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MIAM (45,393) by Billy from England, UK
One of the reasons I think Mariah hasn't promoted the album is because of the way she looks and I know Mariah is a perfectionist and wants to look her best and she's doing her best to get back to her best before she starts doing anything and she decided to give us this album because she knows we have waited long enough and that's my thoughts anyway.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 17:19)
Abraham from USA (Spanish songs) (45,392) by Carlos Jaramillo from USA
Hey, Abraham, off the top of my head, she has 3 other Spanish songs. Open Arms, Hero, My All all have Spanish versions.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 16:52)
Maybe the new era is 2015 (45,391) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
With the disappointment of the sales, and the disappearance of Mariah after the release of the album, maybe, just maybe, we all should just learn the art of letting go and move on. I hope Mariah would pull her act together, take this opportunity to get her rest, vocal rest, to prepare for her new era in 2015. Mariah could release her new single "Save the Day" or another new song in January 2015. Just my two cents.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 16:01)
About the whispery vocals (45,389) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
(Ok, I'm no vocal expert. This is a mere opinion of someone who has been singing most of his life based on an observation of Mariah's voice through the years.) Now it's when you try to inject musical tone in your whisper, producing a breathy, airy, feathery, raspy if slightly metallic-sounding coo, which is deceptively difficult to do. Be just as, if not more tiring than non-stop belting, and doing it often can take its toll on your voice in the long run. While it isn't harmful to everyone, to most people, it puts a lot of stress on their vocal chords, and I feel like Mariah is part of the majority. I think that aside from the excessive partying habit she's adapted after her divorce, she also progressively whispered more, which is a pretty damaging combination in itself, but turns even worse when added to a habit of working yourself to the ground. Another example (not the best singer at all, but a similar case) is Britney, who lost a good deal of the considerable vocal dexterity she had in her first 3 albums after she was advised to whisper-sing on her 4th album because "it sounded sexy", which she did, as it was what she needed to further sex up her image in a transitional stage at that point in her career. She hasn't recovered since. Don't get me wrong, I love Mariah's voice now (for all the grit it has and stories it tells on its own), but if we were going to pinpoint a vocal technique that may have really started the vocal decline, it'd be the whisper-singing. Through time, her "whisper register" has also evolved. From quite full and smooth in Butterfly, it became noticeably more breathy and rough on Rainbow and Glitter, then airy and thin on Charmbracelet. By TEOM to E=MC2, the deterioration was clearly irreversible. But it has then acquired a slightly thicker, more leathery texture apparent on MOAIA up until now. Now there's nothing wrong with whispering - hers has always sounded sexy and brilliantly evocative when done sparingly and effectively. But it has also made her voice more of an acquired taste than it's been before. I know quite many people who are put off by her whispering just as much as they are of her oversinging tendencies. Just read customer reviews of Charmbracelet or MOAIA on Amazon and you'll see a number of disappointed fans, although to be fair, most of them are very inconsiderate and obviously don't comprehend the ravages Mimi's voice has survived over the years. But that only serves as a testament to her talent and skill, because as a longtime fan I have tried mimicking her whisper-singing and I can honestly say you don't even have to be female (I'm a tenor) to realize just how difficult it is to whisper through most of a song, let alone a chunk of an album. She's that awesome.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 11:37)
Hermosa (45,388) by Abraham from USA
I'm curious if anyone listens to "Hermosa"? I really enjoy it. I think Mariah sounds amazing in Spanish. I'd really like her to record a whole song in Spanish. "Hermosa" should have been included in the deluxe, along with a few new songs.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 5:36)
Me I am Mariah (45,387) by B from USA
Critics have praised this album, saying it's one of her best. I agree. She's still relevant. #Beautiful proved she's still capable of scoring a hit. Her image is the problem. Her diva antics are over the top and the general public think of her as an out of touch ego maniac. She needs to appear humble and grateful for her achievements. She needs to hire a real manager. A star of her caliber deserves a manager like Benny Medina. She needs a stylist. Rachel Zoe could transform her in to a style icon. Or whoever dressed during her stint on AI. She proved she can act. Her talent is undeniable. She's a living legend and she's still releasing quality material twenty four years into her illustrious career. This era hasn't tarnished her legacy.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 3:59)
(When) I Feel It and TEOM tracklisting (45,386) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
This song gives me 70s soul vibe by way of Earth, Wind & Fire and The 5th Dimension, which is always a good thing. It's a shame legal shenanigans kept it from being released, because it's just a great, classy song. I read somewhere that it was replaced by Joy Ride, which I also like. For some reason, they had to stick to 14 tracks, and I'd rather have this replace To The Floor instead, which I don't think by any means is bad, but is just the weakest track on the album, especially melodically. As for the bonus tracks, I can see why they were relegated to such status, again, not because they're bad (they're actually both cute), but because to me Sprung probably has the most strained vocals I've ever heard from Mariah, while Secret Love has one of the most annoyingly repetitive chorus she's come up with since You Got Me and Boy (I Need You) (the latter I actually like, although it does get a lot of hate around here). I don't care so much for the Platinum Edition add-ons, save for Don't Forget About Us and So Lonely, which I think is better than One And Only and is one of the finest non-remix club tracks she has ever done. But it's (When) I Feel It that's the real waste here. I hope she'll be able to include it in one of her future albums.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 3:14)
Mariah Carey 2005 Ellen DeGeneres Show (45,385) by Dove from USA



I love them in this interview.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 2:42)
Correction (45,384) by Dove from USA
I know Bye Bye was on E=MC2 but when I was watching that one I started watching the Emancipation videos and it reminded me how good that era was.
(Monday 14 July 2014; 0:22)
Album experience (45,383) by Dove from USA
B I like your idea for the Faded video. It made me think of Bye Bye where she's laying on the yellow couch so I went to watch it. The whole 2005-2006 Emancipation era was pretty magical, right up there with the Daydream era. Even though I accept they're not promoting MIAM, it does make me sad because good videos, performances, interviews, photos, album art, etc. are part of the album experience that we remember. Those things become part of us just like the songs do. I don't want to be selfish and demand more, I'm thankful she gave us an amazingly beautiful album. But I do wish we had more. No matter what I'll always be a fan.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 21:21)
Post 45364 (45,382) by Dove from USA
I 100% agree with post 45364.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 19:54)
YDKWTD single cover blue dress (45,381) by Dove from USA
Compared to the other cover it's a vast improvement. There are things I don't like about it. I love the dress. It looks like something that would flatter her body, it's a fun color, it showsoff her best asset (legs), and doesn't over expose her breasts. What I don't like is that she looks too skinny, especially her face. It looks skeletal, like she's anorexic. And now that you mentioned it, her legs do look too long and too skinny. I knew it was the same picture with the dress photoshopped on but I guess after the other cover my expectations were way lowered. I wish they wouldn't photoshop her so much.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 19:48)
Re: throwback moments (45,380) by Dove from USA
To me YM(E) sounds like Underneath The Stars. The sad counterpart.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 19:39)
Billy / the gimmick (45,379) by Edward from USA
Billy, those were great vocals, but I hope you know by now that when Mariah starts using her hand to cover her face or turns her face away from the audience is when the recording kicks in and she's lipping the high note.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 19:16)
Tarragan / Charmbracelet-whisper-like albums (45,378) by Edward from USA
Tarraga, I was the one who made the comment. I love Charmbracelet, it is a great album, but the constant whispering was too much for most of us. I didn't make it up, it is what it is. Even Through The Rain, which was supposed to be her going back to her 90's days ballad, was mostly whispered. She wanted to create a Butterfly part 2 album, hence her reference to The Roof on Lullaby. I'm aware that it is extremely difficult to sing that way, but in the right doses I don't mind. Most fans didn't like the constant whispering, that's all. The success TEOM had proved that people wanted to hear her sing, not whisper. The return of the voice caught people's attention. Mariah was singing again.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 19:08)
Billy (45,377) by enwar00 from usa
Yes, I loved My All.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 16:36)
Gorgeous vocals from 2012 (45,376) by Billy from Greece



Why are the professional tapings so inferior, audio-wise, compared to amateur recordings like this, which showcase much more clearly the vocals? I don't get it.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 12:44)
TJ / Shelly (45,375) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
I don't think it's the official cover. It's fan made. It's the same picture that's on the official chanteuse cover with a dress photoshopped on it, the background changed and a mic set infront of her. If you google "Aimssy Boudir Mariah Carey" then you'll see there are many artworks of the official chanteuse cover with clothes on. About 10-12 different clothes. However this blue one is not a part of that. I saw another fan post it so it originally so I am assuming he designed it. Whether Mariah picked it from the "send me your YDKWTD cover" thing or not, I can't be sure but yeah it's basically fan made.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 12:03)
Lee (45,374) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Had Mariah done all the promo she could and then it would have flopped, I don't think people would be complaining. They would know she did everything she could and then failed. But if it seems like she herself isn't excited about her album, then one can't expect people to get excited. If it was a bad album I wouldn't feel so bad that she didn't go around promoting. I hate that such a piece of art is suffering a bad label (lowest selling) when it had the potential to do so much better. Plus like I said, Mariah isn't even responding to the frustrations of the fans. I am sure she sees all the things people tweet her asking what on earth went wrong, but she just chooses to reply to the positive ones. And then she sends out JD every month to be hanged. I don't think it's JD's fault, the man clearly is pissed with the way the album is going. At least he is communicating with the fans.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 9:48)
Sweet A Capella (45,373) by Bill from the UK
I woke up early today, and rather than getting straight up, I got my iPod and listened to some Mariah. I played the One Sweet Day single, and I forgot just how beautiful the Sweet A Capella remix is of that song. I haven't listened to that version in about a year. It is simply lovely, and one of my most favourite remixes she has done.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 9:10)
A bit torn (45,372) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
While I'm upset that Mariah has so far seemingly given up on her new release, I can't be happier for her every time she shares pics of her family. She seems genuinely fulfilled. She never planned on having kids, but you can see it in her eyes that she wouldn't have it any other way than it is now. This also may be the best way for her to deal with the media, because if she was out there promoting her ass off, she'd probably be deemed an unfit mother (even if Beyoncé, Britney, and J. Lo seem to be managing the balancing act well). True, MIAMTEC is too good an album to slack on, but I'm finally (gradually) accepting that this may be her graceful way of bowing out, although we all know she won't quit something that runs in her blood, so this may be the first sign of her slowing down a bit, especially since the music buying public isn't that welcoming of her anymore, even more now that there's a whole new school of younger artists to fill their needs. Mariah has been on top for a period even longer than most singers could only dream of. It's gonna take some getting used to not seeing her burn up the charts, but this was bound to happen sometime, and that started when she hit 40. Good news is that it allows her complete creative freedom, to do whatever she wants, whether that's to update her sound or to stay stuck in the past, because she's no longer that much concerned about sales. I feel like she'll just make even better music from now on, and we'll still be there to enjoy it.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 9:07)
Next move? (45,371) by TJ from Norway
Her contract is over. What's her next move now? I mean, with those sales, and low sales since 2006, will any record company hire her, or is she going to release her own music without someone behind her?
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 8:53)
Re: YDKWTD single cover blue dress (Shelly) (45,370) by TJ from Norway
I don't like that picture, because they made her 2 feet taller. Look how long the legs are compared to her upper body. And she's skinny like I don't know what. It's not human. I hope she will release a cover that is not retouched. It's like looking at a cartoon figure.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 8:48)
Here we go again (45,369) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
I rarely address or refer to ther fans here, but I'm with Marissa on this one. I re-read her recent posts and there's nothing wrong about them. This is what's wrong with us here on this board. It's almost always as if anything other than rainbows and butterflies (pun intended, but I digress) is posted here, some people are already out sharpening their pitchforks. Constructive criticism, especially if it's valid and as long as it's not overdone, is healthy. We can't be "yes"-fans all the time. The webmaster allows us to post almost everything, for better or worse, in the name of free speech. Difference in opinion is expected, hence some disagreements, but I don't see why those need or seem to always inadvertently resurrect the tired "loyal fans" vs. "real fans" debate. Ugh, like seriously, please just stop. If you see something you don't like or agree with, just post about something else entirely, such as anything you love about Mariah's music. It's what I do, and it takes my mind off the negativity while introducing other topics that may spark another discussion. (I personally love reading music-related posts from other fans that go into detail on what they like/dislike about a song, album, collaboration, etc.) Everyone has a inner troll inside, so I know trolling when I see it, and Marissa's posts definitely aren't.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 6:01)
Mariah Carey and her twins seem to enjoy 4th of July (45,368) by Cheryl Jones from American
I am glad they injoyed this day together, I had a good holiday too, went to Wilson NC to see my grandparents. It's good to spend time with your love ones, looks like Mariah Carey and me had the right ideal.
(Sunday 13 July 2014; 5:37)

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