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Re: Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,151) (71,153) (71,167) by Philipp from Switzerland it's tough to say which song I like better. I like both songs, because they are very personal. I really love the live version of "Close My Eyes" at the Rosie O Donnel Show. She sings it so emotional and you can really tell how she is feeling the lyrics. Especially the bridge is amazing. The album version on the other hand is more "quiet". (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 20:38)

Jazmine Sullivan, Darryl Camper, MC collaboration (71,166) by Bobby A from United States Darryl "Hey DJ" Camper just retweeted my tweet about him being in the studio with Mariah Carey and Jazmine Sullivan. It must be true. Go checkout his twitter page. No joke. I can't wait to hear their song. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 19:52)

Re: Why [...] mad? (71,143) (71,165) by Marissa from USA What I don't understand is why people who have heard and witnessed how "negative" this board is keep coming back for more? What is the payoff if you hate almost every post here? I can understand having an issue with 1 or 2 people's harshness on here, but almost everyone? You're torturing yourself. "Positive" lambs always make it seem like Mariah just won a Grammy last night, an Oscar the day before that, and has a #1 album on the charts and we're still here complaining despite how great things are going. They never provide context to anyone's "negativity" and make it seem like everyone just woke up mad at Mariah instead of seeing it as a reaction to something specific happening in her life or career. As of now, Mariah's ability to sing is being questioned or completely rejected worldwide, many people are excited that she failed because they think she has a bad attitude anyway and needed to be humbled, they think that the DCP foiled/sabotage comments are her lying and making up excuses, people are calling her old and irrelevant, etc. This isn't exactly a sunshine and rainbows type of time, so why you're shocked by negative comments is beyond me. At some point people are going to understand that the influx of "negative" lambs is not random, but because Mariah's career has been very hit and miss for at least the past 7 years. What I find hilarious is that when the NYE debacle happened, almost all of the people who fled the board because it was too "negative" reappeared. Why? Because, negative or positive, this board represents stability for people. It's been around for decades for a reason no matter how often people shit on it, because Eric allows us to be human and express both negative and positive emotions on here. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 19:39)

Re: Record label wants to put out new single (71,139) (71,164) by Cgee54 from Usa Did she actually recorded with The Weeknd? I thought she said she wanted to collobarate with him but nothing happened. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 19:17)

Re: Lady Gaga Superbowl Mariah Carey (71,155) (71,163) by Chicago Lamb from USA A surprise vocal moment from Mariah at the half time show would be epic [caps]. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:28)

Re: Walk of Fame (71,146) (71,162) by MusicfanJ from Germany Isn't it strange? I wonder who did that and why? (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:20)

Re: Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,156) (71,161) by MusicfanJ from Germany Close My Eyes. I love this song so much (from the first time I heard in 97). This song has everything, it's pure and the lyrics are one of her best. It's so magical, I always can calm down and start the imaginary journey. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:18)

Re: Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,153) (71,160) by B from USA I love both but if I had to pick I'd pick Close My Eyes. It's a lyrical masterpiece. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:18)

Re: Mariah Carey enjoys huge streaming spike (71,149) (71,159) by Terna from Nigeria Wow, that could be the only good thing to come out of the whole debacle. Trust and believe she made a tsunami of new fans already. Lol. Once again, Mariah stays winning. When will they ever learn? It truly is Mariah's world. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:14)

Re: Why [...] mad? (71,150) (71,158) by Terna from Nigeria Your suggestion would mean letting the negativity thrive on the message board of a website dedicated to only (all caps) Mariah Carey. This isn't Ukmix nor a general forum for just anyone to come spew rubbish. This is a Mariah message board and as such there should be a certain level of respect towards her even when offering your "opinions" seeing that you're here because you identify (one would want to believe) as a fan of hers, because let's face it we're all on the outside looking in on her life and career. It's all speculation. So there's a problem when certain folk come on here with their "constructive criticism" which is borderline insultive, degrading and just straight up hating (no one is fooled when you see a blatant hate message you know) , all the while tagged as a "strong opinion". Smh. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 18:04)

Here we go again (71,157) by Lila from United States Lord have mercy on our souls already, please. What have we done to constantly have to deal with Stella's big mouth? She's done an interview with In Touch Weekly sounding a hot ass mess, once again "defending" herself against Tommy's words, once again trying to make him out to be some relic, and claiming that since she's managed Mariah, Mariah has experienced nothing but unbridled success. Not only is she an idiot, she's blind. Hit dogs holler but this idiot needs to be muzzled already. Everyone has already moved on from NYE and those that aren't are at least trying so hard but Mariah and Stella are the ones that won't let it die. All this extra and unnecessary foolishness with the interviews and voicemail and Anthony being "fired" is just annoying. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 17:21)

Re: Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,151) (71,156) by darrian liu from taiwan I love both songs but Close My Eyes has always been like a sanctuary. It's so peaceful and always succeeds to take off the stress I have. Close My Eyes all the way. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 16:10)

Lady Gaga Superbowl Mariah Carey (71,155) by T from USA I just had a thought, if there's any other singer out there who has shown so much respect (going to her shows, tweeting her and complimenting her so many times) it's Lady Gaga. Wouldn't it be wild if Lady Gaga feels just as bad for Mariah as we all do and offers her thirty seconds of her twelve minute set at the halftime show to prove to the world that she still has it. There's a rumor that Beyonce might do Telephone with her. Wouldn't it be the best if Mariah appears from a trap door through the stage and nails Emotions? (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 15:43)

Article: Mariah facing huge legal battle after cancelling tour (71,154) by CzechLamb from Czech Republic Now Billboard reports that Mariah sues them. What a load of rubbish is this Daily Star. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 15:15)

Re: Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,151) (71,153) by Bill from the UK Close My Eyes. The imagery in the lyrics is beautiful. It's haunting, soft, hopeful, poignant. Great underrated gem from the back catalogue and what made Butterfly one of her best albums. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 14:37)

Post-NYE (71,152) by Musti from UK Reading all the articles since the NYE performance, I am a little concerned for the future but most of all I hope Mariah is doing well. The message about her taking a break broke my heart. I hope she's not pulling a Janet on us. She needs a break of course and if she uses this time away to refocus it could really benefit her. I find her reference to "I will explain everything later" a bit unsettling. It sounds like she was truly set up to fail, hoping to generate a Rockefeller moment for the network. She has come a long way from being untouchable to media companies trying to use her weaknesses against her. Perhaps if she focuses on her weaknesses i.e. giving "live" performances and drops divadom, she won't be targeted like this to create viral moments. I hope she finds the strength to come back from all this. Perfect time for her to rise like a phoenix once again. Nikki I agree with what you said about family. I also hope she realises she actually has a family now and that she doesn't need bloodsuckers like Stella in her life. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 12:57)

Camouflage or Close My Eyes (71,151) by Sheila from United States Camouflage and those vocals for me: Didn't we swear we'd give each other everything? (Didn't we swear passionate heart and our love?) Didn't I give you all of me? No night or day goes by When I don't wonder inside (You still feel the way) If you feel the way you used to feel I camouflage my tears And you wear your disguise And 'round and 'round I go (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 12:38)

Re: Why [...] mad? (71,143) (71,150) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines If there's anything I have learned on this board, it's how much you'll learn to appreciate scrolling. I used to be like you - complaining about every comment which I felt was derogatory to Mariah in the least bit, defending her all the time, and staying positive like I was born with rose-colored contact lenses. The thing is that all the whining won't make sense or amount to anything anyway because everyone knows you have the option to just scroll through to skip what you don't want to read. Don't stress yourself. Have you seen other fan boards? How different are they from what you see here, really? I consider this board as a random sample population of all types of Mariah fans. I don't look at it based its general tone at a given time, but rather an eclectic mix of personalities where some criticize more than others, but I can assure you that every single one of the regular posters, even the most notoriously critical ones, do say something good every once in a while. To me that's enough. And despite Languishing being dedicated to fans, she knows that she (or anyone who actively pursues a career in showbiz for that matter) basically put herself out there for public scrutiny when she decided to take the path she has been on for the past 27 years. This board does need more optimistic fans like you to maintain a healthy balance, but if the perceived negativity and disrespect hits you this hard, then you're right, you do need a break. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 10:59)

Mariah Carey enjoys huge streaming spike (71,149) by 123 from USA So it looks like there has been new found interest in the three songs since her performance. Like one poster in the comments section said, she always wins even when she loses. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 8:32)

Re: Eye roll (71,125) (71,148) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines So true. I totally agree, and I'm someone who used to be one of those which you might deem "irritating eternal optimists". But like someone posted here before - if even fans as "blindly devoted" as I was back then are starting to get more critical, that's how you know something's terribly wrong. Criticism is good as long as it is not overdone and comes from a genuine place of concern. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 8:18)

LA Reid and J.Lo (71,147) by Nikki from usa I went to LA Reid's social media to see if I could find any hints about MC's song. I found pics of him with J.Lo and Medina called "epicfam". He supported J.Lo's last song and a couple pics of Mariah in a collage to support his book. I was reading about what he was saying in 2014 about her not ever having a #1 again and focusing on how long she's been out and radio isn't interested in artists like her now. He also helped J.Lo "come back" with On The Floor which is a rip off of Party O' Clock. I know at the time a lot of folks thought he was just trying to take the pressure off Mariah, but I think he's being honest. I was also surprised that the real reason Mariah wanted to go back with him was also that "family" feeling she keeps talking about. It's kind of ironic in a sad way how much her family has used her, so she keeps trying to invent other families out of work who just wind up being just as leech-y. I thought LA was bad news before he signed her no money deal, which is a good indication of how much he thinks she's worth as an artist. I do hope Mariah finds what she's looking for. I just think she'd find it faster if she started with qualified professionals who have basic respect for her as an artist. Things change when you start feeling valued. I wish she'd open her own label. She could cut tracks and upload them straight to iTunes. Ok, I am just trying to get more music from her with that last one. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 8:13)

Walk of Fame (71,146) by Sarah from Netherlands So somebody placed a question mark behind Mariah's name on the Walk of Fame. It's been restored, but still. Maybe it'll enlighten her team on her public perception right now. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 7:44)

L.A. Reid - let me guess (71,145) by Nikki from usa The song he wants to put out is a duet with MC and Lionel Richie. It's the only thing that makes sense with them about to tour in a couple of months. If L.A. were to release a new track in 3 weeks it would be the beginning of February when Mariah will be in Dubai for their Jazz Festival before she goes on tour with Lionel. That makes no sense when she has no time to promote it unless that's what the tour is for. I really hope this isn't his next move. Reid may have approved the release of Infinity, but he also said Mariah was lucky to be on the radio. The plans he talked about for her such as a duets album is something for someone much older or nearing the end of their career. It doesn't look like Reid has any faith in her and just wants to put her out to pasture. The real trick here is that Stella thinks Mariah's audience is 12 year-olds, which makes how she's presenting her even weirder, and L.A. is trying to group her up with the ages of Bette Middler. Will the real Mariah Carey please stand up? (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 7:04)

What if the new single is something special (71,144) by Bobby A from United States I have this feeling that LA Reid called Mariah into his office and said you really need to get a new song out in February. And you need to collaborate with Jazmine Sullivan and Darryl "DJ" Camper. It would be the first time Mariah and Jazmine Sullivan have collaborated. It would be a fresh sound. It would be nice to hear Mariah sing the way Jazmine Sullivan sings her melodies and hooks. Ooh, I am praying for something special like a Jazmine Sullivan collaboration. Radio has played Mary J. Blige's Thick Of It so much that is still #1 on the Urban Adult Contemporary chart. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 6:08)

Why [...] mad? (71,143) by AlwaysLoveForMariah from Usa Clearly I'm a lot like MiMi, I also need some breaks from this place, [...] it's so negative. Like I said there is a line between disrespect and constructive criticism. And 95% of the posts here are so disrespectful. Even Mimi has noticed the [censored] lambs by saying in a few interviews (the true lambilys). What [...] guys don't understand is Mariah was not put on earth to be criticized for her every move. And why would [...] even waste time [...] a person [...] constantly [...] on. Mariah is doing so great on all of her ventures, I know the music will be great, [...] she has never disappointed me musically. I see so many fans craving for new music yet you don't even support (buy) when she actually does drops something. I truly hope Mariah continues with her much deserved break, I know I will be patiently waiting. And even though I don't love Stella, I hope she keeps her, [...] it sure looks like a lot of you are mad for it. Currently playing Bye Bye. (Wednesday 11 January 2017; 5:04)

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