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Re: Being honest (81,385) (81,387) by RibbonB from USA I agree, but did he actually say they aren't manly? I just see it as teasing, which in excess is not cool though. It's sort of like why Mimi let Roc use a binky until dang near puberty, even though Nick hated it. Mimi joked about that during the marriage and we kept seeing that thing during the divorce. Where co parenting stalls I suppose. But yeah both parents did things, some of which made me SMH. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 20:50)

Re: Videos (81,378) (81,386) by Bill from the UK Nick was a marriage, with children. Damizza was an ill advised fling. I think MC respects Nick's permanent position in her life, and that of their children, to not write a low rent diss song in the style of Thirsty about the father of her children. During the writing of MIAM, Mariah and Nick were married, and the album notes state how much she treasures her family. People over analysed everything in those songs once the divorce was public, but that album was in the works for years don't forget. Tom Fords, @-ing MC on Insta were all things Damizza was doing after they split, posting pictures of them and so on. Not sure if you've read Damizza's book, but he has a chapter about Mariah ("Don't Forget About Us") which is really interesting. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 19:45)

Being honest (81,385) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) If I have to be honest both Nick and Mariah played a role in why they split. No one is better than the other on that front. The most important thing is to be the best parents possible for Roc and Roe. The only thing I don't like with Nick is him making fun of Roc for liking to wear to Uggs because he claims they are not manly. He is a child for Christ sake it is not a big deal. As long as the twins are clean, healthy, and being brought up and raised in a productive, and healthy environment that is all that matters. Everything else that happened in the past between Nick and Mariah should be left behind. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:18)

Re: Videos (81,379) (81,384) by MusicfanJ from Germany All the things Nick said during that time were so tasteless and hurtful. Imagine your husband would talk like that. It's not acceptable. I think even as a comedy act/entertainer it's completely wrong to talk about those private things. We all know Mariah hates it like nothing else. So maybe to be more "provocative" at the end was his plan like "the real deal" on this board said. I still think Nick was a bit starstruck from the beginning and realized that Mariah is only human with mistakes like everyone else. To be called Mr. Carey and took a back seat is not easy as well. But no surprise. That she trusted a self-exposer with a big mouth is hard to understand. Well must have been love. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:06)

"My All" (Divas Live) (81,383) by Billy from Greece Lately, I've been obsessed with Mariah on the first VH1 Divas live concert. The way she owns the stage with "My All" from the very first step she takes is monumental. Every breath she takes, every muscle she moves, every look she gives, everything is flawless here. Not to mention the resonance in the first chorus in the "cause I can't go on" part. Just shattering. Next month it will be twenty years since the show took place. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 14:05)

Re: Martyn (81,377) (81,382) by Andrew from UK "She was kinda magical, her laughter sent you casually floating through a moment of release. No, I'd never dreamed that there would come a time." That picture just reminded me of that song. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 13:25)

Re: Videos (81,378) (81,381) by RibbonB from USA Not to mention, Thirsty is a song about regret and remorse at the demise of a relationship. Mimi literally "don't know him", which is why the other is " Damizzerable". Whatever their association, Mimi dusted her hands and gave ugly little "Damizzerabke" dust, unlike breaking up with Nick which seemingly filled her with regret, especially with kids involved. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 12:39)

Re: Martyn (81,377) (81,380) by Licia from USA That's beautiful. *I'm not crying...* (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 07:48)

Re: Videos (81,376) (81,379) by Licia from USA Nick had a big mouth their whole relationship. (That's the one thing I agree with everyone on. He talked entirely too much lol.) In my opinion the things he said were not any worse at the end than they were at the beginning. I think most of you are making the things he's said bigger now because y'all are upset he had the audacity to file for divorce from the Mariah Carey. Had she been the one to do it we wouldn't even be having this discussion. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 07:44)

Re: Videos (81,371) (81,378) by Mara from United States I have heard the rumour that Thirsty was about Damizza but I personally think it has Nick written all over it. If you think about it, all of MIAM is a telling story about her marriage falling apart, so why would she break the formula and place a song about Damizza in the mix? I suppose anything is possible, just my two cents. (Wednesday 14 March 2018; 02:15)

Martyn (81,377) by Bill from the UK Nice memorial for Martyn. I'm sure he'd be delighted. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 20:26)

Re: Videos (81,370) (81,376) by The Real Deal from USA I always felt that Nick started saying things publically at the end of his marriage in order for Mariah to get mad enough to want to divorce him. Examples: When he went on the radio show and talked about all the female celebrities he had sex with before marrying Mariah, when he was interviewed on the red carpet about who had a great butt and he said Nicki Minaj (who Mariah as we all know had just finished having drama with on Americasn Idol a year before), when he started talking about the things that him and Mariah did in the bedroom. I really feel like he did all of these things with the hopes of her saying "I can't take this. You're outta here." Ironically she didn't and he ended up filing for divorce and the reason that he gave for it was such a bullshyt one. Something to the effect of "The relationship wasn't growing." (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 19:02)

Re: Videos (81,372) (81,375) by MusicfanJ from Germany Ribbon B. you're right "Faded" and "Cry" are also obvious. I always get a little sad if I listen to them. I usually love her sad, longing songs but with the slow songs on MIAMTEC it's different because of the divorce in real life. And I still wonder if "Don't explain" was a "message" or not. I hope the new album has more songs with a positive energy. To quote Licia, "To be fair lets put all her wrong doings on the table too." That's true, they are both grown-ups and they both made mistakes I guess. If they are all happy or at least ok with the situation, that's fine. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:45)

Re: Kelly Clarkson: I don't think about you and Mariah (81,369) (81,374) by RibbonB from USA She is always so sweet to Mariah, but she is such a cornball. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:36)

Re: Videos (81,372) (81,373) by RibbonB from USA And not to mention You Make it Look Good and You Don't Know What to Do and probably all of the rest. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 17:17)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,372) by RibbonB from USA Nick was publicly and openly dating multiple women and he has said he was never in a relationship with the new baby's mother. She got pregnant, and he is now co parenting with her as well. This was all during the time Mimi was engaged and dating someone else at the same time, while filming a reality show. Surely the kids will have many questions and lots of material to read about it. Don't forget the iconic songs Cry, and Money plus my fave from MIAM, Faded. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 16:26)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,371) by Bill from the UK Thirsty is about Damizza. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 15:21)

Re: Videos (81,368) (81,370) by Licia from USA Why would Mariah be worried about anything Nick is doing though? The family situation shouldn't be hard for her at all now. I could see if the baby popped up when they first separated, but she had clearly moved on by the time Golden was born. She almost got married to another man while she was still married and she was flirting with a different man when she was about to marry again. It's unbelievable how many people don't find fault in that mess, but are quick to jump him. I'm not saying Nick is innocent nor do I agree with alot of the things he's done, but to be fair lets put all her wrong doings on the table too. They both have done things that had they happened when they first separated, I could see and understand one or the other being hurt, but at this point neither of them should he hurt about anything the other is doing. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 13:43)

Kelly Clarkson: I don't think about you and Mariah (81,369) by Sheila from United States Kelly has a acoustic version called Wine and Kelly where at the end she says, "That's very Mariah of me." If you notice the song is very Mariah-ish. A beautiful tribute (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 13:07)

Re: Videos (81,364) (81,368) by MusicfanJ from Germany I read an interview where Nick said that he was "addicted" to instagram and that's why he deleted it. Now I'm pretty sure that "Thirsty" is about him. The same with "Camouflage". Anyway I think the whole family situation is not so easy for MC like it seems. It looks like they are "co-parenting" very well but that Nick has become father again and didn't stay with his ex (the model) only shows that he is the womanizer everybody was telling from the beginning. The day will come when Monroe will ask more questions. (Why her beloved parents are not together anymore and so on.) I mean family things are often difficult but if your parents are famous, that's another thing. So enough said about those "private things". (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 12:55)

Re: Celebrating women (81,357) (81,367) by Special K from USA Wooo the shade Eric the shade. Sipps tea. Ah Nikki Imma need you to pick up your jaw from off the floor. (Tuesday 13 March 2018; 03:38)

Re: Videos (81,362) (81,366) by Licia from USA I have two older sisters and two younger ones. Those last two sisters pretty much made me realize I'm not cut out for the parental life. Then my older sister has my niece and nephew. Them two heathens ruined me for life. Lol. (Monday 12 March 2018; 23:56)

Re: Samples (81,358) (81,365) by Bill from the UK Maybe, but why she would do it from a low key YouTube channel and not her official outlets is odd, unless there's some contractual issue to her doing it. Hope they keep them coming, as everything that's posted is brilliant, and then a real slam dunk like the O Holy Night outtakes appear. Love it. (Monday 12 March 2018; 21:05)

Re: Videos (81,362) (81,364) by Andrew from UK Nick, the king of morality, and nowhere near a stereotype, says his daughter cannot date until she is 40. So, sex discrimination. But let his son spread his seed to multiple women, a la his father. What a role model. What hypocrisy of morality. The guy is a grunt with money. Remove his money, and he is just a grunt. (Monday 12 March 2018; 19:32)

Re: Samples (81,361) (81,363) by RibbonB from USA So sorry, typo. He did not even get to see her because she was so busy in [the] studio. (Monday 12 March 2018; 16:13)

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