to be a bad. Yin and yang and all that jazz. Jewellery doesn't comfirm this though. Being and avid jewellery wearer I've bought multiple accessories without really knowing the meaning behind their design. Maybe this woman has done the same thing haha. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:56)

The cassette on YouTube (51,020) by Amber C from USA Well, I did some investigating on the account which posted the early released cassete thingy lol. Anyway, the user has been online since 2009, however the user has no history, no watched videos, and no comments in her history. Hmmm. We need to do some fun investigation. What does Mariah's finger look like? Also in the comments certain users give out info that may be telling. They too have no history whatsoever. I don't know what's happening these days, from the woman in black, to the leaks, to the weird behavior and other things you guys would call me supersticious for. Also, does anyone know when exactly Mariah started acting heavily medicated? I'm not a blind bat so don't insult me please. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:45)

This is my last post ever about the woman in black (51,018) by Amber C from USA You guys call yourselves fans, and swear you know some of the hidden messages behind her videos, yet your telling my that you cant tell when Mariah is talking about that one society. LA Reid is in it, Jay Z is in it, Bey is in it and so many others. And Mariah is friends with them. Have you listened to Emily Saunde's song Clown? It's called a contract, when you sign the contract they can do whatever they want to you. Lol we are in 2015, stop saying things are "conspiracies". That's so 2005. Too many people are as blind as bats on here. When did Mariah come out with the butterfly symbole? When she was free from Sony. She was showing that it did not own her anymore, she owned it. She wasn't under its control anymore, she controlled it. That's all, I'm done with this topic. We don't know M personally darlings. And all this Ariana stuff is not by chance. (I'm pretty sure.) (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:32)

The powers that be (51,017) by Edward from USA We don't need a "satanic order" to know that this world is governed by those with power and money. It is true that just for the right amount of money they can actually made a DJ not to play an artist and drown his/her career easily. Money can also buy good and bad press, it all depends on how much money and the people you can manipulate. If the illuminati were so powerful with their spells, they would've cured Whitney instead of "killing her" or maybe they'll give Mariah her 90's voice back. Mariah is an aging star, Rihanna will also be in time, but isn't that the game of life? Nothing stays the same. There were great vocalist before Mariah, and there are going to be great ones after her, people are going to keep dying and accidents will happening, there are going to be good people, but also there are going to be criminals out there, that's life. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 16:39)

May, Annabelle is coming (51,016) by Edward from USA May, I completely agree with you about these ridiculous conspiracy theories. Some people are always looking for the fifth leg of every situation. They've gone though an entire Rihanna video frame by frame looking for something that looks satanic, and they swear by it. This guy sold a DVD to a friend of mine in which a guy was talking about supposed forthcoming events that were inevitable, that he had been part of the illuminati, but he had deflected and was now warning people about what he had heard from these super powerful human beings in their meetings. The guy was very charismatic and spoke very well, he sounded so convincing, but I guess I'm not easily indoctrinated, I had enough with my Catholic family trying to shove the Bible up my behind. Well, none of these events ever happened, and that was in 2011. Tommy tried it with Thalia, it never happened. He tried with Lindsay Lohan, it never happened. So, these Illuminati people are very much hit and miss. It's time they resuscitate Whitney, her death was what I call "illuminati gone wrong". Oh my God, I just saw Annabelle, she's coming for me. This could be my last post. Help meeee. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 16:18)

Lady in black (51,015) by THE TRUTH from USA May and Edward you seem to get very confrontational over this issue. There is in fact plenty of evidence about the illuminati in Hollywood and if you choose to cover your eyes, and plug your ears while screaming that everyone who sees that is crazy then that's up to you. Regarding being out alone with MC's brother, these pics of him online depict him as someone she was probably feeling pretty safe with. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:47)

This is just funny (51,014) by Will from England Out of all the theories that this board has come up with, the illuminati has the be the funniest, and the most ridiculous one I've ever heard of. This is what you get when you read too much into a situation/picture. Has it not crossed people's minds that the mystery woman could just be Mariah's new publicist/art director/something along those lines? There are so many plausible and realistic explanations for who this woman is, rather than jumping straight to (most likely) wrong (and yet hilarious) explanations. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:32)

The illuminati is coming for Mariah (51,013) by Edward from USA Let's not pretend we haven't seen Mariah out and about without her bodyguards before. She's been out alone with her brother Morgan several times, I just don't remember the style of his earrings, maybe they were the "Eyes of Tommy". She's been to the Aquarium and even to Central Park without them, just an assistant. My friend got a picture with her when she was shopping by herself in mall Brooklyn, no assistant. Many big names in the industry move around without an entourage sometimes, they want to be able to breathe and not come across as weird in places where people are as rich as they are if not more, and are not being escorted by a bunch of giants to protect them. There are many pieces of jewelry out there with signs and symbols, but that doesn't necessarily mean people know anything about them or that those who find them cute or own them belong to this "satanic" order that "is killing artists" because they are worth more dead than alive. The most ridiculous thing I've seen on YouTube is that Whitney Houston was offered as a tribute so that Brandy could take her place. Well, Brandy had a great album and still is not relevant. So where is the power of this illuminati? If we look for lights in the sky, we'll sure find them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are there. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:10)

The Truth (51,012) by May from Denmark You need to put the tinfoil down and the paranoia aside and the conspiracy theories just drop them, really, all that garbage just throw it away. Stop all that superstition and don't try to drag people into that trap. Also, Mariah on pills, booze, yada yada? What? I admit Mariah does drinky-drinky up to tipsy point on stage a few times but on pills, or being an alcoholic, that's far fetched. If she was on Xanax and other "on-the-counter-let's-abuse-it mix prescribed" we would all know by now, I highly doubt she is the one that goes around gulping down her throat oxycodone while drinking a Patron. The only time she was linked remotely to drugs was when that lawyer came out saying she does cocaine and yet his story was implausible. I could imagine trying out pot once in a while, she is always surrounded by rappers so why not haha, even if it's second hand. But come on, sotp making up ridiculous assumptions and stop with with the Illuminati BS because that's what it is, superstitious stuff, come back and live the 21st century please. Science and reason are calling. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 14:38)

Woman in black (51,011) by clueey23 from USA So do you guys think this women is MC's handler and she is under heavy mind control? I'm confused. I know what I know and that's all I know. And I've said this several times on this board but, Hollywood and fame are scary places to be. Very dangerous. People are so money hungry that they kill people off because they feel they are worth more dead than alive. I always believed that during her Sony days she was under heavy mind control prior to the divorce. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 14:04)

Mariah Carey and the illuminati? (51,010) by Ardis Logic from Earth Here is an interesting video that may be disturbing to some of you. I'm not sure what to believe but it is interesting. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 13:35)

The illuminati (51,009) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter After writing that post I did check it out. I realized I was stupid haha, I didn't know that "the all seeing eye" (which I always knew was the symbol of the illuminati" was the same as the "eye of Horus". Anyways I don't know if it's true if MC actually thought that was the last means of reviving her career, but I hope not. I can disregard the suspicious jewellery choice of the woman as being a wannabe illuminati freak who wants to look edgy, however I do find it weird that MC is not seen with her usual entourage. While people who have repeatedly been associated with the illuminati are the ones at the top now (Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry), I wouldn't want MC to go down that path. It usually doesn't end well. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 13:34)

The coincidence thing (51,008) by Jec from Philippines Hi. I'm Jec. I'm 15 years old and I always visit this messageboard for almost 2 years. I'm a real fan of MC and I really enjoy this forum since the first time I visited it. Btw, I agree to the one who posted about the coincidence in the leaked tracks, live performances, and lost interviews. Mariah goes back to Sony anyway, so it does make sense to me. I think that Mariah uses fake accounts to YouTube to leak these things. I hope that someday, St. John performance in 1994, undubbed 1993 Thanksgiving concert, and Underneath The Stars video would see the light of the day. I really think there is something huge for the lambs this 2015. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 12:57)

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