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Jono, Mirage_Nunez, Randy (47,531) by Marissa from USA I think people are quieter about her voice because Randy summed everything up in his post. Mirage_Nunez and Randy are right, the least of fans concerns is her whistle register. That is the note that she can always hit. It shut the general public up because they don't know any better. For most of us, the whistle register isn't exciting anymore or the main reason why we're attracted to Mariah's music. It's the icing on top of her full voice. It's her full voice that is questionable, which wasn't addressed in that video. Just because she hit some whistle notes in a relaxed setting (where she always sounds good, it's the live performances that often fall apart) doesn't mean that her voice is in excellent condition or that her vocal instability no longer exists. I wish it was as simple as putting out a 30 second YouTube video and things becoming perfect again but it isn't. (Wednesday 22 October 2014; 1:58)

Haters where you at? (47,530) by Jono from USA Hmm the board has been significantly quieter in terms of negativity since MC released that video a few days ago. Some "fans" were getting cocky, feeling themselves as experts on her voice and appointing themselves life coaches; thinking they know every thing under the sun. Not as brave anymore, huh? Stay seated. (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 22:26)

Whistle notes (47,529) by Mirage_Nunez from America Randy, I actually personally know many people that think Mariah has lost her whistle register and that she never hits them live. As fans we know that if one thing Mariah can do, it's whistle, but I don't think the haters, the general public, or people who like her in passing know that. Which leads me to believe the video is redeeming in some way. I agree with you about prefering to hear Mariah's full voice being in great condition though. Whistle notes have always just being the icing on the cake for me, what I've always loved the most about her voice is the tone, agility, and emotion she sang with. I'd give my all for Mariah's voice to fully recover from whatever has happened to it and for her to solidify herself as a great live vocalist once more. How great would it be to see Mariah shines vocally from here on out and have people say "the voice is back". (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 22:18)

Surprise (47,528) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 22:08)

Ian James (47,527) by Marcel from Montréal, Canada Don't be that lazy, just Google it. (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 22:05)

I enjoyed her show recording so much (47,525) by Critter from USA I thoroughly did. At first I was a bit annoyed by the chit-chat of 2 female concert goers. Very soon, their chat actually became enjoyable. One went like, "She is doing a wardrobe change." "I love her", "I wish I could be her scarf." "So beautiful". Then she went on saying, "After seeing her sing, who would watch 're Alice's (a Chinese tv show)." One of them of course said of Hero, "What a great song" and the "encore, encore" with the strong accent. All added more to the recording. Thanks for posting. (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 7:37)

Marcel (47,524) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia Define improvement. (Tuesday 21 October 2014; 3:50)

When CEO's play stupid (47,523) by nikki from usa First off, I'd like to point out almost 3 weeks ago I posted that Mariah had a cold and would gradually get better as she gets over it. I don't doubt emotional issues would also take a toll along with lack of sleep doesn't help. I claimed this would cause her healing to take awhile and as Mariah's vocals improved the press would simply stop talking about it because there was no way to bash her. So far, everything I said has transpired. What are we at now? Clothes? Next, Bartels doesn't think the fact the label didn't promote the album or any of its singles had anything to do with its performance? Seriously? Or the fact MC's own promotion was only marginally better? How about the fact her last music videos weren't even released? No manager or publicist. No major appearances. No Oprah, Ellen, Jay Leno. No live singing to promote the singles after Beautiful. Just for the sake of principle, I hope MC does a re-release and promotes it like she used to. How much you want to bet if she did that the album and singles sales would do better? Then, Steve will claim last year was just a "bad" time to release it. (Monday 20 October 2014; 23:57)

Anthony Basco, Vision Of Love GMA (47,522) by Elena from The Netherlands It's on YouTube, so you can get your copy there. I watched that performance right after I read so many negative things about MC's voice. I shed a tear, because what did she know back then? She gave everything. She doen't have to be exactly that now, but if only the focus en the caretaking of her voice returns, I'll be happy. (Monday 20 October 2014; 23:53)

What is there to complain about? (47,521) by M from UK Forget the negative media, they're irrelevant. As fans we received a phenomenal album, rave reviews. Mariah looks great. Mariah seems to have recovered from what ever cold/allergies she had, her voice soon followed. It looks as though they are filming all the concerts which means a concert DVD release for next year perhaps. Her dancers have made it pretty clear to expect new music plus an era revamp or re-release. She shut the naysayers down as I hoped via the new "whistle video" and China fan tribute video. What is there to complain about? I know it's hard sometimes when haters like That Grape Juice and Wendy Williams do nothing but slam Mimi, but start enjoying her again instead of criticizing and analyzing. (Monday 20 October 2014; 23:51)

Retire (47,520) by Danny Cedar from uk Maybe if everyone is so unhappy and critical with Mariahs current voice then she maybe should just retire? That's how all your messages are heading towards. Shouldn't we just be greatful she is touring and recording? (Monday 20 October 2014; 22:33)

Actually, Randy (47,518) by Marcel from Montréal, Canada I recall back in the early 90's she'd hit the high note at every single song and by Can't Let Go she was so critizised that they even took the high note out of the radio/video version. Music Box saw MC using it scarcely and just as an adornment in Daydrem and Butterfly. Then everybody was so fond on the issue that MC's voice was going through a severe damage that by Rainbow she came back hitting high notes here and there, like if a high note meant something. I spent last night watching the full China concert posted in here trying to find the greatness some were pointing out. I couldn't find it. It was a mostly lipped concert. Live: Emotions, part of My All, part of ABMB and guess Hero and VOL in a way. You cannot almost hear her voice not because of amateur recording and the girl moaning oh oh the whole concert because in the rest of it you were able to hear her pre-recorded vocals. I don't get why if she's lipping she takes so long between songs and she's not even talking to the audience. She's been lipping too much since the Butterfly concerts still, but I guess this is the worst because when singing live, in the Buttefly tour she was hoarse and almost out of voice but still somehow in pitch, now, everytime she hits a few words live over the backup record, she sounds out of pitch and tempo. I haven't heard any single performance in this last tour that has any improvement in her voice. (Monday 20 October 2014; 21:30)

The Elusive Chanteuse Show and the Mariah fandemonium (47,517) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End LC and Deedre, so glad you all enjoyed the concert, as did I. Imagine, it was filmed by a fan, how much better wouldn't Mariah sound if it was recorded professionally? But I love how candid it was and how the fangurling was so on point. Encore encore encore. Lambs at their best. It's obvious to me that MC is getting undeservedly bad press on account of a couple bad notes. I now even question the validity of those early 00:16 clips that starred the whole "Mariah can't sing anymore" meme that had the anti-lambs salivating at the possibility of Mariah losing her mojo. Does anyone else find it funny how Mariah is only accused of singing live when it's "bad" and never when it's good? I mean, some hobby-critics go as far as splicing one single performance into: live plus lipped and dubbed vocals to try and justify their often times logical conclusions. God forbid, once in a blue moon, Mariah Carey live would ever be capable of sounding like, oh I don't know, Mariah Carey on a record? (Monday 20 October 2014; 17:32)

Mariah's hair (47,516) by Lee TS from USA I hope this doesn't come off as ridiculous, well it is, but I'm not feeling her hair in the recent performances. She looked really beautiful, I think it was Yokohama with the side swept hair in soft waves. But during the China leg, her weave looks a bit raggedy especially the ends. Her glam squad needs to get it together. Mariah needs to bring back the dynamic duo Kristofer and Roque, they always had her looking flawless. Just a silly post. (Monday 20 October 2014; 16:10)

Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance (47,515) by Billy from Greece Did anyone know that this particular category in the Grammys has been discontinued? According to Wikipedia, "From 2012, all solo performances in the pop category (male, female, and instrumental) were shifted to the newly formed Best Pop Solo Performance category. " Also, according to Forbes, not one artist's album has gone platinum in 2014. (Monday 20 October 2014; 15:44)

Shorter set list as the tour progresses (47,514) by Gerard Tam from Singapore Is it me or is the current The Elusive Chanteuse show setlist getting shorter as the tour progresses from 1 country to another? (Monday 20 October 2014; 13:35)

Critical lambs (47,512) by Max from United Kingdom I don't know what the fuss is about. if you love Mariah, this is the time you should be garning for her most as it is the memento she needs us most. I think the Elusive was written whilst she was going through a difficult time, It's A Wrap with Mary J says it all. I think she told Mary J about Nick. I love it. (Monday 20 October 2014; 8:21)

Pissed (47,511) by Randy from USA I am upset that her team released this video on Facebook of her doing whistle notes. No one doubted that MC could still do whistle notes. In fact, that's the one note I am pretty sure she can hit live, even if the rest of the performance is a backing track and she's lip syncing. Early in her career, MC said she didn't want the whistle register to become a gimmick. Now it's used constantly. A whistle register does not a singer make. If that was the case, then Chante Moore would have 18 #1s. A friend of mine told me in the late 90s when things began to go wrong MC would be nothing without the whistle register. Now what do I say to this friend? I love MC. God knows I do. But when will it stop with the smoke and mirrors? When will she address what's going on with her full voice? For someone nicknamed "The Voice",' I'm not seeing a single performance worthy of that title. Even when most lambs are "moved" by a recent performance, I see it as marginal, capable of being copied by any singer, of course, except the whistle notes. (Monday 20 October 2014; 6:49)

MC should sing new songs in concerts, not old songs (47,510) by jaker20 from US New songs as in (1) songs on her current album, (2) songs that she can actually sing. She can't sing songs from the 90s anymore. It's a different time, different vocal abilities. I would rather hear her sing songs she can sing, than lip old "hits". During the concerts, people seem to dig her new songs too. And the reason is because they know it's live. It's like as soon as WTB plays, you know full well the belt is going to be lipped. Besides, why should she sing oldies? I just makes her look old has-been. Look at Madonna. You won't see her sing old popular hits unless it's completely re-done, re-mixed. That's why her concerts are always full-house. I just couldn't stand her butcher her own songs. She can sing her new songs because they're recorded recently to fit her voice. She simply can't sing Vision Of Love anymore and give it justice. You'll just get either sub-part, lipped, semi-lipped, or heavily-backtracked. (Monday 20 October 2014; 4:07)

The queen of shade (47,508) by Jono from USA Mariah just killed about fifty birds with one stone with this 30 second video. Voice critics? Check. "Real fans"? Check. Divorce rumors? Check. All the haters, she's looking right at you. I love her. (Monday 20 October 2014; 3:32)

Meteroite (47,507) by Abraham from USA I feel so embarrassed. I got the lyrics all wrong. It's "You got the night to light up the sky". But anyways, that verse is everything. (Monday 20 October 2014; 3:07)

Orkum / tour (47,506) by 123 from USA Orkum, great post. I also believe that she went back on tour to re-build her voice. Going on tour forces her to sing at least some of it and start creating some type of structure and normalcy to take care of herself and get some rest and create a routine. Here is hoping that as the tour continues, her voice improves. (Monday 20 October 2014; 0:53)

Enjoyed full concert video (47,505) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Thank you for posting. I agree about the fan interaction, I found it endearing. I know she struggled in spots, but I still enjoyed the concert. That's just me. (Monday 20 October 2014; 0:02)

Meteroite / Don't explain (47,504) by Abraham from USA I've really been feeling this song lately. I blasted it on my stereo at least 3 times. Along with some Earth, Wind and Fire. I think it's the "You got the light to light up the night" part that gets me. I'm gonna need Mariah to sing it live at one of her shows. I'm also feeling the "Don't explain" cover. I love it. (Sunday 19 October 2014; 23:59)

Songs that Mariah must include in the tour asap (47,502) by Panos from Greece As the tour unveils and I see day by day that Mariah's voice reaches Charmbracelet standards, I just can't get past the fact that she doesn't sing [...]. I'm really curious why. [...] remix would be also be a great opener. These songs should be the core of the concert. She could make a medley of 15-20 more minutes and it would be perfect. She sings [...] now, so why can't she change the show a little bit? I would go to the concert even if she could only sing [...]. This song made me fan, it made me love her and appreciate her. Without it I feel the concert is lacking Mariah's vocal showcase and soul. Now it's the perfect time to change the usual playlist and surprise us with something elusive. Can someone sent her a letter or write a request in instagram please? I know you want it too . Am I wrong? The only song I don't expect her to sing again is [...] (Nick's favorite) and [...], because she hates them so much. I love them but who cares. She has a ton of other wonderful songs to perform. [...] is also my second most expected song to hear. It's a modern disco classic. When she released it, I couldn't believe that my wish for a disco song with a ballad intro, came true. This song would receive praise and shoot the album back in charts in Asia and Japan. They responded so well when it was released in May, even though it wasn't promoted. I wonder where is the video she was shooting? Where is that beautiful unreleased remix? Now that would be a surpsrise. She could sing it after [...]. Where are the new written songs? I don't wanna be negative but changes are needed. I am not an expert but I'm sure that some of these things could really work. The songs she lets out are the most popular among Asian fans and of course for the rest of her fanbase, even the general public. It's a shame to be so talented and not show it. To be honest the current playlist is a let down for me. But she is Mariah Carey. She can change the game and at the end of the day it's her show. Let's wait and see what she'll do in the next concerts. She can slay us right now that the voice is back. I believe it with all my heart. Come one Mariah do justice to the title of your show. Refresh your playlists. You can make it happen. Then Europe, South America and US would kill to see her again. (Sunday 19 October 2014; 21:26)

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