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We need someone to control us, don't be an [censored] (47,879) by nikki from usa Walter, I wish you'd control your mouth and move on already. Especially, after the recent article where you chastise Mariah for reinventing "Want" a couple of times over 20 years, for new generations and genres no less. Then, actually assume she's trying to surpass the original, but now you've reinvented the song? For real? Sour grapes indeed. Hypocrisy to boot. Lambs, do correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know there's only the R&B/hip-pop version with a cartoon video, and the Justin B. duet for the emerging EDM crowd. Both are targeting different audiences. It's a smart business move and refreshing to change things up once in a blue moon. I agree with Jay and Baby. Walter hasn't known Mariah for 17 years. Fool, please, if you cared you wouldn't trash her in public by acting like you know what's up with her. You couldn't control her and clearly she didn't need you to. Why is he still talking about her? Move on to Celine Dion. She does all the things you want Mariah to do. (Monday 10 November 2014; 0:12)

Re: Ken pic (47,878) by nikki from usa Yes. It's been awhile, but I remember that pic. That's Mariah, Josephine, and the other girl they lived with in her first apartment. Josephine is riding in the car with MC in the Emotions video, she went on to be a talk show host in her native Sweden. Once and awhile you can still see the two of them vacationing together. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 23:53)

Edward / Jenny (47,877) by Jesse from Australia Thank you, Edward and Jenny, for your reassurance. The clip should restore faith in some lambs who are skeptical of her ability to do it all "live" in with her voice in its current state. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 22:01)

Baby / Walter (47,876) by Edward from USA Baby, I didn't actually get that far in the interview the first time, but when I revisited it I was out of words. Neither Walter nor his co-hosts knew that "Emblazoned" was an actual word. No wonder why Mariah made that comment on Watch What Happens Live about "AIWFCIY". Walter is thirsty, but Mariah's not giving him anything to drink. I think it is time for him to move one, because I'm pretty sure Mariah won't work with him again, she doesn't need him. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 21:37)

Smearing (47,875) by Jay from USA Every time I post a message I mention how I think that there is a smear campaign against Mariah. Now, with this Walter A. interview, I am definitely convinced. What I don't understand is why someone is still hung up on Mariah like that. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 21:35)

Ken (47,873) by Brad Catoe from United States That picture made my year. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 18:55)

Baby (47,872) by Abraham from USA I hear what you're saying, but enough already. There's no need to keep bringing Walter up and bashing him. Leave the man alone and move on. As Mariah says, "There's an art of letting go." And that is exactly what you should do. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 17:26)

Yes I've seen it (47,871) by Nina from USA I have seen it, although I don't remember exactly when. I know it was during one of Mariah's numerous interviews. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 15:54)

Rare picture (47,870) by Ken from USA I've never seen this, has anyone else? (Sunday 9 November 2014; 13:34)

Hero climax (47,869) by Jenny from South Africa Considering that Mariah didn't hide her face at all when she sang the climax in Hero I would say she sang it 100% live. She's been singing better and better with each show so I don't think I'm being naive to think this ending was definitely live. I'll admit she struggled with One Sweet Day though. That wasn't easy to watch but she's been singing Hero and Emotions so well recently that I think we can cut her some slack on One Sweet Day. And it's so sweet that she's been giving Nathaniel such an opportunity. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 8:32)

Bring it on home (47,868) by Abraham from USA Wil Mariah ever release this beautiful, amazing song? She'd make me the happiest fan if she did. It's too good of a song to be wasted. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 6:17)

Ageism: reality or fantasy? (47,867) by nikki from usa A lot of people have the assumption that as an artist gets older they simply lose their appeal or people aren't interested. But, I've noticed this trend. After a newbie becomes big, they're generally promoted heavily for the next 5 years. After that, there's always the initial promotional push, but it's essentially up to the artist and the momentum of the past 5 years to carry them. As long as the music is good it does. But, over the course of the next 5 years they're simply not as heavily promoted. After that, it's up to the artist to figure it out. All of this breaks down to exposure which I think has more to do with the music selling than the artists' declining marketability. Right now, the music industry is eating itself. The biggest consumers of music are 45+ which Mariah's current album would appeal to, but it's the teens and 20 something's that listen to the radio and go to concerts. It's a slippery slope. If Mariah were to do an album of jazz, Motown, and blues inspired by 60's music and up it would sell millions if she sang it live on Oprah, Today, and had a special. Wouldn't that be ironic? I'd like to hear Mariah sing Black Velvet or Fever. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 6:03)

One Sweet Day (47,866) by nikki from usa In her earlier concerts her voice quality had an audible illness to it, but this is different. At this point her cold is gone, but her "struggles" during her belting sounds more like the "Kermit the Frog I just woke up sound" than the "I can't sing like I used to" vocal. I was concerned about her being overly ambitious with this tour by only giving herself 2-3 days in between shows. Two days isn't really "rest" when you're traveling continents and being a full time mom of two. I hope in the future Mariah regresses back to her '96 routine of 1 concert per week or every 5-6 days. Over the course of the past decade Mariah's had some "off" performances, but I think that has more to do with spreading herself too thin. Everyone always brings up back in the '90's, but back then Mariah didn't have to promote anywhere near the degree she has since the internet age took over. A voice change should be expected over 20 years, but I don't think the reality is nearly as bad as most think. This seems to be more of a maintenance issue. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 5:24)

Jesse / Hero (47,865) by Edward from USA Hi Jesse. You're not new to visiting MCArchives, but since that was your first post, I wanted to say welcome aboard. As for the "Hero" YouTube video you posted, I personally think that Mariah didn't lipsync any part of it, she was actually singing live. Whenever Mariah is about to lipsync to the difficult parts of her songs, she usually does one or a combination of the following: a) Spins around as if she were in a beauty pageant, b) Covers her face with her left arm making it seem as if she were feeling the spirit or waving to the audience, and c) Face the musicians giving her back to the audience momentarily. She doesn't do any of those things when she's confidently singing live. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 5:04)

Samesame.com.au review Melbourne Show (47,864) by LambfromOz from Australia Check out the review here. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 4:42)

Walter Afanasieff joins the cast of "Dead To Me" (47,863) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Walter is a douche sexist. He's illiterate to boot. According to him and his yes-men and radio-sycophants, Mariah makes up words like "emblazoned" in the lyrics she writes for her songs. I literally have no words. Who wants to bet he'd be singing to a different tune if Mariah was dumb or desperate enough to let him back in her life? You Wally fangurls need to retire your campaign because this man can only hurt Mariah. He is not pure of heart. All of his so called "tough-love" advise for Mariah is slanderous, belittling, patronizing and just evidences how much he has no respect for her as a full human being. Any shallow regard this idiot has for her is completely anchored in what she can do for him and probably has always been. He's a fairweather friend at best and that's being generous. This backstabber was a Tommy Mottola proxy and by the looks and sounds of it, he wants those days back. He is now as dead to me as dinosaur bones. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 4:39)

Walter (47,862) by Danny Cedar from uk I think Walter is a pratt. Sorry but he is. Sour grapes and clinging on to the past is all he is. Mariah has moved on and on so many times since Walter. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 1:17)

You'll find the way (47,861) by Jesse from Australia Hi. This is my first message here even though I've been more than a regular reader of the site since the Emancipation days. Kudos to Eric and fellow lambs for keeping a very good balance of all things in this Mariahism melting pot. Onto the message now, could anyone help enlighten me how the highly debated "lip-on-lip-off" climax is executed here. The texture and tone of the "the voice" during the climax sounds identical to all the other recent performances of the songs. I always thought she pre-recorded the climax, but my, looking this closely, I'm baffled. PS: English is not my first language, but I'm trying my best. Thank you. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 0:40)

Walter back with Pauly and Monks (47,860) by Lee TS from USA Remember the radio interview Walter gave last year? Here's a recent interview he did with the same radio DJ's. You can watch the open letter from the beginning and skip to 32:00 minute mark when Mariah is brought up. You can either hate it or love it but I'm sure some lambs will be upset. Walter is definitely upset about AIWFCIY, but what I didn't like was him bringing up the control issue. For me it harks back to the Tommy days and it's a weird situation. Mariah had mentioned she didn't experience fame and was sequestered away, etc. I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing because if she had, would she have gone down a Justin Bieber-Lindsay Lohan kind of path? Or even late MJ and Whitney. Not a fan of Tommy's because he clearly tries to destroy MC. But in some ways, I guess I'm trying to say is if she wasn't controlled would she have gone out of control? On another note, I was ecstatic to see MC perform One Sweet Day for the nostalgia but she really shouldn't. Seeing her attempt the vocals were a bit painful to watch. As much as I need my Mariah fixes, I want to see her take a break and shy away from the spotlight. Just to luxuriate and enjoy dembabies but always creating music. And then comeback with a pow. (Sunday 9 November 2014; 0:32)

Re: Randy (47,859) by Jono from USA I completely agree about Oh Santa. I admit I was one of the skeptics when MC announced she was releasing a second Christmas album. Why try to replicate the perfection of the first? Turns out I was foolish to doubt the queen of Yuletide lol. I think Oh Santa could have easily become a hit, but it's hard to touch the masterpiece that is AIWFCIY. Walter in a Billboard interview stated how difficult it is to make a Christmas classic, and what they created was an incredibly rare moment of magic. Mariah was just in the right place at the right time with the right music, voice, and collaborators to create a holiday staple. It really is the last classic to be added to the Christmas cannon. When it comes to Christmas, MC will forever be defined by that song (even though I think her rendition of O Holy Night is severely underrated and under appreciated by the general public) so it's hard for her to top that. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 22:15)

Betcha Gon' Know / It's a wrap (47,857) by Darryle from USA As Mariah said many times this album is a journey from where she last off. If you think about those two songs being the last on the album, I think she's trying to tell us that Nick cheated and it's a wrap with them. I think she chose to use those songs because they were fan favs and they were lyrically perfect for her situation. Instead of wasting two tracks she just reused two. She probably added the features so that people would figure they're remixes. Wouldn't it have been cool if Mariah and R. Kelly re did BGK and changed it to fit trapped in the closet. Lyrically the songs are perfect fits. I'd kill to see them do that. To top it off Mariah could've acted in the video. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 20:52)

Confession (47,856) by Randy from USA I am in love with "Oh Santa". I'm playing Christmas music and of course MC is a heavily featured artist on that play list. That song came on and I lost my mind in the car. It's very happy and upbeat and I have no idea it wasn't a massive hit like AIWFCIY. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 17:11)

Bill and Emotions (47,855) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Can you believe Mariah might be even better when she finally makes it over here? I am so excited. Also, if you listen closely at the 03:40 whistles, you can hear her harmonising with herself. I don't think I've heard her do that since AIYM on the debut album. It's like an angel couldn't help but sing along or something. Mariah's voice is anointed. No god, real or imagined, would ever take that away as long as she cherishes her gift. Thankfully, Mariah's already hip to that. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 15:04)

MIAM (47,854) by B from USA Mariah's is sounding better than ever, lately. She sounds like she did during the final stops on The Charmbracelet World Tour. I honestly think that first night was just nerves. Mariah has always had stage freight. When she started this tour her confidence was shaken by Nick's betrayal. Slowly but surely she's regained her confidence. She's slaying. I really hope she releases a new album next year. I've been listening to MIAMTEC, everyday while tanning and it's like a mature version of The Emancipation of Mimi. It's a great album. She didn't promote this masterpiece because she was heartbroken and devastated that her marriage was over. Mariah is the product of divorce and she's probably worried about the effect her divorce from Nick will have on their children. Give her a break. A part of me hopes she becomes more private like she was before Nick. I think she should keep all questions during interviews about her music and refuse to discuss het private life like she used to. Not that we know everything about her now she still has an air of mystery around her. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 15:00)

Album (47,852) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I really think MC might release a new album soon. Or atleast a re-release of MIAM with new songs, although I am not sure if that's the best idea at this point. If it was upto me, I'd have her release a completely new album and forget about MIAM. It's like when she was trying to revive Memoirs by releasing 2 remix albums, but finally decided to let it go. A new album with new tracks and hot re-sung remixes would be awesome. Mariah has never had problems writing songs that sound current yet classic Mariah, so I am not really worried about the writing/singing. What I wish she would focus on is marketing it right and really promoting it. Beyonce seems to be really trying to milk her album by now releasing a special edition box set. We haven't seen the end of Mariah, and with her improving vocals, we can expect her to promote her new songs by singing them live. (Saturday 8 November 2014; 13:50)

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