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Bill / first album (49,089) by Dove from USA The first Mariah album I ever heard was Music Box and it was in 1993. My aunt had the CD and I used to go over to her house (next door) almost every day to listen to it. She knew I loved it, so she eventually gave it to me. The first one I ever owned new was Daydream. I still remember the day I bought the cassette tape, I was so excited. I went home and played it on repeat while reading the lyrics and staring at the pictures until it was bedtime. Her voice was so perfect and angelic to me, listening to it felt magical at the time. I had seen some of her other videos, Someday, Emotions, Make it Happen, but I didn't know it was her because she looked different. The next one I bought was Unplugged and my best friend in 7th grade gave me the Christmas one for Christmas. Then I bought Emotions in 8th grade. I actually didn't buy the first album until I was a freshman in High School in 97-98. Daydream and all the ones after it I bought on the day they came out. Bill and Abraham I opened a Twitter account a few months ago, to follow MC, my handle is @DoveValentine83 if you want to follow me. I'm new to Twitter so there's not a lot on it, but that way we can keep in touch. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:24)

Her smile (49,088) by Chris from United States So, MC has been looking not so happy lately, with all hell breaking loose all around, who can blame her? All through the Elusive tour she did not look happy at all. Almost like she was going through the motions, just to make herself busy. But, the video of her walking past in Vegas gave me a little glimpse of contentment. I feel like I haven't seen her genuinely smile in so long, and that made me happy. I'm not a fan of this residency much, but it is what it is. It could go either way, and I'm just going to hope for the best. All I know is, after missing her at the Beacon, I won't be missing this. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:10)

Fan shaming (49,087) by Chris from United States I've been a long time visitor of this board and have remained almost silent all of 2014. The reason being, is that there are too many people that work for Mariah on here. Like seriously, on her payroll. At least that's what they'd like all the bad people to know. Any kind of constructive criticism is looked at as "hating", and it's so sad. Some of you need to grow up, and realize the world isn't all rainbows and puppies. I've read some posts that look like some folks reverted back to grade school mentality, telling others to "shut up", while they pout in the corner. There are only about 1-2 people on here that I don't believe are in MC's corner, and we know who they are. Other than that, if you could put your big people pants on and realize that there are no enemies here, the real world would appreciate it. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:57)

Mariah's not a performer (49,086) by Darryle from USA A lot of people seem to think that Vegas is a bad idea because Mariah's not a performer. Not true. Mariah can put on a performance it's just that she doesn't try. There are many things she could do to make her shows better. Like ditch the ball gowns unless she sings a ballad. It's time for a change she's played them out. Don't use the same setlist as TECS. Do more up-tempos because it's a fast paced setting. Mariah doesn't work the stage very well so she should bring back the Honey, Heartbreaker, IKWYW, and Fantasy dances instead of standing at the mic. Since it's Vegas she should sing Breakdown and ISIL since the videos incorporate show girl elements it'd be easy to choreograph a chair dance to them. And for the love of God please don't sit on top a piano or in a chaise lounge to sing ballads. Just stand at a mic. It looks so much better. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:37)

Mariah's "yes" entourage (49,084) by ADAM from USA I would like to say thanks to Giselle and Amber20 for your recent posts. Your posts took the words out of my mouth. I also wonder why Mariah still seems to keep making the same decisions primarily based on money. Some examples include Virgin Records, American Idol, and now this Vegas gig. If she never produced any music or did any shows she has enough money in the bank to stay afloat comfortably for not only herself but for many generations to come. I don't think she surrounds herself with honest people. Rachel, Jermaine, Trey, Jim Wright, and Debbie Allen are all on her payroll and would never bite the hand that feeds them. They just let her fill her head with these grand delusions that all is well. I'm not saying she isn't responsible for her own choices but the so called friends around her should really be ashamed of themselves for not loving Mariah enough to really tell her the truth. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:36)

Marcus / Amber (49,083) by Dove from USA Thanks Marcus. And you're right, I was rude. I've been reading comments everywhere that are so negative and I guess I let them get to me. It seems like some people do create accounts just to be downers. But Amber maybe you weren't doing that and I just assumed, so I do apologize for being rude to you after your first post. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:23)

Mariah the businesswoman is Vegas? (49,082) by jaker20 from US I don't get that reasoning that she has to do Vegas because a lot of mouths depend on her. That is the absolute worst reasoning to do Vegas, because that is a reasoning based on money. And money not even for her sake but for the sake of people around her who pressure her to do it. After her breakdown 13 years ago, I thought she released herself from these sycophants who made her work like a horse for their job security. She should be more mature, secure with her money, and be more comfortable to do what she wants. Like Streisand after her peak. Like Madonna after her peak. I am more concerned about MC than the people around her, because the people around her will overwork her until her voice is shut and they can't take anything from her anymore. Vegas will be the end of MC on radio, charts and TV you can guarantee that. There is absolutely no way she can write and be inspired and record great and inspiring songs while she is in Vegas. It's just not physically possible. Hence the fallen stars who go to Vegas and never recovered. Vegas is an admission that she's no longer a pop musician. And I don't believe that. I believe she has more great music to give. I believe she can still be relevant and have another comeback. She is pushing 50, so every remaining ounce of her voice could be put to better use than Vegas. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 0:30)

Shelly / disagreements (49,081) by Marcus from Brazil Shelly, I first would like to say that I enjoy your posts, and I think you are a sweet person. I was going to ask you to keep your face pic as your avatar the other day, since to me it gave more soul to your posts, but I forgot. As for my last post, the thing is that nobody needs to convince anybody of being fan, and nobody is entitled to label who is one or not. When you thanked Amber C for having created an account to ruin the mood on the board, I thought it was rude and unwelcoming. We can all agree or agree to disagree, but how we express our disagreements makes a huge difference. Many things and opinions have been said about the possibility of a residency in Vegas, some I don't agree with, but that's all it is, nobody can really ruin my mood unless I allow it. Peace. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 0:05)

Marcus (49,080) by Dove from USA When people pick apart every single decision Mariah makes and focus only on the negatives in every single post, they are not fans, no matter how hard they try to convince everyone that they are. I'm not saying people need to be positive 100% of the time but some people never have anything good to say. Yes, they have the right to any opinion they choose, and they can keep being as negative as they want as much as they want, but every single time I'm going to counter with my opinion too. If you don't like it just don't read it, it ain't that deep. (Side note: when I mentioned "so-called fans" I was not writing about Amber, even though the post was directed at her.) (Friday 9 January 2015; 23:36)

Amber C / Taryn (49,079) by Abraham from USA Well if he blocked you, it was obviously for a reason. Taryn please, Mariah is only 44. You're not "old" until you can't walk anymore. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:53)

The hating game (49,078) by Marcus from Brazil Here we go again. Some people here can't stand the fact that others have different opinions. As soon as you don't agree with what they say or the mood they like the messageboard to be in, they start the name calling, "haters" and "so called fans" are preferred, others call to jump on the ban wagon of the hating game. The sense of entitlement of some people here is really out of this world. If you don't like a post, take a chill pin, and keep on being as positive as you want to be, but don't try to make people think or act like you, that would be boring as hell. It ain't that serious, it is a messageboard with people that evidently are going to have different opinions. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:49)

Amber C (49,077) by Dove from USA Of course you have the right to post your point of view but I also have the right to disagree. I'm not going to get into everything you wrote but for example: "I believe Mariah has only one more chance to 'slay'/have a musical 'moment' in the industry." This lack of belief in her is negative IMO. And "Mariah has little friends, and the people around her don't give a rats tail about her." How do you know how many friends she has or how they feel about her? The back up singers have been with her since her first album, she keeps hiring them back so they must have some sort of bond or relationship. Regarding your other post: We all work to make money. Sometimes we don't feel like it but we drag ourselves to work anyway because it's better than laying around feeling sorry for ourselves. If we like our jobs it's not as bad having to do it. I have a feeling Mariah likes her job a lot. Nobody is making her work and if she really didn't want to, she wouldn't. She's 44 years old with 25 years in the business. Everyone accuses her of being a diva so she's obviously not afraid to ask for what she wants. I highly doubt two or three nights a week for a couple of years is going to ruin her. I would just rather focus on what could go right. We don't know who she's going to hire or how it's going to be. TECS was obviously low budget but that doesn't automatically mean the Vegas show will be. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:42)

B (49,076) by Dove from USA Thank you. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:33)

Vegas (49,075) by NYHotShotta from USA Mariah sounded really good in Australia two years ago especially here. With this whole Vegas residency I think it could be detrimental to her voice as far as constantly doing shows. I think that should be her main focus if she does and she should hire a vocal coach to help her. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:24)

First Mariah album / Shelly (49,074) by Bill from the UK Out of interest, what was everybody's first Mariah album they heard? Mine was Music Box back in 1993. I had the cassette, and I remember listening to it on my Walkman in bed at night, and just loving the artwork and the excitement of seeing she had other albums I knew nothing of (there was an advertisement for her other albums in the sleeve). Until then I thought Dreamlover was her first song. Hi Shelly. Well I was doing a round the world trip, I was definitely in Australia during March as it was the "wet season" up North, and Las Vegas was my last stop, so it may have been in April. I can't recall if it was early, mid, or late though. I will find out and let you know. I remember being somewhat perplexed that Celine never sang Think Twice during her show. That, and Titanic, were the only songs of hers I knew, and Think Twice was #1 in the UK for weeks and weeks. Maybe it wasn't as popular elsewhere. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:12)

I love Mariah Carey (49,073) by Taryn from South Africa I would just like to express my love for Mariah. I grew up with Mariah. She is part of my heart and life. I have memories of Mariah as I was growing up. I was a child when she first sang Hero. I remember watching her singing it on tv that time. She was like no other. She was something special. To this day I still cry when I think of the young Mariah. Feel like crying now actually. Well, the Mariah of today is so different. Geez, one will never say it's the same person. It makes me so sad to listen to her older music today. So I only look at who she is now, in the present day and age. This is my first time on this message board. I just want to express my love and at the same time sadness because she is getting old now. With love from Taryn. (Friday 9 January 2015; 21:44)

Shelly how was my comment negative? (49,072) by Amber C from USA I wasn't trying to dampen the mood around here. My comment was not negative what so ever. (Friday 9 January 2015; 19:47)

Concerning those who share my p.o.v (49,071) by Amber C from USA Mariah needs a break. What you guys don't realize is that Mariah is not just a musician, she is a business. People depend on her for their livelihood. She is supporting her whole team (through her record company) but you get the point. Celebs feel this pressure, and sometimes it's the reason why they overwork themselves. Take for example her nephew on twitter (he blocked me for calling him out for his arrogance, but that's for another time). I asked him why Mariah is doing so much touring, performing at "this" time in her life (the divorce, her emotions, her tired vocal cords), his reply went something like this: "It's whatever, she's making a whole lot of money working as supposed to not working." Knowing things like this makes me feel guilty as a fan. I know money is important, but if that's the reason you still drag youself on to the stage to perform, even with tired vocals, then I don't know how to feel about that. (Friday 9 January 2015; 19:44)

Mariah's sister asks for help (49,070) by Alejandro Cole from Colombia This is not true, Mariah will never let her family down even if they are no longer in touch or whatsoever, we often forget that she is human apart from the superstar thing. She has the right to fight, cry and decide if a bond is broken with such a close family member. But this is not only about Mariah, her brother and mother would have helped her already, so I refuse to believe yet another stupid story about Mariah. This is delicate though and is not a game. Family is family. I feel sorry for MC, this isn't right. (Friday 9 January 2015; 18:16)

Celine in Vegas (49,066) by jaker20 from US Her voice went completely downhill after her Vegas residency. And her voice was in a much better state then than MC now. My only concern right now is MC's fragile voice at the moment. Once you sign that dotted line those sharks in Vegas will squeeze every ounce of you. It is more grueling then touring actually. It's pretty much goodbye pop music career. I still think MC has a few more great albums and singles left, but a Vegas residency would be her saying bye bye to her voice, the charts and pop music. Vegas is residency is 50 to 70 shows per year. And I've not really heard a one year residency. That's more or less 2 to 3 years. Look at what happened to Celine. And her voice isn't even in worse shape as MC now. I can only imagine what it will do to her already fragile voice. You know why for some reason you notice a certain artist disappears from pop music landscape? From radio, music videos, and tv and everything else? That's because they're raking the dollars in Vegas. They have no time to concentrate on a good album and singles and all that stuff. Once they sign that dotted Vegas line, they will be slaving away for Vegas sharks for many years. Unless you travel to Vegas, you simply won't hear anything from her except on Youtube. No new music and album for a couple of years, and if she does, it'll be a lazy uninspired album. Forget about her voice getting shut after 50 to 70 shows per year. Her body and mind will be shut. Let's face it, MC is doing this to forget Nick. I would rather her be busy and focused with song writing and recording again. Sorry, but Vegas is not only for has-been, but for has-been who admit they are one. It's so weird that even Madonna won't sign a billion dollar contract she was offered a few years ago for a Vegas residency, when her strip club act is more fitting there. Yet her is MC needing it to get through her issues. (Friday 9 January 2015; 17:26)

Wish list for Mariah in Vegas (49,065) by ADAM from USA I'm not a fan of Mariah going to Vegas because I feel a permanent spot performing on the strip will only highlight to non-fans of Mariah's that she does lip sync and has lost a majority of her original singing voice. This will be an embarrassing spectacle for her because we all know she's going to lip sync several entire songs, hire lame Debbie Allen to produce the show and have her friend Rachel choreograph some whack dance moves. As a fan I can accept her shortcomings and still love her but I think this will only tarnish and lampoon her legacy. If I had my way, she would would only lip sync the hardest parts of certain songs and actually perform different material. I'm so tired of her performing the same setlist. She even looks bored performing it that I don't know why she doesn't at least change the arrangements to perform it acoustically like MTV Unplugged or have an entirely different beat. And please don't use Randy Jackson again. His medley for American Idol was horrible and just weird. Beyonce is a good example of someone who makes her old catalog interesting during different arrangements or used for interludes. I wish she'd perform fan favorites and other #1s which get no love like Love Takes Time, I Don't Wanna Cry, Can't Let Go, Butterfly in their entirety. I know it won't happen but on a good note, I'll definetly have a reason to finally go see Vegas and support our girl MC. I can't wait. (Friday 9 January 2015; 16:15)

Shelly (49,064) by B from USA I adore you. Keep posting. (Friday 9 January 2015; 16:11)

Mariah Carey (49,063) by B from USA I'm selfish. I love MIAMTEC but I still want another album. I own a copy and have promoted it to all my friends and family and on Facebook. I understand why Mariah didn't promote it though because every interviewer would have asked about Nick and she didn't want to deal with that. She's still relevant. She's still The Voice and she's still a Pop genius. I want her to write an undeniable Pop smash before she retires something like Dreamlover or Fantasy. The throne belongs to Mariah. She is queen. (Friday 9 January 2015; 16:10)

Amber C (49,062) by Dove from USA Thank you for creating an account on here to try and dampen everyone's mood with that negative message. It's not over until we die. As long as she's still breathing, she'll have a lot more musical moments and chances to shine. She just got divorced, of course she's lonely. A lot of people are lonely. But she has friends, her family, music, pets, and her loyal fans (for life), she'll be okay. On a side note: I can't believe 23 people liked post 49,020. Where am I and who are you people? It reads like the "so-called" fans want her to retire already. (Friday 9 January 2015; 15:38)

Mariah's sister (49,061) by Dove from USA Isn't Star Magazine a tabloid? Most of what they print is not true anyway. They print stories about the Lochness monster. MC wouldn't let her niece and nephew become homeless. If this story is true, why didn't AC try to get in touch with MC through their mom? Going through a tabloid is kinda low, like airing your dirty laundry. MC is such a private person too. AC should have given that letter to their mom to give to MC. If their mom isn't talking to her either, that's the saddest part of this story. (Friday 9 January 2015; 14:58)

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