Messageboard

Only registrated members can post messages. Registration is free.
LOG IN REGISTER

Did Mariah betray her gift or did it betray her? (80,552) by John from USA
After all this hullabaloo about Mariah being back in the studio with a wine glass in hand, I just came across an interview circa Butterfly CD era, where she says she has to try to take care of her voice, but also admits how she fancies herself a drink: "I like myself a little glass of champagne every now and then." Makes me wonder: did Mariah betray her gift or does she feel betrayed by her gift?
When she was just starting, she used to talk about her voice and her songwriting as gifts that brought her new opportunities in life. Makes me wonder if she just stopped caring or this is her reacting to how her gift abandoned her. She used to be harder on herself too, like when she would comment on how she would've sung a song differently if she had a chance to because she wasn't satisfied with the vocals. I just wonder, because there have been times, if she feels she has something to prove and discipline herself enough (or when forced to, such as when she was pregnant), her voice does seem stronger.
(Monday 22 January 2018; 15:53)
Re: The Lambily braincell (80,546) (80,551) by Lila from United States
"It's not the picture itself that causes issues, it's the possibility that Mariah is about to embark on the same tired, worn-out routine that she has pulled for years, and the picture is a marker for this." Basically. If Mariah didn't have the history that she has, so many wouldn't be so skeptical. However, she does and this picture feels like the demarcation of the same old same old. A picture is a worth a thousand words; they communicate. No picture will ever completely be just a picture. When there are pictures that show Mariah acting as the Mariah XYZ person wants her to be, it's never just a picture then. I stick by my original assessment of it. It says "I came to play around," not "I came to put in work". It's not like it's my fault that Mariah continually chooses to poorly present herself or misrepresent herself at inopportune times. I can only say what I ascertain from it. Again, though, hopefully for the ones hyped about it, she's working on something seriously and that's also good.
(Monday 22 January 2018; 14:22)
Re: Cover songs for new album 2018 (80,548) (80,550) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
My favourite MC cover is "Bringing On The Heartache", so my hope would be she covers something completely unexpected. A Mariah version of "Black Hole Sun" or "Lightning Crashes" anybody?
(Monday 22 January 2018; 12:41)
Re: New album title (80,516) (80,549) by Tevin from USA
Hey Randy I agree with the album titles lol, except for the E=MC2 bared one, it should be called "Migrate should have been a single".
(Monday 22 January 2018; 04:22)
Cover songs for new album 2018 (80,548) by Bobby A from United States
I would love to see MC do her rendition of Whitney's "You Give Good Love". Her present tone and range is perfect for the song. "Adore" by Prince would be another great cover song for her current tone and range. And my final cover song is "Love Under New Management" by Miki Howard. Just to hear MC sing. "Experience is a good teacher" would take my breath away.
(Monday 22 January 2018; 01:34)
Timbaland (80,547) by T from USA
Timbaland is the only producer I am dying for MC to work with at this point. He can simultaneously tap into that late '90s R&B and still it sound fresh for 2018. I think his work would please both the people who want a modern day Butterfly, a throwback to the Golden age and something she's never done before, all at the same time. I would take a twelve song album where Timbo produces half and Marc Shaiman does the other half (Walter Afanasieff would be asking too much). Now I know there are some who think she should go with all new people for a totally new sound but didn't she try that with MIAM? Hitboy, Mike Will, Miguel, Darkchild... and none of them could score a hit with Mimi. I think she should bring it back to basics.
(Monday 22 January 2018; 01:14)
The Lambily braincell (80,546) by Andrew from UK
Who has the lambily braincell at the moment? Stop hogging it and give other lambs a go. It's not the picture itself that causes issues, it's the possibility that Mariah is about to embark on the same tired, worn-out routine that she has pulled for years, and the picture is a marker for this. "Is negativity going to help?" It's called criticism and it's used to point out where people are going wrong and try to steer them down the right path. The alternative is to do what the lambs do. Lamb Bible, Book of Mistakes: "Thou shalt stick thy fingers in thine ears, pretendeth everything is okay and praise the Lord, our Mimi. And upon everything going tits up, thou shalt decry Mimi a victim of other people. So says the word. And I shall send unto thee a prophet, Terna, who shall teach you exactly how deep you can get those fingers into those there ears. For being nuts is fine. As long as you believe. So says the word."
(Monday 22 January 2018; 01:10)
Lack of creativity or lack of care (80,545) by Marissa from USA
I don't think Mariah's creativity is gone as much as it's been the issue of her throwing at her recent music and not having the passion that she used to. I don't think "I Don't", "Infamous" or "Infinity" were examples of Mariah really busting her behind to make a hit and failing, I just think she made them halfheartedly out of boredom and it showed. The issue is what is Mariah passionate about at this point in her life? I don't believe that this woman went from having all platinum and diamond albums and #1 hits to completely losing her music ear and only being capable of putting out mediocrity. That can't be it. The issue is lack of passion, not talent. The question is does she feel strongly about anything? What is she doing to stay grounded and connected with the common humanity that she shares with all people? If the answer is nothing, that will be reflected in the music. I don't know exactly where her head is at, but I'm hoping that her simplifying her life and cutting out toxic influences has/will help her to find what's important again in life and put that in the music. I found the fact that she wrote something as meaningful as "The Star" during the nightmare era pleasantly surprising so maybe she actually will deliver the meaningful songs that we want this time around.
(Monday 22 January 2018; 00:00)
Studio pic (80,544) by Myles from CT, USA
So excited to see her back in the studio. Mariah has always been cursed with the general public and herself wanting to create the past. Always hoping for a Butterfly part 2. It will never happen. She needs something fresh and different. TEOM was a great example of that. Don't look back Mariah, create something new and refreshing. Don't look back Mariah and run far from the past. We want something new.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 23:16)
Re: It's just a photo (80,536) (80,543) by Susana from USA
Billy, I totally agree with you.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 22:12)
Re: Studio pic (80,529) (80,542) by Hilton from USA
Yes Special K. I can't believe all of this. It is unbelievable. I'm still glad I posted about it but wow, this is unreal.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 17:16)
Re: It's just a photo (80,536) (80,541) by Hilton from USA
Preach.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 17:13)
Re: Studio pic (80,529) (80,540) by enwar00 from usa
But Special K, look how she's posed. And she's holding a glass of wine. Wine I say. I just can't.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 16:52)
Re: What a difference a few weeks makes (80,525) (80,539) by Bill from the UK
Indeed. Memo to Roc Nation Mariah Carey Division: No more pictures with a wine glass. Yikes.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 13:29)
Article: Mariah Carey set for comeback with "Hope Street" single (80,538) by Dennis from Miami, FL
And where is all that I wonder?
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 12:47)
Studio picture (80,537) by Terna from Nigeria
I'm excited to see her back doing what she loves most which is creating new music. Just glad she's still here and going on strong, look around many of the greats are gone but she's still here, been through alot but she's still the Mariah Carey I fell in love with. Besides I'm yet to be disappointed with any studio album she's released so far, when does she not deliver? Lyrically, Musically, vocally and production wise always on point everytime. I sense a "Butterfly" hybrid cooking.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 12:12)
It's just a photo (80,536) by Billy from Greece
I can't even know what to say about the flood of commentary following one simple photo of Mariah in the studio. For crying out loud, it's just a photo of her in the studio. Someone wrote she's a mess. Where's the mess exactly? Just because she's holding a glass of wine she's having a breakdown or something? Or does this mean she's not taking music seriously? What do you think music making is, going to school? Do I have to remind you of legends like Marvin Gaye who wrote masterpieces while being stoned? And I'm not even implying that MC is or should be stoned to write music, but do you really know what exactly has gone behind the scenes behind some of your favorite hits? My goodness.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 12:07)
The waning creativity (80,535) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Although she was not that much of a statement artist, Mariah at her prime still had something to say. She was young, eager to prove herself and full of many ideas that were rarely original or risque, but fresh nonetheless. And then life happened and she eventually found it more challenging to find new things to write and sing about. So, like most artists do, she stuck to love and relationship themes. Nothing wrong about that - Mariah has a way of looking at relationships from angles that aren't commonly explored, or if they are common, she has a way of presenting her ideas in a way that's not as cliched as other artists would usually do. At times the results were inspired or at least interesting (It's A Wrap, Betcha Gon' Know, I Wish You Well, Faded, etc.) and sometimes they were just banal or at least let down by the production (You're Mine, More Than Just Friends, Infinity, Infamous, etc.). I think this is normal especially for legacy artists. Even Madonna, the very definition of a statement artist, has shown signs of this. Like Mariah, she hasn't really produced a creatively noteworthy album that could be considered a classic since 2005. Madonna, though, is more disciplined, and the one thing that hasn't changed about her through the years is that she's always on the lookout for the new sound, the next big thing and always wants to collaborate with producers she hasn't worked with in the past, whereas Mariah relies mostly on familiarity and the comfort it gives her, sticking to the same ole people, therefore resulting in pretty much just updated versions of songs from TEOM and MOAIA. But creativity is still innate in them, and while MIAMTEC and Rebel Heart were mostly steps in the right direction, they are still very much capable of coming up with another masterpiece. It just that these days, those are harder to come by because the music industry is so saturated, and now more than ever, it takes much more than the usual experimentation to stand out and be recognized. Janet makes me hopeful for this possibility. If she can come back strong with Unbreakable after back-to-back misses of 20 Y.O. and Discipline, (yes, Damita Jo was a great album) then Mariah can do it too. She just needs to focus and have a clear vision of what she wants, as well as work with newer, lesser known producers.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 09:29)
Re: What a difference a few weeks makes (80,525) (80,534) by Shezz from Pk
Seriously. Some people are collectively having a cow because Mariah dressed up. Have you just met her?
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 06:27)
The Four - Chyenne Elliott (80,533) by RibbonB from USA
I finally checked out the new reality talent show and its just OK. The most interesting thing was Dionne Warwick's grand daughter was a contestant. She really reminds me of a young Mariah both in voice and looks. The resemblance is uncanny, even to the big curly brown hair. Chyenne Elliott is already off of the show, but it will be interesting to see how her career develops. She doesn't look exactly like Mimi of course, but enough do that she could be perfect to play young Mimi if a movie is made within the next several years.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 05:40)
Re: What a difference a few weeks makes (80,525) (80,532) by Hilton from USA
Thank you Gee. My sentiments in a nut shell.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 04:56)
Studio pic (80,531) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
Obviously this picture is from Thursday night as it is the same outfit she wore when she went out for a solo outing that evening.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 03:51)
Re: What a difference a few weeks makes (80,525) (80,530) by Special K from USA
Folks freaking out over a damn studio pic. Smh.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 03:10)
Studio pic (80,529) by Special K from USA
All this bitchass whinning over a damn studio pic. Is this the same Mariah that everybody was praising about two weeks ago? It's a freaking studio pic people. A studio pic. That's all it is. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just a studio pic.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 02:53)
Hello everyone (80,528) by Haiji Toro from USA
It's been a long while since I last posted but always great to see how my MC lamily are doing. I'd love to comment and drop some opinions off as I'm here. First off, I'm so happy that our girl/lady is back on track. She's looking amazing and her shine is so genuinely illuminated. Her added latest achievements are so well deserved. My suggestion for an album title would be that it strongly represents each song on the album but not the same name as any song, we'll maybe an interlude. I'd love for a concept album. So I'll try to make this a bit quick but detailed enough to also see that "vision". Ok, the album will reintroduce MC for those that may not know her story. The album would start with an intro with a baby laughing and a music box playing in the background with a few of her whistles from afar. The beginning tracks will tell her story through her lyrics and interpolations of certain genres she grew up listening to. An updated celtic sound, representing her Irish roots. Wind blowing from afar, her mother's operatic vocals, a quick flash of a sampled "The Wind Called Mariah", little girl running through a field towards church for saving, very dramatic with orchestra. Following then, a track with gospel feel and soulful lyrics and sound about childhood drama. Each song after will represent a changing moment in her life. Lyrics will speak about that moment introducing a new sound using elements of the music she listened to at that moment, ie: a fun rock track about her job hopping to pay for her dreams with elements of the movie soundtrack Grease, and so on. Song titles with words that represent her vocabulary and meaningful terms, like "Echo", "Mirage", "Darling". Which the album title would be perfectly named, "Carey the Moments". I actually came up with this idea 2 years ago and wrote it out with more details and ended up with about 22 tracks lol. Still haven't finished it. Hope you all liked my ideas and maybe even saw a similar vision. Prayers, blessings and love to all.
(Sunday 21 January 2018; 02:27)

MORE MESSAGES

Only registrated members can post messages. Registration is free.
LOG IN REGISTER



If you want to leave a message, there are a few rules you must follow:
1. This is a Mariah Carey messageboard, so the message must be related to Mariah Carey.
2. Only messages in English will be posted. And please try to write understandable English, with the proper use of dots and capitals.
3. Messages with all capitals will be ignored.
4. Messages that are insulting (to Mariah, other artists or members of this messageboard) will not be posted.
The webmaster has the right to refuse any message he doesn't like.
© MCArchives 1998-2026 (28 years!)
NEWS
MESSAGEBOARD