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Re: Fan shaming (49,087) by Chris from United States (49,099) by TJ from Norway I agree with you on that message. I have been posting here since the beginning of MCA (or at least I believe so). I love the MCA and the work that Eric still do, but I don't post as often as I used to. It seems like people know her in person here (even if I don't believe they do). (Saturday 10 January 2015; 10:16)

Gone are the days when Mariah liked communicating on social medias, sadly (49,098) by Amber C from USA Who are these "Mariah people", who work for Mariah? I sometimes get the feeling Mariah is in lala land as the handlers steer her career this way and that way. Sometimes I truly wonder if she reads fan blogs or twitter. I don't want to hear: "Oh she's a mom, oh she's busy, or it's too negative." Guess what? the current stars/artists are very in touch with their fan bases. Even Britney Spears who is heavily out of it and medicated has done ustreams for fans. I wish Mariah would have a ustream. I wish she knew the following things: 1) A makeover would be fun and fresh for this new era of your life. 2) Faded or Cry should have been a single. 3) If you have a drinking problem, I hope those who care about you are telling you the truth. 4) Going to Vegas will not benefit you what so ever. 5) If you know you need a better team around you, why don't you advertise it. Unemployed lambs will be happy to take the job lol. Jk. PS. I'm looking to the left at a post for Fifth Harmony. (I'm 19 so I do have an interest in them.) Dinah followed me and liked some of my Mariah tweets on twitter after she reveled she was a lamb. It would be cool to see Mariah connect with upcoming artists who really look up to her. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 6:59)

More residency thoughts (49,097) by Marissa from USA Darrlye, you're right, Mariah may have the ability to be a performer but she typically isn't exercising it. I miss times like the Butterfly World Tour where she was actually putting on a show and trying. Nowadays singing on a random chaise lounge thrown on the stage is considered a great show. As long as those remain her only standards for a great performance, America is going to chew her up and spit her out. The US is not as forgiving as other countries, so this isn't the time to play around or be lazy. It's not that I don't trust Mariah's ability to slay or put on a good show, it's that I don't trust that she will put in the effort because her priorities always seem to be elsewhere (yes I know that she has kids now, but I'm just saying). Jaker20, I agree. I wish the energy that's going to be put into Vegas would be put into a well-promoted (caps) album. Vegas is just a distraction from the chart slaying that she could be doing. I agree Edward. A lot of people seem to be rooting for Vegas more for the convenience of not having to fly across the globe to see MC rather than assessing whether it's really a good career move. I stay at Caesar's Palace in Vegas every summer, so believe me, I understand the thought process, but still. Regardless of what I think, the recent MC spotting confirms it so. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 6:31)

Mariah's performances, response to Edward (49,096) by ADAM from USA I agree with your comments Edward. Before Mariah's voice started to falter and decline around 1999, her performances were always engaging and confident. She moved across the stage a lot and did many vocal acrobatics that reflected her confidence in her voice. Ever since 99, her performances have gradually become more theatrical about the lighting, costumes, diva-isms as almost a substitute to hide behind the fact that her voice is no longer reliable. I miss the light in her eyes and stage presence in her earlier days when she sang. Nowadays she looks so bored performing the same songs in the same arrangements and the songs always feel like every note is such a struggle it hurts to watch her. I hope Vegas will be a hit for her. She has the catalog of songs to put together a great show, I just fear that she will be lampooned for lip syncing because I don't think she will be able to sing all the songs regularly without being caught faking it. Any thoughts on matter? (Saturday 10 January 2015; 4:37)

Mariah Daily Journal finally updated (49,095) by Warrior Butterfly from USA They have done a post about the "rumor" of Mariah doing a residency in Vegas. I have read in the past that MDJ, is controlled or at least over scene by Mariah's team. How can it be fan page if fans are not in control? (Saturday 10 January 2015; 3:40)

Chris S / payroll (49,094) by Edward from USA Chris S, I couldn't agree with you more. Sometimes this is like that song Mariah recorded for Rainbow, but never released, "High School 101, Back In Time". (Saturday 10 January 2015; 3:27)

Mariah / Vegas (49,093) by Giselle #1 Mariah Critic from USA Thanks Adam, I appreciate your post. MCA has always been a fan site where all opinions good or bad are welcomed. That's why I've always enjoyed this site. There are other sites that cater to just good Mariah news and messages. I suggest those who want the latter go to those. That's pretty much just it. We're all Mariah fans, we all love and want the best for her. I like others see her as a family member we love but sometimes you gotta give them tough love. Vegas would be great for her, just not anytime soon. She needs to rest and enjoy life. Take care of her voice, find herself again and get inspired. Get her personal life In control. Look at JLo, she's not perfect, doesn't sell anything but you would never guess. She's so put together and comfortable in her skin and age she owns it. On to #MC25 I keep listening to this now, I wish Mariah wouldn't be so ashamed of this era. Someday is everything. The whole album is great, it's still one of her best solid body of work she's released. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 3:21)

Mariah in Vegas (49,092) by Manny from U.S. I'm confused. First, some people were complaining that Mariah was not going to perform in the US. Now, that there is a big possibility that she'll be in Vegas, everyone is complaining for A, B and C reasons. I'm sure she will not perform every night and will have vocal rest. She will not worry about so much commute. I'm not a parent but I am a school teacher. When I speak to parents, they make decisions based on their children. Mariah is a mother. When Matt Lauer asked if being a mother changed her, she said 100 percent, I think. Her everyday role is being a mother. To Roc and Roe, she is their mother. As fans, we might see her as a superstar, goddess, etc. Let's not forgot she has her personal life and she is a mother. It just seems selfish to want and expect her to be the 1995 Mariah. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 3:21)

Being an entertainer / Ms. Ross (49,091) by Edward from USA Many people seem to have the misconception that being an entertainer has to do with dancing, when that's not quite the truth. Being an entertainer has to do with confidence, how you move around and work the stage, how you engage the audience. Diana Ross has a little voice compared to Mariah, but the woman was great entertainer, it wasn't the dancing, it wasn't the singing, it was her presence, her confidence. Mariah was more of an entertainer when she could control her voice; her mind was more into the performance, and less into the possibility of a vocal failure. If Vegas is part of gradual retirement, I think it is ok, but like Jaker20 stated, she's not getting any younger, and her voice is fragile. We can all be selfish and want her to be in a place where we could see her when we want, but that doesn't necessarily mean it would be the best career choice for her. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:50)

Vegas (49,090) by Kyle from USA I saw Celine Dion 2 years ago in Vegas. She did a lot of talking and a lot of ballads. Her show was only 1 hour, 20 minutes. She didn't even do all her hits such as "To Love You More", "Alive", or "I Want You To Need Me". She actually did three or four covers from Adele and Stevie Wonder. We all can agree Celine Dion is amazing and can sing. However, her commercial success isn't as high as Mariah. She scored $100 million contract and sold out every night. Vegas has something, got everyone. You guys act like she's going to stay there forever. This will be a short residency for a de months then bam. MC will be back. Mariah always has something up her sleeve so let's embrace this move, go to Vegas to see her, and be ready when she comes back with a pow single. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:28)

Bill / first album (49,089) by Dove from USA The first Mariah album I ever heard was Music Box and it was in 1993. My aunt had the CD and I used to go over to her house (next door) almost every day to listen to it. She knew I loved it, so she eventually gave it to me. The first one I ever owned new was Daydream. I still remember the day I bought the cassette tape, I was so excited. I went home and played it on repeat while reading the lyrics and staring at the pictures until it was bedtime. Her voice was so perfect and angelic to me, listening to it felt magical at the time. I had seen some of her other videos, Someday, Emotions, Make it Happen, but I didn't know it was her because she looked different. The next one I bought was Unplugged and my best friend in 7th grade gave me the Christmas one for Christmas. Then I bought Emotions in 8th grade. I actually didn't buy the first album until I was a freshman in High School in 97-98. Daydream and all the ones after it I bought on the day they came out. Bill and Abraham I opened a Twitter account a few months ago, to follow MC, my handle is @DoveValentine83 if you want to follow me. I'm new to Twitter so there's not a lot on it, but that way we can keep in touch. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:24)

Her smile (49,088) by Chris from United States So, MC has been looking not so happy lately, with all hell breaking loose all around, who can blame her? All through the Elusive tour she did not look happy at all. Almost like she was going through the motions, just to make herself busy. But, the video of her walking past in Vegas gave me a little glimpse of contentment. I feel like I haven't seen her genuinely smile in so long, and that made me happy. I'm not a fan of this residency much, but it is what it is. It could go either way, and I'm just going to hope for the best. All I know is, after missing her at the Beacon, I won't be missing this. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 2:10)

Fan shaming (49,087) by Chris from United States I've been a long time visitor of this board and have remained almost silent all of 2014. The reason being, is that there are too many people that work for Mariah on here. Like seriously, on her payroll. At least that's what they'd like all the bad people to know. Any kind of constructive criticism is looked at as "hating", and it's so sad. Some of you need to grow up, and realize the world isn't all rainbows and puppies. I've read some posts that look like some folks reverted back to grade school mentality, telling others to "shut up", while they pout in the corner. There are only about 1-2 people on here that I don't believe are in MC's corner, and we know who they are. Other than that, if you could put your big people pants on and realize that there are no enemies here, the real world would appreciate it. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:57)

Mariah's not a performer (49,086) by Darryle from USA A lot of people seem to think that Vegas is a bad idea because Mariah's not a performer. Not true. Mariah can put on a performance it's just that she doesn't try. There are many things she could do to make her shows better. Like ditch the ball gowns unless she sings a ballad. It's time for a change she's played them out. Don't use the same setlist as TECS. Do more up-tempos because it's a fast paced setting. Mariah doesn't work the stage very well so she should bring back the Honey, Heartbreaker, IKWYW, and Fantasy dances instead of standing at the mic. Since it's Vegas she should sing Breakdown and ISIL since the videos incorporate show girl elements it'd be easy to choreograph a chair dance to them. And for the love of God please don't sit on top a piano or in a chaise lounge to sing ballads. Just stand at a mic. It looks so much better. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:37)

Mariah's "yes" entourage (49,084) by ADAM from USA I would like to say thanks to Giselle and Amber20 for your recent posts. Your posts took the words out of my mouth. I also wonder why Mariah still seems to keep making the same decisions primarily based on money. Some examples include Virgin Records, American Idol, and now this Vegas gig. If she never produced any music or did any shows she has enough money in the bank to stay afloat comfortably for not only herself but for many generations to come. I don't think she surrounds herself with honest people. Rachel, Jermaine, Trey, Jim Wright, and Debbie Allen are all on her payroll and would never bite the hand that feeds them. They just let her fill her head with these grand delusions that all is well. I'm not saying she isn't responsible for her own choices but the so called friends around her should really be ashamed of themselves for not loving Mariah enough to really tell her the truth. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:36)

Marcus / Amber (49,083) by Dove from USA Thanks Marcus. And you're right, I was rude. I've been reading comments everywhere that are so negative and I guess I let them get to me. It seems like some people do create accounts just to be downers. But Amber maybe you weren't doing that and I just assumed, so I do apologize for being rude to you after your first post. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 1:23)

Mariah the businesswoman is Vegas? (49,082) by jaker20 from US I don't get that reasoning that she has to do Vegas because a lot of mouths depend on her. That is the absolute worst reasoning to do Vegas, because that is a reasoning based on money. And money not even for her sake but for the sake of people around her who pressure her to do it. After her breakdown 13 years ago, I thought she released herself from these sycophants who made her work like a horse for their job security. She should be more mature, secure with her money, and be more comfortable to do what she wants. Like Streisand after her peak. Like Madonna after her peak. I am more concerned about MC than the people around her, because the people around her will overwork her until her voice is shut and they can't take anything from her anymore. Vegas will be the end of MC on radio, charts and TV you can guarantee that. There is absolutely no way she can write and be inspired and record great and inspiring songs while she is in Vegas. It's just not physically possible. Hence the fallen stars who go to Vegas and never recovered. Vegas is an admission that she's no longer a pop musician. And I don't believe that. I believe she has more great music to give. I believe she can still be relevant and have another comeback. She is pushing 50, so every remaining ounce of her voice could be put to better use than Vegas. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 0:30)

Shelly / disagreements (49,081) by Marcus from Brazil Shelly, I first would like to say that I enjoy your posts, and I think you are a sweet person. I was going to ask you to keep your face pic as your avatar the other day, since to me it gave more soul to your posts, but I forgot. As for my last post, the thing is that nobody needs to convince anybody of being fan, and nobody is entitled to label who is one or not. When you thanked Amber C for having created an account to ruin the mood on the board, I thought it was rude and unwelcoming. We can all agree or agree to disagree, but how we express our disagreements makes a huge difference. Many things and opinions have been said about the possibility of a residency in Vegas, some I don't agree with, but that's all it is, nobody can really ruin my mood unless I allow it. Peace. (Saturday 10 January 2015; 0:05)

Marcus (49,080) by Dove from USA When people pick apart every single decision Mariah makes and focus only on the negatives in every single post, they are not fans, no matter how hard they try to convince everyone that they are. I'm not saying people need to be positive 100% of the time but some people never have anything good to say. Yes, they have the right to any opinion they choose, and they can keep being as negative as they want as much as they want, but every single time I'm going to counter with my opinion too. If you don't like it just don't read it, it ain't that deep. (Side note: when I mentioned "so-called fans" I was not writing about Amber, even though the post was directed at her.) (Friday 9 January 2015; 23:36)

Amber C / Taryn (49,079) by Abraham from USA Well if he blocked you, it was obviously for a reason. Taryn please, Mariah is only 44. You're not "old" until you can't walk anymore. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:53)

The hating game (49,078) by Marcus from Brazil Here we go again. Some people here can't stand the fact that others have different opinions. As soon as you don't agree with what they say or the mood they like the messageboard to be in, they start the name calling, "haters" and "so called fans" are preferred, others call to jump on the ban wagon of the hating game. The sense of entitlement of some people here is really out of this world. If you don't like a post, take a chill pin, and keep on being as positive as you want to be, but don't try to make people think or act like you, that would be boring as hell. It ain't that serious, it is a messageboard with people that evidently are going to have different opinions. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:49)

Amber C (49,077) by Dove from USA Of course you have the right to post your point of view but I also have the right to disagree. I'm not going to get into everything you wrote but for example: "I believe Mariah has only one more chance to 'slay'/have a musical 'moment' in the industry." This lack of belief in her is negative IMO. And "Mariah has little friends, and the people around her don't give a rats tail about her." How do you know how many friends she has or how they feel about her? The back up singers have been with her since her first album, she keeps hiring them back so they must have some sort of bond or relationship. Regarding your other post: We all work to make money. Sometimes we don't feel like it but we drag ourselves to work anyway because it's better than laying around feeling sorry for ourselves. If we like our jobs it's not as bad having to do it. I have a feeling Mariah likes her job a lot. Nobody is making her work and if she really didn't want to, she wouldn't. She's 44 years old with 25 years in the business. Everyone accuses her of being a diva so she's obviously not afraid to ask for what she wants. I highly doubt two or three nights a week for a couple of years is going to ruin her. I would just rather focus on what could go right. We don't know who she's going to hire or how it's going to be. TECS was obviously low budget but that doesn't automatically mean the Vegas show will be. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:42)

B (49,076) by Dove from USA Thank you. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:33)

Vegas (49,075) by NYHotShotta from USA Mariah sounded really good in Australia two years ago especially here. With this whole Vegas residency I think it could be detrimental to her voice as far as constantly doing shows. I think that should be her main focus if she does and she should hire a vocal coach to help her. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:24)

First Mariah album / Shelly (49,074) by Bill from the UK Out of interest, what was everybody's first Mariah album they heard? Mine was Music Box back in 1993. I had the cassette, and I remember listening to it on my Walkman in bed at night, and just loving the artwork and the excitement of seeing she had other albums I knew nothing of (there was an advertisement for her other albums in the sleeve). Until then I thought Dreamlover was her first song. Hi Shelly. Well I was doing a round the world trip, I was definitely in Australia during March as it was the "wet season" up North, and Las Vegas was my last stop, so it may have been in April. I can't recall if it was early, mid, or late though. I will find out and let you know. I remember being somewhat perplexed that Celine never sang Think Twice during her show. That, and Titanic, were the only songs of hers I knew, and Think Twice was #1 in the UK for weeks and weeks. Maybe it wasn't as popular elsewhere. (Friday 9 January 2015; 22:12)

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