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To and fro (74,281) by Nikki from usa It's interesting how everyone just loves Anthony, yet he's the one who told Mariah to bring her butt out and touch her breast. Everyone loves Benny who has been fired by nearly every artist he's ever managed including J.Lo. He's been known to burn bridges and has incorporated sleezy business tactics. He is one of the reasons Brenda hates Mariah. Of course, he can get the job done because he's cut throat just like the music industry. Rene was a great manager, but it doesn't change the fact he also married and lived off Celine's success [censored]. Go on and love Mottola, but he was nothing before Sony and hasn't amounted too much since being fired by them. He can scream from the top of his lungs how he "discovered" great talent and had his own biz once upon a time, but it doesn't change the fact he wasn't the one to turn them into stars and his business didn't go anywhere. He had to be hired by a friend and then stab him in the back for his job to get his seat at Sony. Just because you want Mariah to rule again, doesn't mean she wants to. She did that for 2 decades. She's said repeatedly she doesn't want to have a million comebacks. She's trying new things, stuff she hasn't been able to do before. Now, she's enjoying herself, her hobbies, and her life. Mariah needs to be needed and those that are grateful for her help makes her happy. Amazingly, Mariah isn't interested in having people around who don't like anything about her and criticize her all the time. She's just not frigid and joyless like a girl should be. (Sunday 9 April 2017; 08:52)

Re: Edward (74,280) by Nikki from usa Not to rain on your parade of lynching Stella, but Mottola didn't raise Sony revenue to 6 billion. That's for the whole entire company, not just the music division. 2000 actually saw losses from the previous year in the music sector. Mottola lost over 200 million in 2001 and then doubled it in 2002 which is why he was canned in spring of the next year. But, you're right, he did open up more and new markets and help them make more money from '91-'99; before he became obsessed with sticking it to his ex wife and then Micheal Jackson over The Beatles catalog. Both Mottola and Stella are too extreme in opposite directions. I would like to see Mariah with someone who's professional, knows what they're doing, but still allows Mariah the creative freedom to express herself as an artist. Guidance and teamwork are wonderful things, but Mottola's brand of domineering in Mariah's case, isn't. Renee was a good manager in many ways, but he didn't treat Celine like a dog to bark when he said so. Nor would Celine be on board with such treatment. (Sunday 9 April 2017; 08:28)

Art of Letting Go (74,279) by Nikki from usa I agree, I heard Mottola all over that record. She was never in any one else's "dominion". Especially, since that came out in 2014. I know Nygel and Mottola are friends and he's the one that frequently brings up Mariah from years ago. The sheer fact Mottola wrote an open letter to a gossip column shows he's not done with her. Most of us heard that he was calling up MC and asking what MIAM sold. I was worried about her joining with AI to begin with because of the J.Lo/Mottola connection to that show. Of course, Mariah joining under false pretenses is when the show decided to "try something new". How do we know Mottola wasn't calling up Mariah and asking her to let him manage her again after that debacle? If he had would the Art of Letting Go make more sense? When MC left their joint mansion she said she only took pictures and "sentimental" things. It would also make more sense why he wanted an article published that says how he would've managed Mariah. I'd think after 20 years he would've moved on. But, if we're realistic J.Lo's getting old and her fame is based on beauty. She could have a good 5 years left and then it's going to be slim pickings for opportunities. Mariah will always be the talent with a legacy despite age and appearance. There's more angles to work with. (Sunday 9 April 2017; 07:53)

Debunking Lila (74,278) by Nikki from usa Because, why not? 1) Mariah broke Tanaka's damn leg. Just because the cast is off doesn't mean it entirely healed. He would have to go to physical therapy for months and still keep major weight off of it initially after it's healed. You think tours happen without advance tryouts ahead of time? What would he be trying out for with a bum knee? 2) He was still cutting scenes for MW in November and Mariah was still touring. He was a dancer for her in December and she had gigs in January. Did we also forget she's supposed to be touring with Lionel which got delayed? He's not going to be looking for new work while still employed with a current job. 3) Tanaka has been in the dancing biz for 10 years and worked with everyone from Beyonce to Madonna. 4) Bryan is good with kids and is hands on with his own nieces and nephews. I don't know if I buy the relationship as romantic, but I think they're good friends who have a love of kids and both are family oriented. That's probably refreshing for Mariah and Bryan will allow her to lead. And no, Lila, celebrities don't have to call paparazzi for a photo op. There are "hot spots" where the paps like to hang out because celebs frequent there. If a celeb has juicy news surrounding them than the paparazzi are more likely to watch them like a hawk because they can score a higher pay day for their pics. Mariah was huge news after the NYE catastrophe and stayed big news by "offically" being with Tanaka. Of course, a lot of that has died down now. (Sunday 9 April 2017; 07:29)

Re: Busta collab (74,272) (74,277) by Capri_ from China Unfortunatelly the people in twitter are suddenly attacking Mariah Carey and Busta Rhymes through a video just posted which they performed in 2015, and people's comments on Mariah's vocal crack and Busta's fat body are terribly nasty. I tried to tell them this is a video from 2015 and posted Mariah's latest performance "One more try", but they just ignore it and continue to attack Mariah. So what should we do? (Sunday 9 April 2017; 04:27)

Re: Busta collab (74,272) (74,276) by Will from England Really wish that they didn't do that (i.e. calling it a IKWYW pt. 2). Lord knows that it will set our expectations too high, and anything less than that will prove to be a disappointment, as proven in the past when anyone has said "oh it's like Vanishing/VOL pt 2 etc.". Mariah has way too high a standard when it comes to collabs and singles that whenever critics or people around her try to hype it up, anything less will fall flat and the song/album flops. Wish we could all go into a new song with no expectations for it to be like anything she's done before, so we're not comparing it straight away. We usually do that after we've heard the song anyway lol. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 21:47)

Re: Mariah Carey: winner by default (74,274) (74,275) by Andrew from UK God has favourites? The big magical make-believe beardy man in the sky likes Mariah a lot so gave her lots of talent and money. Moreso than he likes the people of Syria, for example. Bad little Syrians. God doesn't like you as much. Take this chemical bomb, kids. What an insane load of nonsense you always write, with very little ever based in reality. However, you have outdone yourself this time. Lunacy. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 21:06)

Mariah Carey: winner by default (74,274) by Terna from Nigeria She's a special one. God's favorite (yeah the most high does have favorites). She stays winning by default. Everything she touches turns gold. A career spanning three decades of record breaking, staggering achievements even other legends would kill for. A body of work unmatched, still relevant, still talked about, still kicking and most importantly the most beautiful kids of any celebrity and generally. Sounds like a career to be envious of. She's got nothing more to prove, she's done it all and come out on top everytime. Indeed she is "#1 to Infinity". (Saturday 8 April 2017; 19:22)

Mimi / Ribbon / Licia (74,273) by Lila from United States Thanks Mimi, I try. Licia you are not the only one, and Ribbon Anthony was so right but it's so mind blowing at the same. This pervasiveness within the fan base to eat up and believe every lie, and not even good lies but poorly thought out, obviously lying lies is mind blowing. I can't stop Mariah from doing the stupid things she does but it doesn't mean I have to fall for the stupidity either. I don't understand how they can let someone piss on their leg and then tell them it's raining. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:45)

Busta collab (74,272) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I wonder when it will be dropping. Mariah was under the impression it will drop late March, but since it's not her single, she probably doesn't know the details. They shot the video too, I hope it's coming soon. I love Busta, although I don't know how he's doing commercially at the moment, but I just want a hot song, that can be the summer anthem. They are playing it out to be IKWYW part 2 and I'm here for it, after all it kick started the return of the voice. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:30)

Edward (74,271) by Gabe from USA This guy has been a fan posting here since I can remember. He does have valid points and has followed Mariah's career to have an opinion. I agree with what you are saying and feeling. Sometimes I tell my friends and family if I can't defend or justify Mariah's behavior or actions then you know it's kinda not so good hopefully she will get new professional management. She has it in her to clean up this whole mess and give people a new memorable "era" the lambily deserves this and so does Mariah. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:27)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,268) (74,270) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I hope you get the courage someday to come back with your original screen name. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:22)

Re: The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,267) (74,269) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes Licia, completely agree with you. How "it" started makes me wonder too. It all reminds me of a bad soap opera. I also don't trust Bryan completely, because of the things that were already mentioned on this board. The thing with Mr. Packer was the weirdest for me and then right after that mess Mr. Tanaka showed his "love". Mariah seems to hate to be alone. I wish she would love herself enough to spend some time alone. And then let "real" people into her life/inner circle. Maybe one day. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:56)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,264) (74,268) by Mort from Spain I hope you find true love someday. It must hurt beeing so negative. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:33)

Re: The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,263) (74,267) by Licia from USA I personally don't care about his looks, his age, or his job. If that is really who she wants then she should be with who makes her happy. I just don't believe this "relationship" is real for either him or Mariah. I hope I'm wrong because she deserves to be happy and even though I'm critical of it all I want that for her, but it just seems fake. I also don't like how this all started. She was engaged to another man, but she's bumping, grinding, and flirting with someone else on camera. I can't really be the only person who found something to be wrong with that? (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:13)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,258) (74,266) by RibbonB from USA Remember that is probably just Stella trying to sell her fiction and a wack MW DVD. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:44)

Re: One more thing (74,261) (74,265) by RibbonB from USA Exactly. I love that Anthony made that parting shot, that MW was a show created for dummies who believe whatever they want them to believe. Snakanaka is just getting his moment off of Mimi's dime. Thirstbot in action. Anyone who would actively contribute to Mariah's drinking, possible drugging and image muddying is not to be trusted. Stella is just a snake. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:42)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,257) (74,264) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm having an "on the bathroom floor moment" Lila, preach girl, preach. I am surprised at how naive some people are or how they will do anything to make sense of something that doesn't make sense. I was actually going to write a similar post with similar points but you nailed it and came with the receipts. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:20)

The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,263) by Andrew from UK It is possible that people doubt Tanaka's love for Mariah because he is young and fit, and she is, well, not those things. Thus, it being all about the money is probably the thinking. When she met Nick Cannon she was fit and extremely attractive. Now, she is not so, so the logic falls by the wayside. But, maybe, just maybe, they get on. I can't imagine they have in-depth conversations about the Syrian crisis or the plight of the Amazonian rainforests but I'm sure they are on the same level somewhere on some other plain. In fact, on some other *plane*. It's only really flying around the world and dining out and getting drunk. Sounds like a f*cking riot to me. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:19)

The art of letting go of bad lyricism (74,262) by Andrew from UK That Mariah leaves her songs "open to interpretation" is logical. To then tell someone that what they think a song is about is not correct and that you alone have the insight is not. In respect of the lyric, "Got a bundle of your possessions outside the kitchen window right now" the only poetic meaning I can attach to this would be that 1. Mariah is trivialising the quantity/quality of the possessions of the person she is ejecting from the home (that is to say, he didn't bring much in the first place), and, 2. she is flipping a symbol of female subjugation in its head (here, the "kitchen") and aligning it with a story of positive self-empowerment (that is to say, the "weak woman" just realised it is not she who is the weak one). This would suggest the song is about pseudo-macho Nick "my wife" Cannon. Yet, I may just be attaching a deep meaning to otherwise lazy lyrics designed, alongside others in Mariah's recent catalogue, to make her sound fun, cool and relevant, instead of universal, or as she unendingly states, "schmaltzy". And, anyway, who cares who Mariah's lyrics are about? It doesn't really help her sell records as people dont really buy into her woe-is-me narrative anymore. Indeed, the fact that the song might be about Nick Cannon makes me like it a lot less immediately, even. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:01)

One more thing (74,261) by Lila from United States Yes, Bryan has been around for a little while now. However, again, I don't know if some have been on another planet or living under rocks but he's been doing nothing that's any different from the rest of the current circus and we've still got the same nonsense that we've been getting. Any fan has to be living in a dream world if they think that this man is of any help to Mariah. The past two years have shown that anyone who doesn't kiss Mariah's ass, act like she can do no wrong, or is a threat to the current status quo, head Leech or Leech co. don't last long. Most recently, Danielle and Anthony, both with horrible stories following their departures. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:41)

Re: Benny Medina (74,253) (74,260) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Your last sentence must have caused a "clutching pearls" moment among the "real lambs". Edward is a G.O.A.T. (Greatest of All Time). (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:34)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,256) (74,259) by MusicfanJ from Germany I think Bryan deserves a chance as long as he's good for Mariah. I mean to say he has a bad character only because he's good-looking, young and a dancer that's also superficial and not fair. I think he's not the one who's destroying her image. He seems to be a nice and funny person. The "Russian clan" is what still worries me. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:24)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,254) (74,258) by Lila from United States Do you or anyone else know him personally to tell me that I'm wrong? I know what I'm seeing and speaking on it. I, quite frankly, could care less if that makes you or anyone else on this board or anyone anywhere else see me as judgmental. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:20)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,256) (74,257) by Lila from United States Research on him and their "relationship"? Yeah right. I'm not taking a stab in the dark about anything. The facts are staring me right in my face. 1) If he's the only "good thing" you can see in Mariah's life right now, then you need to get your eyes fixed because Monroe and Moroccan Scott Cannon hold that title. 2) If he took his career so seriously, his ass would be out working, not following Mariah from point A to point B. He has time to snap himself on every vacation but you don't see hide nor hair of anything that could point towards him earning a living from dance. 3) Mariah's love of him being her dumbass in crime is not the same as her loving him or being so happy. I guess some must be falling for Mariah's Mariah's World alternative facts. Yes, let's look over their relationship last year to this one. She gave him a weak ass lap dance and was grinding on him while wearing another man's engagement ring and still is. Then, when news broke that James dumped her and I'm going to assume she tried calling him and found her number was blocked or going to voicemail, so that statement to the press about working things out was useless, then we got the uprising of Bryan. Mariah could've broken up with Packer at any time to get with Bryan, if she was so in love with him, but she didn't. She still wears the ring he gave her that symbolizes their would be union and though I've had my thoughts about that "relationship" the ring itself still symbolizes that. Some love and respect she has for him. He can't be blind to any of this. 4) Of course Mariah looks happy in pictures. She didn't call the paparazzi up (no paps don't magically know where celebrities are, the celebs call them) to look sad. In many pictures their body language says celebrity and the guy paid to escort her to the car and in most cases his level of excitement looks a lot higher than hers does. In fact, I think Bryan makes Mariah happy. I just know it's on the same level that Stella and every other kiss ass makes her happy. She needs an ego stroke and he's one of many that fits the bill. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:12)

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