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Re: Mariah's World (64,146) (64,160) by THE TRUTH from USA You forgot about Louise McNally who was with her since the Motolla days. How about the double digit list of ex managers too? Need I mention friends? Even her brother who launched her career lives in Italy and I haven't seen one picture of them together. For that matter, did she fire her mom or did she quit too? (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:32)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... Ribbon (64,159) by Anonymous from Thanks Ribbon for responding to my post in a mature way. It is a sensitive subject and I do appreciate different perspectives. In regards to assumptions clearly I've read it wrong. But whether Mariah said something I agreed with or not, again I would still challenge it if warranted. I rarely post but when I do it's because I strongly believe in it. Mariah has made her choice for a reason, right now I just don't get it. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:28)

Re: Mariah's World (64,154) (64,158) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I usually scoff at conspiracy theories but I have to say, the way Mariah's team is taking her, it sure looks like they are trying to tear down her legendary status and smear her legacy. The cheap stunts, the cursing, the weird "leaked" privates photos (that looks so staged), the stunt with the MC-Brian Tanaka affair (it was believable at first but then they started pushing it down everyone's throat by having them grind all over the place), getting a reality show, something Mariah has always scoffed at. Calling it a docu-series won't change much, it is what it is. If it was aired on HBO, I'd think otherwise, but it's being aired on E Network and produced by the same people that is involved with the Kardashians, plus the wanna be Kardashians (Bulochnikovs). Mariah showing up half naked to places without a reason seemingly high as a kite. The snap chat videos (which should have been private) of her completely out of it, grinding over men. Someone said before that Mariah always drank and partied but the thing is it was always private. What made Mariah so interesting and mysterious was that we never really knew much about what went on once she got off stage. Her private life was pretty private. We didn't even know about the problem in her married life with Nick until they announced that they have been separated for months. But nowadays Mariah is overexposed, her private life is out there for everyone to see whether they want to or not. It's almost like she is challenging people to make fun of her. She is definitely not in good hands. Her PR was still better (Morgan's story being nipped at the bud) when Chris Chambers was involved, ever since they left, Stella has been her manager, PR, stylist, life coach and everything. All we got from her was ratchet behavior. People hate on RaeRae and call her a leech, but really RaeRae had no control over Mariah's career (except for that awful choreography) but at least she knew Mariah well. Where is she? Why is everyone who knew Mariah out of the picture? I don't believe Michael Richardson was bad either. Where did he go? Mariah is stranded alone in Bulochnikov land and company does influence you. Just saying, I don't trust this family. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:28)

Re: Mariah is not a politician - Mirage (64,157) by Anonymous from Choose to ignore my post(s) that's your choice. Clearly I've touched a nerve. I'm ok with stating my opinions and hearing others. No sarcasm just being honest with my thoughts. (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:20)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,153) (64,156) by TJ from Norway Is that the same Mariah who wrote and sang "There's got to be a way"? (Monday 11 July 2016; 0:19)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,150) (64,155) by RibbonB from USA I wasn't implying you were not doing anything about it and I get that you are venting. But we all can really only control what we can do. Focusing on Mariah and her comments or non comments is just an extra step or a diversion if you will. But hey vent away. As I said I wasn't trying to criticize you, just offering a vigorous debate, because I feel people have a right to use or not use their platform. I'm a black woman and my black life matters, but I'm sure not gonna go sitting on a darn freeway blocking traffic to make a statement, but I'm proud of the one's who are so passionate to take such a risk. I just personally don't have any judgement for how people handle this kind of trauma to society. But you are assuming Mariah has anything constructive to say. what if she said something and you didn't agree? Even politicians have no real solutions. It's a big issue that we all need to work on. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 23:59)

Re: Mariah's World (64,146) (64,154) by RibbonB from USA Well the team just prior to the Stella team quit, they said because they did not want to participate in this drama. Eddie Morales' original IG rant basically spelled things out, that they did not want to be involved in some elaborate stunt that is designed to make Mariah look bad and take her in a direction that they did not feel comfortable with, or want to participate in. Now Mariah and Stellar claim they fired them, but I believe they quit as they claim. Eddie even congratulated Flaky Tanaka for his new "job" and that was before he even had the creative director title. Hopefully Nick is throwing a wrench in things by trying to keep the kids off the show, or perhaps it's just from lack of real interest from the general public. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 23:44)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,147) (64,153) by Mirage from Unicornatopia You're right, we all fell in love with Mariah due to her Maya Angelou meets JFK grasp of current affairs and political issues. My bad. I wish the Mariah of the 90s, who championed civil rights, and humanitarian causes would return. Who remembers that time Mariah stood up in London and protested against the war in Iraq, or the genecide in Kosovo. Oh, how I wish this Mariah would return. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 23:36)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,145) (64,152) by Mirage from Unicornatopia Jade, I did not read your post. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 23:28)

Mariah is not a politician (64,151) by Anonymous from I created a post a lot earlier and it's still not up yet so maybe there was a loss in connection or the webmaster hasn't authorised it yet. Anyway to cut the long story short you don't need to be a politician to voice an opinion. As I've said before, I don't expect Mariah to voice an opinion on every news issue but I am disappointed that she hasn't commented or acknowledged the issue, especially being half black herself. As long as I can remeber she has voiced numerous times how she's been treated, being bi racial, for having a black man as a farther. Mariah said she felt oppressed because she didn't feel like she could be herself. I think many of Mariah's fans related to that especially those that are bi-racial, that was certainly the case for me. Maybe because I connected with Mariah on that issue is the reason why I am so disappointed. For such a sensitive subject and from how Mariah has conducted herself in the past about race, I'm not gonna front, I feel hurt. What you say or anyone else for that matter still isn't going to change my opinion and that's that. Yeah social media from time to time doesn't have the right impact but then it again it has proven to have its uses too. Those videos of black men being murdered sent shockwaves to the world. If everyone had the mindset that it's not my responsibility or someone else's then change wouldn't happen. Again as I've said before I don't need Mariah to fight the battle, I'm capable of making my thoughts clear in a constructive way. I realise my expectations of Mariah needs to be lowered. Much people and thanks for sharing you views. I know that there are some people that share my views and many that doesn't. I'm ok with that. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 22:57)

Re: Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,126) (64,131) (64,150) by Marissa from USA But who said I wasn't doing my part though? You can't assume that I'm doing nothing just because I voiced my frustration about Mariah's deafening silence. I'm actually not pushing her to do anything because I know that unfortunately she listens to nothing that the fans think or say. I was simply venting. It's not that Mariah making a statement would ease anyone's frustration with the injustices happening. That's not the point. I believe that if you have any black heritage and an epidemic of negativity is happening to your people, you should use your platform for something constructive, not pretend that you don't see what's going on. Some might disagree with me. And I hold any other black or mixed celebrity to that same standard and am disappointed in anyone who fits that criteria who's been ignoring these situations, not just Mariah. I'm not going to let her off the hook because she doesn't look black (like I feel many people are subconsciously doing), especially because she has gone out of her way to associate with black people for a large chunk of her life, so clearly she identifies with us on some level. Trust me, the fact that to this day people still don't know what race Mariah is is really saving her from being dragged even more for her silence. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 20:07)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,143) (64,149) by May from Denmark Good words Mirage. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 20:05)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,143) (64,148) by B from USA Agreed. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 19:05)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,143) (64,147) by THE TRUTH from USA So yes I agree with you, Mariah should not be expected to get behind and support the oppressed, exploited, downtrodden, murdered etc. She should not be expected to take a stand and champion democracy, human rights, the environment or anything else. Sure, it would be nice if she actually stood for something more than the self gratifying, self adulating, look at me I'm so rich, fabulous, and sexy ethos that she pays to have smeared all over Daily Mail but that's just fantasy. Me, I'm okay with not expecting her to be anything more than what she is. The woman that made some incredible music throughout the 90s. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 18:55)

Mariah's World (64,146) by Butterfly from Her dancer said it's coming in the winter. However this is not a confirmation whatsoever if Mariah's World is still happening. Just wanted to let you all know it's for sure postponed until the winter. Why? 1) What Truth said about someone being difficult and Mariah's World is not going to air. So saying winter is a way to buy time to figure it all out. 2) They're waiting for the wedding so they can include it in her reality show. Also wanted to add. Antony Burrell (black dancer always with Bryan and Mariah on tour) was fired or left on his own right before the last Vegas leg. He was her creative director but got replaced by Bryan Tanaka. He confirmed it on his IG the MC chapter is done. He didn't say why or anything bad about Mariah. Anthony with Bryan was a huge part of Mariah's World so maybe he doesn't want to be on it anymore. All strange but it's fishy how many members are fired/leaving. I'm counting: 1) Michael Richardson 2) Gaylin 3) Michael Kane 4) Wilfredo 5) Anthony 6) Chris Chambers 7) Connie (Sunday 10 July 2016; 16:42)

Re: Mariah is not a politician (64,143) (64,145) by Anonymous from So you have to be a politician to voice concerns re the world and its troubles? If that was the case then the world wouldn't turn and there would be no change. If you read my initial post then you will see that it's a combination of things and not merely just commenting on world events. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 16:40)

Mariah Carey (64,144) by TRAVON AUSTIN from United States Can we all just sit back and appreciate why Mariah Carey is Mimi. She went through hell while being a legend at the same time. She would have been a legend even if she retired at age 30. We can say many things about her such as drinking alcohol or being an alcoholic. That she dresses horrible for her age. That she is not making the right career decisions that we would like as fans. After losing Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, and Prince in horrible circumstances related to drugs or medicine, I am pleased that Mariah Carey remains a legend in her own right. She doesn't do drugs. She isn't part of the sex music industry where women are taking advantage of every day. She stays in her own circle with people she trusts and takes this pressure like a pro. She deals with the issues on hand, in her own way, and on her own time. With the money that she has I could imagine how easy it would be to turn the other way but she hasn't. With all the scrutiny that she has to deal with everyday and all the people including fans, that tell her what she needs to do and when she needs to do it, I am proud that she has not faltered. Do you guys realize how easy it would be with the scrutiny she goes through to have a breakdown. Believe it or not I feel that being in her own circle has allowed her to manifest time within her own legend status. I would rather Mariah Carey makes mistakes as a real person and be scrutinized rather than do drugs and have many sex with many different industry people. Everything that she is going through is things that real people deal with such as insecurities, trying to have the best image to the people that we are around, and trying to figure out what's the right thing to say and when to say it. She is also being scrutinized for her questionable behaviors around her children but we all know that she loves her children. Mariah Carey is a fighter and she reminds me of the phoenix. She is in her own circle but she doesn't care what people think. It works to her disadvantage if she's making bad mistakes but when everything is great it works for her extremely well. I wish that someday she will be appreciated for being a phoenix. At the end of the day someone who is worth over a half a billion dollars will always be despised by regular working people in those who feel that they are better than them. I never felt and I still don't, that Mariah Carey felt better than her fans or that she hates people. Every person that you see in interviews, that speaks about her, says how humble and gracious she is. I feel that despite her insecurities and her issues, she really does try to do the right thing for the right people. So we all should cherish that we have a real human being going through real human things and this human being so happens to be a legend and a superstar. She is dealing with these issues instead of ignoring them. I feel that she will eventually come around and ever since American Idol, I feel that she has been doing the best that she possibly can to get her image to the right place. We should appreciate her hard work and the effort that she has put it in her live performances. Also we should appreciate the legend that is Mariah Carey. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 16:07)

Mariah is not a politician (64,143) by Mirage from Unicornatopia She should not be expected to make statements about mass murders or race relations in America. Sure, she could make a statement, or post something on Twitter, but does that mean she cares? People retweet and post things all the time, but what do they actually do to advance their causes? Nothing. Yes, Mariah could do a Beyonce, and champion a cause per album, like a noble humanitarian, but how noble is it if it is just to sell albums? Ask the workers in Beyonce's sweat shop how they feel about her humanitarian efforts? They would probably tell you she's cool, but they would prefer more than $0.44 cents an hour. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 15:07)

Re: Case in point Andrew (64,142) by Anonymous from You make me laugh. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 14:39)

Ribbon (64,141) by Anonymous from I think that's why most of us follow Mariah and support her, because it makes us feel good somewhat. I definitely don't rely on Mariah to speak for me, nor do I lack the ability to express how I feel. I think I am partly doing my bit already, expressing the disappointment that someone I have admired for years is not showing any discontent or acklogement to what's going on. I marched in Birmigham yesterday to protest against the shootings that are happening, I've never done anything like that in my life but wanted to. I will never expect Mariah to fight for me and I certainly don't pass the book. I'm not getting on my house and thinking my words are golden but I am trying to do something. I think her not responding has finally broke the camel's back for me. To be honest I feel better expressing my inner thoughts about Mariah now instead of making allowances for her. I'm not trying to make this forum negative, as I've said before I rarely post but on this occasion I'm glad I've said something. Only time will tell how I feel towards her but my love for her music will never change (Sunday 10 July 2016; 14:38)

Re: Mariah's stance (64,134) (64,140) by THE TRUTH from USA Don't you get it? Mariah isn't scared of anything except becoming irrelevant. She doesn't care about black people, gay people or anybody who can't advance her celebrity or bank account. Plain and simple, she has never cared. It's always been smoke and mirrors. When she was with Tommy he crafted her image and made her treat her fans with reverance, never leaving a performance with a single fan waiting for an autograph. He made her dress conservatively, speak with humilty, praise God, even going so far as to have Sony fund a complete reshoot of her first video because he thought it was too sexy. Tommy understood marketing and had it down to a science. As soon as Mariah had her freedom she began going full speed in the opposite direction, negating every lesson Mottola taught her. Childlike, she rebelled against the very methods which guided her success believing that her celebrity and admitedly extraordinary talent would be enough to ensure that the festivities would continue until the end of time. Not to be rude but I'd encourage everyone who is angry or heart broken about current events to go out and make your voices heard. Reclaim our democracy and stop waiting for Mariah to speak out, she really doesn't care about us. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 14:20)

Re: Case in point (64,135) (64,138) by Lance from Jones I think that you should stop being jealous of James. He does not spend his time over analyzing the life of his idol the way you do. He achieved a lot and deserves it. You are not funny with your desperate remarks. In fact it makes you seem like a clown because James can buy and sell you with his pocket change irrespective of how he looks. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and Mariah seems happy with him so let it be. You should not pick on his looks because perhaps others may rate you a scraping 1 in their eyes. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 13:41)

Re: Mariah's behavior (64,114) (64,136) by May from Denmark To be completely honest, in my eyes Mariah has always acted grandiose since Music Box. Her interviews regarding music up to this day are the only grounded sounding. When it's not about music, she acts as she always did. Just this week I was looking at some nostalgia backstage interviews and perks, and saw some from the Daydream era, Mariah, holding the glass of wine in one hand, inviting the interviewer some too, then running all over the street foolishly back and forth, laughing out loud just because the air blew as she tends to do, in a mini skirt with high heels. Sorry, but she has always been this way, I feel that the only difference is that somehow, throught all her "90s respectable Mariah with her blue tetris shaped gown singing Hero", Mottola held her back in interviews, having her publicist always being right there to tell her how to act (we pitifully had to witness once in an uncut interview). Mariah came full force showing her funny side when Rainbow came out and she was free to act as pleased, we all remember the craziness of Bianca, yet we took it in a fun way, she was young, she could get away with that. But more and more, the Mariah that we see today, started to emerge. She has always been since day one the sexy vixen braless pluck down cleavage girl, playing with her hair, flirting with her voice, laughing coquettish, wearing skimpy clothes, only through Music Box and part of Daydream she was the most dressed up and then she doesn't own it up, she likes to remind people that that "wasn't her", was there ever a time she didn't have a glass of wine? My only concern is that now at days she does seem to drink more than she used to. I don't feel surprised or shocked by her revealing clothing and they don't bother me neither, I don't feel embarrassed as some fans because she is an individual and a grown up woman with all the right to dress however she pleases, the only thing that would make me embarrassed as a fan is something like her failed lip-synch of Fantasy in Jamaica, because I defend a singer, not a model. Past that, regarding the Orlando I thought she didn't want to post out of controversy after the Pray For Paris. But "Black lives matter" makes me wonder, I understand she is on vacation with her fiance, friends and family, I understand she has people in charge of her social media (like always, she hardly ever posted something on her own, if people really believe she has been posting stuff all the time by herself in the past, well, they certainly live under a rug) so at least follow the hashtag but nothing. I believe that right now (and since years for the most part) Mariah is simply suffering from the Prince syndrome as I call it, "Prince living in Prince world", like the story of the camel told by Kevin Smith, Prince's publicist and manager at the time said to Smith "Prince calls us at times, and if Prince calls us and is 3 am in Minnesota and he wants a camel and tell us to go get it, we have to explain to him it's January in Minnesota, a camel, that's not possible and he says but why", I feel very much like Mariah is on the same state of mind, she is oblivious to the outside world, not in a malicious way just like Prince but completely living in the eternally 12, splashes, festive moments added to the Stella's formula, hashtag work hard-play hard-party-hard, hashtag livelife, hashtag empoweringwomen, hashtag everythingshouldhaveahashtag. I don't swallow neither the whole thing of "she has forgotten Jesus" because as an atheist I think it is stupid to think a person lost the plot of life just because Jesus is out. In my opinion she is a woman who has absolutely everything and right now doesn't know what else to do with her life and music or Jesus doesn't seem to fulfill her anymore or she might be going through a mid-life crisis. Sometimes I like to think she is just fine every time I see her with her darling children but then again, a picture of a 2 minutes is just a picture, doesn't show all that is going on in the background. The circus is on with Mariah in the mega-love-boat as well but this time Kristoffer is not there and who really thought Bryan was going to be there, really, come on haha. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 12:52)

Case in point (64,135) by Andrew from UK I imagine this will be heavily censored because it's not about Stella but I feel the point should be emphatically made for the record. Evidence in point of Mariah's personality: James Packer. On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being Sloth from the Goonies and 10 being Brad Pitt, he's scraping a 2 with the tips of his fingernails in the belief that at number 2 there is a chicken madras waiting for him. If he were to lose his money tomorrow, if all was lost and he was destitute, would Mariah still marry him? I think we all know the answer to that one. Again, another example of [censored] you really just couldn't make up. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 12:31)

Mariah's stance (64,134) by darrian liu from taiwan I don't get why Mariah might be scared to voice out her stance on the Black Lives Matter movement, the Orlando shootings, Alton Sterling, etc. She has been very vocal about her always feeling like an outsider being biracial and those events should be the events she is most vocal about. I agree with Marissa and others, Mariah is a legend and shouldn't be discouraged from voicing out her opinion. Look at Beyonce. Her message about the Black Lives Matter movement and Alton Sterling are powerful and she's not afraid despite being threatened to be boycotted by the police and being called racist by many priviledged ignorant fools. She is not even a legend yet, but she still uses her status as an icon as a platform to express her stance on important social happenings. Mariah gotta stop all the flaunting of lifestyle and diamonds because for an artist with such talent it is very shallow. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 12:27)

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