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MC and Walt. A (47,752) by Mike Dawson from USA From Mr. Showbiz August 30, 1997, "Mariah Carey in street fight with producer". New York City pedestrians were witness to an abominable and disheartening scene Saturday as pop star Mariah Carey engaged in a rabid screaming match with her longtime producer, Walter Afanasieff. A source told the New York Daily News that the miniskirted diva cursed loudly at Afanasieff before finally putting an end to the fight by firing him. The reputed reason for the fight was Afanasieff's new gal pal, Samantha Cole, who is making her first record under superproducer David Foster. "I don't understand how someone of Mariah's stature could be envious of someone just coming up," Cole's record-company representative told the paper. Carey's spokesperson, Leslee Dart, denies that Afanasieff was fired, and says that their dispute erupted over creative differences. "He got mad and she got mad," Dart says. "She didn't want the album to sound overproduced. She was protecting what she felt was her creative position on the album." She should have been protecting her voice. We hear that she can curse you out in seven octaves. That's murder on the vocal chords, dear. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 9:52)

My take on the lip-synching issue (47,751) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Yeah, Mariah does lip a few parts here and there. And to me, yeah, even for one of the best vocalists of all time, that's acceptable in reasonable amounts. I hate to bring the age thing again, but singing naturally does get more challenging as you grow older, even more so when you get past 40. For most everyone, singing over 15 songs within 2 hours, even with breaks, exhausts their vocal cords. How much more if those songs are vocally strenuous in nature like Mariah's. Add to that a hectic schedule of having to perform pretty much every other day in different countries. In these circumstances, can we blame her for trying to preserve her voice? And anyone who argues that Mimi should be able to hack it if other people her age can do it can please just take several rows of seats because such thing as personal differences exists. Mariah's voice is very sensitive and has only increasingly become so through the years. I believe the reason why she chooses to lip certain parts that she can definitely hit while singing other more difficult parts is less about laziness or insecurity and more about her just saving her voice for the big finish. Of course she could just sing those parts she lips sans the extra embellishments and intensity (which I personally do when I sing difficult songs), but she's probably just avoiding the exertion of too much effort too early into a song. However, I also agree, though, that she needs to work on faking it more convincingly to avoid constant criticism. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 7:50)

Ty / post to Andrew (47,750) by Abraham from USA Lol, thanks for making me laugh. I completely agree. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 4:24)

The Elusive Chanteuse Tour Asian start (47,749) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Mariah hasn't toured the world as extensively as other artists, but the several times she did was enough for her to distinguish each fanbase by their special characteristics. Every fanbase is cool, but Asian fans have always been enduringly loyal in nature, and they always go out of their way to create special, expensive souvenirs to give the artists who visit their countries; and with Mariah especially, that's times ten. Maybe that's the reason why she chose the continent to be the first leg of her tour. She knows she hasn't toured in a while, and that it would take some time for her to warm up vocally and confidence-wise. She knew that the oriental fans' more-supportive-less-critical nature would cushion the backlash should she get off to a rocky start, which she did. Of course there's still been some negative press locally in Asia, but I feel the same issue would've been magnified 100x had she chosen to start in the US or UK and mess up there. I mean, if negative word still got out even while she was halfway around the globe, imagine how much devastating the uproar would've been if she disappointed at let's say, the Nokia Theatre. If theory is true, then it's quite a smart move for her to make. She'll be all ready when she decides to take on shows in the west or record her next album, like how the Charmbracelet Tour helped create TEOM. Brace yourselves lambs. I may be relying too much on history repeating itself here but I really feel something massive is in the horizon. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 3:55)

[...] (47,748) by Ty from USA Dear Andrew, your post are old, tired and boring, you are [...]. We have moved past not having videos and lipping. [...] (Sunday 2 November 2014; 3:13)

Beacon Christmas shows (47,747) by Ty from USA I'm sincerely hoping Mariah [...] sings [...] at Christmas time. This song is her truely heartbreaking moment. Any [...] in NYC want to get together before the show, let me know, let's have a festive lamb moment. To the lang going in on Mariah being addicted to lipping: you seriously need to get a life. [...] (Sunday 2 November 2014; 3:12)

Behind the scenes pictures / AIWFCIY (47,746) by Lee TS from USA How fun of Mariah to post the behind the scenes pictures on facebook, I always love seeing new pictures of her and dembabies. A fan favorite seems to be of her wearing jeans and showing off her booty. Isn't it amazing the less she tries and dresses down the more gorgeous she looks? Here's a link to a new cover of AIWFCIY produced by Walter performed by Adele Dazeem. Very cute. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 2:29)

Unexpected Back to the future part II (47,745) by Andrew from UK In saying what I just said: my friend just asked me what I was writing. It was just suggested that "I wish that you and I'd forgive each other" was akin to a plea from a "battered wife", if you will, to say "you win, you have the power, please just let me go". In fifteen years I never considered that. How strange a non-fan would show me that. I still think she's doing the totally wrong thing musically and creatively. But perhaps my irritation has led me to forget why it has happened. I'm not sure I have a point now lol except no re-release, no Thirsty video, no tour DVD with the same songs done. A new musical direction, live singing within reachable range, new image. And a new confidence. Shun the past. She's Mariah Carey. Own the planet. Make the planet sit up and say: good for her, she's older and she's doing something new. We can buy this. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 2:12)

Back to the future (47,744) by Andrew from UK I remember when Rainbow came out that the lyric "forgive each other" showed me that perhaps she regrets some things she did and I thought that the most brutally honest lyric she has written. I know this has gotten on to Mottola whereas I meant only to say it's unfair to criticise Afanasieff as he is defending his contribution which can't possibly only be scripting what she sang. It was more than that. But I think it's interesting to ponder if the Mottola control group and its payroll genuinely think of Mariah as someone who left the mafia-style protection and business and was the wrongdoer herself: does Afanasieff "genuinely" feel betrayed? Perhaps it's a morally unfair question but I think it interesting. It led, after all, to Mariah shunning other artists (peers) and becoming self-conscious and nervous. The comfort lipping mentioned in my earlier post stems from this. I wish she would let go, change direction, reinvent, and reconnect with other artists. And past collaborators? (Sunday 2 November 2014; 1:36)

Walter (47,743) by Lee TS from USA I checked out his website and he clearly still has a lot of love for Mariah. She's plastered everywhere on his page and he doesn't have to do that. He even included this sweet clip of him and MC working together. And a throwback to the radio interview he gave last year, he spoke so kindly of her. It reminds me of Marc Shaiman describing Mariah equals to music in human form. To me, Walter brings out the balladeer in Mariah even at times she would describe it as schmaltzy. Like Walter says, they had their moment in time. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 1:32)

Manny (47,742) by B from USA I remember that interview with Tabitha. She was so rude to Mariah. The rumors about Mariah disliking an artist Walter was working with was all a part of Tommy's smear campaign. They fell out because of creative differences and his continued loyalty to Tommy. He should have stayed loyal to Mariah since she decided she wanted to work exclusively with him after the Ben debacle. She's done just fine without him. Her music became less schmaltz after ending their professional relationship. He made comments that she was trying to be Mary J. Blidge which was and is untrue. She just wanted to make R&B music and incorporate Hip-hop into her music which she started doing the Daydream era. Which in my opinion made her even more popular and added depth to her music. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 1:13)

Walter (47,741) by Manny from U.S. I remember seeing this interview. They start talking of Walter at around 6:27. Tabitha asked Mariah about the rumors of her and Walter fighting. There were different rumors. I remember one was of Samantha Cole with whom Walter worked with and Mariah didn't like. At 9:10, Mariah says about "like when you tell a friend something and they blab it to the world". I remember that Walter said in some interview that the Honey video was an "FU" to Tommy. That's when I saw Walter was being more loyal to Tommy and Mariah was upset. (Sunday 2 November 2014; 0:32)

Walter (47,740) by B from USA Mariah only needs collaborators because she can't write music. Walter himself said she would sing the cords and melodies to him and he would play them and it was a back and forth thing. He was awarded his Grammy's because Tommy used all of his clout to reward him for ending his professional relationship with Mariah. During her time working with Walter, she wrote all of the lyrics to her songs by herself. She's right she shouldn't have had to give away 50% of the royalties to him because he wrote the music, melody, and cords she sang to him. Tommy's actions allowed Mariah to leave Sony even though she still owed them one more album. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 21:22)

Tommy and his henchmen (47,739) by B from USA Vanity Fair did an expose on Tommy that depicted him as a ruthless thug that used his mafia connections to take control of Columbia and Sony. The writer of the article described Mariah as a prisoner in their Bedford mansion which Mariah, herself, has described as Sing, Sing. Sing, Sing is a nod to the infamous prison and because that's all she was allowed to do there. His smear campaign against Mariah included using his mafia connections and Payola to keep DJ's from playing her music, spreading false and negative information to the tabloids, and having Murder Inc. create two songs for JLo. It was basically one song and its remix. The original version of I'm Real used the same Firecracker loop (sample) that Mariah used for the original version of Loverboy and the remix was a ripoff of If We which was a duet between Mariah and Ja Rule. This was confirmed by Irv Gotti himself. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 21:20)

Baby (47,738) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Yeah. I am 50/50 on your concept of Mariah working with people she has feuded with to promote her Christmas music or boost her reputation. It shows your thinking. However I don't see her working with easily 90% of the people you mentioned. Wendy is a hypocrite who has never had Mariah on her show. Mariah went to all the other talk shows but Wendy. I think Wendy is just bitter for that reason. As far as Walter, Tommy, and Nick definitely not. Maybe Walter. He seems open to work with her. We should remember, Mariah is in control of her career. Rightfully she's earned it but her relationship with these people have been altered. Usually clashes of egoes and music competiveness with Mariah usually winning is why. She wins because she very rarely walks past someone and turns back to see what they are thinking or saying. She never reads tabloids and she knows who to talk to and who not. She owns her reputation. She continues walking to the next destination without being bothered. It's like she is on a different playing field. I like it but people become envious of her reputation and untouched ego so I see what you mean Baby. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 20:21)

Kumbaya my board (47,736) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Mariah always says the creativity of the lambs is unparalleled. I would have to agree 100%. The only ones who come even close to rivalling us lambs, as of late, are The Walter & Tommy Fangurls feat. The Nickelodeons. According to them, we should treat Tommy and Walter more fairly than they themselves have historically treated Mariah. Uhm. With that kind of reasoning Mariah should also reach out to Samantha Cole, Katy Perry, Sandra Bernhardt, Eminem, Kelly Price, Madonna, Christina Aguilera, Ariana Grande, Cameron Diaz, JLo, Ja Rule and Irv Gotti and announce on Wendy Williams, that she wants all of them to be in a remake of AYNAF. Walter will of course produce the song(without Mariah, like he deserves), Nick will direct the (straight to video) short film and Tommy will release the single under his new label: SingSing Records. It's bound to be this years Christmas Hot 100 Stone-Groove-Smash-Hit-Wonder. Oh Lord. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 16:54)

Jamaica's Jazz & Blues Festival (47,735) by Dennis from Miami, FL Sounds perfect to me. I'm looking forward to hear Lullaby of Birdland, The Wind, Subtle Invitation, Vanishing. No wonder she agreed to participate. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 16:43)

Still I wish that you and I'd forgive "each other" (47,734) by Andrew from UK Tommy's sabotage is well-documented. The guy is a bit unpleasant to say the least. I just wonder how the "posse" see it? Do they believe Mariah betrayed them? Do they consider her ungrateful for what they believe they gave to her? I have thought it sometimes when she makes comments about being "forced into jean shorts in a field" etc. This stuff made her career appealing and stellar. Yet the business management of it is portrayed as evil, usw. Perhaps it would have been better to have just acknowledge their assistance and move on. I don't think she was probably entirely innocent. What happened after the Grammys in '96? The point is: yes, Walter omits a lot of Mariah's contribution to the compositions or rather portrays her as his assistant a lot. However I don't recall many times where Walter gets credit from Mariah. Nor anyone other than JD for that matter. So as in everything there's a flip side to the coin. N.b. this is observation and speculation, this is not a condemnation. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 16:15)

Walter A (47,733) by Darryle from USA Since some people are on the topic of Walter A and songwriting credits I guess I'll share this. If you look at the Daydream album booklet there is a certain part in the booklet that says who wrote what and for almost all of the songs it says Mariah wrote them herself. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 13:31)

MC interview (47,732) by Billy from Greece (Saturday 1 November 2014; 12:27)

MC Thailand (47,731) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Does anyone have a link to the video of the Car Ride Medley performed by MC in Thailand? (Saturday 1 November 2014; 10:02)

My all (47,730) by David F from Mexico I kindly think that "My all in Bangkok" was well sung, she wanted to make the end similar to the around the world video you know from the 90's tour, but she yet had to slow the voice to the minimum and she didn't she moved it up. I think her last break up plays in her head and believe me when you love somebody so much it's hard to let go, that part is no longer your support. We have to put ourselves together. It's hard so damn hard but the kids keep her going thank God. Because a good lover keeps all the memories but suddenly in order to let go that person we have to erase them until we hurt no more. Anyway Mariah is dealing with a lot seeing her music banned from radio, it's unbelievable because she made very good songs and what is happening? But she keeps on doing other things like these new Christmas shows and the very successful Asia tour, thank God for that. But a lot of fans are seeing what goes within the USA music industry. This woman has talent in her hands, brain, and voice and those are the blessings that she may be hated for. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 9:27)

Talking about Tommy (47,729) by Lee TS from USA You guys have to check out Wendy Williams Halloween hot topics episode. Yes she has been extremely shady with Mariah this season, but she went in Tommy and Mariah's relationship. It was hilarious watching her take of the situation. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 4:40)

NYC show (47,728) by Mara from United States My 6 year old daughter loves Mariah's twins and is hoping Roc and Roe make an appearance on stage for the Christmas shows if they are really happening. Lol. It's funny she is only 6 yet all she says is how cute Monroe is and what a cute voice Roc has. Lol. Like she is so much older than them. They are little celebrities in their own right and it must be such a special bonus for people at her shows that get to see these two miracles. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 4:28)

Adam and Michele (47,727) by Mara from United States I am in for the NYC Christmas show. I can't tell you how excited I am about this, especially if this is an annual thing. My birthday is Christmas Eve and always have a special ace for everything all Christmas. This would be the best birthday gift. I would love to introduce my daughter to a Mariah show this way too. We were going to go to a Radio City Christmas show and I was in the process of looking for tickets, but hey who better to get you in the Christmas mood than the absolute queen of Christmas herself? Forget that other show. Michele what part of PA are you from? I am near the Scranton area. (Saturday 1 November 2014; 4:21)

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