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Theories (45,594) by B from USA Mariah says in the liner notes to the new album that it's for the broken hearted. Has anyone else read that. When I did I thought of her relationship with Nick. She makes a lot of references to him. Thirsty: The Hollywood sign is calling you again is about his stints on America's Got Talent. Money: I dream the impossible dream which is a reference to the song The Impossible from Memoirs. Camouflage: I camouflage my tears and you wear your disguise which is about his persona as a comedian. Make It Look Good: He's a known player and looks really good. Faded: You're always somewhere but you're not there for me which is about their separation, they've spent a lot of time apart recently. I really think their having problems. I think it started after the birth of the twins. I found and was reading the USA Today interview she did when she was gearing up for the release of Memoirs and the interviewer said neither her nor Cannon speak about their marriage because of how private Mariah was. Boy, how time changes things. Over the past couple of years Nick has spoken candidly about their sex life, their problems, and about her and the children. He spoke about leaving Nicole from the Pussycat Dolls for Mariah and sleeping with Kim Kardashian. He even uses her for material for his jokes. I think she hates that and I don't blame her. He's tarnished America's sweetheart. I think he's to blame for the disconnect between her and her fans and the general public. Think K-Fed and Britney. (Friday 25 July 2014; 20:05)

Dissing Madonna / African kids (45,593) by Orkun from The Netherlands If I remember correctly, Madonna indeed dissed Mariah first and what we see on YouTube was Mariah's response. Madonna said : "I'd rather kill myself than being Mariah. She is so dumb." So Mariah replied. About being skinny and the African children comment, I remember back in the day, Mariah and her manager said that she never said such thing and it was all a big big lie. (Friday 25 July 2014; 19:47)

Mariah (45,589) by B from USA Mariah never said that about the starving kids. Do you really think Tommy and her team would have allowed that. Get real. Katy is a joke, I'm over it. Mariah looks amazing, she lost the weight. She chose the perfect event to show off her hard work and honor a friend at the same time. (Friday 25 July 2014; 19:41)

Shelly (45,588) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I love your idea for Money. Mine was actually really similar including the shopping and vacation part. But instead of a helicopter I had a private jet in mind and instead of the cut scenes being of her like the Bye Bye video (where she is on stage) I was thinking of the cut scenes being like the Honey remix (like she was with Diddy and Mase in the golden honey tunnel, dancing around like where she was wearing the brown crop top and skirt in your display picture) so she could be in another setting with Fabolous and Mike will and dance around with them, bumping and bouncing to the chorus and some rap parts. And at the end when Fabulous says "take your money" they she could throw a wad of cash at the camera and walk away. (Friday 25 July 2014; 19:19)

Edward (45,587) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Man, the Katy quote was real. Now I don't know if she is actually trying to sabotage Mariah's career, but the throwback comment was a diss. I remember reading it and thought it was probably taken out of context but I watched the interview and she meant it in a mean way and once she said that people around her chuckled a little and she was like enjoying it. Katy has a habit of picking fights with people even when the other party doesn't provoke her (or care for her either). She has done it with Gaga, Miley, Rihanna, and many others. She says controversial stuff to stay relevant because honestly her songs (even though she is a somewhat decent singer) are like the kind of songs which will come, get real popular for the season and then it falls off the face of the earth (unlike Mariah or Michael or Whitney whose songs to on to become classics). So Katy needs to stay in the news by picking up one sided fights with other celebs. (Friday 25 July 2014; 19:13)

Katy Perry / Mariah mis-quote / Madonna feud (45,586) by John from USA Mariah never said "Whenever I watch TV and see those poor, starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean, I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff." She has taken a lot of crap for this quote over the years, and I can't remember the source, but this was debunked. Also, as far as Katy Perry, I think Katy is kind of an airhead. Sometimes I don't even realize she knows what she's saying. There's a quote in one of her songs where she says "Failing real hard at Mariah karaoke." I actually don't think she's a hater. I mean, if she was gonna mock Mariah in a video, the way I see it, Mariah must have clearly had an impact on her to acknowledge her (even like that). And yes, Mariah dissed Madonna, but Madonna said some very mean things about her in an article. Madonna said things to the effect that Mariah wasn't very bright and that she'd rather kill herself than be Mariah. Mariah herself in an early interview (Music Box era?) said "I see Madonna at parties, and she smiles and waves, but behind my back I know it's a different story." Madonna was a bully to her, and Mariah shut her down. Madonna deserved it, if you ask me. (Friday 25 July 2014; 18:51)

Starving kids comment (45,585) by Jenny from South Africa Hi Shelley. I think Edward was actually saying that the story about Mariah making that starving kids comment was false and maybe the stories about Katy trying to sabotage Mariah are also false. I think most of the gossip that is written about celebrities is just made up nonsense to sell tabloids. There have been so many false rumours printed about Mariah that I take things supposedly said by other celebrities with a pinch of salt unless I see it coming straight out of their mouths. The throwback comment Katy made could come across as insulting but she must have been a fan at some point to be naming her songs and describing her videos like that. It might not have been meant to sound insulting intentionally. If she was trying to be offensive then forget her, Mariah's records speak for themselves. (Friday 25 July 2014; 18:50)

Re. Starving kids remark (45,584) by Joe from United Kingdom Has anybody actually heard or seen her make this comment because I hear that it's made up. Myth: Mariah Carey told an interviewer she always cries when she sees starving kids on TV, because she would love to be that skinny. Reality: Extremely false. In 1996 a satirical US website invented an interview with Carey, claiming she had told them: “When I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can’t help but cry. I mean, I’d love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff.” Credulous British mags and newspapers reported the "quote" and the story spread like wildfire. (Friday 25 July 2014; 18:23)

Favourite era Of Mariah's voice (45,583) by Martyn from England, UK Mariah's voice has changed so much over her career, and there are various "eras" of hers that I liked both past and present, but I actually think my favourite era of her voice was in the Mariah Carey/Emotions/Unplugged era. Her voice is so light and effortless here, and whilst I appreciate the silkyness of the Daydream era and the powerful vocals she gave in the Glitter era, I will always class her first few years as her vocal peak. What do you guys think? (N.B. My all time favourite live performance is the Saturday Night Live rehearsal for "Vanishing".) (Friday 25 July 2014; 17:03)

Re: Let's jump on the "Let's-Hate-Katy Wagon" (45,581) by Dove from USA It sounds like a blatant diss to me. It almost sounds exactly like what Mariah said about Madonna in 1995. The difference is that Madonna dissed Mariah first and Mariah was probably offended and retaliating. Katy Perry is only a year younger than me and I remember Mariah from my childhood vividly, like it was yesterday. She was already a huge success. In Katy's documentary, it sounded like she wasn't allowed to listen to secular music growing up anyway, so what is she talking about? It was clearly done to make Mariah seem irrelevant. Her followers are mostly young and will follow whatever she says. Just like the little kids on the Mariah Vs Ariana video. They are told Mariah is a has-been so they mindlessly repeat it and believe it. But the same kids will say that Michael Jackson is "The King" and Whitney Houston is "The Voice". Regarding Mariah's starving kids comment: I couldn't find footage of it but to me it sounds like she really does feel badly for the starving kids, but then she tried to lighten the mood by making a joke which unfortunately was in bad taste. She was young and messed up but clearly it was a naive mistake and not a marketing attempt to sabotage anybody. (Friday 25 July 2014; 16:52)

Voice during Butterfly era (45,580) by Darryle from USA Butterfly is my favorite album/era so I may be slightly biased but I think that her voice during Butterfly was amazing. She'd just started whispering then so it was a smooth whisper that flowed like honey. Her runs were out of this world and they made each song she sung 10 times better. Her belts where top notch and really resonant. My favorite part of her voice was how raspy it was and how husky her lows where. Her lows and her rasp is showcased in her performance of "Over the rainbow/if you only knew". (Friday 25 July 2014; 15:52)

MimiLamb (45,579) by RockyRoc from England Yeah, I guess what you said is more reasonable. I was just saying that comparing them during their debuts is unfair because there is no comparing, just an annihilation. So it's fair for both people, but unfair for Ariana. I don't know if that makes sense or not, but I just go with it. (Friday 25 July 2014; 12:49)

Re: RockyRoc from England (45,578) by MimiLamb from Germany I have to comment on one of the things you wrote: "I just can't explain how unfair that was for Ariana. I mean, I think it's fair when people compare her to present Mariah, but anything during the 90's, don't even bother." Why is it unfair? If you want to compare artists you have to do it when they were the same age. I think it's highly unfair to compare Ariana's (fresh) voice in her 20's with Mariah's voice (after being in the game for 24+ years) with 44. That in my honest opinion is totally unfair. This showcases how both were when they started and shows that there is no comparison really. Ariana can sing a nice tune no doubt, but it's just not the powerhouse voice Mariah has. (Friday 25 July 2014; 8:07)

Money ($*/...) (45,576) by Dove from USA Coming in on a helicopter while looking super excited and amazed at the gorgeous scenery below, the look of awe that's on her face when she's admiring the angels on the ceiling and then looking outside the window at that breathtaking view, the joy of being able to give an amazing tip, rolling around on good sheets, shopping Pretty Woman style, walking into a restaurant looking like a queen and having everybody turn and admire you, ordering everything on the menu and really enjoying your food without a worry in the world, going skiing and base jumping (or for Mariah maybe a hot air balloon ride) spa treatments, gambling. I think it would make her seem relatable to see that she still enjoys and appreciates all the awesomeness that is her life. Not showing off, but really enjoying and appreciating it. It would also be cool if they cut to show scenes of her and Nick at their weddings looking happy and in love and having fun, maybe dancing at their wedding. And then also scenes of her singing this song (like in the Bye Bye video) in a concert and everyone singing back to her with their hands in the air. Then at the end she gets off the plane and Nick is there waiting for her with a car board sign that reads: Mrs. Cannon. I want Nick in the video because I really like him. I think this song is about him so I think it would be cool for her kids and grandkids to see one day. That's my cheesy (but I think sweet) concept. When I hear this song I think of all the amazing things and experiences money can buy, which makes me think of the movie Last Holiday starring Queen Latifah. I think it would be neat if Mariah remade parts of that movie for this video. Most of my favorite parts are in this trailer. (Friday 25 July 2014; 5:51)

Bill and RockyRoc (45,575) by Dove from USA Bill, thank you. The whole first album is amazing. I've been playing it a lot lately. I was amazed to find that a lot of the best songs on that album were already written before she even signed to CBS records. Wow. RockyRoc, I went and looked for that video and you're so right. Ariana is very good but Mariah blows her out of the water. MC's voice just sounds so open, like she doesn't strain or struggle at all. Especially in the live performances back then. (Friday 25 July 2014; 5:37)

Re: Carla (45,574) by nikki from usa I often feel the way you do about things concerning MC. I'm from the US and I know a lot of people who love Mariah. But, from my perspective my culture is filled with people who have the attention span of a gnat. You'd be surprised how many think her last album was Emancipation or E=MC2. Judging by her album sales it would appear her international lambs are far more devoted. If her album wasn't pushed back so many times it would have done better. Visibility is key and I don't mean tabloids. I've been listening to MC in interviews lately and I get it. The fans seem to have a problem with "letting go". Mariah isn't doing the usual with this album and she's not being seen. She's said at least 10 times now she's not interested in releasing singles because she wants this LP to be heard as a whole. People aren't getting it. This LP represents then and now. Every genre she's had a hit in and her favorite kind of music. People are surprised America The Beautiful was included, but lambs know that's the first song she sang live for the masses. I can't wait for her tour. The people who count Mariah out are the same that are shocked when she "comes back", as if she ever left in the first place. (Friday 25 July 2014; 5:02)

Let's jump on the "Let's-Hate-Katy Wagon" (45,573) by Edward from USA People, before jumping on the Let's-Hate-Katy Wagon, do a little research about the veracity of what some tabloids and online gossip websites are saying. When Katy Perry said Mariah was great for a throwback, she was actually acknowledging Mariah's longevity. When Mariah Carey first album came out, Katy was just 6 years old, so the eyes she sees Mariah with are different from the eyes of those who were teenagers at that time. There is not a video, or a credible source factually confirming what has been said. Do you guys remember when Mariah supposedly said the following on an interview back in the 90's: "Whenever I watch TV and see those poor, starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean, I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff."? Enough said. (Friday 25 July 2014; 3:35)

Good over bad (45,572) by Carol from Spain I can say a million things about Mariah that I don't like. But those million things are nothing compared to what I love about her. So I choose good over bad. I think it's hard for some to do that around here. (Friday 25 July 2014; 2:38)

Re: Shelly from USA (45,571) by Carol from Spain First of all, I don't put anyone down: I give an opinion based on other people's opinions on this messageboard. Second: the fact you come here and post doesn't mean you like Mariah. Simply because most posts show you're here to criticize not support (I don't mean you specifically of course). Next: the promotion I said was meant for the webmaster post, no one else's. Buying albums and posting videos on social meadia is a better promotion of course. More: if you pay attention to some posts, they critique MC on everything from her hair to her weight. You're positive, that's good, but not everyone is like that. I find it quite insulting to see people attack her for everything she does. Nothing is good for them simply because she doesn't do what they want. And who named everyone a manager, stylist, hairdresser and assistant? Mariah is her own woman and some should let it be. My posts are not to be an axample to anyone. If some can critique her so much why can't I stand up for her the way I feel fit? When it comes to ignoring upseting posts there is a problem: I refuse to do that. The bottom line for me isn't the fact people saying they dont like it, it's the fact they do it over and over again. They attack and judge her like they own the truth about her life simply because they are fans. Say what you want and move along but no, not here. (Friday 25 July 2014; 2:33)

Mariah's voice (45,570) by RockyRoc from England I totally agree with Mariah's voice sounding more and more special when compared to other singers. I came across a video comparing the debut album vocals of Ariana Grande and Mariah, and I just can't explain how unfair that was for Ariana. I mean, I think it's fair when people compare her to present Mariah, but anything during the 90's, don't even bother. I don't mean to bash Ari, because she's pretty good, but when you compare Mariah's voice to someone as fresh as Ariana, you can see just how much of a "one in a million" voice our songbird supreme has. P.S. Butterfly is Mariah's best album ever. (Friday 25 July 2014; 0:57)

Shelly / Vanishing (45,569) by Bill from the UK Hi Shelly. I just want to say that I love your posts and what you bring to this message board. Thanks for being so enthusiastic and sharing your thoughts. I agree completely about Vanishing. That girl's version was nice, and it must be daunting to take on a Mariah song, but it just emphasised the quality and brilliance of Mariah's voice to me. I've probably played Vanishing 10,000 times in my life, but hearing this has given Mariah's classic a whole new lease of life for me. Been playing it on repeat most of the evening, this really is up there as one of her ultimate compositions and vocal performances. Spell binding. (Thursday 24 July 2014; 22:26)

Question (45,568) by Dove from USA When I found this site I had Googled "Mariah Carey discussion board" and this was the first link on that day. But I just noticed it says Messageboard. Is this a discussion board or more of a guest book type board? Are we only supposed to be posting the positive things we think, as if she would be reading them? [Webmaster: "Do you want to share your thoughts and ideas with other Mariah Carey fans. Are you looking for a special item for your collection? Or do you just want to talk about Mariah?" This means you can talk about everything Mariah related, the good and the bas stuff. But please don't insult Mariah, other artists or posters.] (Thursday 24 July 2014; 20:31)

Anja Nissen (45,566) by Dove from USA I just heard her version of Vanishing and although it was really good it was nowhere compared to the original. Whenever I hear other artists sing Mariah songs it makes me appreciate Mariah that much more. MC makes it sound effortless, like she just talks that way. (Thursday 24 July 2014; 20:16)

Beauty products Mariah uses (45,565) by Me. I am Carly from USA Hey lambs, I was looking through a bunch of photos and was able to identify some beauty products Mariah uses but has never mentioned by brand, for instance she uses a specific olive oil hair cholesterol conditioner. I got a huge container for 3.99 at Duane read it smells amazing and my hair is like Mariah silky. You can see the items on my Facebook page Church of Mariah. (Thursday 24 July 2014; 20:04)

Super human (45,564) by Dove from USA I was watching old YouTube videos of when MOIA came out. She was going on all the talk shows promoting her new fragrance Forever. She was putting it between her boobs and other parts of her body and singing notes. When I watch it now I think it's really cute and "so Mariah" but back then I remember I criticised her on a discussion board for doing that. I mean, I wasn't the first one to say it but I agreed. Also that she was acting like a drunk valley girl. After that she went on another talk show and she had a stone cold face and didn't do the fragrance routine that time. I feel so bad about that now because maybe someone told her what was being said and it hurt her feelings. Or they told her she couldn't do it. It just makes me think that I will be more careful with my criticism from now on. I think sometimes I live vicariously through her because she has a glamorous life, she's talented, rich, beautiful, sexy, blessed in every way. I think sometimes we see her as super human and even though we do love her maybe some of us do get a little jealous in a way, including me. (Thursday 24 July 2014; 20:00)

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