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Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,407) (80,414) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Noted, first off, I realized I have been rather harsh in my last post on this subject. It wasn't in any way to belittle or downplay Mariah's legacy. I am aware that she is a trendsetter and that her contributions are still ubiquitous in today's music. So if anyone was offended, then I apologize - that wasn't my intention at all. However, I also disagree with your remark on Madonna's musical impact, especially for a woman who's widely considered the biggest and most influential female artist in music history. As much as I value Mariah's contributions to music, it was Madonna who paved the way for what today's female singers are able to get away with today yet take for granted. Even Mariah acknowledged it in a past interview. Pretty much every female in music that has come after Madonna (even the latter material of those that have come before her), owes something from her. Her contributions to pop culture go further than the visual aspect, her penchant for shock tactics or her philanthropy and activism. Sure, she did not have a signature sound. She leaped from genre to genre. But she brought something different to the conventions of those genres. She made out of them viable, indelible pop classics (gospel - Like A Prayer, R&B - Take A Bow, electronica - Frozen, disco - Hung Up, Latin - La Isla Bonita, etc.). Before her, women were usually tied to one particular sound. It's as if they weren't allowed to genre-hop. They weren't supposed to sing about femininity and sexuality. They were punished for writing music that sounds sexy or suggestive, let alone talk about their sexual desires. When she came on the scene and broke those rules, she was hated for it. She was seen as a rebel; a bad influence, when she was just being a revolutionary, especially when it came to musical content. With her, music wasn't just sound playing in the background - it became a movement. All the sex, religious references and female empowerment talk in women's music these days is thanks to Madonna taking all the heat for doing so in the past. Pop has become a much bigger genre thanks to Madonna's experimentation, whereas 30 years ago, there were very strict labeling/categorizing rules as to sound and that dictated what kind of artist you were. A lot of creative and artistic freedom enjoyed by female artists in music these days is largely due to her boss mentality, her refusal to repeatedly work with the same people or sound and her personal involvement in the production of her material. Just like Mariah, Madonna innovated on what already existed without it sounding derivative. There's a reason why she's still is the bestselling female artist on the planet, the most successful female solo touring artist in around the world, as well as the most discussed, studied, documented, and published one in terms of influence. You'd be hard pressed to find a current female singer whose work is reviewed without reference to Madonna. Let us give credit where it's due. I misspoke initially - Mariah sure has her merits that will continue to keep her name in history books, but it would be the biggest lie in the music world to claim that today's musical landscape would be the same without Madonna, visuals aside. For a woman whose vocal limitations have been mocked time and time again, that's an even bigger achievement. I can say both Mimi and Madge are queens in their own right: Mariah for changing the game in terms of vocal performance, making melisma the standard and blurring the lines between pop, hip-hop and R&B, and Madonna for making music multi-dimensional media: listening pleasure + catalyst for change + cultural transcendence. (Sunday 14 January 2018; 09:07)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,404) (80,413) by Ronnie from California I definitely disagree with Mariah not being revolutionary. While the R&B, hip hop genres did some of the things she would later refine - Mariah (without a doubt) introduced a signature over an entire wave of music. Many girls have tried after 1997 but Mariah's layering and texture manipulation is beyond revolutionary, it is not able to be replicated. Her level of polish and intracicies is loved by actual music lovers, so undoubtedly her influence will shape the industry because those that work in such an industry should at least love it (or so I hope). What made Mariah so revolutionary was her work ethic that we know is required to make such gorgeous, layered tracks. No one since Mariah has been able to achieve her ability to make so many different melodies fall and melt into one another. It will continue to inspire generations but I think most girls inspired by her music want to do their own thing and not 100% be a carbon copy of her (since Mariah herself promotes for innovation). An example of Mariah using complex melodies in such a way would be Unforgettable (Acoustic Remix). By far the most slept on (by lambs) of her recent song releases. That original track was very choppy. So many things happening all at once which is why the regular remix didn't do as well. But the acoustic is much better. From the very beginning of the track we are greeted by one of the sloppiest runs I have ever heard her do. It was a reference to the original remix - then the music strips away and it sounds cleaner. As the first half of the song is going she is hitting the ad libs in the right places but also the wrong places. It begins to get frustrating because it sounded lazy. But then with 4 different melodies going, Mariah somehow managed to use her whistle register to navigate through the labyrinth of so many moving particles. During the second half, not only does she navigate though, she places each whistle at certain moments that almost change the "color" of the piece with each shift in frequency. She even uses 3 different melodies (all at different speeds), showing that she still has the skill of musicality, even when her voice is not there that day. (Sunday 14 January 2018; 05:37)

Re: Tea shirts (80,410) (80,412) by Andrew from UK In the hope that I will be proved wrong, I am not certain there is an renowned phrase that "You can't count Mariah Carey out", lest it be, like most things, an unfounded opinion moulded into truth. Ten years since success. Since then, she's gone from one disaster to another. As a genuine question, at what point in the past ten years could we have counted Mariah Carey "in"? I ask this without "hate" or such nonsense. Genuine question, what is success now? (Sunday 14 January 2018; 02:52)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,407) (80,411) by Andrew from UK The person to whom you are replying to is more accurate than you. "80%"? From what source? Also, you smudge Whitney's contribution to Mariah's sound which is patently absurd and you denigrate Madonna for having no sound and merely following trends. Your message, though admirable in intent, is, at many points, absurd. Mariah is, undeniably, an artist that has achieved much and effected much change, but her achievements stand alone and become less respectable when defined only by disparaging comparison to other artists. There is much to be critical of Mariah's repetition of formula and unwillingness to try new things. Yet, without need for debate, at her peak she was intuitively the leader in how vocalists should lay down vocals. I realise, somewhat, the irony in my own post, here. But your post is nonsense. The original post was insightful, seemingly without passion or prejudice. However, I love Canada. So I forgive you. God save the Queen. God save every queen. (Sunday 14 January 2018; 02:27)

Tea shirts (80,410) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Personally this does not appeal to me perse but that does not mean she should not have fun. This was more about making light of a situation and being in on the joke rather than the joke be on her so she decided to capitalize on it. As for a new album I say that it will come when she is ready to be inspired again but as the saying goes you can never count Mariah Carey out. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 12:26)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,406) (80,409) by Bill from the UK Unforgettable was a great track. An album in that vein would be brilliant. I'm still hopeful for a gospel, jazz and acoustic album in the future. There's a YouTube channel that puts up "stripped" versions of Mariah's songs. It adds a whole other layer and vibe to what are already amazing compositions. Plenty of artists have re-worked their back catalogue in that way and I'd love to see Mariah breathe new life into her enormous body of work. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 12:15)

New album (80,408) by Terna from Nigeria Remember that Facebook live feed she did last year where she was so hyper? Someone recorded it and uploaded to YouTube. Well, during the filming I think someone asked "Mariah, when is the new album dropping?" and she's was taken aback by that question and really didn't want to answer it. Lol. So yeah maybe she's just Netflix and chilling with dem kids. Someone in the comments section was like, "Mariah when is the new album dropping?" and she replies "3025 darlings." Haha. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 11:59)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,404) (80,407) by Matty from Vancouver Canada "by this_is_qhm", I could not disagree with you more about this following statment: "She's not like Janet or Madonna who marry shockingly creative and iconic visuals with innovative, boundary-pushing sounds and themes. But you know what? It's okay. Mariah's the type of artist who never has to do something groundbreaking to be successful. She's not that type of artist by nature/heart." Mariah's personal signature sound has inspired literally two generations of singers, from Christina to Ariana, and 80% of female contestants who have auditioned for American Idol onward around the world. Does she have crazy visuals? No. Her sound alone, without all the other aspects that are distracting from the music, have shifted the musical landscape. She has changed the sound of music and the expectation of pop-vocal performance globally. Madonna has never created a revolutionary sound or musical style (Grace Kelly, Cyndi Lauper, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, etc etc, right up to Timberland, and Diplo EDM). Musically she's followed every trend imaginable. However, Madonna did do the visuals, she did do the protest, she did stand up for LGBTQ and create a movement. To compare Mariah's musical shockwaves to Madonna's is apples and oranges (or musical artistry to visual protest artists), and honestly doesn't make sense. However, you did hit the nail on the head with this statement: "Dreamlover (sampling trend) Fantasy (hip-hop + R&B/pop to mainstream trend) and Glitter (80's throwback trend)." To say "aside" after that statement. Person, come on, "aside"? Very few singers have defined two decades of music, with three distinct trends (I would argue more trends). Music in 2018 would not be what it is without samples, featured rappers, or intentional throwback sounds. Has Mariah followed treads? Yes. Is she a revolutionary musical/vocalist trend setter? F*** yes. I would encourage you to listen to more music that came before Mariah's time. Whitney, Minnie Riperton or Diana Ross didn't even shift the game the way Mimi has. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 04:26)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,404) (80,406) by jaker20 from US Mariah's path to a successful new album and single is not her voice but the cool club sound, the collabs and midtempo bops. Why can't she write something like Julia Michaels' Issues? She can slay that range of vocals now and its themes transcend age. People complain Mariah's voice isn't up to par now is why she's no longer slaying the charts. But I always believed she's a pop genius and that her voice, as legendary as it is, is only second to that. That's what separates her from Celine and Whitney that sometimes I cringe at the comparison. So I'm more concerned about her losing her cool songwriting sensibilities, that or she's just not inspired to write anymore. Unforgettable with French Montana was a good direction but she didn't even write that one. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 02:22)

Re: Merch (80,401) (80,405) by Lila from United States I agree but then I long ago came to the conclusion that no new music was coming when all that flip flopping was going on. As long as she's not embarrassing herself with crap like dog walking apps and her ideas add to her brand versus taking away, I've nothing against it. The "tea" themed merchandise at least makes sense and many people think it's cute. So, I'll let her live. (Saturday 13 January 2018; 02:16)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,402) (80,404) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I agree for the most part. But Mariah's music has rarely been revolutionary. Dreamlover (sampling trend) Fantasy (hip-hop + R&B/pop to mainstream trend) and Glitter (80's throwback trend) aside, she has always been on trend rather than leading the pack. She's not like Janet or Madonna who marry shockingly creative and iconic visuals with innovative, boundary-pushing sounds and themes. But you know what? It's okay. Mariah's the type of artist who never has to do something groundbreaking to be successful. She's not that type of artist by nature/heart. Of course it's fun and interesting when she gets creative and mixes things up a bit by deviating from the sounds and styles she usually makes, but she doesn't have to be willfully eclectic or experimental to make an impact, as proven by her albums that have been critical and commercial hits because she takes what's current and elevates it with her sheer musicianship. Even her lesser albums MOAIA and Rainbow still somehow sound a cut above the rest of similarly sounding material at the time of their release because that's what Mariah is great at - she takes what's happening now and does her thing with it. Many of the albums released in 1990, 1995, 1997 and 2005 reflected the sound of Mariah Carey, Daydream, Butterfly and TEOM, respectively, but Mariah's efforts still stand out and are revered to this day because they are among the best executions of that particular trendy sound at the time. That is Mariah's magic in all its distinctive, octave leaping glory. (Friday 12 January 2018; 23:15)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,399) (80,403) by MusicfanJ from Germany I'm sure Mariah will give us more music. She's a true musician and needs to express herself through it. Licia you're right she's way too young to stop making albums. But if she needs some extra time, I'm ok with it. (Friday 12 January 2018; 20:30)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,396) (80,402) by Marissa from USA I'm content with the body of work Mariah's put out. If it's not going to be revolutionary, I'm not interested in a new album. I've been so traumatized by the mediocre or plain bad songs that she has put out recently that I don't want new music just for the sake of getting new music. I'm tired of songs that I have to listen to 5 times in order to like it, and even then a part of me is still forcing myself just because it's Mariah. If she doesn't start dropping some songs that at least have a chance of getting into the top 10 (without lambs having to sit at their computer and stream it 96 times in one day in order for it to happen), I'm not interested. I'd rather hear an old masterpiece than a new throwaway song or album. (Friday 12 January 2018; 20:05)

Merch (80,401) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I'm not really understanding what all the hate is about regarding the Mariah merchandise. Mariah's team capitalizing on the meme-queen Mariah has become, isn't distracting or taking away from Mariah making music. It's not as if she's the one designing the shirts, pressing the shirts, or updating her online merch store. She probably sees a proof what the merch will look like and gives it the thumbs up or down, and that's her involvement. Mariah's not releasing new music right now, because she's simply not releasing new music. Mariah has always been known for her corky words and expression since the 1990's. If Mariah's team didn't sell this merch, many others would be designing and selling similar "unofficial" stuff (as they already are). Why not let Mariah get a piece of the pie she helped bake, by letting her sell "official" versions of the merch? Case in point, if Mariah had sold her Pride Collection Rainbow merch when Rainbow came out, it would have been fiyah. But she missed that boat in 1999. At least now, within days of NYE the "Hot Tea" merch was ready to sell, and is relevant. She's not missing the boat this time, and they are striking while the iron is hot. Hasn't that been a grip of most Lambs for the past few years, she and Team-MC are always just a few steps behind? Now her team is getting ahead of the game. Don't buy it if you think it's tacky, because many more people are (including people that aren't Lambs), but don't think it's taking away from her ability to make new music. (Friday 12 January 2018; 18:45)

Re: "Don't Forget About Us (Desert Storm Remix)" (80,387) (80,400) by Hilton from USA Always loved this remix. The little video they shot, unofficial I believe, was festive too. (Friday 12 January 2018; 17:13)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,393) (80,399) by Licia from USA Even with me still enjoying and loving her other 14 albums I'll always want new music from her. I feel like she has still has at least 10 more albums left in her. She can stop putting out new music when she's 60... maybe. Lol. If Prince was still with us he'd still be selling albums out of Paisley Park from the trunk of his car with no record label or team. It's too early for Mariah to stop now. (Friday 12 January 2018; 16:06)

Article: Mariah Carey "all over" Kit Harington (80,398) by Andrew from UK Love The Sun. But I can assist them in making this article even briefer: "Mariah Carey spoke to someone." Fantastic journalists at News International. (Friday 12 January 2018; 14:42)

Re: Tea shirts (80,385) (80,397) by Andrew from UK I assume you understand the irony of your post? Keep readin' me, sweetheart. (Friday 12 January 2018; 14:38)

Re: Will we ever see a new album? (80,393) (80,396) by MusicfanJ from Germany "But I learned to enjoy the fact she gave us 14 studio albums already, and 27 amazing years of her. I mean how many other female artists have that many?" That's exactly how I feel and think about it. Of course I'm also thirsty about new music from the one and only Mariah but I'll enjoy all her masterpieces until then. She gave already her "all" to us, every other song or album is a bonus. And yes maybe we'll get a big surprise with her new team musically. Had to laugh about the Netflix comment. (Friday 12 January 2018; 11:25)

Re: Tea shirts (80,380) (80,395) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It's been established for quite some time now that Mariah has zero idea of what the fans actually want. This month she is apparently in Mimi the meme-generator mode. I'll try to pass this off as an exercise of her self-deprecating sense of humor, buying into the joke. Now if only she could also make fun of the fact that some bashers are saying she lip-synced her lines when she was presenting at the Globes, then that would be interesting. (Friday 12 January 2018; 08:28)

Article: Mariah Carey "all over" Kit Harington (80,394) by Betty from Canada MC is such a social butterfly at these parties. And what about the video of her being festive with her Touch My Body video partner Jack McBrayer, TBT. (Friday 12 January 2018; 05:28)

Will we ever see a new album? (80,393) by SM from Citizen of the World I don't think we will anytime soon, at least that's what I tell myself so I won't get let down. If anything just a single. Or as we all want that surprise Beyonce style album drop. I think her new team seems very creative so we could have exciting things to come. Who knows what Mariah is actually doing behind the scenes when she isn't performing, is she just sitting at home watching Netflix? Lol probably thinking of her next meme. But I learned to enjoy the fact she gave us 14 studio albums already, and 27 amazing years of her. I mean how many other female artists have that many? (Friday 12 January 2018; 02:28)

Billy (80,392) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I agree with you about remix of DFAU. (Friday 12 January 2018; 02:25)

Re: New Mariah (80,388) (80,391) by Licia from USA I'll let you make two mean comments about the Charmbracelet album and then we should be even until my next Banaka Tanaka post. *cyber hugs* (Friday 12 January 2018; 02:16)

Re: "Don't Forget About Us (Desert Storm Remix)" (80,387) (80,390) by Licia from USA I was listening to this earlier. I love this remix and the WBT remix. Although vocally it wasn't the best, this was the proper remix (new vocals and new beat) that I was craving because the official remix sucked. I hate that Billboard changed the rules on how remixes are done. Those copy and paste rapper on the original song remixes give me the blues. (Friday 12 January 2018; 02:12)

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