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Re: In defence of Andrew (79,741) (79,757) by darrian liu from taiwan Being blatantly racist and making racially insensitive comments out of not understanding enough about others is pretty much the same. Of course, if you haven't experienced receiving racially insensitive comments, you wouldn't know. Don't tell other people how to respond to racially charged comments when you don't understand the impact of it. (Sunday 10 December 2017; 05:02)

Re: Beacon Theatre DVD (79,754) (79,756) by Matty from Vancouver Canada I would love the Beacon Christmas show on DVD. I would also love the Vegas show on DVD, I could relive the night I attended that concert for the rest of my love. MC needs more concert DVDs. I would really appreciate an updated #1's DVD to accompany #1 to Infinity. (Sunday 10 December 2017; 02:18)

To Be Around You (79,755) by Special K from USA I was listening to "To Be Around You" today. That song reminded me how much in love I really am with my husband. The chorus and every lyric are so spot on. I am giddy right now, lol. Trust, I will be hitting some high notes tonight. Hehe. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 23:32)

Re: Beacon Theatre DVD (79,753) (79,754) by Hilton from USA This is a fantastic idea. I would love this. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 23:26)

Beacon Theatre DVD (79,753) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I would so love a dvd release, especially since Mariah is the queen of Christmas. I still play the ones that came with both Christmas albums and I miss concert and behind the scenes stuff being released. I guess I'm old school. I have every concert she's released. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 22:58)

Re: Ahem (79,751) (79,752) by G.G. from USA Racists always hide behind "it's my opinion", "I'm speaking the truth" bs. [censored] Mariah wouldn't like you either. Internet [censored]. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 19:18)

Ahem (79,751) by Andrew from UK Some of you sound like babies throwing a tantrum. I'm sorry you're so easily offended. What I say isn't racist, I've asked for quotes and received none, it may be insensitive but I'm not fussed about your sensitivities in the same way you clearly aren't fussed about mine. So you can repeat the word until you're blue in the face. [censored] bandwagon ranting doesn't bother me. If you wanna pull your hair out, pull it out; let your public lynching continue for it says a lot more about you than it does me hah. I will continue to be outspoken and speak the actual truth. And I will continue to take the [censored] out of things with humour instead of crying over every detail like some of you lot. If you don't like it, don't read it. And I stand by the original point, Mariah wearing wigs is ridiculous. Much love. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 17:08)

Re: V magazine (79,745) (79,750) by Chicago Lamb from USA You can't just tell us about something exciting like this and not provide a link, come on. Lol. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 16:15)

2017 ends beautifully for Mariah (79,749) by Sheila from United States While 2017 was a really rough year for Mariah (New Years Eve, weight gain, illness, Stella), we had a few beautiful points: Beacon sold out, Vegas shows, lambover parties (we love you Nick and MC sparkles), weight loss, new Christmas music and now touring overseas, that lovely intro to Joy to the Word which went viral. It ends on a lovely note. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 12:24)

Mariah in Paris (79,748) by MusicfanJ from Germany I'm tired of the "Andrew topic", but I love the post from Hilton. Anyway I just checked Mariah's instagram and the pics with her kids are lovely as always. She reminded me of the 99 MC, she looks fresh and beautiful. I wish the French lambs and everybody who will be in Paris tonight a great show and a wonderful time. To see her live is really the best. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 10:51)

Re: In defence of Andrew (79,746) (79,747) by Hilton from USA Thank you GG and Marissa. The nerve. This person is out of control and reckless. It's a shame that we are even discussing this. Like I said before, he hides behind a keyboard and does this. I bet he would never face to face. I don't care how Mariah has conducted herself. She is a human being and deserves respect. There isn't one person on this board that is perfect. I guarantee you, if one of us had a lens in our face every minute of every day and people trashed you and spoke about you like you were a worthless piece of trash, you wouldn't like it. So, stop it. Grow up. Give criticism that is honest, tough but caring. It's not rocket science. Stop talking about this woman like she is a scumbag because she's far from it. (Saturday 9 December 2017; 00:22)

Re: In defence of Andrew (79,741) (79,746) by Marissa from USA Quick question: What is the difference between being continuously "racially insensitive", never apologizing or modifying your behavior, and being racist? As a person who has experienced it, there is no difference. Everyone has said something racially insensitive out of ignorance before. What keeps me from categorizing someone as racist is if they are quickly (caps) apologetic and make an effort to modify their behavior for the better moving forward. He does neither, so that is why I have given him that label and not budged. Like I said before, this really isn't about his opinion anymore. He's not changing no matter what we say. I don't hate him and wanting someone to be held accountable does not imply hate. It's about someone who doesn't even try to adapt for the sake of the community after years of complaints and has been consistently excused. Also the phrase "offense is a choice" implies that no matter what harmful thing a person does to you, the fault lies with the victim for acknowledging that it's morally wrong. They should have just not gotten offended and everything would have been fine. (Friday 8 December 2017; 23:13)

V magazine (79,745) by SM from Citizen of the World I've just seen online MC did another photo shoot for V magazine. This is exciting. (Friday 8 December 2017; 22:48)

Re: In defence of Andrew (79,741) (79,744) by G.G. from USA His comments are racist. Stop defending, explaining, and escusing his behavior. (Friday 8 December 2017; 22:32)

Re: Why are weapons formed against us prospering? (79,740) (79,743) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I read all of Andrew's posts. I don't skip over them. If something someone says on here triggers something for me. I see that as a chance to look inside and see what meaning. I am giving what is said. Others are not responsible for my peace I am responsible for that. Andrew can say anything and the only thing I am responsible for is how I respond to it and whether or not I let it wreck my day. Don't misunderstand I am no way saying an unloving disrespectful behavior is Ok, it isn't ok. There ate lots of things said here on a daily basis that break Eric's rules. People's beliefs are a reflection of what goes on for them a need that is not being met and a deep call to experience acceptance and love. Not sure an outright ban would actually fix anything it might seem to until the next to come along and influence the boat, but I can aso see the position Eric is in. Bottom line Andrew is not responsible nor does he control how I see Mariah. I will not adopt racist or unloving behavior when it is posted here and Andrew is not responsible for my enjoyment of the board. No one poster here is except for me. People who are hurting deep down, hurt back. (Friday 8 December 2017; 22:11)

Eric (79,742) by Edward from USA I agree with Eric. He just should enforce the rules a little bit more without turning the board into a boring mess or into the Mary Poppins Archives. I don't think Andrew should be banned, even though I know most people are out for his head with good reasons. By enforcing the rules certain posts wouldn't see the light of day. One thing that is very strange is how a couple of people think it's not ok to be racist, but that's ok to be homophobic and being vocal about it here with name calling and insinuations. (Friday 8 December 2017; 21:37)

In defence of Andrew (79,741) by Anonymous from UK I say this as someone who responded angrily to his last comments: Andrew shouldn't be banned from the board. Yes his comments can be racially insensitive and stem from a lack of understanding, but they're not explicitly racist nor do I believe him to be racist, thinking himself superior to another race. And yes, his comments about Mariah or others are at times harsh, written in the manner and attitude of the pretty vicious/overreactive UK press and sections of the public (the wig comments - totally out of emotional context) but he does genuinely love Mariah and is a product of his society, not a cold hearted nasty person. There is often truth in what he says - MC has been lazy, sloppy and messy in many aspects of her career for literally years and it is valid to point these things out, even if you don't like the way he puts, their regularity or she is "doing better" now. Offence is a choice and rudeness is subjective. Hatred of him for having or expressing opinions, or for semantics, is no better than what he's accused of. (Friday 8 December 2017; 21:35)

Re: Why are weapons formed against us prospering? (79,728) (79,740) by Marissa from USA Thank you for your response. Andrew is not a misguided person who just needs a little correction. If that's the case, where is his apology over what he just said and the things he's said in the past? I don't even want it at this point because I know it would just be a b.s. attempt to stay on this board. He has no interest in changing, whether it's being racist or being evil towards Mariah. He doesn't even apologize for the things he says. He just disappears, posts a few neutral messages when he comes back and strikes again with his vitriol when he wants to shake things up. We have had to confront him over the same issues over and over again. When he's having attention withdrawals he says something inflammatory and cruel in order to get his needs met. Our confrontations can't help him because he doesn't want to be helped. I understand your line of thinking but we've shown him for years that the things he's said are unacceptable and quite frankly, that isn't our job. This is the Mariah Carey Archives, not the Educating Andrew Archives and he is too much of a distraction from the reason we come here: Mariah. I appreciate your promise to enforce the rules more strictly because I truly feel like we've suffered enough after years of trying to police this dude. (Friday 8 December 2017; 19:54)

Flashback interview (79,739) by MusicfanJ from Germany I just wanted to share this old but gold interview with you. It was before her career took off. Back at the day where she hoped for "some success". I love her speaking voice so much. At the end she said: Thank you darlings. Now we have 2017 and wish her the best. It's good to see her happy again. (Friday 8 December 2017; 19:39)

Re: Lil Snowman video (79,734) (79,738) by Jared from USA Yes, they should've used footage from the movie. Anyways, just want to say hi to all the lambs in the land and wish you all a Merry Christmas. I was able to watch Mariah at the Beacon on December 2, and she was lovely and sounded good. I'm so excited now that you-know-who is out of the picture and she is under new management. Things are looking up. (Friday 8 December 2017; 19:39)

Re: Lil Snowman video (79,734) (79,737) by enwar00 from usa I thought the exact same thing when I watched it. Seems like an odd choice. Especially since the characters in the video even seem to be inspired by the movie that was based on the book that was inspired by the song. That movie and little Mariah in it are so cute. (Friday 8 December 2017; 18:08)

Another Vevo certification (79,736) by Terna from Nigeria And this time it's for my favorite song from "Memoirs" and in my opinion, her version the best cover - "I Want to Know What Love is". This is so cool, This is a special Christmas for Mariah Carey. (Friday 8 December 2017; 16:34)

Re: Best Christmas present ever (79,716) (79,735) by Terna from Nigeria I'm Loving every minute of it. When is the line drawn at some point that gremlin needs to be gone. (Friday 8 December 2017; 16:26)

Re: Lil Snowman video (79,726) (79,734) by Chicago Lamb from USA I think they should have used footage from the movie for the 'Lil Snowman video. It would have served both the song and the movie, and even the book much better. (Friday 8 December 2017; 15:47)

Re: Ban him, so we can enjoy this site (79,733) by Sheila from United States We spend so much time defending Mariah against "him" that it takes away from doing anything positive for Mariah. (Friday 8 December 2017; 15:00)

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