Lightening pon de mood (49,631)
by Luke from United Kingdom
So I don't mean to divert from the lip-sync subject much but I just stumbled across this little gem. She should totally do something like this again, like another unplugged. No gimmicks. Just her voice and a small audience. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:35)
I just can't anymore (49,630)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
I've always been very hopeful of the voice bouncing back like it did during the beginning of the Mimi era and then again during the Merry Christmas II You era, but recently she's been slipping too far into the darkness with these bad performances. The Jamaica performance almost seemed intentional, like she gets something out of the bad press and people bashing her bad lip syncing. I really pray that whatever is causing this train wreck comes to a complete halt. Mariah is my favorite voice, artist, and (to be completely transparent right now) person on the planet. So these type of moments are always painful for me. I always want nothing, but the best for her. At this point all I want is for Mariah to have one more undeniably great completely live performance in a great national treasure esque way (ie social media buzz) then she can bow out gracefully and just focus on other things in life. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:25)
Fair game (49,629)
by Gilbert from USA
I think it's okay to have a disagreement or concern about attending the Las Vegas shows. It's not fair to fans who work hard and purchase tickets to see her show and possibly receive a half ass performance. I haven't had any problems with concerts I've gone to in the past. The only thing I can think of is these are possibly stunts (which aren't improving her status, it just makes it seem like she is going down hill). I'm still looking forward to going to see her on 5/13 but I really hope my experience remains the same as it's always been. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:23)
How do you solve a problem like Mariah? (49,628)
by Paul from Usa
Mariah. You'll ABMB, but you need some guidance and direction. I saw her this Christmas at one of the AIWFCIY concerts, and she renewed my love for her with her performance. She came out on stage (just after her lousy Rockefeller Center tree lighting stint) and proved everyone wrong. That she could sing, perform and the voice was still there. These lazy lip syncing appearances are hard to watch. It almost seems she doesn't know what to do on stage. What I don't understand about Mariah is why she doesn't put her older songs to rest, and start writing songs that cater to her new voice. Madonna has evolved. Infact she hates singing her older songs. Do you think Mariah watches her appearances? And critiques herself? I don't think she does. I also think she reins all the power in her career and it's clear she needs a helping hand. Poor Mariah. I want what's best for her. I want her to have a healthy and happy life and career. Perhaps she should take a break and concentrate on spending time with her children. Enjoy life. Take a long vacation. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:48)
Who cares? (49,627)
by B from USA
I don't and I'm so sick of these same complaints every single time she opens her mouth. Her performance at Jamaica Jazz isn't going to stop me from going to Las Vegas to see her. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:47)
Why do we play this game? / everybody loves Mariah (49,626)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Not everybody loves Mariah, shocking I know. Some people actually even hate her with a passion. So it's not like you're alone when you bash her. Isn't that the very point you're making anyway, that no one enjoys her as an artist anymore and you're just keeping it real? Tommy Mottola claims he's Mariah's biggest fan. I'm sure he's crazy enough to still believe it because, for all intents and purposes, at one point he was her #1 champion. And yet we all know how methodically he went about trying to destroy Mariah, to the point where even Sony had to let him go once he personally bullied one of their top selling artists of all time to leave the company. Guess who else is always so adamant about his love for Mariah? Nick Cannon, that's who. You'd never know he cheated on her, deliberately embarrassed her in the media or favorites anti-Mariah tweets. So, saying you're a fan of Mariah Carey since 1901 means nothing. MC is always treating her fans like gold, never takes them for granted or forgets to thank and give back to her lambs. She's always doing things to show appreciation for her fans. Do you think she did the Jazz and Blues Festival to line her pockets? No, that was for her Jamaican fans that have never seen her in concert. What have you done for her lately? This resting on your laurels bullshit has got to go. Shout out to Nick and Tommy's proxies. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:45)
Looking In (49,625)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
"You look at me and see the girl Who lives inside the golden world But don't believe That's all there is to see You'll never know the real me
She smiles through a thousand tears And harbors adolescent fears She dreams of all That she can never be She wades in insecurity, yeah And hides herself inside of me
Don't say, "She takes it all for granted" I'm well aware of all I have Don't think that I am disenchanted Please understand
It seems as though I've always been Somebody outside looking in Well, here I am for all of them to bleed But they can't take my heart from me And they can't bring me to my knees They'll never know the real me"
Mariah Carey - Looking In (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:38)
Vegas suggestions (49,624)
by Dove from USA
I still think Vegas is a good idea. I would rather she be busy, working, and around people a few times a week, over being home alone thinking too much. Judging from those clips, she still has her voice. My suggestions: 1) Mariah, if you think you may have a problem, get help. There is no shame in being imperfect. There is a chance that people may find out, and it could be embarrassing for you, but ultimately it will humanize you and make people love you even more. It's worth the risk. 2) Let go of some control and let other talented professionals worry about things such as costumes, the set, etc 3) Focus on your voice, the music, and performing. Mix up the arrangements to make them come alive for you again. If you're bored, we will be too. I want to hear you singing the whole song and getting lost in it, not talking in the middle of the song, or having the audience sing a big part. I love to hear what you have to say but wait until before or after songs, when you talk mid song it snaps the listener out of the nostalgic zone they want to get lost in. 4) If you're going to lip sync some songs, practice lip synching and record a new vocal track with your current voice. We recognize how your voice sounded during different eras and it takes away some of the magic. Or better yet, change the arrangements to where it feels comfortable to you and sing your songs live. All these things I'm saying are in love because I believe in you and I want to see succeeding and on top again. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:37)
Mariah's lip-sync rama continues (49,623)
by ADAM from USA
TMZ is receiving a lot of traction with the latest Mariah story in Jamaica. I hope this exposure gains more coverage not because I'm a hater but because it inspires change in people. Change in what the audience expects from singers when put up hard earned money to see someone "sing" to change (hopefully) in Mariah to sing in her "real" voice and stop with the long-time sham of "ear-piece" drama. While we may never know the real reason why Mariah is lying to the public, we can certainly change the way we "accept" what is right vs wrong. The world will be watching what happens in Las Vegas and I unfortunetly am happy I did not buy tickets to see her perform there. I saw her at Beacon and thought she was wonderful, however seeing the last few performances these past few months have me concerned that what I saw at Beacon was a mirage. I love Mariah's music but I will no longer blindly support anything she does. I work very hard for my money and I don't think it's right to take it away from me to put on a sham of a show. I knew Mariah as a singer and not some one-trick of a singer I used to know that pretends to sing-along. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:19)
A thank you to all the fans on MCArchives (49,622)
by ADAM from USA
I'd like to say it's been an exciting last few days on this board with the nice diversity of opinions between fans about MC's performances as of late. While we may not all see eye to eye on everything (which is fine and encouraged), I enjoy the healthy debate about how we feel about a variety of topics concerning MC. The feedback on this board has been great because at times I've shifted my opinion on topics such as, as fans do we we have to right to have high expectations of MC, to is it fraudulent and acceptable to support MC if she lip syncs for shows when she's a singer by trade, all the way to, do we as fans have support inferior music by Mariah if we don't think its worthy (but support it in name because we follow her)? These topics are interesting to me and I think that just because we are all admirers of MC we should not be one-dimensional and blind to any fallacies or injustices that may arise on the part of MC when she falters. In conclusion, I'm happy this board exists as a platform for fans to express the love and frustrations about the great Mariah Carey. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:07)
Ear piece (49,621)
by Gilbert from USA
When I was younger, I don't remember her ever using an ear piece. Does anyone remember how the ear piece even came about? (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:06)
I'm lamb and I'm proud (49,620)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
It's funny how anyone is allowed to post slanderous things about Mariah under the guise of fandom but random artists get defended without ever being attacked. Don't get me wrong, defending people you love is never wrong. So I don't really mind it, it's just a daily irony on this particular site. But it's all good because I'll be here to rub it in when Mariah shines, which let's be honest, is a guarantee at this point. I'll be quoting all your ill wishes right back to you when the time comes. No one could pay me to relinquish the pleasure of watching you dig your own graves. I hope you're smart enough to have several "outlets" to express your toxicity. Jessie, it's the thought that counts, us real lambs have already made it a point to see all the available clips from Jamaica. It's very arbitrary whose videos get posted or even linked. I suggest you share those videos on Twitter, FB, etc. where they will be appreciated. Hashtag #Lambily #L4L. Shootout to Travon. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:06)
Does Mariah have a bruise and black eye? (49,619)
by Lee Smith from UK
If you look at the article on this site entitled "Mariah Carey shows her cleavage in revealing dress" and look at the second image and zoom in it appears she has a bruise under her lip that they have tried to cover with make up. Underneath her right eye is also swollen. This is very strange. Did anybody else notice that? (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:28)
Earpiece problems (49,618)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
As a fan since 1995, I do observed that since 2005 Mariah keeps on having earpiece problem during her live performance. I list down all those live performances where she's having those earpiece drama. 1. American Music Awards 2005 2. Good Morning America 2008 3. Live in Morocco 2012 4. Live in Australia 2013 5. Good Morning America 2013 6. Live at Rockefeller Center 2014 7. Live at Beacon Theatre 2014 8. Live in Jamaica 2015 Mariah and her team needs to look at this earpiece problem as serious and damaging. I still hope her Vegas stint would be free from all this earpiece drama. (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:27)
Telling the truth is not hating (49,617)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
As a fan since 1990 I truly love MC and truly care and want the best for her. Just because someone notices the negative things and points them out does not make them a hater. We are worried about Mimi and are concerned. I will always be a fan. I just think if she needs help she needs to get it. She needs support and maybe even tough love to straighten this thing out. She needs someone that she looks up to and respects to show her what is happening here. I resent the comment that someone made who said there are only 3 real MC fans here. Not true. I am a fan, I truly love her and want the best for her. That will never change. (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:17)
Disgusted (49,616)
by Reverie from Earth
I've been visiting these boards for many years but have never posted untill now as I mainly came for the articles. But I just had to say how digsusted and disturbed I am by all these hateful and angry comments about Mariah. Who the hell do you think you are to suggest she has mental issues and that she should retire? You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, it's disgraceful. (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:05)
Documentary (49,615)
by Elena from The Netherlands
What is missing in MC's career right now is a real connection with her fans. Something like a documentary is crucial to communicate with us indirectly. This could be a making of her album or a behind the scenes from the tour. She used to do this in her Sony days and it does her image well. It makes her more human rather than the untouchable diva. She doesn't necessarily need to adress personal issues, but like technical difficulties; they happen all the time. We get the amateur videos and have our judgements ready. If only she would talk about them more openly there wouldn't be such a problem. I'm not so fond of the idea that she'll do so many dates in Vegas right now. Her voice needs rest. She needs to have her passion back instead of to just be in it for the money or to stay relevant. A long break (which is un-Mariah like) would do her good and she can focus on writing and experiment with producers. That's where she feels at home. But overusing your already fragile voice in a concert series? No. (Monday 2 February 2015; 14:24)
Jamaica and homophobia / Adam (49,614)
by Andrew from UK
Adam's criticism of Mariah performing in Jamaica due to their record on gay rights and violent homophobia is noteworthy. I've been there, it's really serious. Yet only a handful of democracies have recently woken up to gay equality. Should artists like MC (who do spend millions given to them by millions of gay people) not go perform in countries like this? Wouldn't it just restrict them to a handful of countries? The US was quite poor on gay legislation 20 years ago; should Mariah have not performed there until it was enacted? Well, the obvious and reasonable response is that in this day and age, no, she should not perform in countries like this. If a state was antisemitic she would not perform. If SA still had Apartheid she would not perform there. Homophobia is disgusting. Jamaica is a hotbed of state-sponsored violent bigotry. There are lines that she needs to draw in the sand with "principle" on one side and "money" on the other. Though after that performance, maybe it was a punishment. (Monday 2 February 2015; 13:48)
You don't like this, and you know it (49,613)
by Andrew from UK
Whilst I'm glad that people are starting to be honest about what's going on with Mariah, because I just can't stand make-believe and don't think it's at all productive, I have to ask: where were you for the past two years? All I've been reading/hearing is people engineering desperate excuses, blaming everything and everyone else but Mariah and refusing to acknowledge her mental and vocal problems, pathetically using the word "haters" and castigating anyone who won't live in the daydream. This has been years in the making, yet when I said it was going to get much worse and she should seek help or retire I don't recall one person accepting it. When I said it was a rip-off, same thing. When I said it would ruin her icon status, same thing. Excuses. And to the guy who complained about the earpiece trick, spot on. It's pathetic. And the glove? Oh, the bloody glove. She got sympathy for the injury but she just doesn't wanna let the pity go. I think her problems go way past the voice now. (Monday 2 February 2015; 13:15)
Missing YouTube link attached (49,612)
by Jesse from Australia
Trying again and hoping the link works this time. Please check this, people. Mariah still got it. [Webmaster: I removed the YouTube link, because it was already posted. There's no need to post the same link twice.] (Monday 2 February 2015; 11:27)
Decline, fail, comeback (49,611)
by Gilles from Malta
My opinion about it. It is a marketing strategy. Mariah is popular to be strong whatever happens to her and that's why we love her. In order to make a huge comeback like The Emancipation Of Mimi she needs to fail. I know it is a bit weird for fans but here is how the industry and the machine works. This is how to use bad things and turn them into very good things. And it makes a lot of money. For media, gossip, the company, for her etc. Even bashing is a part of business because they know everything and that's how it works. But soon everybody will be satisfied. People who were bashing are going to say wow and people who support her are going to be proud. Be patient. (Monday 2 February 2015; 11:05)
Jamaican Observer needs a Q-Tip (49,610)
by Orkun from The Netherlands
Well, I have an answer to the fan who asked if he and the "Observer columnist" actually have watched the same show. Hell no. According to his article, Mariah was at her best and gave her fans songs what they were craving. Like "Give It To Me" and "Don't Let Go". Hmmm. Wait. We know the songs on her albums. We know the B-sides. Is there a C-side we missed all these years? Hey Observer columnist: You should listen to songs like "You've Got Me Feeling", "And You Cast Your Fears Aside", "Oh When You Walk By Every Night". Awesome songs. I can't wait to hear your observations on those. Assuming your earpiece is working of course. Sigh. (Monday 2 February 2015; 9:47)
Mariah still delivers (49,609)
by Jesse from Australia
Check this out, folks, for some best live vocals at the Jazz and Blue Festival. (Monday 2 February 2015; 8:18)
Here we go again with bashing (49,608)
by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
I actually enjoyed Mariah Carey's performance. It was not perfect but she was there and she gave effort. Yes she did lip one song. One song people. Yes this is becoming normal for her to lip. Do I believe her lipping and being a diva has caused her to hit glitter 2.0? No I do not. I trust Mariah despite the dramatic, unappeased, fake (perfect), ungrateful, dreaded (stuck in 90s folk), disinterested, and bipolar fans that post here. You all, except for those devoted understanding fans (Shelly, Abraham, Baby), are extremely annoying to think her perfection is your right and that you are entitled to know what she needs. Maybe so if she wasn't accomplished. Last time I checked she could just say: I have been giving people what they want, taken blame for over 25 years and I think it's time to retire. [...] with unrealistic expectations would love to see that happen. I will not impose my opinions on her or bash her on a social website that haters can see. I appreciate her putting music out that I enjoy and I love her extensive back fatalities. (Monday 2 February 2015; 7:53)
Oh Mariah (49,607)
by Badr from USA
I'm starting to think we are seeing Mariah's spectacular career decline. She keeps doing these performances that are seriously damaging her reputation as one of the finest singers in the world, not to mention the AI debacle. She could've taken some time off after the disappointing results she got with MIAM. Having said that, I don't think the Vegas residency is a feasible idea for two reasons. She clearly needs time to prepare her voice, and she might not be popular enough to validate so many consecutive shows. In that sense, I don't see why a new edition of #1's is necessary. Her last studio album didn't attract people, why would "another" compilation? Do people really care she scored 18 #1's? The partnership with L.A. Reid produced some of her best and most popular work today (TEOM), but let's not forget he was also behind the wheel during E=MC2 and MOAIA. With E=MC2, they dropped the ball with the single choices, whereas MOAIA is her weakest album so far. I'm not hating, simply stating the facts. (Monday 2 February 2015; 7:53)
