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Whisper-like albums? Really? (45,367) by Tarraga from New York City Really? I don't post very often here but this is just plain silly. I strongly and respectfully disagree with the person who said that "God only knows how many Charmbracelet-whisper-like albums she would've had by now" after Butterfly. Really? Charmbracelet is as good and balanced as MIAMTEC and Mariah doesn't whisper all the time. What's the thing against whispering? Does anybody know how tremendously difficult that technique is and how huge is the amount of energy one needs to sing it properly like Mariah does? There are strong vocals on that album too. In my opinion, Charmbracelet is one of her best albums ever. She not only uses a vast variety of colors but also different "vocal styles and techniques". Mariah has never done an unbalanced album. Fan since 1990. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 4:03)

Throwback moments on the album (45,365) by Darryle from USA I've been noticing lots of throwback moments on the album so I've made a list of each one. If anyone knows more I'd love to see what you got. Cry - It reminds me of Vanishing and VOL and its lyrics (till we both break down) bring me back to the song Breakdown. Faded - References The Roof in the first line: It was overcast that day. The Roof: It wasn't raining yet but it was a little misty on that warm November night. Or FOJ: It was twilight that 4th of July. Dedicated - References Fantasy: Remix of a fantasy, I hear 'em singing back to me like. The whistles at the end remind me of All In Your Mind. Beautiful - The whistles at the end make me think Dreamlover. Thirsty - Lyrically I think Obsessed or TMB because it talks about Instagram and TMB talks about YouTube MILG - Sound wise I think It's A Wrap and Forever. YM(E) - ? YDKWTD - The line and even more than you love floating in a haze. Makes me think ILT because of the line purple taking me higher. Supernatural - ? Meteorite - Sound wise I think Fly Away (Butterfly reprise) and Daydream interlude (Fantasy sweet dub mix). Lyrically I think Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise). Camouflage - I think of The Wind and TTEOT because of the wind sound effects on both tracks. Money - ? OMT - ? Heavenly - Fly Like A Bird part 2. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 2:59)

Re: One question (45,364) by juan from Dubai It's not about heavy promotion and sales. It's more of good image and good performances/entertainment that are clean and fit for a Mariah history. Good image, I'm sure she is a normal happy sassy woman and mom, but have her PR promote her in a better way, not a nonsense acting or pouring shades to younger singers or her contemporaries. Good styling for photoshoots, that won't deal on too much retouching no matter what her current physique is. Performances, once a year a concert that will cater to TV and YouTube era so good and live, you don't need to mess up with lipping. Videos that are as good as WBT or Honey or My All. And altogether, the right timing. But all she wants is to release her music. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 2:54)

Learning her lesson (45,362) by Darryle from USA I'm over this album. If it's promoted great, if it's not I guess I'm going to have to deal with it. At the end of the day I just hope Mariah learns her lesson. She needs to let us in on what's happening and don't leave us out in the cold. All that does is divide the fans. Hopefully she learns that promo and having the GP on your side is key to good sales. I believe sales are important to Mariah despite how many times she says that she'd still make music even without good sales. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 2:33)

Lee (45,361) by Darryle from USA I'll answer your question. If she did a lot of promotion and still only sold 40k I'd be ok with that. It would suck that the sales would be that low but at least I'd know she tried. I would know that the public is generally not interested in the album and Mariah could work from there to fix it. But she's not even trying to do something to promote this album so the public could generally be interested in it if they knew it was out there. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 2:20)

One question (45,360) by Lee from USA What would you all have said if Mimi went hard on the promotion and MIAM ended up selling up 40k anyways? If she sits on her ass, then she is lazy. If she goes ham, then she is seen as desperate and over-the-hill. It's kind of pointless to go hard on Mimi about her album sales when virtually everyone else is doing worse. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 1:48)

Marissa / too much control (45,359) by Edward from USA Marissa, I couldn't have said it better, your analogy was right on point. Some fans don't understand that seeing Mariah go down the way she's going down is painful considering such an amazing catalog. You can clearly see JD's hands were tied from the beginning. His frustration for not having an input on MIAMTEC promotion can be sensed in his interviews. We fans need to open our mouths because if it weren't for us voicing our discontent, Mariah would've whispered her career to death after Butterfly. If we hadn't expressed the fact that we wanted her to sing more and whisper less, God only knows how many Charmbracelet-whisper-like albums she would've had by now. MIAMTEC is great, well balanced, but if she doesn't bring her A-game, we'll be having another album in probably 6 or 7 years. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 0:54)

MIAMTEC (45,358) by Abraham from USA As much as I love the album, I'm just going to wait and focus on album #15. This whole era has been a mess. If Mariah still plans on going on with the album, cool. If she doesn't, that's okay too. It sure would be great to see a video from her. I think "YDKWTD" would do good as a single. (Sunday 13 July 2014; 0:45)

Is it love or enabling? (45,357) by Marissa from USA I think it's so interesting that the holier than thou fans feel like anyone who gives constructive criticism isn't a fan, yet they are encouraging Mariah to do things that are destroying her legacy and undermining her credibility. Your level of expectations for Mariah have drastically plummeted if you think that asking for more promo is an unreasonable request. Isn't that what every artist does? Contrary to popular belief among the lambs, Mariah isn't above promotion and her sales reflect that. Since some people love telling who's a fan and who's not let me tell you what I think. I think there is a difference between being a fan and being an enabler. I think there is such thing as loving someone too much. Some of you remind me of those parents that will give their kids all the juice, candy, cookies and cake that they want whenever they want it because it makes them "happy" but you're really setting them up for juvenile diabetes and obesity in the near future. You guys want to excuse everything Mariah does trying to be "positive", when you're really encouraging her to continue doing things that are making her the laughing stock of the industry and reinforcing people's beliefs that she's a has-been. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 23:52)

Whatever MC is doing (45,356) by juan from Dubai I believe MC is very contented with her life and doesn't really care. She has done so many achievements that she remembers everything so clearly. You will notice it on her interviews, every single detail when she recalls events, it's like they just happened. Just to simplify, she lives in her own world consisting her family, her close friends, her old inspirations (eg. Patti, Stevie), Rae-Rae (terrible choreographer), dogs, and her own history. But she is contented, not competitive, lazy and afraid to bring the house down. I just want her and the fans to realize is she is able and can kick everyone out in this game so easily with just her live, well-rested singing voice. My recommendation, lets say she wants to keep being sexy. That's fine. But she can do another MTV Unplugged album, or a live acoustic concert, Like "Love Story Acoustic" and some creative promotion. I mean come on. She can without backing pre-recorded vocals. She can. She is a force of nature, bigger than Beyonce and Adele combined (no pun intended, lols). I love her. MC please kick asses. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 23:10)

Chill, it's gonna be big (45,354) by Kyle from USA There's a reason/strategy she is keeping quiet. She's not dumb. I'm sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know about. You know MiMi is pissed, she wants that next #1. YDKWTD is starting to gear up. There will be a huge promo blitz once the video is released. Def Jam wants to make $$$ too so lets all be calm. She hasn't disappointed us before. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 22:39)

Mariah (45,353) by Ty from USA Mariah has a trick up her sleeve. She's gonna jump ship back to LA Reid. Trust. She put 5 years into this record to not promote it. It's filled with hits. [...] Mariah fans need to realize she's over 40 with kids. Music is no longer her first love. Yes this area has been disappointing; but you can't say when you listen to [...] that you don't feel her energy and the power in those vocals. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 22:35)

Tone (45,352) by G.G. from USA SS sounds like the one who is "pressed", not to mention very angry. The tone of your message is aggressive and rude. If you, or any other lamb, really thinks sales and promotion won't affect future projects then you are delusional. Mariah Carey is a brand, and if people lose faith in that brand and the brand becomes tarnished the offers and opportunities won't come as often or as easily. People/companies will distance themselves from her, because nobody really wants to collaborate or associate with someone they feel is a flop or someone who they think isn't going to promote a project. Mariah isn't even using her Instagram, Twitter or Facebook to promote the single or album, which is free and a very basic way of promoting. As far as fans promoting the album, I and many others have. But, if the artist themselves isn't helping, there's not much we as fans can do. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 22:25)

Edward (45,351) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I laughed so hard at your post. I was going to say the same thing that it doesn't suit someone who is so rude in their own post to go ahead and preach others how to behave. I don't really think anyone on the board that are complaining about the promotions or lack of contact from Mariah are being rude in any way. As fans we have the right to feel frustrated, shows how we feel so passionately about Mariah's work. Something Mariah doesn't seem to be feeling currently. I am sick and tired of "she doesn't own you a dime" or "if you are pissed don't buy her music, she is so rich she would care". Well hello, I am sure she would care. This is a woman who insists on being introduced as "the best selling female artist of all time, more #1's than any other solo artist", she allegedly hung up on a radio interview when the interviewer mistakenly said 80 million albums sold instead of "over 200 million". Mariah is a legend, and the fact that now only people can say that "oh she sold 10000 more than JLo" is not fine by me. Whoever says that public exposure wouldn't translate into sales is delusional. I just want MC to atleast appear to care for an album she spent so many years perfecting. It seems like she just threw it out there and then is going out of her way to ignore anything to do with it. She is all over social media talking about life, but not one mention anything to do with the album, except for the occasional "Me. I am Mariah. Out now. Get your copy at iTunes." (Saturday 12 July 2014; 22:11)

MC's dwindling fanbase is confused (45,350) by jaker20 from US Daydream327, I posted something similar a few weeks back. MC's album sales shows that MC's fans have either abandoned her, or don't care much about her. 50k sales is JLo's level, and that says a lot. She has sunk to that level. The woman once considered one of the greatest in pop music, has become irrelevant in the music scene. Hey, no one can stay young forever. But does she has to go down in such an embarrassing manner destroying her legacy? Look at Barbra Streisand, when she's got a new album, fans are there (in fact the 70 year old did beat MC's Imperfect Angel in 2011 and debuted ahead). This means fans stuck with Barbra. MC does not know what she is losing. Look at the last 5 years: consecutive flop singles and albums, American Idol drama, lipping and or singing for dictators, embarrassingly photoshopped photos and album covers, delayed releases, abandoned promos, list goes on. Her image is so tarnished few people want to admit in public that they are fans. Just a few years ago, I am constantly in debates against Madonna fans. I was furiously defending MC. You know why? Because her place in the industry is in that level. Now, no one would even dare to compare her with Madonna because it would be an embarrassment to Madonna. At best, her career has sunk so low she is now a competition of JLo. "Yeah, MC's flop sales is ok, cause you know... look at JLo." JLo must be very happy. Personally, I didn't realize I would see this in my lifetime. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 21:11)

ss / how delusional (45,349) by Edward from USA SS has spoken, so now it is time to shut our mouths and go with her opinion. As I have stated before, opinions are like the ass, everybody has one, and so far I haven't ever seen anybody riding two horses with only one ass. Your opinions are yours, and not to be imposed on anybody. Your post was rude, yet you sit on your high horse preaching against rudeness, the elephant telling the rabbit that his ears are too big, how hypocritical. Last time I checked, rule no. 2 for posting on this messageboard "Messages that are insulting to Mariah or other artists will not be posted" was still in effect. By expressing our frustrations, demanding promotion or stating ideas about how MIAMTEC could be promoted we are not disrespecting Mariah. When opinions are so harsh on the nervous system, people should consider a Tylenol. I personally just skip to the next post. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 20:57)

The delusion is out of hand (45,348) by Daydream327 from USA Okay this is my honest opinion and some may not agree with it and find it "negative" but it has to be said. Some of you fans really need to step into reality. Let's be real, the disappointment by fans this era isn't solely about the lack of promotion, it's about wanting Mariah to take control of her legacy and not let it tarnish any further. So let's see the legendary Mariah Carey only sold 56k copies of MIAM, you know what that tells me? It tells me that even her once hardcore fans didn't buy this album. Mariah has sold over 200 million worldwide, she should be able to push at least 150k off her name alone. Look at Eminem, his last album sold 700k in it's first week (mind you it came out just last year), you know why? Because his core fanbase is still with him and supporting him. The whole "only young people buy music" is invalid if you're an established artist that has a huge following. Also JD's explaination is just a bad excuse. So why didn't the "lambs" support this album? I mean I can mention several reasons but I won't simply because I know most fans already know them. Mariah's fanbase has decreased greatly and is currently scattered, isn't that a clear sign that she has truly lost touch with her audience? Nevertheless, the album is amazing but it's time we look at the big picture. Mariah has to find a way to re-connect with her core audience again. She has to get serious about her legacy and image. People have had many misconceptions about her and unfortunately these are now becoming truth. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 20:22)

Music videos (45,346) by B from USA I hope Mariah decides to release Faded as a future single. A video for Faded could be of her writing in her diary reflecting on a lost love with faded pictures coming to life of happier times. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 16:56)

Pressed about promo? Get over it (45,345) by ss from Canada It's not 1999 anymore, all of the delusion about promo for this single ain't gonna happen. Get mad, stay pressed because she's not gonna promote. It's a different time in the industry and you all know this so why cry over it? She's not selling, big deal, you have the album enjoy it. You want the Mimi "experience" all over the TV, mags and radio, go back to 2005 when people gave a crap about music. No one cares and you all know this, she's gotten mad press over the Internet, people are aware but no one's buying. She had 3 million people watching her home special on NBC along with whatever viewership from the Today Show performance, you think people didn't watch and aren't aware? She's over it, if the album sells it's gonna be solely based on whether YDKWTD is going to be a hit on radio and word of mouth. So you can all sit there and bitch like your life depends on it like you're entitled to it when nothing is going to change. Even some artists at the peak of their careers aren't selling right now and you're making a fuss over MC like you think it's another MiMi era. No one's telling anyone they can't post what they feel, just be a little respectful towards Mariah and a little less demanding over it. She doesn't owe you a dime, you chose to purchase her albums and you chose to be a fan or whatever you wanna call yourselves. I'm just tired of the rudeness on here in general. Take it for what it is, and just enjoy the album, it's out of your hands. You wanna do something, spread the word. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 15:22)

Huge fan (45,344) by OGmattyICE from US Hey guys. To keep it brief, I recently bought a few Mariah posters and framed them and put them in my room, but the poster I am coveting over all others is a poster of her MTV Unplugged artwork as that's my favorite picture of her. If any one of you see that poster for sale please let me know. Preferably 24x36, but any size would be gravy. Thanks so much. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 6:56)

Edward (45,322) / Aaron (45,343) by Stacey from USA Amen to every word you said. Amen. I grow so tired of fans telling other fans what they can and cannot post. Seriously, if an opinion bugs you, ignore it. How hard is that? I love this album. It bugs me that she isn't doing more promotion for such a great album. For someone who is so detailed oriented, it surprises me MC isn't more upset over all the disorganization. Don't like my opinion? Tough. I'm not going to stop simply because some nameless face on a computer screen tells me too. *sigh* Rant over, lol. Aaron, that video was amazing. You really are talented. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 4:34)

You're Mine video idea (45,342) by Dove from USA I apologize if I'm posting too much, last one today I promise. I went on a roadtrip and listened to the album over and over and came back inspired. I like to read other people's video ideas so I hope people enjoy reading mine. At the beginning she lights a scented candle and the voice over says "I just can't seem to give you up, you're mine" as she sits in the tub. Her hair like in the pool scene in DFAU. Then the "mine, mine" the scene from the official video. First verse: she's in a dark room in bed hugging her pillow and a tear rolls down hercheek. Then it goes to the scene from the video where she's holding her boobs. You make me feel: scenes of them hugging and being happy then her sad in bed. The official video is pretty good because she looks genuinly sad and heartbroken but it needs a little acting to explain why she's sad and disassociating by going to the deserted island. At the end they could show her belly down finally falling asleep. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 3:49)

MILG (45,341) by Dove from USA MILG would have been the song she sang on the piano. It's such a sexy, lusty song. She could have stayed on that piano for the entirety of the song. I wish their were videos for every song. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 3:31)

Thirsty video idea continued (45,339) by Dove from USA "So you stunting on your Instagram" he could remake the part in Gatsby with the shirts and have someone taking a picture with a phone. "I have a man in England who buys my clothes." (Saturday 12 July 2014; 3:18)

Mariah's Vevo nearing 1 billion views (45,338) by nikki from usa Currently, Mariah's on the verge of getting certified for 1 billion views on Vevo. People forget Mariah has a lot of music videos. Vevo is currently missing the music videos from the Rainbow album with the exception of TGIFY and Crybaby. In addition, they're missing most of her remix music videos from the 90's. Add those and she'll get there. The remix for My All is up, but disguised with a picture from the original version. Mariah's current Vevo stats are at 966 million. (Saturday 12 July 2014; 2:44)

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