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Re: Mariah's World on dvd (74,147) (74,156)
by Lila from United States
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Not even if my life depended on me buying it.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 04:16)
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Re: Something all great female artists have in common (74,151) (74,155)
by Edouard from France
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Okay the censoring completely destroyed my post and makes it sound like I said bad things towards Céline. I'm not referencing Céline obviously .
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 02:56)
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Re: Mariah's World on dvd (74,147) (74,154)
by RibbonB from USA
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Oh you like side scents and candybling, but not side shows and circuses? Same here. I like records, ribbons and Roc and Roe, but bats or rats and Russian reality show rejects got to go.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 02:18)
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Re: Mariah's World on dvd (74,147) (74,153)
by B from USA
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Same here. The makeup and perfumes are the only aide projects that seem to have been well thought out. Almost forgot the Christmas book. Hoping the AIFCIY cartoon is another well thought one.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 02:17)
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Re: AI producers (74,142) (74,152)
by Edouard from France
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I believe Mariah agreed to do Idol on the condition that it would be a quality show. She saw an opportunity to reintroduce real artistry in the medium (hence her comments on the importance of songwritting) and was led to believe it would be all about the music. Instead she became part of a circus that she had no input on, that was no her at all. She probably felt trapped because, obviously, she could not get away from it once she had signed. I think it is incredibly violent to be put in that position where your image, everything you have worked for and stand for, is used and abused like that. No matter how many millions it represents. It must be a horrible feeling to be paid that much and to be denied the right to publicly complain about it. Because that wouldn't be PC of course. So she just went with it, no matter the cost. I think that's why Mariah believes she has to surround herself with people who are not to be toyed with. Mariah, women in general, are not being respected by the music business.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 01:42)
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Re: Something all great female artists have in common (74,137) (74,151)
by Edouard from France
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I'm not sure I was clear enough in my earlier post, especially regarding [...] whom I believe can't enounciate properly. Her diction sounds like yogourt more than English. The women I mentioned women are incredible women. I forgot Céline I'm sorry. [...] is so full of herself and so early in her [...] it's unbelievable. If you listen to Mariah's early interviews, you can sense that she holds her talent dear and that's she's proud of her artistry as a validation of who she is. Yet she never comes across as someone who has "arrived". She only allows to project that vibe now, more than 20 years into her career. And to be honest I don't mind. She's earned it
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 01:34)
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American Idol producers attack Mariah: RJJ (74,150)
by Ty from USA
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I only watched Idol to see Mariah and loved her moments. Once she left I was over it. Miss you.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 01:04)
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I'm Free on IG (74,149)
by Ty from USA
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Has anyone noticed I'm Free is everywhere on IG today?
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 00:51)
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American Idol producers attack Mariah (74,148)
by Ty from USA
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Hi Annie I know you missed me, I love the gay community, yessssss ms cha cha catch that.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 00:48)
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Mariah's World on dvd (74,147)
by Licia from USA
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So are yall going to order on April 11th? I'm leaving it at the store. I'll use that money to get me some more of the pink perfume she made. I'm running low. The perfume is the only side deal I fully support. Lol.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 00:43)
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The best judge on Idol (74,146)
by Edward from USA
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Mariah shouldn't have signed up to be a judge on Idol. Not all money is good money. She didn't sue them because she wasn't ever promised to be the only female judge on the panel. Had there been a clause on the contract stating so, she would've sued the hell out of them for sure. She should've just walked away with her millions and be done with it, but she was the first one that started throwing shades, nothing is ever her fault. She was there to judge based on her vast knowledge of music, yet she let her diva persona take over, like when she got late to one of the auditions, and then stated: "Dahling, If you want a diva, you have to pay the price." Well, if you play the diva role long enough, then you also have to pay the price, and you've been paying for a while now. Nicki is nowhere near Mariah's talent and knowledge of music, yet she was definitely a better judge. Mariah got lost in being nice all the time, and that's not what the competition was necessarily about. It's not about hurting people's feelings like Simon used to do sometimes, but it isn't about being afraid to say something that might make the contestants feel bad when they have clearly f*d up. Being the most influential figure in music to have ever sat on that panel, all eyes were on her and her expertise, but she fell flat and forgot why she was there. I don't think that was a 20 million job. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle, and just because Mariah portrays herself a victim of Idol, it doesn't mean she necessarily was. When Mariah kept things classy and didn't bite into bitchy questions, she was perceived better. But things keep getting worse, and it is not necessarily due to the company she keeps. Mariah sabotages Mariah. She's very well seasoned and experienced in the music business, so nobody is really using her as a puppet as some here tend to think.
(Wednesday 5 April 2017; 00:01)
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Re: AI producers (74,141) (74,145)
by Marissa from USA
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Mariah made it clear from the beginning that her issue regarding the Nicki situation was about her being another female on the panel. It didn't matter if Nicki was a singer, composer, producer or rapper. Mariah wanted to be the only woman there. There could be as many men there as humanly possible, just not another woman. How no one sees this thought process as problematic is beyond me. Do you ever hear men saying, "I want to be the only man there or all bets are off"? Yes I think Nicki was wrong for completely coming unhinged on Mariah but I also think it wasn't fair for Mariah to be shady to her from the beginning just because she's a woman. When people say women are just as hard on other women as men are, this is the type of stuff they're talking about. Also, Simon and Randy were not singers and Paula could barely sing, so it's not like hiring Nicki was that much off the mark. The premise of the show was never about singers judging other singers. It was about people in the industry judging singers. If we're keeping it real Mariah was the first and last qualified person that they ever hired as a judge for AI.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 23:17)
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Re: Idol producers (74,128) (74,144)
by B from USA
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This is a disgruntled former Fox executive looking for an easy payday.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 21:22)
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Re: AI producers (74,142) (74,143)
by RibbonB from USA
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Yup, that is the bottom line. The minute Idol producers showed their hand, she should have stepped back, or gotten some kind of agreement before taping. She saw that mess coming. AI producers were definitely messy and disrespectful, but Mariah can't keep jumping into the shark tank and expect that others are going to help her, or "do right by her". They are expecting her to sink or swim. Mariah has to learn to stay out of dirty or shark infested waters especially when she has plenty or forewarning, or even a few hours or minutes of forewarning like on NYE. She has got to be in charge of herself and just say no.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 20:36)
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Re: AI producers (74,141) (74,142)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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To be fair, they also had had Ellen on the show as a judge before and she is in no way related the music industry. Mariah shouldn't have gone on the show, she was above it and also she isn't the type to criticize aspiring artists. But I guess she thought her role would be different. Oh well, whatever done is done, all parties should move on. This is ridiculous to be bringing this up now and stirring new drama because now everyone will be like "What did Mariah do?"
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 18:08)
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AI producers (74,141)
by Jono from USA
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How about the fact that you hired a hack to judge a singing competition. You have Mariah, the greatest pop vocalist to have ever existed on this planet, working with a clown who can't even hold a tune. This was beneath her, and you pulled a classic bait and switch trying to get Mariah on board. Stop it with this whole only female scapegoat. If that was really the case, Mariah would not have handpicked her to costar with her in a music video. The producers were desperate to revive sinking ratings and thoroughly enjoyed the controversy, drama, and ratings. AI became such an absolute joke when it started crowning mediocre winners with no viable commercial success. The hack had absolutely no right sitting on the panel judging a singing competition.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 16:53)
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Re: American Idol producers attack Mariah (74,139) (74,140)
by RibbonB from USA
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I agree, they need to let it go. The show faded out and does not need to be revived.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 15:18)
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Re: American Idol producers attack Mariah (74,136) (74,139)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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True, all parties were at fault, AI should have been more clear about their panel selection decisions and also they can complain all they want about Mariah or Nicki but truth remains that they leaked the footage and they used it for promotions to get ratings. This isn't new, most reality shows feed off drama, so now for them to pretend that they are innocent and didn't use it to their advantage (or that they played no part in starting it) is a blatant lie. Second, Mariah's part. I've said this before, but the first dig at Nicki was thrown by Mariah on the first episode. I don't know if they had fights prior to that, but on the first episode, Mariah walks in an throws shade at Nicki's head piece. Mariah also could have used this AI opportunity to just simply teaming up with Nicki and making a statement that she doesn't feel threatened by anyone, you know, throw in a little woman empowerment moment. Lastly Nicki, now we know Nicki is this bratty loud mouth, and I think it was very inappropriate for her to talk about shooting Mariah or hitting Mariah, it's not cool. All in all they could have just resolved this by now, by just chatting up. But oh well, but ya AI needs to focus on putting a quality show up instead of trying to drag up a 4 year old feud. Lame move. I hope the reboot doesn't happen.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 10:06)
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Re: Source criticism (74,134) (74,138)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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It's a bad word when you use it as a bad word, same way if you call a heavy person a "cow" or a silly person a "donkey" or call someone a pig. This is assuming the word was a farm animal which someone we know is notorious for using. Context dahlin, context.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 09:56)
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Re: Something all great female artists have in common (74,133) (74,137)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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True. Ariana has some potential, and her latest album, as derivative as it is, still shows that. But it's one thing to stay silent and blow everyone away with the actual output, it's another to think you're the s***, hype your creativity up only to underwhelm in the end. And with Britney, I always feel protective of her because although she may not be the best singer, she still shares Madonna's great ear for what sounds cool, though to a lesser extent. To me, you can kick Rihanna off that list of greats. I love me some RiRi, I have most of her albums, but her impact and popularity has never even come close to the fever pitch that Britney had at her prime.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 09:32)
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Re: American Idol producers attack Mariah (74,131) (74,136)
by Licia from USA
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I agree that AI should have been up front with Mariah about what they planned to do, but at the end of the day it really should not have mattered who the 4th judge was. I don't believe AI told her she'd be the only female judge. AI, Mariah, and Nicki are all at fault because they all could have handled it better. Everybody involved had their moments of acting like 3 year olds having tantrums.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 03:09)
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Re: American Idol producers attack Mariah (74,131) (74,135)
by Lila from United States
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I think all of it is correct. No one's hands are clean. Hindsight being 20/20, everyone was dumb. AI should've never promised Mariah that she would be the only female judge on the panel. As a talent show, it would be a hard request to fill, anyway. Had that season not been such a nightmare, I could've seen Mariah returning for another season but what if something happened to another judge and they needed a replacement but could only get a woman who was willing to participate? There goes that little promise. They may have wanted her as a judge but they shouldn't have let that cloud reality. Mariah should've never asked to be the only female judge. Get your insecurities in check or stay home. Also, she should've just been a woman about it and step to Nicki, before things got out of hand, and told her that she didn't mean any disrespect, she was just trying to avoid any would be drama, it was nothing personal. I was really turned off by Nicki's actions at that time but, again, hindsight being 20/20, I can see where she was coming from. I highly doubt most women could say that they wouldn't have been taken aback, offended, or felt unwelcome if they found out a co-worker of theirs only wanted to be the only female on the team. Still, Nicki's a grown woman and she shouldn't have done the things she did either. Everyone was acting like children.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 02:53)
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Re: Source criticism (74,129) (74,134)
by Mort from Spain
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It wasn't a homophobic word and not about the Nigel thing. It's overall about Mariah's "fans" bashing her for her life decisions. Btw it was a four letter word that apparently was a bad word.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 02:27)
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Something all great female artists have in common (74,133)
by Edouard from France
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I believe Mariah, Mary J, Beyoncé, Janet, even Madonna, Rihanna and Britney Spears (whom I don't think is a great artist per say but I recognize her importance in the pop world and I like her as a person) all have something in common: they are opened to their vulnerability as much as they are strong, fearless and powerful. They are all humbled by their success and it took them years to fully own their status. Side note: I watched an interview about Ariana Grande today and I almost chocked when she bragged about her artistry and her songwriting like it was nothing.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 01:14)
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Article: Guess who's to blame for "American Idol" feud (74,132)
by Robin Elkins from United States
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Bull hockey.
(Tuesday 4 April 2017; 00:56)
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