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New efforts (38,382) by Zachary from Croatia I am not sad that the album is postponed but angry, because I am hungry for new music from her, and I mean a complete album. The same thing she said about MOAIA and it was her worst album ever. Just release the damn thing. Ugh. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 10:23)

Mariah Hip-Hop / Showbiz 411 (38,381) by Chase from USA I sincerely hope the journalist's suggestion that creative issues have arisen, specifically concerning Mariah's desire to go hip-hop, is false. Sadly, I believe it may be true. I doubt I was the only one who gave an eye roll when I saw Mariah in the studio with Young Jeezy. I liked Mariah's early experiments with hip-hop, particularly on Butterfly, but I believe it is a completely stale genre for her. I was already sick of it by Rainbow, and I have rarely enjoyed the hip-hop tracks on her post-Butterfly albums. The general public does not look to Mariah for hip-hop, and her career has never been the same since it became her go-to genre. I am over it and will not fork over the $15 for another stale album. I hope this speculation is false, and if it isn't, then Mariah, please get it together. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 6:19)

Be a pro (38,380) by Brad from USA Hi lambs. This message will not be popular, but sometimes certain things need to be said. While I will always love MC, a 23 year veteran artist does not announce a major album release and then reneg. As a pro, one gets it straight from the go and re-records what needs to be done before a release is ever announced. The album must be a complete mess, otherwise how does a last minute "duet" with Miguel (with an uninspired video) become the first cut that is released? What happened to songs like "Save the Day" and all the inspiration the twins supposedly brought to her writing? Louise McNally and her new management should have been on top of this a long time ago. Also, perhaps on a different matter, it's time for MC to stop having a "toast" for every event. It cheapens the import of such events and sends a poor message, especially as a mother, concerning alcohol consumption. Fail. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 5:22)

Will (38,379) by Licia from USA That picture is from TEOM era. I believe it was in a magazine. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 4:39)

Putting the varriage before the horse (38,378) by nikki from usa As "Showbiz" put it, that was his guess, not facts, of which he received none from the people he was trying to contact. I don't see why anyone would claim she had no ballads or big voiced songs when she clearly stated early on that's exactly what she had. We got pictures of her with R.Kelly from last year and she already stated she had plenty of "raw ballads". It may be possible there are conflicts about the dominating genre/tempo of the album. This already sounds like a re-run of Memoirs. She had worked with JD on 7 tracks, she worked with Timbaland, and so many others yet not one of those wound up on the record. It was all Mariah like the label wanted no doubt, and what the fans always claim they want, but then it bombed. Angels Cry couldn't even crack the Hot 100. Her cover only hit #60 and these are all Mariah-esque big ballads in the pop genre. (Isn't it ironic that what did make the top 10 was sassy hip-pop?) I think Mariah played ball with her label last time and she's not willing to do that again. I trust her to find the right "mix" of Mariah, fans, and showbiz blitz without sacrificing her artistic direction. After all, the last time she did that, we got Butterfly. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 4:22)

Three years? (38,377) by Edward from USA It used to take Mariah less than a year to produce great records like Daydream and Butterfly. Unless she's dropping off most of what she had recorded, three years is enough time to produce a decent album. I just hope that by rushing things, the album doesn't morph into another Rainbow or maybe Charmbracelet. People want to hear Mariah sing like she does on #Beautiful, the whispering is too much for many people. I hope Mariah hasn't lost her muse. Some people don't understand that record labels are in the business to make money. They don't make money from concerts. Mariah probably made more money from those two songs in Paris than what she will probably make from this album after everybody's paid off. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 2:50)

Stephen from UK (38,376) by Randy from USA I agree with you on the quality of the music, but honestly, TEOM was not seamless. Remember, when she brought an album, with Say Something as the first single to IDJ, LA Reid told her to go back and work with Jermaine and they wrote the three big hits together. I will say that MC is more than capable of putting a great album together by herself. Remember that Glitter was all her and we agree despite its poor sales performance it was an awesome album. I am not a big fan of #Beautiful, but I did like Memoirs a lot. So I trust her and IDJ should also. She needs to leave that label and most of you will agree on that, even though you may not agree with my viewpoint. That's all. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 1:49)

Showbiz 411 article (38,375) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom The latest article is pretty interesting. He's usually got the correct insider scoop on Mariah. If there are internal differences over the creative direction of the album, then Mariah should compare the reaction Triumphant got to #Beautiful. She's spent the best part of 3 years making this album. It's starting to get a bit ridiculous. Like I said before, I'm happy to wait for quality music, but if she and the label still can't decide on her creative direction after all these years, then Mariah is again in difficult territory. It seems her career has been marred by label infighting since 1997. The only time it was on point was during TEOM and the beginning of E=MC2. I agree with the label's view on Mariah's creative direction, but that's Mariah's decision to make. She's the artist and if she wants to make crap like Truimphant, then that's what she should do. Nevertheless, if she is an artist that wants to sell, then maybe she should compromise. For the record, I love hip hop and really enjoy when Mariah incorporates it into her music. She's just got a bit stale with it in recent years for me. Her ballad and mid tempo game has been better for me. (Wednesday 26 June 2013; 0:20)

Showbiz article picture (38,374) by Will from England When/where was that picture taken? I assume it is a photoshopped product. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 22:13)

Charmbracelet (38,373) by Billy from Greece I've been listening to "Glitter" and "Charmbracelet" lately. The former is really a blockbuster production: the sound is crispy, Mariah's vocal performances are startling, the grooves are banging and the songs are "immediate", namely, they capture your attention right away. On the other hand, "Charmbracelet" may be her most complex work and least accessible album upon first listen. The Rolling Stone review is quite on point saying that overlapping phrases and countermelodies complicate the listening experience, and (immediate) hooks are absent for the most part. While this is a reason why the listening experience feels "muffled", I always thought that it was also because the sound was not properly mixed. "Rainbow" and "Glitter" are pristine 'clear' in terms of sound, whereas "CB" is just too cluttered at times (f.i. "Yours", which really did not translate live), something that, apart from the "walls" of background vocals, has to do with the way the cd was mixed. On the other hand, songs with more basic skeletons, like "Clown", sounded great live. I still have a soft spot for this album, and I just adore "Lullaby" and "Subtle Invitation". (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 21:16)

Postponed again (38,372) by Blake from USA As bummed as I am about the push back, I am excited that Mariah is putting so much into this album. I hope a second single is released prior to the release date. I agree with the others on here that Mariah went back to the drawing board and thought about her legacy, especially being all about the voice, a songbird, and throw Idol into the mix with every female pop contestant trying to imitate her, she's definately has some great songs in store for us lambs. I only hope the world is ready and willing to give her another comeback. Nothing will top TEOM, but her legacy is about to have some moments, especially with her mentioning to Billboard last year how the album will have more ballads than usual. This is why we loved her to begin with. As far as a classics album, i.e. covers - Mariah is a songbird and she is damn good at writing. Don't request another Rod Stewart covers the classics album; it ain't going to happen. Jus saying, maybe a jazz vocal album in 10 years. Maybe. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 20:35)

Thoughts (38,371) by Anonymous from I think that she has decided that after both Triumphant and Almost Home failed and #Beautiful hit she's decided to go that route. She decided to scrap the Jermaine collaborations and scrapped the album and invited Miguel to Capri to see what else they could write together. I think she'll go with a retro throwback disc with songs like Stay The Night and #Beautiful. I really hope she does that it would be refreshing and classes up her image. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 19:46)

Bummer (38,370) by Gilbert from USA So I thought about this just now, so I came on to the messageboard to share. I will say I had a when I read that she is pushing her album back. However, I understand that she may be in that mode of the creative process, but what would suck is that what if we wait longer and they start taking songs out of the album. Not sure if she has a say in that or not, but that would really suck rocks if we wait and at the end of the project songs didn't make it on the album for whatever reason. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 18:11)

The way I see it (38,369) by Edward from USA It has always been my opinion that after Mariah tasted the waters with Triumphant, she definitely went back to the drawing board to change things up, and that's why she is recording new material and tweaking some songs she decided to keep. I am happy because that means she is really making sure the music is good. I just hope once the new date has been set, she doesn't push it again. I think Memoirs was affected seriously by pushing the album like two times. I was a little bit worried when I read that executives at at a listening party liked what they heard, not that they loved it. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 16:35)

#MC723 no more (38,368) by Musti from UK I can't say I'm not a little sad about the pushback. But I'm not disappointed, in fact I think it might be a good move to delay. The remix of #Beautiful hasn't come out yet, and I think she would want to release a second single before the album drops. July 23rd would have pushed that a little. Perhaps they're trying to give #Beautiful a fair shot at becoming top 10 (top 5 even) with the release of the remix. The delay should give them ample time to release a second single. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 16:17)

Licia (38,367) by enwar00 from usa Are you serious? That is hilarious and crazy. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 15:42)

Delay (38,366) by enwar00 from usa I mean, if I'm being honest, I'm less excited now. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 15:40)

MCA family (38,365) by Licia from USA I'm so happy that the MCA family is taking it so well. Good to see that there are fans that can actually see the bigger picture rather than just what they want. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 15:12)

Album delay (38,364) by Licia from USA People on twitter last night were having a fit because the album is delayed. Those fools were going too far and it made me ashamed to be a fan. They even started attacking Jermaine for no reason. I mean we are all disappointed, but it's not that deep. I'd rather wait to get a great album than get a rushed mediocre one. Twitter, Facebook , and other social media sites have sort of taken away the excitement of getting new music from your favorite artist. Before social media, if things didn't go as planned, we just sat there and waited. We didn't have all this whining and posting pics of our self with knives up to our throat (yes they posted crap like that on twitter). An album push back is nothing to be devastated about. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 15:09)

The push back (38,363) by Will from England I am a little disappointed, but I want the quality album that we all want and love, so I don't mind waiting a bit longer for it. Plus it would make sense since there's been little chatter about the album cover etc. If anything, this has made me more excited for the album, because it shows she really wants a quality and memorable album. I suspect it will be released near or around the beginning of the world tour, so she can promote the album at the same time. For any lambs who really are distraught by this, TEOM was pushed back and look what it turned into. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 13:29)

Delay (38,362) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom It's a shame that Mariah has to delay the album, but if it means great music, then it's fine by me. It also gives her time to get her marketing game on point. She's upping the promo, which is a good thing. She probably needs more time to finish the music and get the second single and accompanying video on point as well. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 12:46)

Postponed (38,361) by TJ from Norway The album is postponed. I was hoping for an album soon, but better music means a happier Tony. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 9:25)

The Art delayed (38,360) by Carol from Spain I'm not disapointed that she delayed the album. I'm sad. I'm anticipating this album like no other in 23 years of loving this woman and, for me, this was such a big blow that I'm actually crying as I write this post at 4 am. I did not see this coming. But Iunderstand, because she wants to give us her best, so I wait. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 6:40)

Meriweatherc86 (38,359) by Stacey from USA I get where you are coming from. I do. The song has been out for over two months, but as you know, the general public has a way of moving on to new songs quite quickly. With airplay stalling last week, we may see a drop. We may not, especially with MC slated to appear on many different shows in the coming weeks. I only want buzz to remain high in the weeks before the album drops. BTW: I like the album title too. On a side note: You think I jump the gun which comes across as negative. I disagree. I try to express my opinions with thoughtful reasons behind them. I just don't criticize something for no reason. Know what I mean? That's why I feel my thoughts fall in in the category of constructive criticism not negativity. Besides that whole conversation about promotion, etc with Edward and others was for fun. I think some fans need to not take things so seriously. Right? Right. At the end of the day, we all want the album to do well. Peace. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 6:23)

"The art of letting go" pushed back (38,358) by clueey23 from USA So the album will not be coming out on 7.23. This is why I'm glad she wasn't all over tv doing so much promotion too soon without a finished product. MC is an artist. And the creative process has to come full circle before you promote a project. (Tuesday 25 June 2013; 5:55)

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