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No need fot hating (36,526) by Zachary from Croatia I donīt think that Desiree had any attention to upset some people here. I understand why is all the fuss about but this is Mariah fan page and we are all writing on her paige and those names or other divas is on her paige... making respect to her. God bless all. (Tuesday 16 October 2012; 10:31)

Mariah's money (36,525) by nikki from usa I read that Mariah has a net worth of 500 million and crunched the numbers, that's really accurate. The amazing thing is, this is off music sales alone (albums, singles, videos/dvds), not even including concert tours or anything else she's done. Assuming the info is correct, an exec said a vocalist of Mariah's caliber earns $2 per album sold plus .50 cents for writing and another .50 for producing. That's $3 per album sold. So, Music Box earned her 72 million in album sales alone and Daydream 60 million. Then take into account songs she's written for others: Faith Hill, Allure, Trey Lorenz for MIB soundtrack. On top of tours, beauty lines, ringtones, and unknown to most people in the West - Mariah's been doing commercials over in Asia since '91. If Mariah never made another dollar again as long as she lived, she'd still be earning over 8 million a year in interest. As rich as MC is, by comparison, she really doesn't spend a lot. So many celebs buy a bunch of houses or huge mansions with lots of cars. Mariah's most expensive space was a $9 million apartment. Think of that compared to Micheal Jackson's Neverland and MC's penny pinching. Even with a full makeup crew, properties, vehicles, traveling, and shopping sprees, Mariah spends less than 3 million a year. In music, even MC's "flops" are still worth millions to record companies. No matter what she does, how she ages, or who's promoting her - this woman will always be able to make music. (Tuesday 16 October 2012; 7:44)

Right on point, Davey J (36,524) by Stacey from USA Right on with your thoughts, Davey J. I couldn't have said it better myself. Some tend to dwell on the opinions of others way too much. It is just her opinion, not fact. Nothing to lose sleep over, lol. Go ahead and pop in that favorite MC record of yours and move on. Keep it light, folks. Things ain't that deep. Peace. (Tuesday 16 October 2012; 7:18)

Seriously? (36,523) by Davey J from USA I think you guys should cut Desiree some slack. Her list was clearly not in order of who is the best at anything. Dolly Parton, Madonna, and Anita Baker are nowhere close to each other in audience, voice, sound, etc, etc, but they were 6th, 7th, and 8th on her list. She was clearly just listing her favorite people in no particular order with an emphasis on what quality each brought to the table that was more unique than anyone else. Unlucky for her it came across the way it did, but I think she's gotten the point and no longer needs to be bullied. She came up with an excuse to defend her post, because you guys are being unreasonable, and unfortunately it backfired. So she was misunderstood and I think we've all been there and can relate and it's time to move on. (Monday 15 October 2012; 22:35)

Desiree (36,522) by Will from England Dahling, your message didn't get onto the messageboard by your computer simply shutting down. Unless of course it can click "submit" and "I agree to the doodaa" as well as check and re-submit, whilst shutting down then that's quite a feat for your computer to do! Your message even starts with "My Top 12", how can anyone interpret that in any other way? (Monday 15 October 2012; 11:22)

Lol (36,521) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia Desiree made a huge mistake when she posted her top 12 female singers. Clearly, her main intention was to evoke emotional responses from other people. As it turned out, everyone started to wonder why she was even here. She hated having her sanity put into question so she made up a lame excuse. How did she hit the submit button? I guess her computer has the ability to draw power even when turned off. (Monday 15 October 2012; 10:03)

Desiree: Aplogy not accepted! (36,520) by Edward from USA We don't accept your lame apology. I don't know how by your computer shutting down on you Mariah ended up at the last place on your list. So, you've been vanquished. Lol. (Monday 15 October 2012; 3:20)

My list (36,519) by Badr from USA 1. Mariah Carey 2. Mariah Carey 3. Mariah Carey 4. Mariah Carey You get the point. (Monday 15 October 2012; 2:59)

Let's get it straight (36,516) by Desiree from USA First of all my, computer shut down on me before I was able to completely say what I have to say. What I meant was, these twelve women changed the music industry and to be quite clear, this is not my top 12 list. I was explaining what each other did and wanted to get people opinions on these ladies and there titles given to them by society. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 18:53)

My number 1 (36,515) by Stella from Greece My number 1 will always be my Mariah, simply because there is no other voice compared to hers and there will never be another (past or present) voice better than hers. Fact. Also because Mariah, unlike other divas, is blessed with an enormous songwriting talent, great live performance skills and a ravishing beauty and genuinely good personailty. But since we doing Top 12's lol, here is mine: 1. Mariah Carey 2. Patti LaBelle 3. Celine Dion 4. Shirley Bassey 5. Shirley Murdock 6. Aretha Franklin 7. Roberta Flack 8. Dionne Warwick 9. Donna Summer 10. Kelly Clarkson 11. Adele 12. Cyndi Lauper (Sunday 14 October 2012; 15:31)

Lol (36,514) by Licia from USA I think Desiree just wants to ruffle ya'll feathers a bit. Every site has that one person who goes from site to site saying how much they think this person is better than so and so. Yet they keep going to the site of the person they dislike. Just laugh and pay her no mind. Lol. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 13:24)

In response to Desiree's "Dozen Divas" list (36,513) by Anonymous from I'm offering a baker's dozen. 1. Mariah (who else?) 2. Olivia Newton-John 3. Karen Carpenter 4. Gladys Knight 5. Janet Jackson 6. Sarah Brightman 7. Nivea 8. Nicolette Larson 9. Julie London 10. Stephanie Mills 11. Gogi Grant 12. Yuri 13. Blu Cantrell (Sunday 14 October 2012; 8:47)

Tobby and Licia re: "Charmbracelet" (36,512) by Anonymous from I agree with the both of you. To me, "Charmbracelet" is the lamb's album. This is the best album Mariah ever put out. Here's a brief description of her albums and why I feel the way I do: "Mariah Carey" - good album, but made to be commercially successful. "Emotions" - basically "MC part ll". "Musicbox" - showing signs of in depth writing, but not quite a "with feeling" album. "Daydream" - trying something a little different, but not heartfelt. "Butterfly" - her "I'm free from that jerk, now what?" album. "Rainbow" - Yawn, wake me when it's over. "Glitter" - shades of "CB" starting to shine through, because it was semi-autobiographical, but a lot of filler. "Charmbracelet" - Mariah's songwriting masterpiece. Her true feelings of that time in her life and what she learned while she was going through it. She shared her pain, healing, and inspiration with her lambs because she knew her lambs would get it, understand it, and benefit from it. Part of her healing was through us (just as we have used her to help us heal). The greatest gift an entertainer can give their fans is to believe in them. Mariah proved she believed in her lambs with "CB". To continue: "TEOM" - back to the commercialism, which I will admit was a good call. "E=MC2" - "TEOM" part ll". "Memoirs . . . " - about as close as she got to "CB" from a feelings standpoint, but the writing was less than spectacular ("Windex"?, come on). So there you go. My opinions. Enjoy the day everyone. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 8:09)

Desiree (36,511) by Nattalie from USA Man, I don't even know who my number 12 is. Why are you here? I think it's kind of dumb to be at your 12th singers fan board. I have my top 5 line up and only go to two message boards out of all the people I like. Now if you are visiting your 12th and all the above maybe you should consider meeting people outside of message boards, because all this stuff aint healthy to be on the computer/phone all the time. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 7:44)

Top 12 female singers (36,510) by mike from usa This page is about Mariah, not Whitney Houston, so go to her page. Mariah should be number 1, not the last one. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 6:28)

Desiree (36,509) by Geezy from USA by way of NYC As this messageboard for anyone post I find it pretty odd that on your list of favorite female singers you would post on your least favorites forum. As reading most of your recent post you sound like a fly by night fan, meaning when times are on a high you ride the wave and when times are tough you follow the rest of the world and kick Mimi's back in. Honestly, we as the MCA community don't need fans like yourself posting here. This is a forum for people who love and respect Mariah the artist for her great work and contributions to pop music and it's culture. We may not like all her choices, songs, ect, but at least we give her her just due and she reigns at the top of our list rather then the bottom. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 5:28)

Desiree: You've got to be kidding! (36,508) by Edward from USA Desiree, you got some nerves. I don't believe in picking on anybody, but give us a break. Not only you placed Mariah at the end of your list, but you don't even acknowledge her legacy and voice. You might as well put Diane Warren there too, right? That's ridiculous. I love Whitney and Celine, but I'm first and foremost a Mariah's fan. So, I think you should take your message and take it to a Whitney Houston messageboard. I"m pretty sure they'll love you there. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 4:03)

Number 12? Lol (36,507) by RadChad from United States At this point I'm convinced she's just bassing in the attention she gets from her opposing views. It must be addictive. I mean, why else would anyone on this board put MC last on their "best" list? (Sunday 14 October 2012; 3:34)

Stephen (36,506) by RibbonB from USA Lol. I wasn't going to say anything, but I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure a Whitney board would appreciate her list. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 2:34)

Desiree (36,505) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I wouldn't go on the messageboard of my twelfth favourite female artist. Perhaps this isn't the right forum for you. Just saying. (Sunday 14 October 2012; 2:08)

My Top 12 female singers (36,504) by Desiree from USA 1. Whitney Houston - The voice 2. Celine Dion - Love ballads 3. Donna Summer - Disco queen 4. Ella Fitzgerald - The first lady of song 5. Sade - Jazz songbird 6. Anita Baker - Soul songstress 7. Dolly Parton - Country queen 8. Madonna - Risk taker 9. Pat Benater - Rock goddess 10. Sarah Brightman - Modern opera queen 11. Judy Garland - Broadway/movie queen 12. Mariah Carey - Song writer queen (Saturday 13 October 2012; 22:17)

Triumphant-ly No.1 (36,503) by Lainsky from Philippines Now that this single is making noise on the dance chart, I hope IDJ will promote more the no-rap-pop-ly Triumphant (I guess this is the remix) version. A new video and a promo single (discounted price will do since they are doing this with MC's singles eversince) plus singing this version on her every show guesting will make the public notice it and perhaps buy or request it. I still believe it's a great single, this version. (Saturday 13 October 2012; 13:31)

Rihanna and Obama (36,502) by Jamie from UK I think Rihanna can sing, I've heard her live a few times. Sure she's not the best singer or anywhere near as good as Mariah in her prime or Mariah now (well maybe a bit nearer lol), but she's decent enough. If you won't agree that she's decent, well she at least has potential. Just type "Rihanna can sing" on Youtube and listen for yourself. So Obama has Nicki Minaj on his iPod?? Lol. I wonder which songs. (Saturday 13 October 2012; 11:02)

Triumphant/Obama on MiMi (36,501) by Ryan from the Philippines Congratulations Mariah, Triumphant has finally made it to the top of the Billboard chart. It may not be the Top 100, but still it's a feat. I said it before, they should have ventured more on the remixes, especially the Vintage Mix. On the other hand, I won't be surprised if Pres. Obama chooses Mariah over Nicki. I honestly like some of her music, but I think she was just so disrespectful to Mariah. She just bursted out like a child to the point where she looked like a real loser for not handling MC's "highness" lol. (Saturday 13 October 2012; 2:06)

So sick of #1 talk / Rhianna / divas (36,500) by Nattalie from USA I don't care how many number 1's Mariah Carey came out with. I don't care how many Rhianna came out with. A number 1 has no meaning at all on how amazing or how talented you are. You know how many singers there that have great talent and have no number ones. So if Rhianna gets 25 number ones, do yo think that is going to convince me that she is better than Mariah? Like I said, it just shows how are world of music has gone down hill. I'm sorry, it's not Rhianna's voice that gets her to where she is. It is her personality and looks and willingness to do anything it takes to get to the top, weither it's wearing whorish clothes or shaving her head bald or tattooing Chris Brown on her forehead. Glad Mariah never felt the need to do that. Oh and lets all talk about the divas. I guess Patti Labelle is a nobody since she probably doesn't have a billion number ones or all the other gospel singers out there. What about Aretha? Stevie Wonder who can play any instrument? Do these people have to sell hot cakes to be the best? What if these people came out with these same songs we know of today but they never hit anything? Does that mean they are nothing? (Saturday 13 October 2012; 0:42)

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