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Nate Boyz II Men (49,837) by NYHotShotta from USA I don't understand how some of you view Nathan's advice as "shady" or "slanderous" when he tastefully told the truth. He isn't messing up her Vegas show because no matter what condition her voice is in, some people don't care, they're still gonna attend. I think he is right, she needs to get back to the Mariah that used to record her demos in that make shift studio. The Mariah who practically begged her mother to give her vocal lessons. She should use these string of bad performances as inspiration to make her Vegas residency 10 times better than anything she's done recently. (Friday 6 February 2015; 20:52)

Nathan (49,836) by Otti from Belgium Today I saw on E. a little interview with Kevin Costner about the sudden death of the late Withney Houston, and he said things like, I was her bodyguard in the movie, I hold her hand, I had acces to her, and he continued to say that after The Bodyguard, he followed her traject on a distance. But he did not reach out to help her. What brings us to Nathan of Boyz II Men. I think he wants to help Mariah. He chooses this way, because I guess they are not in touch. Being a celeberty is not easy. They trust no one, have no inner peace, takes drugs, insecurities. I am sure if he had contact with her, he would not go in public. In the end, I think there's nothing wrong with his message on Facebook, although not worser than Mariah's latest performances. You can't compare Nathan with what Kelly Price said about MC. (Friday 6 February 2015; 20:50)

The delusion keeps on coming (49,835) by Marcus from Brazil When Mariah was being heavily vituperated for her Tree Lighting Christmas performance, for the delusional lambs it was ok that some celebrities publicly defended her, nobody complained stating they should've told her those positive things privately. Now Nathan gives an excellent constructive criticism to Mariah in the same way, publicly, and the delusional ones would've preferred for him to have called Mariah because he's messing with her by stating so in public. So, tell her the good things in public, and tell her the ones the delusional fans don't want to hear privately. Nathan has done what many of her colleagues, and real friends should be doing, being straight forward to Mariah in hopes that she listens. He is not messing up with her Vegas gig, he might actually be helping to save it. Since when does constructive criticism is considered to be a diss? Nathan is in a way voicing to her what we want her to be aware of. And no, the fact they might have sung a duet together doesn't mean these celebrities keep in touch with each other or have their latest cellphones and private phones to communicate with them at will, it is ridiculous. (Friday 6 February 2015; 19:29)

Nathan Morris (49,834) by Alex from United States I'm sorry but am I the only one who finds it highly unclassy for Nathan to post his criticism on social media? I wouldn't want my friends addressing me and my issues through social media. I do understand that we all care about Mariah and want her to be the best she can be but there is a fine line if you consider yourself a friend. How about pick up the phone and call her if you're a truly concerned friend. Negativity is negativity no matter how you cut it. Mariah hears us and she doesn't need fake D list celebs using her name to garner attention. (Friday 6 February 2015; 19:26)

Nate Morris on Mariah's voice (49,833) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Well atleast he was straight forward in his address to Mariah instead of just being messy and rude like Kelly Price. Nate's message was actually in good taste and respectable though I still cringe that it has come to Mariah's vocals/recent performances being publicly scrutinized by her musical peers. I understand that it's a hot topic so many will be asked their opinions. I just wonder how many of these people will actually reach out and try to help her though. It's real easy to point fingers and jump on the hot topic bandwagon, but the ones I'll really respect are the ones who actually help. Any who I still believe in Mariah, she's still an incredible artist and has a voice, hell the real tea is that even when she sounds halfway decent she slays many. Hopefully she'll come back swinging harder than ever and proves to the world what all of us that are still holding on are hoping for. (Friday 6 February 2015; 18:55)

Ty / Nathan Morris (49,832) by Marcus from Brazil Ty, how is Nathan being shady towards Mariah? Actually those are the types of friends that Mariah needs. He wasn't being disrespectful, he was giving her an honest opinion based on his experience. I bet Trey Lorenz would never tell her anything like that. Mariah has an instrument that is getting rusty and it needs oiling so it could perform consistently. I really appreciate his input in all this. (Friday 6 February 2015; 18:45)

Color Me Beautiful / MAC (49,831) by Dove from USA When I was in 6th or 7th grade, I bought a book from the 80's called Color Me Beautiful at a garage sale. It was dated, even by the time I got it, but still had valuable advice that I've used ever since to help me choose flattering clothes for myself. The book is about how certain colors make us look our best. I'm not sure what season Mariah is, her golden tan tricks me into thinking she's an autumn, like Beyonce, but I think she's actually a winter because she looks best in cool winter colors: blue/red, pinks, white, blues, black, etc. I liked the idea that MimiL suggested in post (49,760) about teaming up with MAC to develop her own make up line, with colors created to be flattering to her. They could have Gwen Stefani do another type of winter, Beyonce do an autumn, and other models or celebrities do spring and summer. When I was in high school I used to look through magazines and find a model with my coloring and copy their make up. This way consumers could find the celebrity with their coloring and buy from their line. I don't wear make up every day but when I do, it's MAC. MimiL, I've also always wondered why Mariah has never been on the cover of Vogue. (Friday 6 February 2015; 18:19)

Baby from Sweden (49,830) by JAXGH from United States What kind of insider knowledge do you need? Lmao. It's out. You don't need "access" or "insiders". You just need to have really good ears. It's been out. It's not a secret. Slander and defamation? For what? For being honest? He's not the only who knows it. Even if he gets sued, he will definitely win. Trey, Kelly, Walter, her music director, her pianist, her audio engineer, her band, her team, her back up singers know it. They all know it. Even a non fan knows Mariah's tricks and lip syncing. He didn't ruin her "reputation". Mariah ruined it herself. Nate knows how Mariah works, he's written, collaborated, sang with her. Hell he had even lip synced with her. He knows her personally and frankly he's a fan. And all fans know Mariah's lip syncing ways. He's not sabotaging nor ridiculing her. Nate addressed the issue because of Mariah being caught. Nate was direct and honest. He didn't say one mean word to Mariah, he actually helped her by giving a genuine advice which I'm sure he's done before for all the gimmick to stop. Sadly it has to come to the point where Mariah's lies are exposed and the whole world has to know. Nate is helping Mariah before she completely ruins her credibility as a live performer. Their shows aren't even on the same dates so this is not a "competition" issue but simply a friend caring and wanting a friend to stop her bad habits. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:36)

Nathan (49,829) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I applaud his courage, because he risked losing his friendship with MC (she might not speak to him) and the wrath of lambs around the world. He risked being bombarded on social media by the fans. Yet he decided to speak up. Someone needed to. I don't know if Mariah reads our messages, we are basically unknown faces. But I think there is a chance Nathan's message may reach MC. Thing is if she takes this as a wake up call and turns her life around, she'll be the gainer. If she takes this as negativity and turns her back on him, only she'll be the loser. I do not take this as a sabotage attempt. Not in the least. Yes, like Shelly said, maybe he could have talked to her in private but I guess for some reason he thought this was the way he wants to go about it. For months now MC has been systematically tarnishing her own legacy. Why she is doing it is beyond me. But I hate to see her like this. I am glad that most people on this board agree with Nathan on this, instead of badmouthing him. Because honestly, there is no more time left to coddle Mariah anymore and expect she'll change her ways, it's time for some straight up conversation and Mariah has to confront her mistakes. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:23)

Glitter (49,828) by Jon from Netherlands She recognised she regreted it for the longest time on the Breakfast Club last year. I always loved it. (Friday 6 February 2015; 17:16)

Lambs of Asia To The World press image (49,827) by Warrior Butterfly from USA I saw the "Lambs of Asia To The World - press image". Frankly Mariah already had an album called #1's in 1998, so a different title like "More #1's" let's keep moving forward exclude anything after Butterfly, make it a truly update a continuation. I re-conceptualized the sequence 50/50 half new #1's and half new stuff. 1. Touch My Body 2. Don't Forget About Us 3. We Belong Together 4. Heartbraker 5. Thank God I Found You Bonus 6. Hope Street 7. Don't Try So Hard 8. Climb It (To The Top) 9. Save The Day 10. Vision of Love Just to show where is all began, maybe the original demo version or re-recorded. Yes with only five tracks it looks more like an EP however with the bonuses it would fresh out to a complete standard ten track album. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:51)

Raphael (49,826) by Marissa from USA Hey Raphael, I was having the same problem. The person who posted it deleted their YouTube account and I haven't been able to find it ever since. I hope someone reposts it soon. That interview gave me life. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:33)

Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men) comments / Will from England (49,825) by ADAM from USA I applaud his honesty and bravery to speak up about her downfall in these these times of need. I can't stand when celebrities die, how everyone comes out the woodworks including stylists, musicians and collaborators and proceed to spill the beans about how they knew there was a problem and never spoke out. He decided to buck the trend and speak out now and offer his feedback. For a long time now, Mariah has lost a great deal of inspiration for creating meaningful music and has not worked at preserving her voice. She has lost a spark and drive in her that's been difficult to watch for many many years. I hope his message finds a way to her and sparks a change. I also agree with Will's comments. Mariah is bullish and has a long history of refusing help. I believe she has a drinking problem that's more than celebratory and the only way she'll change change her pattern of behavior is to hit rock bottom and have another breakdown (Glitter). I don't believe she's hit that low point yet where she's needs to be hospitalized unfortunately to realize she has a problem. The problem with money and fame, is that it provides a bigger cushion for people to pad their problems and not see the truth from fiction in their minds. MC has too many enablers and one-sided mirrors to get help right now. Such a shame to see a talent like hers diminish and become ridiculed. (Friday 6 February 2015; 16:25)

Nathan Morris (49,824) by Dove from USA It's hard to be the bearer of bad news. It's easy for posters on the internet to post whatever because we're anonymous. He actually put his face and name out there and risked the wrath of the lambs. Regardless of everything, everybody still loves Mariah Carey. I'm sure he knew what was coming when he posted it. I think it's brave. He is not exposing anything to the world that we don't already know. He isn't mocking her or trying to humiliate her, TMZ style. He was direct but kind. To me it seems like he's trying to wake her up and help her, because he knows what she can be, and she's so close to being that again. It's hard to be that friend, especially if you like and respect the person. I do wonder why he didn't reach out to her privately, but maybe it wouldn't have had as much of an impact. Thank you Nathan, for trying to wake up our girl. We love you Mariah, and still believe in you. Side note: We don't know what's going on. Shania Twain said on Oprah that she wasn't able to sing after her divorce. If the problem can be addressed, it should be. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:45)

Will / Glitter (49,823) by Dove from USA Will (49,816) I think she has said Glitter was a mistake. She also said she's grown to accept it with time as it has become a cult classic. I can't find the clip now. Personally, I'm glad Glitter exists. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:38)

Interview (49,822) by Raphael from Brazil Hey lambs I need help: I cant find that Wendy interview from Charmbracelet era on YouTube. I remember that interview was like one hour and a half. (Friday 6 February 2015; 15:17)

"Sabotage" (49,821) by G.G. from USA Nobody is sabotaging Mariah, other than Mariah herself. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:40)

Mariah's voice vs. everyone elses (49,820) by B from USA Mariah's voice is fragile. I do agree that she needs to excerise her voice more often and maybe start seeing a vocal coach. I'm still going to Vegas to see Mariah. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:23)

So you went to Mimi on your contacts and pressed delete? (49,819) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End It's one thing when random people off the street have an opinion on Mariah's singing and all the unsolicited, presumptuous advice that go along with that. It's another when someone who claims to be a fan either wants her to undergo surgery and risk losing her voice like Julie Andrews did. Or the ones who spread malicious rumours of addiction to substances as the culprit to any hiccups Mariah has, privately or publicly. Then you have the ones who want her to retire all together. Which category Nate falls into is debatable but like 99% of all the people who comment on Mariah Carey, Nate actually has/had access to her, and until this very moment I assumed they were more friends than just former collaborators. Why would he try and sabotage her Vegas gigs like this? It's actually very slanderous because he's giving the public the impression that he has insider knowledge when he obviously doesn't. Someone with access to Mariah doesn't make thiat kind of underhanded statement that is designed to make fans hesitate on going to Mariah's #1's show. This is not just someone having an opinion, this is a competitor attacking Mariah Carey The Corporation. I don't even understand how anyone can deny that there is an obvious agenda in the industry to dethrone Mariah. Boyz II Men and Mariah have the longest running #1 song in Billboard history and now any possible live duets of One Sweet Day etc. are in jeopardy? Thanks a lot Nate, OAN Mariah, you need to sue for slander and defamation. (Friday 6 February 2015; 14:11)

Boyz II Men (49,818) by G.G. from USA They had plenty of hits without Mariah. Everyone is "offended" by the truth when they should be offended by Mariah's disrespect towards her loyal fans by giving one crappy performance after another. Deflecting and misplaced anger isn't going to fix the real problems. (Friday 6 February 2015; 13:42)

Nathan Morris (49,817) by JAXGH from United States I can't even believe some fans have the urge to disagree with Nathan. "Real" friends tell it how it is. "Real" friends don't play games. "Real" friends will not say what you want to hear, rather tell you what you need to work on. "Real" friends will go there just to help you and wake you up. "Real" friends will keep it real. And that's exactly what he did. I applaud him for that. He's probably the only artist in the industry that really took the time to keep it real for Mariah, just so she gets out of this horrendous habit. Thank you Nathan. As a musician himself and of course, he's closer to Mariah than any of us. This is really amazing to read. Everyone tweet the link to Mariah. She needs to read it. Mariah knows his credibility, after all it might just be the only thing that can help save her. (Friday 6 February 2015; 13:19)

Nathan Morris (49,816) by Will from England I 100% agree with what he said. Mariah has to choose to be Mariah Carey again. It's up to her on whether or not she can bring it all back together, and show the world how wrong they are about her. Mariah saved my life with her music, and all I want for her is to rise up again and fight back. But we must also remember that she would have to first admit that something is wrong. The last time that happened, it was during Glitter. And for her to openly say that something is wrong, I'd imagine that is something very difficult for her to do. I don't think she has ever once said "Ok, that was a mistake" except for marrying Tommy. She has (reluctantly) said that Sony did right when they focused the public's attention on her voice, and not her image. Even with Glitter, she didn't say outright it was a mistake to do (I don't think). She is a very strong, independent woman who has a history of disliking of being told what to do, and what not to do regardless of whether it benefits her. She didn't want to put LTT on her first album. Hell, she didn't even want to record new songs for TEOM (ILT and WBT) and look at the result when she did. But she gave in because she was so young at the time and it was her first album. Now though, she's in her 40s, had a successful career with all the awards to boot, I think it will be very difficult for her to hear. This isn't a diva thing, it's a human with insecurities thing. (Friday 6 February 2015; 12:56)

Boyz II Men (49,815) by Ty from USA Wow, they forget that Mariah gave them the biggest hit of their career and they are still eating from the sales. Real friends don't put grown folk business in the street. Nathan you queen, shady shady shady. (Friday 6 February 2015; 12:51)

Boyz II Men (49,814) by G.G. from USA That was spot on. Until Mariah faces the 100% truth she will continue to give bad performances. Things cannot get better or change until we face the sometimes ugly truth. Hopefully Mariah will see his comments and they will be a catalyst for a phenomenal change. If not, Vegas is going to be a mess. (Friday 6 February 2015; 10:47)

Nathan Morris (Boyz II Men) comments on bad performance (49,813) by Martyn from England, UK Has anybody seen that Nathan Morris has addressed Mariah's poor vocal on his Facebook page? Very brave of him to be so honest. I wonder what Mariah would think if she saw it? He said the following: We as artists should never lose sight or take for granted our gift. The older we get the harder it gets to maintain it, it just doesn't come as easy anymore. But maintaining it can be done. Many artist have done it for years. Usually the more you work-out the stronger your body gets. The more we read the better we get at reading. Exercising and maintaining the quality of your voice is no different. We all have (as artists) had bad performances in our careers that's normal, no one is perfect. And some may have even stuck in a backing vocal or two on those bad vocal days. But when performances like this happen on a consistent basis they are no longer considered mistakes or accidents, they are now habits. We as artists at some point must take the blame when we put ourselves in uncompromising positions such as this. I feel bad for her because I know what she can be, but she has to want to be that again. Being relevant just doesn't do it. I'm sure one of our teachers at some point in our lives told us that if we continue to cheat we would get caught. I know she is coming to Vegas for a residency soon and I pray all goes well for her. Trust me, Vegas is no cake walk. (Friday 6 February 2015; 8:31)

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