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Chaka's current voice is (65,890) (65,905) by Ty from USA Unstable at best. I took my mom to see her and she was not hitting notes. (Monday 5 September 2016; 17:34)

Re: Beacon Theatre 2016 (65,897) (65,904) by Ty from USA Let's hope she revamps the show and adds "I miss you most". (Monday 5 September 2016; 17:33)

Randy's rants (65,903) by Ty from USA Dude I'm confused why everything you post is negative. We understand you relate to her struggles due to your sexuality issues, but must you beat a dead horse?? You whine and whine and it's almost like you need meds. Butterfly on SNL was beautiful and the pain is in her face, Looking In was fully live, the Power Of My All in Vegas. I used to be negative and blah like you but I looked for happiness and found it. Stop abusing this board for a beating post. It's almost sickening bro, you're getting to the level of the angry [...] who I don't know. (Monday 5 September 2016; 17:32)

Re: Chaka Khan (65,839) (65,902) by B from USA The difference is Mariah is a songwriter and when she's releasing hits we and the public let her slide when it comes to her performances. However, no-one can deny that her voice is continuing to improve with each performance. She's always shaky on the first few nights but by the end of the leg she slays. (Monday 5 September 2016; 16:55)

Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,856) (65,901) by B from USA She supposedly wants Mariah's help but disrespects her by using her lyrics in a ad offering her services. (Monday 5 September 2016; 16:50)

Re: Comeback possibilities (65,871) (65,900) by B from USA #Beautiful and MIAMTEC were critical successes after MOAIA and Triumphant underwhelmed. (Monday 5 September 2016; 16:47)

Re: It's Like That Vegas (65,891) (65,899) by B from USA Thanks for sharing. (Monday 5 September 2016; 16:39)

A disertation on being negative (65,898) by Randy from USA Marissa, as one who has been called negative on this board, let me tell you about the disgust some of us have been feeling and why we choose to stay. Firstly, when I view how wonderful MC sounded in Tokyo in 1996, I think that's one of the best singers in the world. And then at her very next public appearance Oprah 97 she sounded awful and that was the beginning of the lip syncing. I could've forgiven her for one bad performance but she struggled through all of the Butterfly performances and by 1998 she was a hoarse cracking mess. Many want to claim there has been a gradual loss of the voice but in actuality it seemed to happen over night. And I'm not mad something happened to her voice, she's human. I'm mad that the woman who claimed to be so close to her fans couldn't tell us and never addressed what happened. She chose instead to create studio magic and then lip high full voice belts through all of the Rainbow, Charmbracelet performances both televised as well as the tours. She started "singing" again in 2005. Sort of. I think LA Reid had a sit down with her and made her do the work involved in repairing what was left since whatever happened. But I will not entertain she sang that entire 2006 Grammy performance. That was such a cut and paste job. Her engineer is a pro. Again this is not about her voice being lost, this is about deception. People wanted to attack Whitney for sounding awful in her last years but I have much more respect for a soldier, than a magician. Why stay? Because we know what this woman is capable of. There are things MC can do that no one can do. Put 3 and 4 syllable words in a Pop song and have it be a number 1: My All, Heartbreaker. Mix genres: The Butterfly, MIAMTEC albums. Combine love songs with introspective songs on an album: Looking In is on the same album with Fantasy. That's why it kills me when she allows people to limit her to an R&B singer. R&B albums are all about love and heartbreak. MC writes about other things. Sort of like a Joni Mitchell mixed with Chaka Khan. And on a personal note. I have had some struggles in my life with my sexuality and my family and songs like Close My Eyes, Outside have helped me through. While songs like Through The Rain, Obsessed, Languishing and Right To Dream are pure genius lyrically. So why stay? I would never abandon MC, she has been by my side metaphorically since I was 10. I am now 36. I know what she is capable of and I have a right to dream that this deception, laziness, aloofness and indifference when it comes to singing live, making music, promotion, social media and her fans is just a phase and she will return to what she was or at least strip it all down and be herself one day. I love this board and in particular the webmaster for allowing all points of view. (Monday 5 September 2016; 15:48)

Beacon Theatre 2016 (65,897) by Mike from FL, USA Does anyone know if MC will be doing her Christmas concert at Beacon Theatre this year? If I recall, weren't the official announcments for both 2014 and 2015 made late in each respective year? (Monday 5 September 2016; 4:13)

Re: The Truth (65,887) (65,896) by Marissa from USA How do you even have the patience to continue to watch her career closely if you've been dissatisfied for the past 15 years though? And what is the point because if she's hasn't implemented whatever changes you've wanted in that lengthy span of time, what is the payoff of continuing to emotionally invest in her? Do you have a breaking point regarding when following her career wouldn't even feel worth the effort? (Monday 5 September 2016; 3:30)

Beyonce (65,895) by B from USA Mariah wished Beyonce a Happy Birthday. Dispelling the myth that she's jealous of other female singers. (Monday 5 September 2016; 1:34)

Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,888) (65,894) by Andrew from UK "My statement about those who have contracted HIV by accident was to illustrate that not everybody got it just because they knowingly put themselves in risky situations." It'a as clear as day. You are making a distinction between these two groups whereas they are people who below to one group: HIV positive. How somebody came to contract it should be of total irrelevance. To say that it is not is to suggest one group more worthy of compassion or assistance than the other. There is no other reason for the distinction. In short, it shouldn't matter how somebody got something, what matters is they need help, just as the junkie who free-willingly stuck the first needle in his arm needs, and deserves, assistance. If Alison has access to treatment then that is great. Every man, woman and child in the UK is given treatment, if they need it, for free for the rest of their lives without question - without ever being questioned how they contracted HIV. The judgement would be, and is, already made in asking the question, in making the distinction. The judgement is made by slapping it on news articles where it is of little relevance. And Martyn is perfectly correct: what this all actually does is make it less likely that people will go and get tested for fear of being labelled in a negative way as somebody less deserving of compassion and understanding - of being fair game - because they were to blame and they should have known better. The stigma around HIV is very apparent in news articles concerning Alison and in views expressed here. Let's move on. (Monday 5 September 2016; 1:00)

August 28th Vegas moments (65,893) by 123 from USA Yay to continued improved vocals and more stripping back some pre-records on another song. Here is Mariah singing the first verse of Fantasy live again and she sounds good. How long has it been since she sung that part live? This is my favorite TGIFY performance on this leg. She even did a little scatting. Her belts sound so full and rich. And of course she did another great performance of My All on the 28th. She has a lot of great moments from the 28th. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 22:50)

Re: M.'s nephew tweets (65,892) by Special K from USA Morgan Carey is dead wrong on so many levels for going to the press bad mouthing Mariah. If this was really truly about helping Alison, then Morgan would be the big brother that he is, step up to the plate and do whatever he has got to do to help his sister. Whatever it is Mariah is supposedly not doing shouldn't effect what he can do for Alison. Going to the press blasting Mariah isn't going to help Alison and his sorry ass knows that. Morgan's sole purpose for going to the press was to get paid and hurt Mariah. He really should be ashamed of himself. No grown self respecting man would do that to his baby sister. Obviously Mariah cut him off financially 6 years ago after they had their falling out. Morgan stated himself that Mariah has given Alison thousands of dollars throughout the years. Mariah's people reported that each time Alison went into rehab, Mariah paid the bill. Like Ribbon said, perhaps this time around Mariah has set conditions. All this talk about family helping family. Please. Family can be your own worst enemy. Throw your ass to the wolves and watch you get eaten up alive then at wanna fall out at your funeral. Please. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 21:34)

It's Like That Vegas (65,891) by 123 from USA I really like this performance. She finally ditched "Crapfinity" for a throwback. I hope she keeps replacing the song with others. I like how Mariah agrees with how her promo shot is supposed to look like here. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 20:15)

Metropole orchestra (65,890) by RibbonB from USA Happy Sunday, just sharing one of the best live recorded concerts I have ever seen. Wow, for Mariah to be able to perform her set list with this great group. Here is Chaka in 2011 slaying her hits. Sheila please listen to her "Through The Fire" and "Angel". Wow, this is in 40 years in, such a feat. Oleta Adams has a great version of "Get Here" online, also performed with this great orchestra. Such a beautiful way for amazing singers to showcase their voices. This orchestra is so tight with their arrangements, absolute professionals. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 17:18)

Re: Vegas 5th night (65,882) (65,889) by RibbonB from USA Too bad Mimi can't dance. Lol. She looked good though. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 16:27)

Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,888) by Edward from USA Andrew, I never suggested anybody should be marked, cursed or discriminated against for having HIV (all caps) however they got it. Had I thought that way, I wouldn't have brought Alison as a person not to judge by her HIV status. My statement about those who have contracted HIV by accident was to illustrate that not everybody got it just because they knowingly put themselves in risky situations. Remember that many ignorant people still think HIV is a thing that only happens to gay people. As for Alison and her HIV medications, believe me when I tell you this: In the US, especially in New York, anybody who doesn't have a job or has a reported annual income of $16,395 and below is eligible for free Medicaid, so she has access to her medications. I'm pretty sure most likely Alison wouldn't be alive if she weren't taking her medications. Morgan talks about creating a trust for her to cover her basic needs, but supporting Alison financially hasn't guaranteed her quitting her lifestyle. I'm pretty sure when she comes knocking because she really wants it, she'll find the support her needs. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 16:03)

Re: The Truth (65,874) (65,887) by THE TRUTH from USA How interesting that me speaking about Shawn's [censored] are censored but you get to refer to me as a dick. Anyway in answer to your question: I truly was a great fan of Mariah's prior to 2001. There is so much fantasy and [censored] being perpetrated now that I feel compelled to help keep things real. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:54)

Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,886) by RibbonB from USA If you are really interested in a Christian perspective on enabling (which I doubt), here is one. Peace. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:45)

Re: Mariah Carey's HIV+ sister (65,877) (65,885) by RibbonB from USA Most people get privacy and dignity for this subject, there are health privacy laws in effect in the US. It is not always brought up in relation to Magic Johnson, who moved past the salacious headlines, but best believe when he first revealed his status, there were a lot of shook groupies because of his reputation as a player and participant in orgies back in his NBA days. Should groupies be running and getting tested? Yes. Should athletes, rockers, rappers et al. be worried about their actions? Yes. But that doesn't stop people from participating in risky behavior. If M.J. had continued to participate in risky behavior, his status would be constantly posted about as well. A. came out last year making a video plea for help, but she won't stop the actions that put her and others at continued risk. Anyway, the Bible doesn't speak to enabling. M. has offered help and probably still does, but with conditions. A. probably just figures she can get a tabloid paycheck without checking her own risky behavior. Families who do not enable are doing the right thing, addicts often just do what they do best, push for what they want. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:28)

What if what's really happening was (65,884) by Edouard from France That Mariah's siblings simply are blackmailing her. Alison Carey probably only put an ad to create controversy (with no intention to follow through), knowing it would get Mariah's (and her team) attention. Morgan prepared the media to be ready to ask questions with his constant rants at Mariah. They realized they would make more by threatening Mariah to reveal "obscure family secrets" than by selling stories to the media. They clearly aren't that interested. Good thing that Mariah is actually friends with so many people and the TV (generally speaking) loves her. I'm talking about TV hosts, TV producers. She's friends with everybody, or friends with everybody's friends. She's smart. That is a horrible situation. I think Mariah had/has no choice but to get away and avoid them. They seem to be sick people. She saved her own life by creating her own. Sometimes you do have to choose your family. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:13)

Re: M.'s nephew tweets (65,873) (65,883) by RibbonB from USA Morgan is wrong for selling stories and being so fake to put Mariah on blast, then act like he is afraid to come to the States to help his sister A. himself. To orchestrate her making a video plea for help. A. has medical help, they just want to be treated as if they are rich, which they apparently are not. And Martyn A. is noted discussing her status in a 1995 interview, or at least publicly acknowledging it during that interview, claiming she went to prostitution because she couldn't get a job. No one deals with why she went to prostitution with a fairly wealthy father and with all the resources available to her from wealthy relatives, why she won't stop. She is mentally drawn to that profession and to drugs and financial help merely enables her. She just wants what she wants. There is help available to her if she will accept it, but she wants Mariah's attention, or to dim some of the light that shines on Mariah. IMO. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 15:10)

Re: Vegas 5th night (65,881) (65,882) by Licia from USA I'm just glad that her and JD are cool. I actually prefer this outfit to some of her more questionable stuff. Lol. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 13:38)

Vegas 5th night (65,881) by Malcolm from Asia So apparently, Mariah mixed up her setlist for the first time with the help of Jermaine. It's not really a great performance based on what I've seen but it's alright, it's refreshing so I love it. I'm not sure if I like the new outfit but I appreciate the effort they made to have something new. I wish she premieres new material on the last day of the leg. (Sunday 4 September 2016; 12:31)

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