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R Kelly (68,721) by RibbonB from USA I see he has been tweeting Mariah about possibly working together. I hope not. Mariah needs to sing alone, at least that is my preference. Please don't waste your time with an old joke. Perhaps he could write her a song, but there are so many good songwriters out there that she can work with. But, she will do what she will do. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 17:36)

Re: Oprah (68,716) (68,720) by RibbonB from USA Shawn is not gay as you seem to be saying. He seems to indicate otherwise on twitter and based on this bio. They referred to Mariah as his famous cousin, but we know he is her nephew/brother as she always says. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 17:32)

Mariah's AIWFCIY is on radio rotation (68,719) by MusicfanJ from Germany I just came home and started the radio and Mariah was playing with the ultimate Christmas song. For me the season is officially here. I love MC and MCIIY so much, both are just Mariah at her best. So please no more drama for at least 4 weeks. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 16:46)

Randy (68,718) by Gilles from Malta I do agree with you Randy as well, you did remind me a feeling that I had back in day in 1996 when I was to the Daydream tour in Paris. This feeling was like what happened with her album named Butterfly. I didn't get what happened to her voice. Daydream was filled with a powerful voice and the first time I heard at the radio Honey, I was like... is it really her singing this track, it was like not the same voice anymore. For sure something did happen, we all know that she left Tommy, went through a divorce and a lot of drama and stress, we will certainly never really know what happened, but we can guess it through her art cause she kind of refused to answer to all those questions that are certainly too private. A lot of conspiracy theories were born from those days. Her image had changed and she looked current and sexy more than ever, she was more praised for her body and the fun than her way to make music, she battled in a certain way on the two sides, but people liked to treat her as a diva, media and people treat her this way and she has become one, it is a kind of picture, an icon or as certain philosophers would say an imago dei or in the Indian culture an avatar because that was what the main audience kind of wanted. Now that she is acting or not as one, everybody is asking for her to come back to what she was. Marylin Monroe life style means not be understood by anyone. Live on TV doesn't make a lot of sense anymore now a day, because it is mixed and arranged to deliver a certain quality, I do agree with you that I would love that Mariah does something new adapted to her current voice but would the people follow her this way or would they criticize the new picture with her successful past? Regarding her job and ours I do agree that we haven't the right to do any mistake, but we have a job that can not be compared to her, it is like some professionals sportive taking steroids or drugs to reach number one position, people are cheating it is not new after it depends which partnership, sponsors and other stuff but it is another subject. Mariah is a myth between the Greek and the Egyptian mythology and she is now a true legend. But as many of those myths, stories or whatever, sometimes the illusion is too intense for being taken seriously and create frustration, love, anger, obsession, adoration, disciples, stories. In my case I would say that I do enjoy everything that is new depending even if I do or not like it (for example I am not a fan of Infinity, Touch My Body) but I do appreciate them as a new work and material. I do regret one thing, I grew up with Mariah's voice and lyrics and music, it did follow my journey in the circle of life, I am a bit out of it now, because I am lucky and happy, I've found love, Mariah gave me her support in my drama past life and I will always be grateful to her, I hope that one day the drama will stop for her and for other people as well for being inspired in another way. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 16:26)

Re: Mariah, MC, Mimi (68,714) (68,717) by Tijl from Belgium I really enjoyed reading your statement. However I would like to point out that the DFAU performance was actually amazing knowing that she suffered from technical mishaps. As the earpiece was not working she couldn't hear her own voice so she basically sung the song from her memory. That is why she received the standing ovation. One can see her pulling out the earpiece at a certain point and continue the performance without. I have to agree with many fans that I am worried about where her career is going. Furthermore I honestly miss the real Mimi. What happened to the perfectionist professional singer? She is surrounded by dubious people (I can't even mention her name any longer as I find her atrocious) who crave on her fame and fortune for their own benefit. Interviews these days are tedious and superficial. The outfits are proposterous and degrading. She has become a charicature. Let's pray she is not heading full speed to a Michael Jackson finale. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 13:29)

Re: Oprah (68,710) (68,716) by THE TRUTH from USA It's sweet that Mariah paid for his education. Having Alisson for a mother can't have been easy, even these days being black and gay at Harvard was probably no easy road either. Nice that his auntie had his back. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 13:26)

Mariah's live singing (68,715) by darrian liu from taiwan Is actually improving right now, but she could do much better and possibly change the public perception of her voice if she rearranges her songs, ala TGIFY. The problem is she won't budge and continue to sing her songs in her original arrangements (although the keys are lowered), and that's what making people constantly compare her voice now with her 90s voice. Mariah sounds (all caps) magical in acoustic settings, just look at what happened in Jimmy Fallon (both the surprise and the Christmas one) and those various TGIFY Vegas performances. It seems like her pride is too big for her to see those possibilities and accept that her voice just isn't the same anymore. And when you encounter change, you have to adapt and that's what she's supposed to do. Pull a Lady Gaga (her AMAs performance is poignant, absolutely beautiful) and do stripped down performances with just a guitar and make new vocal arrangements for her current voice, I know that for sure, she can't lip in those performances (the backing track would really sound out of place and obvious) and so she has to sing live. My All acoustic and Vision of Love acoustic would sound super lovely, don't you think? (Sunday 27 November 2016; 8:34)

Re: Mariah, MC, Mimi (68,713) (68,714) by Randy from USA I have to first say your post was well written and very respectful but I have to strongly disagree. See there's a few things at play here. Firstly that MC is having vocal problems is nothing new. In 96 when she had the Tokyo concert she sounded amazing. The next time we saw her sing live was the Oprah performance in 97 and she struggled and lip syncd. Something had changed. She never addressed it. She's had many great performances since 97, but mostly it's touch and go, with background singers being loud and backing tracks. It's not for preservation of her voice. Tina Turner, Chaka Khan, Patti Labelle and Aretha Franklin held on to their voices for decades without issue. Now their voices are starting to fray but Mariah frayed in 97 and was really going through a rough spot in 98, 99 and 2000. She had only been out a couple years. Now we can all speculate it was recording an album every year with three remixes per single. Or it was her starting to hang with rappers that smokes in the studio and her splashes. I think the sheer disgust is the amount of deception involved. Check out her performance of DFAU at the AMAs in 2006. She sounded horrible during the verses and lip syncd the final chorus and got a standing ovation. And there's always some excuse. I used to think a little rain cloud was following MC around to purposely screw up her performances. Oh an ear monitor, oh the AC, oh I have food poisoning, oh the casket was in front of me, oh it's too early to sing, oh it's cold outside at this outside concert, oh I didn't get enough sleep. Those are all things she has literally said. As a school teacher, if I don't teach guess what? I get fired. So what happens when a singer doesn't sing? Nothing. And she commands $1 million for a personal concert. I don't quite make that much. Sarcasm. I love MC. The depth in her body of work, makes her counterparts seem so surface. She is a true artist. But the deception is repugnant. And when Whitney had issues with her voice she went out like a soldier. Let me say this. I'm not saying all hope is lost. I used to think that until the Impromptu for Jimmy Fallon and the fans. Even some of the Vegas performances had me surprised. But when it comes to American television and high stakes whereas everyone is watching performances, she folds like a card table. And lambs keep forgetting that she is considered one of the best of all time. We should not even be having these arguments. And if there is a problem, why does she continue to make difficult arrangements and create songs she can't perform live. I hated Infinity, but my first though was, she can't sing this live. I had the same thought when she recorded One More Try and Heavenly on MIAMTEC. I want her to have integrity. I don't think as a die hard I am asking too much. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 3:01)

Mariah, MC, Mimi (68,713) by Gilles from Malta Let's be real, please. If we want to keep Mariah in the business for long we fans, lambs or whatever, we have to understand that she needs to lipp to keep her voice in a good shape. She feeds us a lot thanks to medias, social medias, world tour, albums, tv appareances, Christmas concert, Christmas TV show and I am sure that we "fans" are certainly more demanding than her. Ok it is her job, but I do not think as an artist that she wants to damage her voice (gift, talent) to satisfy all of us, she needs to protect it, because she won't even be able to live without her gift. If we all wait for the voice crack it means that she has never left "[...]", are we worse than Mottola? Regarding her life style, Mariah in her childhood had nothing, the materialistic experience came at her 21. She is in that world for a long time now. Regarding her own world, I would not like to be in, material world is a display and it is thanks to her children family and entourage that she keeps grounded or not, I am pretty sure that sometimes she just dreams to fly away. Celebrity comes with a price that is not about money but no privacy and "we watch her falling down" so she learns the art of letting go, it is what it is. Everything happens for a reason and she knows that. I know Mariah the artist side but I do not know her, judging is so easy. I am one of those lucky fans who was to 4 concerts. It was magical, the voice always been there, interlude, interromptu, sometimes it did switch to lipp, so what? First I was like most of us, saying it is unfair, but it is fair for the artist. She is a singer, she will remain as a singer. If she is recording in studio her voice must keep warm and not too much used. And regarding some songs, we know that a song is a mood and as she is an artist, it can happen that she doesn't feel in the mood. Sometimes she is in the mood when the Grigio flows, I know some artists that can only be creative high or drunk or in their own world. Let's not talk please about all those singers, painter, philosophers that made earth cry jump with their songs or their art because I do not want to talk about them but there are so many. It is pleasant to watch some of the new generation discovering Mariah through the time, they are discovering an artist that they didn't really know with plenty of lives performance, remixes, side B, there are amazed with a spark in their eyes. Older fans like me we are waiting for something new stuff every months even every days (joking but close to the reality). Let's be more comprehensive and supportive. Whatever the situation, MC is that singer that one day opened your heart more than ever and we felt a connection, some people call it love. Anyway we could write a novel about it. Have a nice weekend. (Sunday 27 November 2016; 0:05)

Re: Comeback (68,705) (68,712) by Will from England I have to disagree with your statement that Mariah has toured very little (recently I assume). She's been performing more or less consistently since the start of her Vegas show, had the successful SSFT run, Beacon shows, Hallmark special, private shows for various people, Essence etc. so this is most she has performed since forever on a consistent basis. Her voice, compared to that (capital letters) AIWFCIY performance and the beginning of TEC tour, is considerably better than what it was. It is 100%? Not really, it has its rough days but she's belting and experimenting with more confidence than she was. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 22:20)

Re: Stella (68,706) (68,711) by RibbonB from USA Yes let's call her Crustella de Calabasas. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 20:35)

Re: Oprah (68,707) (68,710) by RibbonB from USA I said counsel slash nephew. She put him through law school, so that should entitle her to his legal advice. Lol. I know he has another job for Nike I believe. Note he was seen out with her when she and Nick made their separation public and interestingly he was there around the time of the JP breakup this summer. I notice he tweeted her ring, with some statement from song lyrics. Anyway, she should have at least one family member who is looking out for her. Hopefully that is the case, because she has always looked out for him. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 20:34)

Divas scares the hell out of me (68,708) by Randy from USA Here's the thing, I do sometimes you guys are too harsh but when I see what's being put out there for public conception, I'm like damn this is why the lambs are turning on her. Whoever just said it needs to be about the voice is correct. Lower the keys of songs, and stop having your background singers cover for you or backing tracks for that matter. She can still do something at live shows but as far as American television, she always falls apart. And for the last time MC's voice isn't in disrepair because of 27 years in the business, she started fraying in 98. Watch Vision Of Love on The View from 1998. She let Celine upstage her on Testimony. Whitney upstaged her at the Oscars in 99. None of that would have been possible in 95. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 20:18)

Re: Oprah (68,699) (68,707) by Lannister from USA Shawn doesn't work for her - he graduated from Harvard Law School and worked at a law firm for a decade. I think he's at a sports-apparel company as an executive now. He's definitely a bit of a snob on twitter, though at least he doesn't hide it. Ha. I think Mariah went to Oprah's school opening in Africa a while ago. I think they're close. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 19:59)

Re: Oprah (68,700) (68,706) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha Crustella, "I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke singer." (Saturday 26 November 2016; 19:22)

Re: Comeback (68,701) (68,705) by Andrew from UK Given that Mariah has toured very little and when she does tour the high, belting or difficult parts (not even the difficult parts anymore) are lipped, why does Mariah's voice continue to decline so much? People may emphasise how long she's been in the business for, but this is misdirection. In reality, relatively speaking, she really hasn't done that much actual singing. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 18:19)

Re: Comeback (68,692) (68,701) by Tameka walker from United states I just want to say it was my personal opinion. You have a right to feel the way you feel and so do I. If you watch [...] who is now off the air people wanted to be the next Mariah Carey. At some point in time so did Christina, Ariana [...]. Mariah does not sing like [...] once did because she has been in the business for 26 going on 27 years. That is a very long time to be recording music. [...] voice will suffer some normal wear and tear. [...] is to be expected. Once these ladies record for as being long as Mariah their voices will change as well too. Grant Mariah is known for her drinking and all but that is her personal business. She can still out sing most of these women on a bad day. I am a fan of her voice and music period. I personally think she she is prolific musician. That none of these wannabes can't touch. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 17:03)

Re: Oprah (68,698) (68,700) by RibbonB from USA Oprah always reminds people of what infamous comedian Bill Cosby used to say, "always sign your own checks". Let's hope Mariah is at least taking heed to that advice and not letting Crustella and crew handle all of her money. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 16:50)

Re: Oprah (68,698) (68,699) by RibbonB from USA Shawn seems nice enough, if a bit egotistical. He also seems to be the eternal enabler. I am sure he is her nephew/legal counsel. He knows all about what she is doing but can't seem to stop her. As for the kids, Mariah said in February that she hadn't really told the kids because the really can't understand. The kids also are used to their parents annual vow renewals, so they know quite a bit about wedding outfits. I've said for months that they have been telegraphing what they planned to do and a real wedding never seemed in the cards to me at least not with M and JP. Who knows who she might end up with in the show though. Lol. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 16:45)

Re: Oprah (68,695) (68,698) by Lila from United States Speaking of Oprah, Vogue Australia just did an article about what was seen in the Mariah's World premiere episode. Oprah was mentioned: "Oprah told me 'don't let anybody think that you don't put your own shoes on anymore' and she's really right," Carey tells viewers in her new E. docu series (premiering 1pm and 9. 30pm, December 5), as an assistant laces her into a pair of skyscraper platform heels. I felt that peice of information coincidentally poignant right now? IMO Oprah is trying to say don't lose touch or let others think you've lost touch or can't do for yourself/function on the most basic of levels. Mariah surely needs to follow that advice but doesn't. The article also says: "But by the first episode's end, the wedding is already looking shaky as Carey makes the decision to postpone the nuptials, originally planned for March, so she can focus on her 27-concert, 25 country Sweet Sweet Fantasy tour." This reminded me of an article I read earlier this year and I went searching for it to check the date and sure enough, it was dated March 2016 lol. If any of you saw or didn't see it, it's the one that, not only said that the wedding was postponed indefinitely, it also said, in the most nicest way possible actually lol, that Packer's momma, Roslyn, didn't like Mariah. Woman's Day sure did have their finger on the pulse with this relationship. This was before the narrative changed to Nick holding up the process and Mariah and Roslyn "growing closer" lol. I guess TMZ was right also, it was just going to be a commitment ceremony. I guess Stella was really passing them off the truth. Before Packer abruptly ended their 10-month engagement last month, the singer and songwriter took her Mariah's World film crew to a wedding dress fitting - showing fans a glimpse of the fitted, princess-style couture gown, featuring a belted waist and delicate lace, embroidered with white sequins and pale pink beading, she had planned to wear. Her daughter, nicknamed Roe (and named after her movie idol, Marilyn) also had a flower girl dress chosen and is filmed gasping at her "pretty momma". Son, Moroccan (their father is TV presenter, Nick Cannon), marvels at his mother and says, innocently: "She looks like she's gonna start to marry somebody." I know Mariah said that she hadn't told the twins she was engaged to Packer but come the entire [censored] on. How do you have the twins with you, trying on gowns, Roe has a flower girl dress, and Roc is talking like he thinks you're just playing dress up. Marry "somebody"? You were supposed to be marrying James, a specific man that everyone else already knew about. That is going to look so stupid to people. Also, taking into account the previous quote that says that the "nuptials" were planned for March, it really seems like she was just going to spring this shit on Moroccan and Monroe. "Oh, by the way, my loves, the man whose been awkwardly tagging along with us, I'm going to marry him." Last one: "Interestingly, she introduces the audience to her nephew Shawn McDonald who works for his famous aunty but is not so impressed by her racy wardrobe choices. In denial about her penchant for plunging necklines, he refers to them as 'turtle necks' and explains: 'When she came out with Touch My Body I renamed it Touch My Elbow so that I could be comfortable with it.'" I didn't know Shawn works for Mariah. I believe he's a lawyer. Right? Does he handle some of the legal aspects of her brand, if anyone knows? Personally, I find him to be annoying and a few other choice words. Full article here. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 15:41)

Re: My All and TGIFY live proved she can sing (68,694) (68,697) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines And that's what's frustrating. She does show glimmers of potential. Why not go all out? Leave it all out there? In 2009, Whitney was at her worst vocally, and yet she wasn't ashamed of disappointing fans, even with the backlash that ensued. At least she was being real. Everybody knows Mariah's voice has gone through hell. There's no point in keeping up the illusion that she can still sing like she can in the 90s. Sing the entire chorus and climax of My All. Sing IDWC all throughout. If that's too hard, then drop a key like she did with Emotions. This is all about pride, when people will actually be more accepting of her if she shows that she's vocally flawed. It's this charade that turns some off. She's a vocalist, period. That doesn't mean that she can't do anything else onstage to improve herself as an entertainer, but if she's trying to fool everyone to keep this image of her being a perfect singer when in fact she isn't, then what will be left of her in the future? It's bad enough that her image is at its worst since Glitter. The voice should at least buoy her back up. Focus on that. She still has it. She just doesn't use it to her advantage because she's either scared or lazy, and that's a shame. It's one thing to know the limitations of your current voice. It's an entirely different thing to try to make the audience think you still can do it like you did in the past by using playback way too much - and being bad at it. Wake up, Mariah. Come back. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 11:56)

Oprah (68,695) by Butterfly from I recommend therapy sessions with Oprah Winfrey. I find her behavior really disturbing. Her ego, diva antics and obsession with money, diamonds, her boobs and attention. Why can't she be humble and appreciative? She was blessed with a godly talent. Use that talent in a positive way. She's so into herself it scares me. It's not cute and respectful to be late all the time. I loved Ellen's attitude. And I wish she stopped with that fake dumb personage. Get over yourself and get some humble therapy with Oprah. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 3:34)

My All and TGIFY live proved she can sing (68,694) by Ty from USA I saw it live several times, she can still sing. She still has some power, some of the lower register while she is still playing tricks with the whistles. The woman clearly can still sing. You all are way to harsh. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 2:40)

Re: Comeback (68,692) (68,693) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Still from her. The studio perfectionist, roided-out, hundred take-r, super-engineered version of her. And we still haven't talked about the proper production process. So in a weird way, it's like having Britney in the studio, only older and with much more vocal expertise that she probably can still tap into live if she really tried and wanted to, but would rather mime, touch herself and gyrate awkwardly, because apparently that's what really matters now. (Saturday 26 November 2016; 1:35)

Re: Comeback (68,689) (68,692) by Andrew from UK Can we stop with the "imitation of Mariah Carey" nonsense. Granted, her use of melisma and vocal acrobatics outdid most people 92-95, but Christina Aguilera after 2002 did not imitate Mariah. Not many people do. They realised they can't pull it off. However, facts are facts. Mariah's voice is [censored]. She's lip-syncing Infuhmuzz. She can't reach anything out of two octaves. We can all pray for a new album, which I am sure will have amazing acrobatics. But she can't actually produce this shit in person. So, I have to ask, where are these sounds coming from? (Saturday 26 November 2016; 0:15)

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