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Edward dahling (44,843) by MCLAFAN from USA Quit taking it overboard [...]. Focus on something else for a change. You just wasted 3 minutes of your life thinking up the perfect response to post on here. [...] I didn't say be more positive and post nothing but positive things. [...] Don't skim read messages and then reply in the heat of the moment. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 19:47)

Lyrics Thirsty end part (44,842) by nancy from Switzerland Living in the lights I dream of fancy cars like superstars Don't know who you are That vip who offered you a seat Up inside the club and it be constantly Can't get the real man Cuz boy you're thirsty yeah yeah (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 19:12)

Negative comments on the messageboard / please stop (44,841) by Edward from USA Since we need to be positive, and more than positive, real lambs, we need to start discussing positive things about this era and Mariah, like: How great the promotion for MIAMTEC has been, and how Mariah posts pics on Instagram, but doesn't say anything about what's going on. To follow the positivity of my fellow real fans, or should I say lambs? Today I got the wonderful Lollipop Bling perfume, and 20 bottles of the Butterfly drink, yes, that drink that talks to you when you drink it and tells you what is going on with promotion, and when a new single will be released. As real lambs, it's imperative that we all buy many copies of the nail polish today, that's very positive and engaging. It is very positive to paint our nails in different colors. And for those negative fans that won't stop talking about Mariah's voice and such, you should be ashamed of yourselves, just like our beloved Isaac Ortiz once said, the voice is there just like the first day, you should all clean your ears, how dare you talking about laser treatment? And last but not least, as a real and positive lambs, you should know that Migrate should've been a single, thank God I remembered that one, only positive and real lambs like me know that one. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 18:51)

"Grown up fan" (44,840) by MCLAFAN from USA I'm a "grown up fan". I've been a fan since 1995 and would've been a fan since 1990 but my city didn't have any top 40 stations until around 1995. It says a lot about someone when they make assumptions about an artist without taking into consideration that they are real people with real lives and real problems. Do you all recall her talking about putting up that "wall" in the Matt Lauer interview? I think she's got some things going on right now and I will never assume or go off and a "tangent" about what MC needs to do or not do. Shes been the top chick in the game since 1990, I'm pretty sure she knows how things look right now. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 18:48)

Getting it twisted (44,839) by MCLAFAN from USA Some of you all have gotten my message all twisted up. Quit getting your panties in a wad. I clearly stated the over posting of negative comments is annoying. If you can read then you saw where I said I have opinions as well and I admit Mariah is not perfect, especially here lately. But I'm not gonna make every post sound like I'm bashing her and then end it with a nice "but I love the album". [...] Go to the MariahCarey.com boards and create your own topic if that's all you people wanna do. If you really follow Mariah and [...] know her from day one then you know there is a reason for everything she does. She has babies and a husband and [...] since Nick is busy all summer with AGI and his movie, maybe she's trying to be a good mom and be around for the kids and not traveling and dragging her kids all over the world. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 18:34)

Bill from Uk (44,838) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia I wasn't really expecting an apology, but I do appreciate you doing so. I understand your point and I assure you as a fair "lamb" I know how to decifer the difference between a mature constructive discussion regarding MC and someone just being negative and disparaging. I just don't want a negative connotation to start being asscociated with being a "lamb". I would hate for a term or endearment that Mariah has given us to turn into something "bad" or "shameful". It's a messageboard so differences in opinions are inevitable. What's a message board without diversity? But at the end of the day we should all still maintain a level of respect for not only Mariah, but each other as fans, lambs, or whatever term fits you best as a person with Mariah's best interest. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 17:37)

Nadia Ciasullo (44,837) by Gilbert from USA Please please please, can you share with the fans on the ad-libs that she adds towards the end of Thirsty. This is the second post I've seen which mentioned you got the lyrics but no one has responded to my request. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 16:58)

Lamb O Chop (44,836) by Bill from the UK I apologise, but I'm exasperated. You can't have a decent discussion here without a "lamb" (for want of a better word) elbowing their way into the conversation and calling us negative. There's nothing negative about what the grown up fans discuss here whatsoever. We talk about concerns and irregularities and things which don't sit right with us. That's not being negative, but just coming here to talk to like minded people (as there are no Mariah fans in "real life" seemingly, this is the only place to say what's on our minds and get feedback on it). I'm tired of walking on egg shells here through fear of being lynched if I say a live performance wasn't that great. As I mentioned there are plenty of forums etc. for praise and worship of Mariah, but this message board's appeal is it's sensible members and realistic topic discussions. I don't want to see that go away because we all get yelled at when saying something constructive. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 16:48)

Nadia Ciasullo (44,835) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Hey. Do you mind enlightening us on Mariah's ad-libs at the end of Thirsty? That is if it is included in the lyrics sheet? (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 15:38)

True lambs (44,834) by Dan from US Lets Mariah, Beyonce and Toni duet on a song together, come on. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 15:17)

Hold up now (44,833) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Lets not do the term "lamb" as if its something negative boo. . Because my definition of being a lamb is a loyal fan that holds MC in the highest regard. That doesn't mean being delusional or being unable to offer respectful constructive criticism. So I'm gonna need you all to keep it cute. If you are a casual, fair-weather, or love/hate relationship type fan then that's your prerogative, and I have no issue with that. However, I do have an issue with you coming for my fan status in a negative way, so lets not turn this into the "fans" versus the "lambs" war. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 15:11)

Lyrics MIAMTEC (44,832) by nancy from Switzerland I got the Japanese version of the album and it contains a separate white booklet with all the lyrics and translation in Japanese. I don't understand why the European version and the US version does not have the lyrics inside. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 15:04)

Mariah (44,831) by Dan from US I think the only way would be if Mariah does a duet with Beyonce or Toni Braxton and that will sell. She needs controversy lambs. And that will gain sales. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 15:01)

MCLAFAN (44,830) by Bill from the UK Sorry, but I'm so sick of these sorts of messages. I am a proud non-lamb. I'd never want to be like you. Plenty of fans, Stephen, Edward, PJW to name just a few, express their thoughts constructively and discuss real issues with fans here. At the same time, they're each praising her latest album which we all agree is a fantastic record. If this message board is too high brow for you then stick to YouTube comments. (Slaps MCLAFAN in the face with a MIAMTEC CD.) (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 11:42)

[...] (44,829) by MCLAFAN from USA You people are full of negativity galore. [...] If you are a true lamb, you support Mariah through and through. That means you can have an opinion and still love Mimi, but you dont bombard messageboards (which are meant for fans to connect and express their love for Mimi) not blow the boards up with your bitter mess. She has been nothing but nice and supportive of her fans since the very beginning. I can't wait until she goes on tour. I will be [...] singing my little heart out, because I am a [...]. I have opinions and Mariah isn't perfect but this new album is [...]. You all have taken over this messageboard with your hateful remarks and need to be slapped in the face with a Madonna CD. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 3:49)

Mariah to promo her new album (44,828) by Shamsulikhram Mahamood from Malaysia I wish Mimi will go to promote her album in a mini concert or any TV appearence so people will hear and know how good her album is. She can even promote her new drinks at the same time but first priority is her album. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 3:18)

Nodules removal (44,827) by RadChad from United States PJW, it's funny. I've actually had this discussion with a good friend late last month and like Edward said, I believe Mariah's just afraid to go under the knife. She's learned how to sing around the nodules all her life (she's had them since childhood), and in many early interviews cited that they've actually contributed to her voice/worked as an advantage (whistle register and lower huskier register). Which is why I believe she doesn't want to risk the surgery because she doesn't know what it means for her voice. Obviously they've gotten to a point where they work more as a disadvantage now, so I agree that something has to give. Mariah is aware of how sensitive her voice is, so if she's serious about reclaiming its full glory; she should do her part first by avoiding certain things that'll have adverse affects on it. Otherwise bow out gracefully, because the struggle to sing live is becoming more obvious and frequent. Someone mentioned that many singers have undergone the surgery which is more advanced now, but at the same time we don't know how bad Mariah's are or how risky it would be. I'm hoping for MC to do her part and believing in God to do the rest (a miracle). Her voice is here to bless people, but you can't abuse God's gift for too long and expect it to not be taken away. One another note, did anybody hear the rumour that she actually did secretly undergo the surgery in '97 and what we're hearing now is actually the result of that? (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 2:59)

A reliable Mariah lyrics site (44,826) by Andrew from Australia Can anybody recommend a really good and reliable lyrics site for Mariah's new album? I've scrolled through a few and not all the lyrics are complete. I am particularly interested in the Wale rap verses in YDKWTD, which is my most favorite song. And I may be the only one here but MILG is my least favorite song. And does anybody feel that Mariah has a habit of laughing in a lot of her songs. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 2:44)

Does it really matter? (44,825) by Danny Braden from Uk Mariah should def not risk surgery, what does it matter if she can't or won't sing live when 20+ years she still puts out an album like MIAMTEC with amazing vocals? We forget just how talented she is, even now. Stop saying "the state" of her voice, it's a one of a kind. You'd have to wait 100s of years to have a possibility of someone like Mariah. Maybe never. Even now it's great. Appreciate the details on songs like Money and Heavenly and the joy she brings, it's like everyone's living in the past except Mariah. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 1:32)

PJW (44,824) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Great post. I was thinking something similar recently. Something definitely has to give. Mariah can't go on as she has been, and some kind of action needs to be taken. IMO, there's no point in Mariah having surgery unless she changes her lifestyle to accompany it. I think she needs to do something though, because as things stand, her voice is not standing up and the deterioration that has taken place has been incredibly rapid, when compared to Barbra Streisand or Celine Dion, for example. A lifestyle change, a full time vocal coach, and surgery is probably needed. Tbh, even if she lost her whistle register, it would be worth it to have the rest of her vocal capability in tact. Atm, her technique barely allows her to whistle live anyway. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 0:49)

Carlos Jaramillo (44,823) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Great post. That clip was very nice to see, and is not something I had seen before. I agree with your post, and liked the confidence Mariah exuded back then. It's such a shame the way things have turned out. Mariah seems to be a real victim of celebrity, and has lost the essence of who she is in it all. It's sad to see. I find her amusing, and still like her. There's no point in wishing she is the same person she was when she was 25. I don't know many 44 year olds who are, but it's just a shame that Mariah seems so lost at an age where she should know exactly who she is and her win self worth. (Tuesday 17 June 2014; 0:41)

Mariah's vocal insecurities (response to Carlos Jaramillo) (44,822) by ADAM from USA Carlos that clip of Mariah from MTV during Christmas was amazing. That's around the time I and the rest of the world feel in love with MC - she had a voice of an angel and the bright personality of a girl from LI. Very relatable and funny. Watching the clip made me sad because it reminded me how out of touch she has become from where she used to be. Nowadays she would never let cameras see her rehearse like that or be so intimate with fans one on one. I wish someone would be able to break through to her from her past and get her to become more humble again. I remember listening to a Wendy Williams interview on YouTube with Brenda K Starr and she recounts in very good detail her relationship with MC and how over the years she shafted her and became so Hollywood. It's an excellent listen and still searchable on YouTube. Its really sad but so believable esp coming from someone who knew MC so intimetely. A good way to re-connect with the public would be to perform another MTV Live Unplugged show. That would hush all the nay-sayers but also show the world that yes her voice has matured but unlike everyone else whose voice is one note, her voice as it ages takes on different textures and tones that no one else has. I think it would win her the respect of the general public. She's a singer's singer and has the guts to pull something like that off. I'm always rooting for her. Thanks for sharing that wonderful clip. (Monday 16 June 2014; 23:27)

The elusive chantetour (44,821) by CONLECHE from usa I really hope Mimi tours for this album. So many good songs to perform. If her show went like this, I'd be in heaven: 01. Meteorite 02. Fantasy 03. #Beautiful 04. Make It Look Good 05. You Don't Know What To Do 06. Heartbreaker / If You Should Ever Be Lonely 07. Emotions 08. Yours 09. Subtle Invitation 10. Dreamlover 11. Always Be My Baby 12. One More Try 13. Honey 14. Vision Of Love 15. Touch My Body 16. We Belong Together 17. Butterfly (Monday 16 June 2014; 23:02)

Posts (44,820) by enwar00 from usa Some of these posts are so depressing, I can't even know what to say. Did you know nobody stays the same their whole life? Mariah Carey is no exception. (Monday 16 June 2014; 22:40)

Carlos Jaramillo / that Mariah (44,819) by Edward from USA Carlos Jaramillo, what you stated on you post was so on point. Little did we know. She looked so confident in that video because she knew she had it (the voice). She could've put a diva persona back then because she actually had her voice to back it up, but she didn't. That's why, at this stage in her career, I don't understand the diva attitude, the dahlings, her inability to compliment another artist (Ariana) who has praised her on almost every interview. The shine she had on that video has been lost, and I'm so sorry for her. It was really about the music/voice back then. Not big boobs, not gimmicks, just her voice. It was easier to cover things up back then too, but now with a camera on virtually every phone, anything can be easily exposed. (Monday 16 June 2014; 21:59)

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