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Beyonce (40,208)
by Licia from USA
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I have to admit what Beyonce and her camp did was a good move, but I don't believe that any of you would buy anything Mariah based off of the snippets on iTunes and no single. Nope, I don't believe it at all. Lol.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 14:26)
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Beyonce visionary genius (40,207)
by Blake from USA
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Wow. Her marketing team is flawless and she is so classy (not a lot about herself in interviews). I wish Mariah could pull this shit off. Beyonce is setting such an example. I wish Mariah could take notice. Will Mariah ever be this creative again? I doubt it.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 13:35)
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Beyonce (40,206)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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That was a genius move. Wow. It created a worldwide frenzy and people will rush to buy the album just because of that. It's new, it's fresh, it's innovative. I am really shocked. But what upsets me is that Mariah could not do this. She is wasting her time talking about how she downplayed her shoulder injury, about Nick's operation, if the interviewers like her dress, talking about how risky her neckline is and all, when her fans desperately need her to release new material. I am not a big Beyonce fan but this was honestly an brilliant move. All this time she was on tour all over the world and she stlll found time to do this, and not just a mixtape or EP, a full fledged album. Complete with 17 music videos. And Mariah had 4 years and still could not come up with an album. I love Mariah, but recently her work ethics have really made me upset. People might say she is married, had kids, let her have her personal time, well so did Beyonce. Secondly, if you are in entertainment business, you basically need to work all the time to stay relevant. Rihanna is really close to overtaking Mariah. Which is ridiculous considering the fact that Mariah is way above Rihanna in talent. But this business is about staying relevant.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 12:26)
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Beyonce (40,204)
by David from Australia
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That move was absolutely incredible. Granted, it's a great way to create awareness and talk about the album, therefore aiding in sales which I'm sure was why she did it, but regardless it was something different. It would be cool if Mariah did something different like that to create hype for the album and help sales, as opposed to waiting for a single to smash before releasing the album.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 11:45)
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Beyonce (40,203)
by Will from England
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Ok, can I just say this? I've been wanting Mariah to do exactly what Beyonce just did: drop an entire album on iTunes for us all to hear and buy without all the mess and fuss. Can you imagine that? No more waiting, no more speculation of when the album could be coming out, no more delays. We just go to bed one night, and wake up to find the album there ready and waiting. This one move has generated more headlines/gossip column pages etc. than Gaga or anyone else, without her doing anything except record the songs and videos. No gimmicks, no shock tactics (except the release), she just released the music. Come on Mariah, give us the album already!
(Friday 13 December 2013; 11:00)
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Beyonce (40,202)
by clueey23 from USA
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Beyonce is proof there are no rules in the music industry today. She just released a whole album last night called, Beyonce. No promotion, no single as of yet. But that is an awesome gift to the fans. So I wish everybody on the message board would stop talking about "traditional" rules for releasing music. It's not the 90s anymore. Beyonce has been on tour and finishing her album this past year. So you all tell me will she get more or less album sells, or does she even care? Guys chill out on MC.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 10:53)
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To all who post here (40,201)
by Gabe from USA
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I want to thank you for posting thoughts and comments. It's very interesting to read other fans points of views and opinions. Whether you are a lamb or a fan somewhere in the middle it's cool to read your posts. This is my Mariah Carey collection (see post 40,077). Let me know what you think. I feel it's pretty incredible. 
(Friday 13 December 2013; 10:43)
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I support MC doing a dance album (40,200)
by jaker20 from US
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If that is what she wants to do next. If she lose her core fans, well, hello, it's not like her core fans make a dent in her career or sales anymore. She needs new fans! I also support her doing something jazzy, or some mashup genre. What is this fear amongst MC fans that she shouldn't do dance music? If you say it's because she can't dance, hello, it's not like Gloria Estefan and Gaynor can dance either. It's not like she's new to dance. She's charted no.1 in dance chart more than most artists in that genre itself for crying out loud. She's got 16 of them! It's not foreign to her. Look at that fail song Triumphant that had an amazing remix version. Well then just go straight releasing the remix version and maybe you won't strain your vocals. A good music is a good music with or without the high notes. She has nothing to prove so she should take risks in her music. Be an artist, not just a singer. Expand her genre, collaborate, make music not nailpolish. Her voice is not as strong, but the artist will always be there. I've stated many times that MC is a pop genius and it's wasted by expectations that she should always belt. But you all put her in this box of screaming vocalists. I will argue many here untill cows come home that she's more than the voice but fans will never get it.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 5:45)
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Re: Nikki (40,199)
by jaker20 from US
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I'm glad you state your opinion in a civil way. But we agree to disagree. You are saying that MC can claim "best selling of all time" title due to Soundscan. Come on, we all know that is misleading advertising. Also you are mixing up your Soundscan and global numbers. You yourself stated Madonna sold 27 million during Soundscan (it's actually 29m but I'll use your number here to prove a point). Pre-Soundscan she has RIAA certification total to 41m. That totals to 68m vs MC's 54. Yes RIAA don't represent actual sales, but if you add MC's RIAA certifications it is more or less the same number. That's also huge gap to think about. It is simply not possible. We're not even talking about global numbers here, just US sales. I think a lot of artsts used Soundscan's number and run with it for advertising. That's like saying Garth Brooks is the "best selling artist of all time", because you know, according to Soundscan, he sold 4m more albums than The Beatles. Sounds good for advertising, but we all know that's not true.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 5:22)
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Lamb since Vision Of Love, but..... (40,198)
by CHAZ from USA
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No one (a lot of old fans, newer fans, new fans, people in general, even the music industry) seems to take you seriously anymore because it seems like you don't take yourself seriously, i.e., recent appearances in Angie Martinez, Jimmy Fallon, and The Today Show. Yeah, it's cool to show your fun side, but must you seem like you've just lost your mind every time? I hate to say it, but please take a cue from Jennifer Lopez, who seems so poised and professional and fun at the same time. I still love you and still will defend you from my friends, but at times, you make me say, "WTF?" Now I need a splash myself.
(Friday 13 December 2013; 3:04)
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I love you Mariah but... (40,197)
by Gilbert from USA
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You need to stop announcing that you broke your shoulder. I mean it was all over the news. You're well and please move on. What you wore on the Today show, at first I thought oh maybe it's a dress, but why does everyone need to see your negligee? Aye Mariah, you give people reason to think your really off the wall sometimes. I love you, but really? 
(Friday 13 December 2013; 0:42)
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RE: Jaker (40,196)
by nikki from usa
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I have to disagree with you. That's very accurate advertising. The whole point of Soundscan is to track actual sales. Not so called shipments and certificates which are paid for, and numbers declared, from the record companies. The RIAA gets its numbers straight from the record company which is why there was never a way to gauge accuracy. There was severe number gouging which is why Soundscan was invented. Even if you add up all of Madonna's material from beginning to '91, she's around 100 million shipments. Since '91 to present day Madonna has only sold 27 million albums (US), which means she would've had to sell over 170 million worldwide to equal the number her PR is claiming. Her Immaculate album came out in November of 1990 and before Soundscan began counting actual sales in March '91 (3 months and 3 weeks later) her label claimed it already sold 5 million copies in the US. A few months after March her label claimed she sold another 5 million, even though Soundscan showed she was in hundreds of thousands with sales. No where near 5 million. This is where they got their hands caught in the cookie jar. This is an example of number gouging. The reason both MC and Celine Dion have awards recognizing over 100 million albums sold and Madonna doesn't is because they can prove it. If Madonna's sales were true, she would've won that award 3x's by now. Her actual sales have yet to prove she's hit 100 million even once.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 20:56)
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Rihanna 13 #1s (40,195)
by clueey23 from USA
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Who cares? On half the songs that went to #1 she is a featured artist. For example, "Monster" is an Eminem song where Rihanna sings the hook. MC will always have the distinction of having written and produced her own #1 songs. I'm glad we don't have to see MC associated with demonic images and just everything that Rihanna has become. We should all know that Rihanna loves MC. Also, Rihanna's career, as far as putting out an album almost every year since she's been an active artist., is molded after MC. Only Rihanna's songs are pop fluff, not pop classics. Don't get me wrong, I own Rihanna's albums, but to compare to Mariah's music is comedy. And she still needs 5 more songs to top the chart before she matches MC's record, that's a lot of #1s! But I do find it strange that she is amongst Michael Jackson, Madonna, Mariah, Elvis, and Whitney Houston.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 13:40)
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Today Show (40,194)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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We'd be a little delusional if we don't see Mariah being a little irrelevant during interview. From around the 4.37 mark of the interview where the interviewer tries to move on to the next part and Mariah starts talking about her negligee. The open basically keeps saying "ok ok Mariah wait" because Mariah wasn't stopping and obviously the interview had a time limit so the woman had to move to the next part. Also when the interviewer was going to ask about AIWFCIY, Mariah started talking about "they call the wind Mariah". Opening and closing her satin robe and going on and on about how she's giving her a peak when the interviewer asked to see her closet.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 8:38)
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Blaming the media, Rihanna, reality check, etc. (40,193)
by jaker20 from US
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First, don't blame the media because Mariah is media. She has her own media, PR and advertising people, therefore she is part of that industry. All the press they put out over the years, best-selling female artist, most no.1 singer, etc. She might not have created it, but she definitely chased it and danced with it. We all know that the "best selling" part is not true. MC is best selling in Soundscan era but we all know Madonna takes the overall title. So that's somewhat false and misleading advertising. In my opinion, MC's true legacy is having the most no.1s by a solo artist. Here comes Rihanna, getting her 13th no.1 so fast I can't believe she'll break MC's record while MC is still actively working. She's definitely gunning for that title and with the way chart formulas are structured now, she'll definitely take it faster than we all though. Now, let's not pretend this isn't important. MC used that title herself throughout her career, it is good for business so to speak. MC at this point in her life probably: (1) don't care, (2) silently lamenting, (3) or just plainly don't know what to do (4) would rather focus on nail polish and perfumes. MC is kind of a victim of her own success.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 8:23)
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Mariah needs to reinvent (40,192)
by jaker20 from US
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MC probably hates that word because its synonymous to Madonna who has endured and outlived everyone's career, even those who came after her. But that's going to be MC's curse. If she doesn't reinvent, then as a performer she can't survive. Reinventing doesn't mean you have to change who you are. It's just part of growth, and any artists should continue to grow and change, because your body changes as well and you can't do the same you use to do 20 years ago. That is of course if MC even want to perform anymore. At the rate she's going, she seem more interested in reinventing herself as a business woman selling nail polish and perfumes.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 8:07)
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AIWFCIY (40,191)
by clueey23 from USA
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I think it's cool that "All I Want For Christmas Is You" is almost 20 years old and is #26 on Billboard Hot 100. If you all haven't noticed there is an AIWFCIY mega promotion going on. Also #1 on Billboard Hot 100 Christmas songs. A dream of mine is for this song to be #1 on the Hot 100. But one can only dream. I think it's amazing that only MC can be the "queen of Christmas".
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 7:19)
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George / interview (40,190)
by Jay from USA
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Rihanna has 13 #1 songs on the Pop chart. She already surpassed Mariah. Mariah has 18 #1 on the Top 100 Songs. It's a different chart. No travesty yet. And as far as the interview, I see no difference in how Mariah acts in any of her other interviews. And I just chalk it up to her insecurities (which she often refers to in her songs). Which I think is also why she always has to do various takes when she sings live (pre-taped). She's human like the rest of us, except richer and with a hell of alot more talent.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 2:50)
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clueey23 (40,189)
by R&B Junkie from Poland
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Well said! It's the media made us believe that it's all about the hit singles, chart success, number 1's and so on. It all went along with the music until the beginning of 21st century. Then the market changed, album sales decreased, and later, expansion of digital format changed it even for worse: now it's all about the singles (that still can be sold in millions of digital copies) not the albums. Look at numbers of copies sold in a single week: an album can be sold in 70k copies and can hit even #1 on Billboard 200. It's something that just could not happen over 10 years ago (and remember, TEOM couldn't be #1 album of the year with 4.7 million copies sold if it was released 10 years earlier). Where's the point? No one pay attention to album as a whole anymore. Single tracks are the base of music industry. And keep it in your mind, #Beautiful, that almost got no promotion, sold 1,000,000 copies in US alone. That's a success!Mariah never said she is the best vocalist. She never wanted to perform live so often. As I remember, she was criticized in early 90's for not giving live performances. That was the reason for releasing MTV Unplugged. She's always been, is, and will be, the studio singer. It is sad, but it seems like most of people pay attention only to melody. Please, take some time, and listen carefully to her songs. They are all well-produced and arranged, see "Touch My Body". A fun song that has seriously great vocal arrangement that no one can imitate. Period.
(Thursday 12 December 2013; 0:55)
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Today Show (40,188)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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I thought the interview was light and fun. Two woman gushing about Christmas, decorating, family festivities, Santa photos and sparkly shoes lol. Not everything is so serious.
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 23:26)
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To George Golden (40,187)
by Alex from England
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I completely disagree with you. Mariah should not make a dance album just to stay relevant. She is an artist that loves music and after being forced to make the kind of music she did for the first few years of her career I hope she will never release any material just to be on top of the charts. I think people should accept the fact that Mariah's golden age may be over, at least commercial-wise. Now if she gave me the most beautiful album ever and ended up not selling a lot, sure I'd be disappointed that it'd be overlooked but at the end of the day, music is what counts if you're a true "fan". Mariah is Mariah, she has her insecurities, she is a goofball, she likes to look as pretty as she can, she is "eternally 12", she's a girly girl etc etc, nothing new. But she is also a woman with depth (her lyrics throughout her life about personal matters should ring a bell), a mother, a wife etc etc. While I understand that some fans are worried about her everytime she opens her mouth and says something that you personally wouldn't have, it is starting to be exhausting to read so much negativity. Yes she has given what might be her worst performance ever, no she doesn't have the same voice as she used to (it's time to come to terms with it, it's been 15 years) but she can still give great performances, she can still make good music, she can still sing most singers under the table. If you can't handle this Mariah, just move on and learn the "art of letting go".
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 22:48)
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Will from England (40,186)
by Licia from USA
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I agree with you. I didn't think this interview was supposed to be all serious. I saw two people having a fun time. The interview was about Christmas, family, and AIWFCIY. That's what they pretty much talked about until Tamron asked to see the shoe closet (which was hilarious). I don't see bad things that everyone else is referring to. So the consensus is if Mariah is having fun in an interview she's drunk? Oh ok. Lol. 
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 22:34)
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Today interview (40,185)
by Will from England
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I'm watching it for the third time and I love it even more. Mariah didn't have to do diddly squat (i.e. waking up to receive the cameras, opening up a private area of the house). I didn't see any rambling. She gave long answers yes, but it's better than her sitting then and giving one word answers. To me, it was a very relaxed interview of two (I don't know if they're friends or whatever) women just talking, gossiping, catching, laughing and just playing up for the camera. If this was a Barbara Walter's interview or Oprah, yeah it would seem odd, but this wasn't one of those moments. Does Mariah have a drinking problem? Eh. I don't know, and neither do any of you to be quite fair. As for Rihanna getting her 13th number 1. I can't say I can name any of them, but food for thought: has she had Song Of The Decade twice in a row, or got the song that has had the longest run at number 1, or the talent of a songwriter/ singer/ producer/ composer rolled into one or a song that still tops the charts 20 years after it was initially released? Didn't think so. To be quite frank, Rihanna is nothing more than a fast food record resturant: she churns out single after single, that the public quickly eats up then forgets about. By musical standards, TAOLG is better and more soulful than anything Rihanna has ever released. Am I worried? No, because Mariah has got one thing that Rihanna doesn't and that's the ability to make records that can stand against time, not just a few months.
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 22:13)
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Lamb O Chop (40,184)
by Bill from the UK
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Hi. Yes I do know the difference between an excuse and a reason. A reason is based on something factual. The reason boiling water is scalding is because it is 100 degrees. An excuse is something based on something with no supportive evidence. Mariah's performance was bad because it was cold. Nope, not going to fly with me, I'm sorry. It was bad because she was either unprepared or did not care for her voice properly. Celine has been singing as long as Mariah has. They are around the same age and have been singing all their lives. Celine is sensible with her voice and as such it has been preserved relatively well. Mariah wasn't, and it hasn't. Believe me, as a fan of her music and a follower of her career, I hate seeing her go the way of Whitney. I'd love for Daydream tour vocals to be back, but it's not going to happen if she continues drinking in excess.
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 20:21)
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Today Show (40,183)
by Matthew from USA
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That interview was a mess. The reported had her hands full just trying to guide the conversation. I don't know what to say. Even when she doesn't have to sing, she still finds a way to botch it. She sounded like she had been drinking. She kept talking over the reporter. Maybe she does have a drinking problem. Obviously, she should stay away from live events until she gets better. She needs to just do pre-taped stuff that they can edit. When she does live events, she comes across as incoherent. People really started noticing on American Idol, then the Jimmy Fallon interview was really rambling, and now this. She was drinking on the Angie Martinez interview as well, but that one wasn't so bad. But yeah, the rambling is getting annoying. Make your point, then let the other person talk. Continuously talking while other people are talking just makes her look drunk and obnoxious. It was embarrassing when Matt Lauer said he wanted some of what they put in their morning coffee. Anyway, the Michael Buble thing is pre-taped, so let's hope that with some good editing, we can get a decent Mariah showing before the year is out.
(Wednesday 11 December 2013; 20:13)
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