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First posting (45,730) by maleRN from USA
I've followed the Archives for a long time without posting. Katy Perry pushed me over the edge, ha. I don't know why she aggravates me so much. I think it has something to do with the way she repeatedly disses her fellow female artists. You don't see Beyonce or Gaga disrespecting their peers, but supporting them. She's had three successful pop albums now, but in my opinion, that success is based on tacky music videos, a sexualized image, and autotune. Her live performances are sort of painful to listen to. It irks me that she has the audacity to turn MC into a caricature. It's so reductive (no, I am not a Madonna fan) and condescending. Even the line insinuating that she sucks at Carey-oke is laced with sarcasm. MC could shade the mess out of her with "Thirsty". So many lines in the song could apply to KP. It might be the mature thing for MC to take the "high road", but I kind of hope MC has some fun with the video and goes to town on all these disrespectful girls.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 22:34)
B / Katy Perry (45,729) by Abraham from USA
I liked your post about the songs. I agree, but you forgot "Heavenly". That's one hell of a song. I love when Mariah does gospel. Katy Perry , ugh. We shouldn't even bother discussing her. She's irreverent, and compared with Mariah is a joke. She has zero talent. She's just jealous of Mariah. A buddy of mine on YouTube put her on his "Worst female singers" vids. So if any of you all haven't seen any of them, please do. You'll laugh.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 21:14)
Covers (45,728) by Bill from the UK
My favourite cover would be the first and fairest of them all, I'll Be There. I can (and have) played nothing but that song continuously for hours and it never gets tiresome. Unplugged is my favourite album and there was a certain magic in the air that night and it built and built until it peaked with that performance. It is light years better than the original, and I love watching performances of Mariah and Trey over the years singing this. Their friendship just shines through and it's such an appropriate song for two friends to sing together. Nothing tops it in my opinion, but honourable mentions would be for Without You, Endless Love with Luther and I Still Believe.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 20:41)
ZachMC (45,727) by B from USA
I agree. It's hauntingly beautiful. It's one of my favorites. Mariah is still the best. She writes her songs she's not like Beyonce and other so called divas who change a few words to get a writing credit or only agree to record a song if they get a writing credit. You can tell a song is written by Mariah. Like Faith Hill's Where Are You Christmas and the songs she wrote for Allure. She has a signature.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 20:34)
Katy Perry (45,726) by Musti from UK
A horrible song and a pointless video. At first I didn't mind the Mariah look-a-like, but then she puts up a photo of Aretha? So Aretha gets respect and Mariah gets a drag queen? We are all well aware that Mariah loves vanity and touching herself, but it sure doesn't fall on Katy to emphasize that. I'm not too bothered by it as I don't take Katy seriously at all. But this video has confirmed it for me that Katy mostly sees Mariah as a joke. I officially dislike her.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 20:33)
ZachMC / Camouflage / your MIAMTEC mini concert (45,725) by Brad from USA
Hi lambs. I hope everyone is being well to themselves and to others. I just wanted to echo ZachMC's post about "Camouflage", my listening to MIAMTEC always begins there. I feel this song. In fact, my MIAMTEC loop or mini concert setlist for this album would consist of: (1) Camouflage, (2) Money, (3) Make It Look Good, (4) You Dont Know What To Do, and (5) Supernatural. Right in that order. I do enjoy other songs on the album, but these songs are the heart of it, for me. What's your MIAMTEC mini concert setlist look like?
(Friday 1 August 2014; 20:24)
"Camouflage" is underrated / brilliant sequencing (45,724) by ZachSingsMariah from USA
I feel like people haven't highlighted Camouflage enough. I really think it's one of the most unique and compelling ballads Mariah's ever done. I think the NY Daily News review described it best when they said it's "the closest to abstract a Mariah song will ever come". Stunning lyrics, enchanting vocal layering, haunting richness and complexity. It's a true tour de force, dahling.
Also, I could not be more pleased with how seamlessly the album flows from one song to the next. I remember that series of pics MC posted back in April of her sitting at the beach reflecting on the songs and carefully thinking through the chronology and arc of this album, and that pensive attention to detail clearly paid off. The transitions are especially brilliant: the scribbles before "Faded", the "Dedicated" banter, the match before YME, the cyberspheric Meterorite intro. It goes on. In short, I can't get enough of this album.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 18:51)
Me. I am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse (45,723) by B from USA
Cry: A vocal showcase. Mariah proving she's still The Voice.
Faded: The Mike Will Made It beat and Mariah's stunning vocals make this a standout.
Dedicated: Mariah and Nas reminiscing over a sapmle of Wu-Tang Clan's Da Mystery of Chessboxin is perfection.
#Beautiful: Mariah and Miguel harmonizing together is beauitiful.
Thirsty: Pull down those Tom Fords and act like you see the genius of Mariah's clever lyrics.
Make It Look Good: Stevie Wonder playing the harmonica while Mariah belts over that skipping beat is classic Carey. She proves she could still own the A/C market if she wanted to.
You're Mine (Eternal): Mariah's best ballad since 2005.
YDKWTD: Mariah and JD proving they can still make magic together.
Supernatural: Mariah and her twins are too cute. Mariah belts like it's 1995. It's cheesy and adorable.
Meteorite: Mariah doing disco. A true standout.
Camouflage: A gospel ballad that finds Mariah reflecting on the end of a relationship.
Money: A catchy 90's throwback jam.
This is one of Mariah's best albums. It deserves to be heard.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 18:48)
Re: Fave Mariah covers (excluding Christmas songs) (45,722) by Dennis from The Netherlands
1. If You Should Ever Be Lonely / Heartbreaker Remix
1. Endless Love
2. Without You
3. Sweetheart
4. If Only You Knew / Somewhere Over The Rainbow
5. I Still Believe (dance remix)
6. Open Arms
7. One More Try
8. When Do The Bells Ring For Me
9. It's Only Make Believe
10. Against All Odds
(Friday 1 August 2014; 18:06)
Tour (45,720) by Dove from USA
I hope she sings new songs on this tour. Like all the songs from MIAM and a few upbeat songs from other albums, like Migrate. I feel like she always sings Hero and I love Hero but I've already heard her sing it a million times. My favorite concert was the Daydream era Tokyo concert. I don't believe she'll ever sing those songs better than she did that night, so I don't think she should try. She has hundreds of good songs she's never sung live that are begging to be sung. Regarding covers, I love the song I Want To Know What Love Is. I think it's such a heart wrenching song but I feel the production could have been better. At the end when she really starts feeling it, it just ends. I feel it could have gone longer. A really good, longer, live version would have been awesome. I love the way she looks when she performed it on The View. Against All Odds is really powerful too. I can't choose a favorite. Or maybe she could sing them that good again but she's already sung them perfectly and it was captured on video. I just want to hear her sing songs she's never sung before.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 17:58)
Fave Mariah covers (excluding Christmas songs) (45,719) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
I’m a fan of only some of Mariah’s cover versions due to various reasons that mostly boil down to song choice. For years I’ve wondered why she seemed to be more inclined to remake songs sung by men rather than women (as evinced by the studio versions she has created and released). And then one day, like a signature Mariah shade, it hit me hard: it’s more interesting, most times even easier to cover songs by the opposite sex. I mean the gender-bending alone elicits intrigue, as opposed to if she covers a woman’s song, she’ll be more hard-pressed to find ways to make it her own without having to stray too far from the original. Reactions from critics have generally been mixed to even negative regarding her cover choices throughout the years. My top 5 are:
5) One More Try (grown on me)
4) Without You (powerful vocals)
3) Open Arms (elegant)
2) Didn’t Mean To Turn You On (rare upbeat cover)
1) I Still Believe (best ever)
My worst 3 (since there’s not really much left) are:
3) I Want To Know What Love Is (so watered down and unreasonably cut short)
2) Sweetheart (still don’t get it even after countless listens, must be a melody thing)
1) Last Night A DJ Saved My Life (enough said)
What are yours?
(Friday 1 August 2014; 16:50)
Katy Perry (45,718) by Martyn from England, UK
Katy Perry is horrific. She has no talent and I will never understand her appeal. However, I really don't get the drama. I see the Mariah mention as a nod to Mariah, and as for the video depiction (stroking her legs in a tight dress), it's incredibly accurate. It's just a bit of fun, you're all taking it too seriously.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 15:47)
Billy from Greece (45,717) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Hey Billy, well since the subject of your post was a direct reply to my post I naturally assumed it was directed at me. But you are nice enough to apologize, and so all if forgiven and forgotten. Thanks for clarifying your point.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 15:29)
Tracks I like most MIAM (45,716) by May from Denmark
Personally:
1. Meteorite (I burnt my pc with this song on repeat lol)
2. Cry
3. Make it look good
4. You don't know what to do
5. One more try
I really liked "You are mine", so probably would go number 6 on my list and I have played it quite a few times, my 3 years old loves it and she sings it in a very cute... loud way lol. The one I truly dislike but I guess I dislike any song that it sounds noisy alike, is Money. I tried to like it, but I can't. I know a bunch of people who love that song. I can't find the reason why. Supernatural is sweet but there's too much going on so I can't be bothered to listening to it as a stand alone track. It's a boom that the tweet thing was a fake but oh well, I still truly hope a re-release.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 12:47)
"No big deal" about Perry (45,715) by May from Denmark
While one could draw several things positive or negative - depending what you want to "find" - from one tiny little phrase in Perry lyrics, truth is that I think she just took the advantage of the moment and simply did a game of words "Mariah Ca-rey-o-ke". Bet she thought what singer name she could use when writing the lyrics and thought Mariah surname fit perfectly for that line, I bet she even thought "uuh, I'm so clever" while chopping a fluffy flamingo pen in a boyish pyjama on her bed ahahahaha. And I don't feel bothered at how MC was portrayed in the video, it's just someone pretending to be her in a sexy pose, nothing more. I would say, let's move on.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 12:33)
Re: Mimi L. (45,714) by Billy from Greece
Just to clarify: my second post was not directed exclusively to you, and I would never mock another person so blatantly. It was a general reference to several posts about the "drama" of the whole deal. Re-reading my post, I can now see how the "Einstein" comment can be interpreted as being offensive when directed to a specific person (which was not my intention), so I'd like to apologize for that. It was more in the vein of "we don't have to be Einstein" to see the concept behind the Katy Perry video. In any case, I've devoted more time and words on the topic than I would originally care for, so I'll stop here.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 10:37)
Mariah Carey... The Elusive Chanteuse (45,713) by Badr from USA
I am wondering if Mariah is doing it on purpose, being elusive. Perhaps being "elusive" is part of her strategy. In regards to that pop "singer" mocking Mariah, let's see where she is in 5 years. It's funny because she's not "young" for pop music standards.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 5:54)
Webmaster / anyone (45,711) by Abraham from USA
Can someone please tell me how to post a video?
(Friday 1 August 2014; 1:55)
Billy from Greece (45,710) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Rude much? I didn't call Katy a saint. Check out my previous posts where I said that Katy has a habit of picking one sided fights with others to stay in the news. Which was in reference to the throwback comment and I was also one of the people who said that Katy indeed was being mean about Mariah in the throwback comment. All I said now is that in this music video, she didn't make fun of Mariah like we expected. Because it was rumoured to be a offensive. But all I got from the video was Katy saying she and her friends sucked at Mariah karaokes and a look alike impersonating Mariah, which was also not an offensive impersonation because Mariah does that move a lot in her videos, the "slight bend and touch" thing I mean. And they chose a person with a figure similar to Mariah's TEOM gig. You should know by now that nowadays Mariah parodies end up being very disrespectful like they saying she is "old" or using a heavy impersonator to make fun of her weight or to make fun of her cleavage display. In the Ariana Problem parodies, there are atleast 2 were Mariah has been brought up and in both case she was either called "82 years old" or "grandma". So comparatively this video was not offensive at all.
(Friday 1 August 2014; 0:28)
A frantic uproar (45,709) by Loris from Italy
The new Katy Perry' single is a frantic uproar, a really deplorable track. The reference to Mariah is not necessarily negative looking at the lyrics, but the way Mariah is portrayed, with the "touching her body" thing, is a bit unflattering, and anyway it's disrespectful to even mention Mariah's name on that dreadful thing that is This Is How We Do. It doesn't look like a nice homage to me.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 23:28)
Re: the "drama" (45,708) by Billy from Greece
Have you not seen the video where the "singer" under discussion throws major shade at Mariah calling her "fabulous for a throwback"? You don't have to be Einstein to read between the lines. Just look for that interview. I doubt the look-alike in the video is a shoutout.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 22:58)
The drama (45,707) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
So all the rumors about Katy hiring a drag queen to make fun of Mariah got us all angry, however it turns out Katy is actually just praising Mariah, singing "day drinking at wildcats and sucking at Mariah karaoke". So we can all put down the flaming torches now. And I don't know if the person she used is a drag queen or not because it comes on screen for a split second and is so illuminated with lights that her face isn't quite visible. But the person pulls a good Mariah, with the TEOM figure and hair (long curls) and doing a little "touching of the body". So yes basically it's more of a shout out to Mariah's great voice than a diss. I guess the rumors were probably intentionally distributed to gain attention for the single. A few days back Mariah's YouTube page "liked" the lyrics video of the same song and I was like why would she do that when Katy is rumored to be dissing her, but oh well now we know. Mariah probably approves of the praise.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 21:41)
MOAIA / Katy (45,706) by Bill from the UK
This is qhm, I completely agree with your post about MOAIA. Ribbon is by far the best song on the album. However I prefer Languishing over Standing O. As for Katy, no big deal. It's not a dig at Mariah at all. In other news, been playing Till The End Of Time a lot lately. What a beautiful song.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 21:25)
This is how we do drama (45,705) by enwar00 from usa
Why exactly is it being viewed as this huge big negative drama that Katy Perry has a Mariah lookalike in her video? She references her in the song, which I thought was complimentary as it's staying that Katy and her friends are singing a Mariah Carey song on karaoke but they suck in comparison. To me it's light hearted song in general about having fun. So why not show her, or a lookalike, in the video to go along with the lyric, especially when there are so many other visual references in it as well.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 20:25)
Haters (45,704) by Billy from Greece
Remember that insidious blue-haired wannabe-singer who trashed Mariah on an Australian show a few months ago? Well, she has indeed included a lookalike of Mariah in her new video (as rumor had it), obviously taking a shot at her. Have you heard her speaking by the way? Her presumptuousness is just something else.
(Thursday 31 July 2014; 18:51)

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