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Re: Go to Mimi on your contacts and press delete (81,215) (81,219) by Bill from the UK When did she display her range? Please send me the video and if it's not a performance with lip syncing, playback, dubbing, and Mary Ann picking up the slack I'll stand corrected. It's time we all addressed the elephant in the room. (Friday 2 March 2018; 09:23)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,214) (81,218) by Special K from USA Yeah well at the same time Edward those who may feel a certain performance sounded good or wasn't that bad shouldn't be called delusional or crazy. Not to say that happened in the case but it happens. I just think we as fans sometimes way over scrutinize every damn thing Mariah does. I'm guilty of it too. (Friday 2 March 2018; 01:38)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,212) (81,217) by Special K from USA Meh, to me it wasn't that bad. (Friday 2 March 2018; 01:25)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,214) (81,216) by Hilton from USA I think we all can talk about anything on this board, as we all always have. I think the issue is, sometimes, the opinions and comments come across rude and heartless. Sometimes racist even and disrespectful. Say what you will, there's plenty of times MC has broken into song randomly and it was a nice little moment. Now, back to what I was stating earlier, I also feel, when reading these comments, topics, whatever, that some people think that Mariah owes this and that, and she needs to do this and that. Open your eyes, she ain't gonna do nothing she doesn't wanna do, so get over it. Who cares what other artists do? Mariah is fine. So many little things get blown out of proportion and half the time it's really not that serious, seriously. Love you MC. Edward I understand how you feel. And yes I agree that maybe she could've just obliged and sang a quick line for us but unfortunately she didn't want to. It's okay. Don't let anyone ruffle your feathers. From what I've seen, she really doesn't like to be put on the spot, and if this is true, I respect that. Other artists don't mind it and that's cool too, right? She doesn't need to be constantly scrutinized for every little thing. Anywho, carry on everyone. Just my rant. (Friday 2 March 2018; 00:22)

Go to Mimi on your contacts and press delete (81,215) by AlwaysLoveForMariah from Usa Andrew seriously you must be the most miserable person in the world, the fact that you come to a fan message board everyday and simply hate must suggest that you ain't very happy with your own life. Mariah is very well aware of people like you, hence why she says "true lambily". Let me give you the greatest advice [you] will ever get, go to Mimi on your mind and press delete and enjoy her past albums. Control environment? I think since 2015 that has been the stripped down version of "Thank god I found you". Where Mariah sang her heart out night after night. Bill, you do know that Mariah displayed her 5 octave range just last year. Edward, Patti doesn't have a complex voice like Mariah. Also she sang for him last year and sounded amazing, she gave us low notes, middle notes and high notes. Also I don't know why you guys are expecting Mariah from the 90s, it's not like any of the male legends are half as good as they used to be like Elton john, Bob Dylan, Bono etc. Hell even Adele who's had less than 10 years of active career, has major issues and can't even tour with her fragile voice. Mariah is working hard on her album so she probably wanted a night off from singing. Just because you are a singer doesn't mean you have to sing at every command. Like if Mariah invited Floyd to a party and asked him to go in a ring to fight for charity, he would be so confused and probably turn down the offer. (Thursday 1 March 2018; 23:48)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,212) (81,214) by Edward from USA Mariah avoids singing unless she can control the environment. It. Is. A. Fact. Give Patti a microphone at 73, and she would turn you into Jesus even if you're Donald Trump. So, when somebody brings this point, I don't think it's about negativity. Every singer have their good and bad days, but Mariah seems to be in a perpetual bad-day mode when it comes to a simple request. When you're one of the greatest voices of all times and you're requested to sing a 3-second line but you're not sure, just decline, period. But if you're going to give it try, stop with the smoke and mirrors. I don't know why talking about these things kind of automatically turns you into a goat or something. There's a difference between disagreeing expressing why you disagree as opposed to implying that those who dare to talk about this topic are not good fans. (Thursday 1 March 2018; 21:08)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,212) (81,213) by Bill from the UK The tell for me was when she did carpool karaoke. Everyone else goes for it, lets loose and has fun. MC just sat there statuesque and mumbled a few lines in the half octave she has left. (Thursday 1 March 2018; 12:02)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,211) (81,212) by Andrew from UK This is "singing"? No, it isn't. It's Mariah doing one or two lines and avoiding singing a song with the usual redirection and bluster, mumbling to herself, nervously trying to look attractive and make jokes. Tell me people's eyes didn't roll into the back of their heads when she held the microphone towards Mayweather and said, "We know you can sing." Tell me people's collective thought was not, "Yes, Mariah, but can you?" I do not mean to be facetious, whilst admittedly sounding so, but it is a perfectly valid point raised. When does Mariah actually sing? When was the last time she had a microphone in a non-controlled environment and let loose? Most singers with a microphone and an audience will sing a song for just the entertainment and fun of it. Mariah won't. And from her usual reactions it does seem to look like Mariah can't. I thought singers liked to sing? (Thursday 1 March 2018; 10:01)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,210) (81,211) by Special K from USA Very slow.... yawns, besides, Mariah sang at Floyd's birthday party last year and sounded pretty good. Maybe this year she just wanted to get faded and have fun. (Thursday 1 March 2018; 00:15)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,209) (81,210) by Hilton from USA News is very slow I see. Keep them talking Mariah. Carry on. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 23:37)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,208) (81,209) by Edward from USA Her voice being unpredictable meaning she doesn't know whether a cock-a-doodle-doo or a beautiful note would come out. As for having everything "tightly controlled", that includes the right environment, with the possibility of some lipping to some prerecorded track, the usual smoke and mirrors. More than gone, I think her voice is kind of shot. At every turn she's presented with the opportunity to shine with just a little bit of singing, she refuses. Very different to this Mariah. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 22:33)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,200) (81,208) by Andrew from UK Not sure I understand "her confidence" being gone. Her voice is gone, you mean. "Control every aspect" means lip sync, no? Mariah Carey is seemingly a singer who no longer sings because she can not. Watching her try to bluster her way out of stuff is cringe. I actually think Jamie Foxx knows she won't do it, judging from the expressions, and he is taking the piss out of her and having fun at her expense. Has Mariah become the desperate washed up lush at the party? It's sad to watch. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 21:08)

Re: Roc and Roe are really smart (81,188) (81,207) by Lila from United States That's so funny because I've seen the page Ribbon linked before. There was a back and forth going on under one of the pics at the time I saw it so I stayed and read the comments with my imaginary popcorn, as you do. Whoever was running it was holding their own and eventually just got blocked by the other person because after a few minutes the whole convo disappeared and the user was laughing about it. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 18:08)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,201) (81,206) by Lila from United States True. Plus it was just a party. No one was expecting a big performance but like Edward said and I agree, her confidence is more than likely shot. Therefore, if she can't control every aspect, she's not even going to try. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 17:51)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,203) (81,205) by Licia from USA I agree it would be a great song for her to cover. I love the original. Would have been nice to hear her take on the song. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 16:51)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,202) (81,204) by B from USA I didn't have my headphones on and just assumed it was her because the video said it was her. I just assumed it was a poorly shot video from someone in attendance. However, listening to it with my headphones on it's clearly she only sang yeah or something like that. Still a cute moment. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 14:11)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,195) (81,203) by B from USA I just thought it was a cute Mariah moment. I had never heard the song before and now it's stuck in my head. Wonder who's decision it was to play it, Mariah's or Jamie's? Mariah should interpolate it into a new song for her new album. Mariah's sampling has also been inspired. She's the female Puffy. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 14:09)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,193) (81,202) by Licia from USA Yeah that wasn't her singing. She barely sang the little of the song that they finally got her to do. I found it hilarious that she tried to play it off by saying "Run me my check motherf*cker", but then I got sad when she really didn't try. Drunk Mariah would have done it and not cared. That drunk video of her singing Heartbreaker is one of my all time favorite performances. Lol. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 13:20)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,200) (81,201) by Bill from the UK Even I could sing a chorus of a song reasonably well, and I don't have a God given talent like Mariah. There's that crazy theory that the real Mariah died in 1996 and was replaced by a look-a-like that couldn't sing half as well. I'm starting to believe it lol. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 12:33)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,199) (81,200) by Edward from USA I guess than since her voice got so unpredictable, she wouldn't even try. I saw her deflecting by pretending to be talking to him. For a moment I thought she was the one singing, but she only uttered a faint yeah or something. It's so sad to see she doesn't have any confidence in her unless everything is controlled one way or the other. Of course the confidence she used to have came from the fact that she had full control over her voice back then. I can understand why she wouldn't sing a whole song, but a single line just for fun, how bad or hard could it be for one of the best voices of all time? (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 04:12)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,197) (81,199) by Andrew from UK Nope, William, you're perfectly right. She, quite apparently, does her usual thing of trying desperately to avoid singing live when requested to with protest and bluster. Propoganda machine is out again. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 00:39)

Re: The A, B, 90s albums and The Disappearance of Mimi (81,190) (81,198) by Bill from the UK Sweatpants are all that fit me right now. (Wednesday 28 February 2018; 00:30)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,193) (81,197) by Bill from the UK Am I deaf or did she not actually sing anything except a faint "yeah" somewhere in the middle? The vocal track you hear is not Mariah. (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 21:30)

Re: Golden Cannon and Roc & Roe (81,186) (81,196) by Andrew from UK Cultural appropriation? (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 20:31)

Re: Mariah singing at Floyd Mayweather's birthday bash (81,193) (81,195) by MusicfanJ from Germany Just one note, but it sounds very good. I discovered "Don't stop the music" three weeks ago on YouTube (was searching for some 80ies funk) and now I see Mariah on the clip. That's no coincidence. I wonder what she said to him. (Tuesday 27 February 2018; 19:57)

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