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Re: Packer split / SA tour (67,527) (67,534) by Musti from UK Yes I felt like there might be a connection. Smells a bit like the time when YME or MIAM was released. But she openly blamed the promoters so maybe they really did mess things up. I wonder what happened. The silence is not helping though and it's definitely not a good look. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 12:15)

Re: Packer split / SA tour (67,527) (67,533) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I don't think it's related. First of all, we don't even know if it's true because every other week we get a "James dumped Mariah" headline. It makes for an easy story, everyone likes to believe that James (a reserved billionaire) would eventually tire of Mariah's over the top, diva, glamor ways. However we don't know how this woman is behind closed doors. Secondly, Mariah never seemed to be that into James ever, they were photographed together for maybe a total of 10 times and every time Stella was right there to make sure Mariah and James didn't have to speak more than 2 words to each other, hence if they did split, I don't think she would be "devastated". Third but most importantly, don't forget this woman went on an Asian and Australian tour right after her break up with Nick, when she really was devastated (because she seemed like she really did love him and she had babies with him and was married to him for years) and save for the first few shows, she did pretty well. So I don't think Mariah would cancel a tour because of her relationship with James especially if that didn't stop her when she was going through a difficult divorce in 2014. So I'm not concerned. Plus she is already doing other appearances instead of the tour. This is Mariah's season. She won't let anyone take away her shine during this time of the year, and she shouldn't either. This is the only time when the whole world acknowledges her greatness. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 12:13)

Cancellation of the SSFT tour (67,532) by darrian liu from taiwan I couldn't believe this. I mean, yeah, Team MC is so darn messy but I didn't expect it to be this bad. We need answers, Mariah's getting death threats online. Team MC must arrange for Mariah to do a tell-all interview regarding this issue and really set the record straight and publicise the interview as much as possible. That info about the promoter is still not enough. Moreover, this is nearly Mariah's season. I don't want this to hinder AIWFCIY's performance sales wise. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 12:06)

Re: Fan backlash (67,523) (67,528) (67,531) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I agree, this isn't her fault. There's a reason she keeps people on her payroll to handle her marketing/PR side. Mariah never claimed to be a business graduate that she can handle both her artistry and business together. Regardless, no matter how upset the fans are, no one has the right to call her filthy names and to wish death upon her. That's just too much. This thing should have been nipped in the bud the moment the tour got cancelled. All they needed to do was hold an iPhone in front of Mariah and let her just say whatever she felt like saying. No need to force a script on her. I'm sure she genuinely feels bad about it and she is good with words so just let her give a heartfelt video message. This would never have blown up so much if her team was more active, like Chris Chambers was last year when Morgan tried to sell his first explosive story and no one got wind of it, it died down in 5 minutes flat with only the original tabloid having that story. But Stella spends so much time on her contour and so little time actually bothering to choose people who are right for business that her team is a complete mess. It only has Bulochnikov insiders who don't have the experience. How can Stella play multiple roles as manager, tour manager, PR personnel, marketing personnel, bodyguard, accounts manager and so on? She ain't Eddie Murphy and this isn't the Nutty Professor. Stop being so scared of being fired and hence not letting professional outsiders enter. Get your act together instead of ruining and leeching off the very woman who is paying your bills and your family's bills. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 12:01)

Re: SA tour and the drama (67,530) by Sheila from United States The trolls are always looking for a reason to hate on Mariah. She didn't handle her business, this will blow over like all her drama. You can tell by her performance of Someday in Vegas the woman is burned out. She keeps going and going for the lambs who don't appreciate a 47 year old woman wanting to please the lambs but not retiring and raising her children. It's a tour, it's not like she promised to meet each fan personally, which we know the lunatic lamb in Vegas ruined that with his Barbie doll. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 11:44)

Ariana is no queen and Dangerous Woman flopped (67,529) by Sheila from United States Queens: Mariah, Whitney, Celine, Aretha, Gloria Estfan, Janet, Madonna, Selena. Ariana is a child. Have you bumped your head? [Webmaster: I don't think you can call Dangerous Woman a flop. The album debuted at number two on the US Billboard 200 and it became her first number one album in the UK. It also hit number-one in Australia, Brazil, Italy, Ireland, New Zealand, Spain and Taiwan, while also entering the top ten in almost every territory it charted in.] (Thursday 27 October 2016; 11:41)

Re: Fan backlash (67,523) (67,528) by Licia from USA I think it's unfair for the fans to automatically blame her. I'm quick to call out Mariah on bs and demand she be held accountable, but in the situation her team should be getting the backlash. With all those people that are around her I know there is somebody on the payroll to handle these type of situations. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 10:59)

Packer split / SA tour (67,527) by Martyn from England, UK Does anyone think these are linked? I predict a messy set of alcohol-fuelled Christmas appearances if all this is true. I hope she's okay. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 10:08)

Re: What female should Mariah duet with? (67,525) (67,526) by Martyn from England, UK Ariana is a queen and her Dangerous Woman album is perfection from beginning to end. Maybe you're just a bit too old for her Andrew tee hee. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 10:07)

Re: What female should Mariah duet with? (67,491) (67,525) by Andrew from UK There's nothing you'd love more? How about Mariah smacking Ariana in the jaw to stop that pretentious, pouty, posey, posey jaw wobble she does every time someone aims a camera at her? She's just so bloody awful. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 9:04)

Re: SA tour (67,519) (67,524) by Andrew from UK Nobody may have predicted the tour cancellation, as such, but - and, lets be honest - is anybody really that surprised? There's little shock in "Mariah Carey in another career balls-up shocker". What is a little shocking is her continued disregard and nonchalance toward her fans, who might have expected a slightly less disingenuous apology and more detailed explanation, as you rightly point out. "My darlings"? She could have at least written the tweets herself. Really sad for the South American fans because the SSFT is actually really good. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 8:50)

Fan backlash (67,523) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I read some of the comments on social media and they are going bat crap crazy on Mariah. From calling her really bad names to wishing death upon her. It's really getting out of hand. First of all, I feel really bad for the fans, they waited so long for this to happen only to be shattered by the news, but guys please this is no way to treat the person who has been your favorite for so long. Mariah is a lot of things but I do not believe this cancellation was her fault. Her team on the other hand, unprofessional and huge failures. Yes, she chose her team and we all know Mariah isn't the best at choosing whom to have a professional relationship with but please don't start abusing her and telling her to go and die. Mariah's season is almost here and to start it off with such bad news, her brand has been permanently tarnished and no one is making an effort to show her side of the story. Her team needs to understand shielding her from the reality will do more harm than good, unless of course they already know that and is only shielding her because they are benefiting from it. Mariah, please wake up, start communicating with the fans directly. Show them that it's not your fault and that you are doing everything you can to fix this. A tweet means nothings because we all know who is typing it. So make a little effort from the comfort of your home to communicate with your fans and tell them what happened and assure them that you will make up for it. Also please wake up and find a professional and established team who can really support you and not milk your career for their own benefits and then leave once they have take everything away. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 8:32)

Oh boy (67,522) by Shezz from Pk The theories, drama and mimi bashing will begin now. I hope the lambily will be supportive. She has her Christmas shows to pull off. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 6:26)

Re: SA tour (67,518) (67,521) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Nope they had 3 different promoters from what I've read. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 1:57)

Re: SA tour (67,519) (67,520) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter At least have Mariah make some sort of announcement, by either writing a personal letter (and posting it on social media) or a video where she addresses exactly what went wrong. Thing is at the end of the day it's Mariah's image at stake. The others can easily just jump ships, but Mariah's image wil have to face the blow. She needs to know who she is hiring. Her tour manager (if she even has a proper one and not a member of Bulochnikov family) should have been on this issue from the start. Ensuring everything goes smoothly. Her PR team should have been on overdrive making sure everyone knows this is not Mariah's fault. It's just so annoying. Mariah probably doesn't even know that she is being ripped apart in the media and on social media because her team will hide it. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 1:55)

Re: SA tour (67,516) (67,519) by Licia from USA I was thinking the same thing as far as the timing goes. You can't make me believe that this problem is all of a sudden came up two days before. Although offering refunds is honorable, fans who purchased tickets deserve answers. I agree that Stella and camp have spent so much time defending or fighting about dumb stuff in the blogs and on social media (the fight defending her kid is the only fight I don't judge her about), but when things like this happens she's all of a sudden mute. This is the moment where you need to open that big old mouth. (Thursday 27 October 2016; 0:42)

Re: SA tour (67,516) (67,518) by RibbonB from USA Maybe Mexico had different promoters. It is actually in North America. Perhaps we will never know all the business dealings. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 23:04)

Re: SA tour (67,514) (67,516) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter She is being torn apart as we speak. Her team as usual is mum and not actively fighting back to set the record straight. I don't understand how this issue arised just 2 days before the shows. Why didn't her manager get the transactions done before hand and how did this happen last minute? I feel really sorry for the fans who were super excited to see her. She did say she'll try to go there in 2017 so there's still hope. This time they should make sure they get the best promoters in the business. Also Mariah's team should really step up the promo game. I'm so over them just sitting on their behinds thinking her name is enough. I mean people at least need to be aware that Mariah is even coming to these places. Also I don't get why the entire leg was cancelled. I can understand how maybe the promoter of one of these places messed up, but how did all 3 countries mess up together? Yet they kept Mexico which apparently had the lowest ticket sales. I'm really curious to know what actually went wrong. So far it's very vague. Did the promoters just decide not to pay her? Did her team make last minute demands that they didn't want to put up with? I however don't think Mariah really just wanted to walk out of this for no big reason. Something big went wrong for her to cancel because she says she will perform even if 1 fan attends her shows. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 20:50)

Re: SA tour (67,513) (67,515) by Carlos from Brazil I'm beyond devastated about the cancelation of the tour. We heard the tickets were at about 90% sold according to MariahNow. It would be the my first time seeing this legend live so I hope she comes back really soon. We're waiting for the refund now. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 16:28)

Re: SA tour (67,513) (67,514) by Mara from United States Ok so apparently it was the promoters who broke the contract with Mariah. I hope they make that much more public so she doesn't get dragged in the media. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 16:25)

SA tour (67,513) by Mara from United States Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I remember reading the fans in Brazile saying how bad the ticket situation was and they were desperately trying to get Stella's attention throughout social media. The economic situation is very bad there now and apparently the tickets were bought by those ticket companies and they raked up all the ticket costs or something like that. The fans were having a hard time affording the ticket costs therefore they were not selling that well. Now I don't know in terms of numbers how many actually sold but do you think as she stated it was a promotional thing? Low ticket sales? It's all just so weird sounding. We know she planned on flying out early and that is why she had her Halloween party early. It just doesn't sound right, only three days away. I hope she makes it up to those fans who were looking forward to seeing her for so very long. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 15:29)

Butterfly - angel sound? (67,512) by Ben from Sweden Am I the only hardcore fan that may imply the sound of angel in Mariah's recordings of the Butterfly album? The last album before you think of vocal damage. Hehe I love Mariah. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 14:46)

Re: Whenever You Call - your most listened to song? (67,489) (67,511) by darrian liu from taiwan Mine's a tie between Underneath The Stars and Languishing. My second most played song is Ribbon. Amazing songs. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 12:09)

Re: What female should Mariah duet with? (67,495) (67,510) by darrian liu from taiwan Yes to this. I love Tori so much, she's my baby. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 12:04)

Re: Whenever You Call - your most listened to song? (67,489) (67,509) by Terna from Nigeria Mine was a tie between "Vision of Love" and "The Art of Letting Go" according to iTunes. I actually play those two the most come to think of it. Lol. (Wednesday 26 October 2016; 10:51)

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