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Re: Mariah doesn't sing unless cued (73,877) (73,880)
by Mara from United States
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I have to agree with this as well. I remember her singing in that mic starting right at Luther like she was watching his cues. I also remember her singing that way with Whitney when they performed WYB live. She always seemed to be a bit reserved and respectful. Mariah never came off as a showoff and was classy with her performances with other legends. With Luther and that live performance, I think he seemed thrilled that she was "killing it" on stage with him. That glorious Luther smile said it all when she went there. Agree with RibbonB too, where is our Luther of this generation?
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 17:25)
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Re: Article: Mariah is turning "All I Want" into an animated movie (73,846) (73,879)
by RibbonB from USA
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Mariah stays on the pulse of new music. She listens. I think she was just acting like she didn't know what "surfboardt" meant on the Breakfast Club Interview. She was still in her "married with twins, yet Mary Poppins phase" then. She merely did not want to discuss whether or not she engaged in that kind of physicality. Lol. She was also asked about Lemonade on WWHL, when it came, but she just played coy, not because she had not heard it, but because she didn't really want to discuss it. She said if Jay and Bey haven't said anything to her, then she was not going to speculate. But I do agree other things have to go through Stella the Bat's blood sucking filter.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 17:11)
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Re: Mariah doesn't sing unless cued (73,876) (73,878)
by Musti from UK
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I couldn't agree more. M always pays her respects to those that have come before her, either by praising them or by giving reserved performances to let the legends shine. Endless Love at the Royal Albert Hall is probably one performance where M equalled/surpassed the legend on stage. But I don't think Luther cared. If anything, he could hardly contain his excitement when he was announcing M's name to join him on stage. That performance was all about M in my opinion.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 16:19)
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Re: Mariah doesn't sing unless cued (73,876) (73,877)
by Edouard from France
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Totally agree. I believe Mariah's so respectful of those she was inspired by. She's never outsinging them, because I think she has ethics. She's also scared and she only sings with people who she knows will be supportive and sing with her. She sings with them, never against them. She treats these performances as an honour (because she's a fan first and foremost) and never trats them as a platform for her own promo/ego. I love Mariah.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 10:37)
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Mariah doesn't sing unless cued (73,876)
by Nikki from usa
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I used to talk about that with other fans way back in the day. Mariah is so respectful of those that came before her. Even when she came out she was careful to emphasize she didn't sound "anything like Aretha, but this is my tribute to her". It doesn't matter the legend. Whenever she's on stage for any performance with Patti, Donna, Aretha, etc. She's always watching them for a cue or flat out waiting for them to tell her to sing. I'm not sure how I'm the only one on the board who noticed that. I also disagree Edward - she didn't outsing Luther, she sang just like she did it in the studio. She didn't take her eyes off him either until she was well into verse, didn't you notice her watching him like a hawk? Take a look at her live with Luther than live with Trey Lorenz. It's way different.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 04:38)
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Re: Article: Mariah is turning "All I Want" into an animated movie (73,846) (73,875)
by Lila from United States
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You'd be wasting your money. No one can escape reality, no matter the amount of money they have or people around them to keep the "good times" rolling. That's just reality. Imperfection, criticism, sadness, death, disaster, disappointment, failure, heartbreak, etc. will always touch the life of every human being to varying extents. That just leaves the options to either face it head on or put on a mask and pretend it doesn't affect you but with the second option, it'll always be just that, a pretense.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 03:33)
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Mariah held her own with Luther (73,874)
by Ty from USA
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That live performance in the U.K. If you listen note for note Mariah soared. Yes Luther was good but it was Mariah's night vocally.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 03:15)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,866) (73,873)
by Bill from the UK
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So Luther died because Mariah outsang him during their duet? What a way to go.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 01:21)
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Re: Celine doesn't deserve an apology (73,864) (73,872)
by Special K from USA
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I absolutely agree and Mariah did take several seats. She ended up singing with background singers, lol.
(Thursday 23 March 2017; 01:06)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,853) (73,871)
by darrian liu from taiwan
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Hmm, I agree that the Divas Live ad lib moment was a lost opportunity, but the Got to Be Real duet was really out of Mariah's control. Patti is a dramatic soprano, which is known for their gargantuan size especially in their head voice and belts. There are even instances where she demonstrated that her head voice and belts still clearly audible without mic on live performances, even with the audience cheering. Mariah is a light lyric coloratura soprano, known for a girly bright tone, with a small volume but tons of agility and flexibility. Moreover, when they harmonized, Patti was using a very loud G#5 belt, while Mariah was using her whistle. Obviously Patti would drown out her voice even more.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 23:41)
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Re: Celine doesn't deserve an apology (73,864) (73,870)
by Andrew from UK
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Adam, thou are right, and it was certainly not the bloody Aretha Franklin Show. There is no unwritten rule that if Aretha Franklin sings everyone else must pretend that they can't. Demented people who think that Celine should "stay in her lane" are lambs clutching at straws, once again, to excuse a poor performance my Mariah - in this instance, on "Natural Woman". Mariah probably would've if she could've but she couldn't so she didn't (however, in saying that, I thought she whooped Aretha on "Chain of Fools"). Further, Celine was probably top billing for that show given it was the year of Titanic ("Oycberg, royt ahead") and with "Falling Into You" not long since winning Celine a new inch of neck at the Grammys. If anyone shaded Aretha, surely it was the production company or whomsoever cut other performed songs from the DVD/CD. "Top billing", indeed. If only the show were Divas Live 96: Mariah would've annihilated everyone there. Mariah was not the best, and it's certainly not "passive aggressive" to explicitly say so. Who's up for people using terms like that to understand to what they actually refer and to what they should be applied? "Passive aggressive"? Hmm, let me see if I can help. Ooh, I know. One example springs to mind - how about inferring someone who sang better than you was being disrespectful to somebody else? Haha. Oh, you have to have a little fun, now and again.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 23:23)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,866) (73,869)
by RibbonB from USA
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Luther's gonna read you for filth, if you reach the pearly gates. I can only wish for a Luther of this generation.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 22:44)
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In Mariah's defense (73,868)
by Giovanni from USA
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Regarding Celine and Patti. Mariah tried her best at "Divas live". Clearly she was not in the best shape vocally but she still had the best voice on that stage and delivered two great performances. Celine had her moment with Aretha but Mariah's "Make it happen" was the best performance of the night in my opinion. Mariah is not the type of singer to go head to head with other singers. She has so much respect for her idols that's just who she is. Now with Patti, it doesn't matter who you are you can't out sing her. Patti is a dramatic soprano. She has the most loudest and most powerful voice type. It didn't matter if it was Chaka, Whitney, Jennifer Holiday or Celine Dion. Patti will destroy anyone. Mariah's performance with Patti was probably the most fun she's had with any singer.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 22:40)
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I don't (73,867)
by Giovanni from USA
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Has grown on me, but the video is terrible. And why she continues collaborating with corny worthless no name rappers is beyond me. Mariah's over the top sexiness is such a turn off. I was all here for "Beautiful", but "I don't" is disgusting. Hands down her worst video ever. Mariah is so much better than that.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 22:27)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,865) (73,866)
by Edward from USA
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Yes, she did. And because of that poor Luther ended up dancing with his father before his time. Luther was so gracious, a class act. We miss you Luther.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 20:47)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,862) (73,865)
by RibbonB from USA
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Edward, Mariah absolutely did not outsing Luther The Vandross. Never, ever, in life. The end.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 20:26)
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Re: Celine doesn't deserve an apology (73,842) (73,864)
by ADAM from USA
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I completely disagree with you. I think Divas Live is an opportunity to showcase several musicians and have a good time. Doing riffs and runs and exchanging parts while looking glam is all par for the course. I think Mariah's shady comment about Celine competing with Aretha was clearly her own insecurities manifested outwardly. I still hold the same opinion I had back then that Mariah's voice sounded fried and really bad especially compared to any of the other females there. Had her voice been like it was in 93 she would have been the one doing all the magic Celine's voice was doing. I think Mariah was jealous that her instrument is damaged and gives to right to shade Celine or anyone else. Celine is such a geneuine nice person and another great singer. Mariah needs to have several seats.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 19:21)
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Re: New All I Want For Christmas animated movie (73,832) (73,863)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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It could be really sweet and well done as long as there are measures to ensure strong quality. I can totally see kids loving it. Makes sense along with the children's book.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 19:01)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,857) (73,862)
by Edward from USA
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RibbonT, how dare you? Lol. Celine didn't outsing Aretha, but she sounded great. She was there to sing, and so she did and well. If you can tell me with a straight face that Mariah didn't outsing Luther, then I believe you. I love that duet, I've watched it a million times, and it is still one of my favorite duets from her, but if that isn't outsinging, I don't know what it is. I don't think she went there with the intention to be an ass, but she outsung him out of the theater. Ok, I'm giving you your B back. RibbonB. Love your posts always.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 18:50)
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"I'm free" vs "If it's over" (73,861)
by Ty from USA
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This is a hard one, I'd have to go with "I'm free".
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 18:21)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,857) (73,860)
by Hilton from USA
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I'll agree with Mariah. You stand there and enjoy the moment, pay respect, and don't try to outsing the queen of soul. Mariah sounded great that night and she doesn't need to have vocal battles with other artists to prove anything. It's called staying in your lane. I swear some of you all really need a grip on reality because you sound like a broken record with pent up anger that's passive aggressive towards someone you don't even personally know. SMH. Hence why Aretha and Mariah get along with each other.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 18:03)
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The Emotions "Untouched" album (73,859)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Growing up, I loved this album and wore out the vinyl playing it over and over again. Lol. So you can imagine when I heard "Dreamlover" and that unmistakable sample from "Blind alley" it was an instant hit to me. Listening to the album now, I definitely hear the vocal influence they had on Mariah, and even an influence on song structure and vocal performance. Shout-out to "Show Me How" that's my favorite from the album. Ok Mariah, an Instagram post of you singing "Show Me How" would make my year.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 18:02)
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Mariah Carey : a vocal powerhouse (73,858)
by Terna from Nigeria
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This article has to be the most misleading write up anyone could ever come up with. Reading that title, I thought it was going to be an indepth analysis of her voice and vocal technique. Instead it was one chopped up, badly written and organized summarized article. It feels like the writer was either drunk, zoned out or did it on purpose.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 17:49)
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Re: Hypocrisy, here I come (73,853) (73,857)
by RibbonB from USA
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Lol. Mariah never outsang Luther. He was being gracious and toning way down to blend better with her. They sang a proper duet on Endless Love. I also hope you are joking about Celine vs. Aretha, because Celine sounded like a cat in heat trying to keep up with the queen.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 16:35)
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Re: Ed Sheeran Shape of You (73,851) (73,856)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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It's ok May. I personally love Ed and think he's incredibly gifted and talented. I love that he has such a wide range of influences, he writes, sings, produces and performs live. I love his stuff but not every artist is going to resonate with everyone, so I respect how you feel. I also appreciate so much that he has remained authentic, genuine and humble. He doesn't seem to ever be to caught up in what people think in that he says what is true for him in a take me or leave me kind of way. I think I still love the X album more than Divide. However I still love Divide at the same time. I think sometimes too, when an artist becomes really popular they can be everywhere so they can be overplayed too. Especially if you don't feel a pull to their stuff to begin with. Lol.
(Wednesday 22 March 2017; 16:34)
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