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The Bryan relationship is fake (71,379) by Sheila from United States Why even debate, you know fully well Bryan has more energy with Anthony than Mimi? Why do we even entertain a bogus relationship darlings? Argh stop the crap. Mariah likes girth and strong men. Bryan is a cornball. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 11:42)

Re: (71,375) (71,378) by Marissa from USA My main issue is a lack of effort and the trying to have your cake and eat it too mentality. If Mariah's voice is irreparably damaged then I can accept that, but what I can't accept is taking on gigs constantly and not preparing or even trying. From all of the reviews people leave here of MW she's seen with a glass in hand every episode, which we all know impairs the voice. I don't expect perfection, I just want to see effort and if she's over the days of painstakingly preparing for performances then she has that right, but just admit that you're over it and stop coming out and doing bad/half-assed performances just for money. It's better to retire than to keep doing things that are ruining your reputation. If she wants to keep performing forever then she should at least make sure she sounds good or just stop. Also, there's no such thing as Mariah giving a private performance for only wedding guests. People have cameras and moments like these easily go viral. I may come across as harsh because when I watch Mariah's performances, I don't give her "I'm a fan so I'm gonna let it slide" bonus points by default. I listen to the performance as if I have no allegiance to her because to me that is the only way you can determine whether a performance is actually good or not. It's like people who would go on American Idol convinced that they can sing because their mom always told them they sounded great, and then they get ripped to shreds by the panel. She's your mom, of course she's going to make you think that you're the best thing since sliced bread, but if you want to know the truth, you have to ask the real world because everyone isn't going to give you the benefit of the doubt as much as someone close to you is. It's the same thing with fans. These comments aren't about getting pleasure out of kicking Mariah while she's down, they are cries for help for her to give a shit about her career again. Trust me, I'd much rather be here bragging about how she slayed an Oscar or Grammy performance, but I don't feel like we're being given anything to brag about. I'm not going to force myself to adapt to f***ery when I know a person is capable of infinitely better. If I went from being in the gym daily to gaining 200 pounds, I would hope that someone who claimed to love me would pull me to the side and put me in check if they know I'm capable of much better, not just shut up and let me die of a heart attack for the sake of being "nice" and "positive". The most positive results I've ever gotten in life have been a result of negative (caps) feedback. The key is not internalizing it and seeing that people are criticizing a specific, fixable behavior and not you as a person. Reminds me of what I call the "spinach debate". Are you the type who'd rather walk around all day having a huge piece of spinach in your teeth and embarrassing yourself than to have one friend discretely tell you that you have something in your teeth? Would you be so mad that someone had the "audacity" to confront you about something that you miss the point that they are trying to save you humiliation from others who will be ruthless with you? That is the vibe that a lot of "positive" fans give me. "I'd rather look a fool to the world than have a few people call me out even if they're trying to save me from a future disaster." (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 11:37)

Re: Article: Rare gem: Mariah Carey - When I Feel It (71,359) (71,377) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Part of the appeal of this song to me other than the genius production is that the vocals in it sound the most raw among all the songs I've heard recorded for TEOM. Sure, the lack of studio polish might just be a result of it being pulled out of the final tracklist, but isn't this how Mariah should sound on her final recordings? The studio magic has progressively been turned up to overkill with each album in an attempt to mask her weaknesses, but this pursuit of perfection is a double-edged sword. Casual listeners would definitely appreciate it, but to us fans, listening to these overproduced pieces is like tasting artificially flavored drinks - we kinda like them, but there will always be this suspicious fake aftertaste. We just know she won't be able to pull off this flawless execution and vocal acrobatics live. And in a post-NYE 2016 performance world, it's not just us fans who know this anymore. Mariah feels the pressure to live up to the high standards she set for herself because it's what people know her for, but other singers such as Whitney Houston ('98-'09) and Lisa Stansfield ('99 onwards) have made albums that perfectly fit their current vocal abilities and they did fine. Will Mariah ever get the memo? (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 10:51)

Re: (71,374) (71,376) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I would express the same sentiments as well, but ultimately choose not to as we know that outside of this board, it's the women who are judged in the same way, even worse. It's unfair to Tanaka and Cannon, but hey they're the easiest punching bags in a Mariah-centric board. The mere thought of it is just mean and twisted - viewing what's happening here as the universe's way of somehow balancing out the severity of (the opposite) that happens outside. It's not right, but that's just how it is. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 10:07)

Re: (71,335) (71,375) by Dennis from The Netherlands I'm just saying, maybe this isn't for you. She doesn't go singing at a wedding to please you. You probably weren't invited. If you see videos of her singing there, maybe it's just posted for people who wish her well. Or people who wish the married couple well. If this was my wedding and my grandfather spend this kind of money on my wedding and I had a good time - Mariah Carey is playing at my wedding, ofcourse I'm having a good time - and random anonymous people would comment on my wedding, my feelings would be hurt for sure. How are you all in real life? Would you do this to your friends? There is a difference between being real and kicking someone who is already down on a daily basis, in my opinion. I really loved seeing the videos and thought she looked good, sounded good and and it was great to hear the harmonies of the backing singers. Wish I could have been there. Maybe because of your posts I got a wrong impression of you all, but if I were a track runner for example and you were my family I'd cut you out of my life if I could. I couldn't stand a mean mom there yelling all the time that I suck. Especially if I achieved more in life than them. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 9:36)

(71,374) by Andrew from UK Why is it that, on this board, men must conform to the stereotype of a "real man", i.e., Cannon and Tanaka are quite frequently put down for having less money than Mariah, for not being the dominant ones in the relationship, for not setting good examples of manly behaviour, for being "thirsty" and shallow? Equality, indeed. They're both clearly [censored]. But they're not [censored] because they're men. They're [censored] because they're [censored]. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 9:16)

Elle recap (71,373) by RibbonB from USA Mimi L. here is that Elle recap. Very funny and actually quite similar to yours this week. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 8:37)

Lila (71,372) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) You're new here and yes you are free to discuss any topic of your choosing as am I. But the ass part of your comment was unnecessary as my comment used no such language. You don't know me as I don't know you, please do not come at me in any disrespectful way. On another note no need to get upset it's only an opinion young lady whatever MC does with her life does not benefit neither one of us remember that. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 5:05)

Re: MW: This is not an exaggeration (71,365) (71,371) by Mara from United States Quick question about the scene in Paris when it was the vodka launch party and Stella's BD and also around the day Prince passed away. Thy showed James there at the dinner and MC has that black dress on. Isn't that the same time these cell phone videos were leaked online of MC, Tanaka and Anthony all dancing up on each other looking very close? I remember seeing these leaked cell phone videos and MC even is caught saying you are not getting my body or something like that. If so, James was there. So what does James leave his fiancé in Paris when he comes all the way out to see her and leave she early or who knows since MC stays awake until 5am anyhow (apparently Mishka does too according to MW) but James leaves his fiancé, she stays back and continues to party with the dancers. This all is so unreal. I really wish she would resolve whatever hurt she is obviously going through from the divorce and get away from the entire circus. Problem is and she said it herself, she has no real family and considers this life, her family. I honestly don't know where this situation will end up right now. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 4:52)

Re: Drama-naka (71,368) (71,370) by Licia from USA She does not want an equal partner, she wants a lap dog. Banaka Tanaka is perfect for the job. That's why he's there. Nick at least tried to become her equal. Banaka likes being her fake boy toy. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 2:06)

Re: Parenting (71,361) (71,369) by Lila from United States We're free to discuss whatever we want here as long as we're not being insulting. The webmaster puts our posts through so obviously there's no problem with us speaking on the topic. If you have a problem with that, then that's your problem. Stop trying to tell grown ass people what they should do or discuss. It's obvious you know nothing about how instability can negatively affect a child, that ACS or any other version of childrens services is not an automatic solution, nor did you properly read the posts. Bouncing men and women in and out of a child's life can negatively affect their perception of a healthy relationship. No these people may not pose a physical danger to the child but psychologically it can be harmful and these are usually not things that can be prevented in courts of law unless the person poses a physical danger. Calling up ACS, or any other version of children's services, is not an automatic solution because you still have to actually be able to prove that endangerment is occurring and that's not always cut and dry. Lastly, predators don't put signs on their backs announcing that they're predators. When a person is not careful he or she can possibly invite the wolves in sheep's clothing into their life and subsequently their children's lives. Situations like these are not so simple as you seem to want them to be. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 1:40)

Drama-naka (71,368) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter First of all, I still don't buy it's a real relationship and I'm waiting to see exactly when this drama stops. Like do they have a plan that they'll carry on this "stunt", that no one is buying, until so and so date and then move on? Anyways on the flip side, let's assume it's real, what exactly does Mariah think will happen? They got into a "relationship" while this guy was dating another girl and then he quickly dumped her and started "dating" MC (all throughout the series he says he is single), and then after MC's NYE disaster his ex-girlfriend posted something on social media about "karma". So does Mariah think he'll be loyal to her? Also Mariah knows how it didn't work out for her to date someone who is younger and less financially successful than her. Nick talked about how her entourage would put it in her mind that he's using her for money and all and he's cheating. This young is not only younger than Nick, he doesn't even have a steady job. In fact now it seems like he has given up everything and just is a permanent member of Mariah's entourage following her around. So what signal does that give? Would she really want Roc to grow up thinking Tanaka's lifestyle is the way to go? I don't get how she'd think if didn't work with Nick, who at least had a lot of business and worked hard to get his money, then how will it work with this basically paid employee. They're not equals in a relationship. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 1:19)

Re: Article: Russian billionaire spends £2.5million hiring Mariah Carey (71,360) (71,367) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ya the wedding singing is very common even among A list celebrities, they get a lot of money from it. I don't think Mariah takes it up as a big step down. In fact this is better than the reality show and all the random stuff she did (Match.com, GOW, vodka) because here she is actually using her talent, that is singing and not doing random crap. Don't get me wrong I don't classify the perfumes and MAC collaborations as "random" in fact I love it and it goes with her brand of "glam and beauty" but "Match.com" and "GOW" (which was abandoned) and all the random crap Stella got her into was a mess. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 1:13)

Re: Fans or buy the music? (71,362) (71,366) by Lila from United States I think, for a while now, it's about having an army of zombie minions willing to buy her products and kiss her ass despite her questionable actions, lackluster performances, and now her horrible manager. Mariah doesn't want criticism or anyone questioning her and that extends to us. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 0:07)

Re: MW: This is not an exaggeration (71,351) (71,365) by Lila from United States I agree he was smitten but I think he was smitten by celebrity public persona Mariah, not the real her and I think Mariah liked that James was complimentary and offered a lot of material wealth but wasn't into the real him. Personally, I didn't see anything adult about Mariah and James' relationship. It came across as one part attention seeking, one part business merger, and one part clueless guy chasing after a woman that the blind can see is not into him. (Tuesday 17 January 2017; 0:02)

Re: Article: Russian billionaire spends £2.5million hiring Mariah Carey (71,360) (71,364) by RibbonB from USA I agree and she has also performed at private events for years now, it is nothing new. (Monday 16 January 2017; 23:41)

Re: Parenting (71,361) (71,363) by RibbonB from USA If she puts it on MW, then she must want opinions on it, just like everyone comments on her drinking, vocals, dressing habits etc etc. She could just as easily have kept them off of the show and out of the limelight. Mariah also doesn't seem to care about her voice lately, but that doesn't stop anyone from critiquing it ad nauseum. (Monday 16 January 2017; 23:40)

Fans or buy the music? (71,362) by Danny from Uk It makes me wonder these days if Mariah wants real fans as she keeps saying aka Lambs or people that will buy her music and other endeavours eg MAC etc. What I really mean is it just about keeping the fame and making the money or progressing her legacy? Because once I felt like we were a part of her musical journey now I'm not so sure. She could be so much more in many ways and keep all of what she holds dear or what will remain is a shadow of her former glory not just voice but who is she as a person. Something is different this time, at least during Glitter she was young and wanted to carry on and she wrote songs that made me believe her. (Monday 16 January 2017; 23:26)

Parenting (71,361) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Excuse me ethics committee of MCA, who are you tell to someone how they should raise their children? If anyone who needs to say something it is Nick Cannon if he sees anything wrong with this. Last I checked I do not see ACS banging on MC or NC door so how they parent their children is their right. As long as they are not being put in any danger or being abused in any kind of way. If MC was such this horrible mother why hasn't Nick or anyone in his family fought MC for custody? Obviously he has no issues with how his children are being raised when they are with their mother. Until that happens how about the MCA family court ethics committee worry about your homes and priorities, and let MC worry about hers. (Monday 16 January 2017; 22:57)

Re: Article: Russian billionaire spends £2.5million hiring Mariah Carey (71,353) (71,360) by B from USA Beyonce has sang at weddings before. It's a lucrative gig. Sir Elton John also preformed at the ceremony. (Monday 16 January 2017; 22:47)

Article: Rare gem: Mariah Carey - When I Feel It (71,359) by regoat from Poland This song is amazing, such a style she should to record. (Monday 16 January 2017; 22:45)

Re: Bryan holding Monroe (71,348) (71,358) by RibbonB from USA I totally agree Lila. And before the "if M. likes it, I like it too" brigade chimes in, I will just add that I am not a muppet waiting for Mariah or Stella to tell me what to say or how to perceive something that they so willingly share with the public. Instead of being a confident wealthy mother of twins, Mariah acts like a desperate 16 year old single mom who thinks any attention paid to her is good attention and who thinks a man paying attention to her children is a good thing. These kids need boundaries and protection from the revolving door of characters who may come into their lives. It also doesn't help that Mariah drinks a lot and her paid escort/backup dancer enables her with splashes/shots and non stop partying. If M. is not in control, a hired escort is not the best nanny for young kids. Again, if Mariah fires nannies because they bond too closely with her kids, she should really be concerned about her dates getting too attached to her children too. She should also question their motives, but if she is numb or stoned more often than not, then she wouldn't even notice. This may be scripted or whatever, but Mariah is participating in a very bad scene in her own life right now and her children are real with real emotions and real vulnerabilities. (Monday 16 January 2017; 21:44)

Re: Vodka (71,345) (71,357) by Mike from FL, USA Guessing she drank all the stock. Jk, but lol the alcohol in MW can't be good for voice. It's literally every scene: MC with glass in hand. (Monday 16 January 2017; 18:39)

Re: MW episode 6 : Mimi L review (71,347) (71,356) by B from USA I didn't watch last night's episodes and I probably won't watch anymore episodes. I wanted a documentary of her world tour with performances, not a badly scripted reality show which unfortunately is what we got. I'm glad Mariah has decided to take a break from social media because it means we get a break from a thirteen year old posting thotty pictures of Mariah without her permission. Mariah take back control of your career, life, and social media accounts. Stella may have made you more money than your old team but it's cost your reputation. You went from an untouchable diva to a punching bag. Stella's management is the equivalent of Glitter 2. Surely, Mariah Carey, who worked so hard to rebound after that debacle can see that Stella's dictatorship has caused similar results. (Monday 16 January 2017; 18:25)

Re: The missing chanteuse (food for thought) (71,341) (71,354) by B from USA I thought it was revealed that she'd been recording new material since last May? Surely, she has enough material for a surprise release and it's obvious LA and Epic have heard the material if they want to release a single as soon as possible. If LA think she has a song that strong enough to remind the public that she's a talented singer songwriter why not release it? (Monday 16 January 2017; 18:18)

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