Messageboard

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,111) (64,133) by Andrew from UK I think it's safe to say that whilst a great many people will always love (most of) Mariah's catalogue, the days of actually loving Mariah as a person are either at an end or coming to it. She genuinely has very few redeeming qualities left and innit somebody fans can actually be proud of as a person. Talking of her person, there is usually some mutation of the sentence "Oh, she's so (insert debatable and mocked quality) but that why I love her." Her reputation in the press and with Joe Public is not unwarranted. Lambs may bleat about Mariah needing to show "who she really is" but who she really is, in actuality, is a vain, aloof, champagne-swigging, arrogant, self-obsessed, money-oriented diva, who lip-syncs and airbrushes her way through life. And whilst many lambs will bleat at that sentence alone about how people who admit that way should just get a life and go, the problem is is that 98% of the record buying public already have. And 1 of the other 2% is telling the other 1, who are trying to envisage a way though this catastrophic denouement to what was once a remarkable career, to get lost. You couldn't make this shit up lol. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 12:22)

Re: Rare 1990 interview (64,127) (64,132) by Andrew from UK "No. No, I would never lip-sync." The question of what 1990 Mariah would think of 2016 Mariah is probably answered somewhere in that sentence. Still, it's good to see old interviews, the ones before Mariah began her one woman champagne advertising campaign. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 12:08)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,126) (64,131) by RibbonB from USA If she says something, someone somewhere will say it's too much, too soon, too little or too late. People aren't that influenced by her words or anyone else's, and if you don't agree with their words they get dragged for filth. Wendy Williams made a stupid comment about HBCU's and many people would love to know that she got flayed by so called "black twitter" lol. I just think people tend to make too much of whether or not Mariah has said something or not. I'm sure she would prefer her opinion could drive people to buy her records, but alas. Her platform is hers alone, just like anyone else who has one. The president, Dali Lama, Oprah, or anyone else can only do so much and really only what they feel inclined to do. And the self righteous people about people being spiritual would complain about her saying pray for whatever. Not criticizing you, but do your part instead of pushing Mariah to do her part to make you or others feel better. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 11:51)

New interviews/posts and so on (64,130) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I feel like Mariah has been lacking substance lately and her team is surely not doing anything to improve it. What I loved about Mariah was that during interviews and all you could tell she is knowledgeable, humble and deep and so mature. Nowadays everything she does or talks about is basically showing off riches and her jet-setting lifestyle, big diamond necklaces with her lingerie and what not. Don't get me wrong, she definitely has the right to enjoy it, she worked hard to earn these. But it doesn't just stop with her social media posts, it spills over into her interviews. Nowadays her interviews are only about her ring, her diva demands, the dahlin' galore, hair flips and what not. There are never enough questions about her music especially in the interviews aired on TV, when we know darn well that her team has the power to get those questions put in. If one didn't know better, or if one didn't know about her legendary status, Mariah would almost be mistaken for a socialite and not a musical genius, a legend who paved the way for many. Even when Mariah was a rambling mess during the MIAM era, there were times when she still showed the serious deep side of her. Ever since then she is now just coming across as ignorant, self-important and attention seeking diva. People say her image has improved since her new team, I don't see any improvement apart from the great improvement in her voice. I love Mariah and I loved the interviews she used to give which were inspiring and enlightening. Nowadays we only get publicity stunts (something Mariah never resorted to before) and do it for the instagram moments, which her team (mainly the Bulochnikovs) encourage to no end. Stella herself is all about showing how glamorous her life is (when it's not her life, it's Mariah's) and she makes Mariah do the same. We need back the artist who inspired so many people by showing how they can make it if they believe, who inspired so many to pursue their dreams, who inspired so many to not give in and commit suicide because there is more to life. And I know deep inside Mariah still is that person. She needs to let it out. Because I am seeing so many of her die hard fans even on this board slowly detaching from her (with good reasons since she seems to be detaching from them). I also am starting to feel like maybe it's time to just step back and just enjoy her music, instead of worrying about her life. Because she'll do whatever she wants either ways. I won't buy the whole "oh she was always wronged by the media so she has stopped caring". Almost every celeb has been wronged by the media to some extent, even America's sweetheart Taylor has been portrayed as a manipulative, attention seeking, clingy/crazy person who keeps moving from boys to boys. Mariah shouldn't abandon her true fans for that. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 11:50)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,120) (64,129) by Musti from UK I wouldn't say either Orlando or BML are strictly political matters. These problems are probably best fixed by raising social awareness and changing public opinion. I'd understand why practically no celebrity has commented on the plenty terrorist attacks around the world since last year (Belgium, France, Turkey, etc.) as they have deeper political implications. But especially considering that she identifies more with being black and that a big chunk of her core fanbase is gay men, it's almost her duty to take part in both causes. Many decent celebrities go way beyond their day jobs on social media to make their accounts more appealing, like actively supporting charities, or doing talk shows with other celebrities (like Mary J), or blogging about practically everything (like Brandy), whereas Mariah shamelessly posts pics of her boobs and diamonds and extravagant life style even during times of social unrest. It's not right and, as many of you have already said, it's hard to believe this is the humble adult I fell in love with all those years ago. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 11:10)

RibbonB (64,128) by Anonymous from Mariah is lucky to still have a fan like you who's still got the patience to make allowances for her behaviour. She has got a lot going but haven't we all? As Marissa said I don't expect Mariah to become a news anchor and report on every matter but I do think there comes a time when you should say something. Mariah is extremely busy but she still makes time to do stupid poses, the time it takes to pose she could post. I think Mariah's team see Mariah fans as part of her business rather than loyal supporters. Mariah knows she's not connecting the way that she used to and is choosing to be less involved. I don't expect constant contact but some acknowledgment and respect wouldn't go a miss. I hope you're right, that when things settle she will settle, until then I'm not adding anymore to her fortune nor notierity. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 10:52)

Re: Rare 1990 interview (64,105) (64,127) by Martyn from England, UK Yes it is the same lady. She also has a dislike of Mariah nowadays, she's been nasty about her on several occasions. She was on a game show over here and she said that Mariah was the worst guest she's ever had on her show. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 10:49)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,120) (64,126) by Marissa from USA Here is my thing, yes MC is an entertainer, but we live in a society where people pay 40 times more attention to entertainers thoughts and opinions than we do to scholars and politicians. This is the exact reason why I love when entertainers take a stand on something, because they will be heard compared to a Senator in Montana who no one knows. We especially need more white and racially ambiguous-looking people speaking out because people feel like "here they go again complaining" when black people speak out, but when non-blacks or people who don't look black take a stand it tends to legitimize the movement more. It's sad that that is what it takes, but it's true. This whole situation reminds me of the quote, "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." If it was "safe" for her to say "Pray for Paris" and address the Malaysia Airline crash victims, why is the taking of innocent black lives forbidden to be discussed or "too political" for her? A loss is a loss, but it seems strange that anytime it involves oppressed people (like gays or blacks) it's too political to be spoken of. What do you work so hard to get a platform for if you are going to be acting just as scared to take a stand as a rookie? Just a thought. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 10:46)

The Truth (64,125) by Anonymous from I second that. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 10:37)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,120) (64,124) by THE TRUTH from USA She will say something if she realizes she is losing some of her fan base but it will be too little, too late. Damage done and it's clear why the call her Mimi. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 10:26)

Best wishes to Chaka Khan (64,123) by RibbonB from USA I understand she just voluntarily went into rehab for an addiction to painkillers. These are scary times especially for hardworking entertainers who often do more than their bodies should be able to do. That is a tough industry and we all know that Mariah had a very painful arm/shoulder injury a couple of years ago. I am hoping all is well with her and her arm. Aretha, Mariah, Chaka and Sade are my absolute favorites. After the loss of Prince, we just have to hope that people we look up to are taking the very best care of themselves. If they don't it's been shown time and time again that often, no one else will. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 9:18)

Article: Mariah Carey goes braless in a lace-up top (64,122) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I remember a post here not so long ago referring to Mariah's penchant for flaunting her bra in a lot of her recent looks. Well apparently during that short amount of time, little did we know that that little issue she has with bras has escalated into hatred. Bra-less is the new bra out, everybody. And yes, we're still talking about Mariah Carey. Award-winning singer, prodigious talent, bestselling artist, savvy businesswoman, bonafide diva, loving mother, and a nip slip waiting to happen. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 8:47)

Marissa (64,121) by Anonymous from I couldn't have put it better myself and agree with you 100 percent. Mariah is going to start losing some of her hardcore fans if she carries on the way she's heading. I'm really angry with her. Even Kim K has spoken out about the shootings, I'm not a fan but I respect her for being vocal to her millions of followers. Nick Cannon is out there marching and voicing his opinions, I think even he's now too deep for Mariah now. I was fortunate to meet Mariah in March at a concert, we weren't allowed to handover gifts there and then, so I asked one of the backstage managers if they could pass on a card, I did explain what it was for. The card was for the charity that I work for, it's celebrating 50 years of providing services to young and old with poor mental health. Basically I put a simple massage in it saying well down for providing services for 50 years. All she had to do was sign it, and I even included an envelope addressed with a stamp. Still to this day nothing. Stella probably thought this is crap, we can't flaunt this on social media. Now I'm not holding a grudge or else would have shared this sooner but it did make me think, wow, the money I've spent on you over the years, I finally get to meet you, I don't choose to have anything of mine signed but for the charity I work for instead and you basically think it's irrelevant or the people running the show do. That's who you're rolling with Mariah... well done. I'm mixed race and feel incredibly disappointed that shes remained silent on the treatment of black people, especially when over the years she's banged on about being oppressed and treated differently for the colour of her skin. That was one of the initial things that connected me with Mariah, I could relate to that. Well I'm taking a stand now, I'm not buying anymore of her sh*t until I feel she's connecting more with her fans and not acting like a selfish moron. Why should I increase her wealth when she's choosing not to use her power and take a few minutes to write a few words on the authorities that has happened to the gay and black communities. I can't support her endeavours as it honestly doesn't feel right in my heart. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 8:24)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,116) (64,120) by RibbonB from USA I hear ya, but IMO Mariah doesn't need to speak on this or any subject especially if she is not in that frame of mind. She is an entertainer and if she decides to remain silent on Orlando or Black Lives Matter, or any subject I am cool with that. She is not a politician and her personal words don't give me any comfort, unless it's [...] or [...] or some inspirational song. This world has some huge problems and M. already needs an entourage for her own day to day life. Songwriting is her area of expertise. Obviously she is preoccupied now, but that too may change. I believe we are about to see a turnaround and I think eventually it will be for the better. Some people love what she is putting out lately, but many don't. When things stop working for her and her children she will adjust. Hopefully she will find the right balance for her. She is doing so much, even too much lately and that has got to slow down because what goes up, must come down. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 4:21)

R&B Real Talk with Mariah Carey (64,119) by 123 from USA This was a great interview. My only complaint was that it was too short. Stella needs to make sure the interviewers ask more musical questions. She always seems to shine when she talks about music. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 4:03)

Re: Mariah's World is still a go (64,106) (64,118) by TRAVON AUSTIN from United States I am 24 years old. I was born in the 90s and I hate Santa Clause. Santa is a fake image that ruins childrens' hearts once they find out he is not real. Back to the topic which is; some old fans from the 90s are stuck on something high. Unless E news makes a statement or I see an article with your perceived (delusional) family member as the author, I will cite what I see on a credible article, as facts. In school they teach children to learn how to get useful information from credible sources instead of ideas. They ask the students to create and seperate their new ideas from their own already formed opinions. This in return provides the children with perspective relating to what's real and what's not. It also allows them to develop facts based upon credible sources. In conclusion, the children will understand the difference between a fact from an opinion. I would suggest you to go back to school and learn it again. I was taught to to perceive facts from a credible standpoint. Thank you and have a great day. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 2:48)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,111) (64,116) by Marissa from USA If you do not use your celebrity platform to advocate for something, your fame has no value but serving your ego and vanity. I can understand why in the beginning MC didn't want to be controversial or political because she did not want to put her career at risk when it was so new and fragile, but the woman is a legend now. She can get away with taking a stand without being blacklisted by the music industry. Look at Beyonce. She played the game so she could ascend to the top and then reminded the world that she didn't forget about her fellow black people nor the fact that she's black herself. The level of atrocities that is happening to blacks in her own home country is disgusting and should not be ignored. This is the same woman who has said several times, "If your father is black, you're black." The same woman who has been surrounded by nothing but black people up until this past year. Who has black kids. There is always something crazy happening in the world so I'm not expecting her to become a news anchor, but the country is having an all-out race war. This is a non-stop epidemic of violence. You at least say that you are praying for peace. I am disgusted that she is more comfortable being criticized for having her boobs out than she is for taking a stand on social issues. If you know that people are going to talk shit about you anyway, you might as well let them talk about you for doing something noble. Use your platform for something besides showing off your diamonds. I know the positivity police are going to come out soon, so please note that all of the things that we complain about with Mariah are byproducts of her abandoning her connection with the fans. The same complaints keep arising because we are not being listened to like we were for over 20 years. Fan letters aren't being read, messageboards aren't being checked, WWLD is defunct and social media conversations have been axed. A lot of the things that we talk about are quick and simple fixes if she actually tried to hear us out like she used to. You all can shout at us all you want but it is hurtful to watch someone you loved pull away from you after you have supported them for years and it is hurt that is really what is underneath the surface of what seems like anger. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 1:48)

Re: Rare 1990 interview (64,105) (64,115) by Bill from the UK That was me, and yes it is the same lady. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 1:29)

Re: Mariah's behavior (64,108) (64,114) by RibbonB from USA I'm hoping Nick is fighting for that. I hope Mariah gets back to being or at least acting more grounded and less grandiose, for her children's sake. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 1:07)

The Truth (64,112) by Anonymous from You've summarised to a degree what I've just said, she's no longer the Mariah she was but her music is ever lasting. Yes she hasn't been completely vocal on social media but she has through lyrics and interviews. Her present situation is somewhat contradictory in the sense that she is trying to live up to the times with branching out through modern technology such as social media, acting very look at me, yet she chooses to not acknowkwdge things that are happening in the world when many with a voice are. No one can change my opinion in regards to speaking up for what you believe in, no matter what, you can always get your point across in a certain way, I don't think Mariah cares enough to do that or at least is choosing not to. Like many, people choose to keep there mouths shut in case it affects there environment or how they're judged, in my opinion life is too short. (Sunday 10 July 2016; 0:07)

Re: Never thought I'd say this... (64,110) (64,111) by THE TRUTH from USA You just gave me pause to reflect. Your post inspired me to do a search on google, first to see if Mariah tweeted about Philando Castile, BLM, Orlando, and to my surprise the silence was deafening. Mind you I wasn't really expecting much but at least you would think there would be some scant mention. I've never thought of her as a socially conscious celebrity in fact all I just loved those 90s classics of hers but saw from the start that her focus was entirely on herself. I do think the title of her recently shelfed reality show speaks volumes for her nature. She lives in her me I'm a celebrity with lots of money and I'll tweet semi nude selfies of me and my diamonds ceasingly while the rest of the world burns down around me. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not expecting anything of Mariah the human being, I'll settle for the timeless records she made back in the 90s and be more than happy with that. (Saturday 9 July 2016; 23:30)

Never thought I'd say this... (64,110) by Anonymous from Guys I've been coming on to this site for years and rarely post unless I really feel the need to do so. I can't believe I'm saying this but I really feel like I no longer know Mariah. The person that I've followed and respected for years is now someone I barely recognise. Obviously we all change as we age but usually we evolve into something stronger and more secure, Mariah is not showing this. I don't think she respects her fans nor appreciates them the way that she used to. Social media is no longer in her hands, showing solidarity for the gay community as well as the black community is no longer expressed, despite the atrocities. It's all about procalaming self gratification, portraying to the world her life is great, and raking the money even if it goes against principles i.e performing for dictators or having a reality show when, no end of times, has ridiculed others for doing the same thing. I will always love Mariah's songs, her creativity but dare I say it, I think I'm slowly falling out of love with the person that I thought she was. Maybe things will calm down, I'm hopeful but I'm also realistic. I just hope that Mariah fixes up. Sick of this trashy, shallow self gratification image. I feel like I can share these sad thoughts with you all as most of my family and friends would just be dismissive of them in relation to Mariah. Thanks for listening guys. (Saturday 9 July 2016; 22:30)

This is how... (64,109) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago Mariah's fashion should be reported. Yes, it has nothing to do with her artistry, but the level of respect meted out to a singer who has basically never written a song or melody is so obvious. Yes it could also be sexism and ageism, but alas we have to allow MC to be herself. It's a "hopeful dream" though. (Saturday 9 July 2016; 22:16)

Re: Mariah's behavior (64,107) (64,108) by Marissa from USA I think Mariah was naive when she said she believed that she could give her kids a stable, normal life. That will not be possible until she retires. She can't be active in her career and simultaneously provide normalcy for her children. And it's not just Mariah, no celebrity has the ability to do that. Her kids appear to be very sweet and not bratty at all, but I think as a parent, especially if you are rich, you have to make a conscious decision to expose your kids to how the other half lives so they never develop an entitled attitude. It's okay for an adult who is grounded in themselves to start living the luxurious life and never look back, but you don't want your kids to think that everyone owns a private plane, yacht and Rolls Royce. And let's be honest, as long as they are with Mariah they are going to think that throwing on a $500,000 diamond necklace at 7 am is normal. None of this makes Mariah a bad mother, but it's clear that her goal of giving them a normal life is not being achieved. Ironically, the only normalcy they seem to be getting is from their visits with Nick, so at least they have some exposure to a life that is less over-the-top. If I were Nick I wouldn't want my kids living such a fast-paced, grandiose lifestyle at such a young age. I'd rather them not take part in that until they're old enough to realize that private planes, 5 star hotels and luxury cars are privileges, not basic human rights. (Saturday 9 July 2016; 21:03)

Mariah's behavior (64,107) by Butterfly from Mariah's traveling all over the world non stop. From her tours, vacation in Italy, St Barts to LA to NY to Vegas. Staying in Ohio a month to shoot a movie, filming her reality show in Calabasas etc. There are different people around her children non stop. How is that healthy and putting your children first? She always talked about wanting a normal life for them. If you want them to have a healthy life, live in one city and let them go to one school without being shuffled around to city to city just because you want to make more money. Children need stability. One school and seeing friends everyday in school. Not a teacher giving them private lessons in a plane or hotel. Mariah claimed Vegas was perfect because she could stay in one place for her children. Talk is cheap. Action speaks louder. But it's not surprising if you see what Stella thinks is important in life. Not school for her children, just having fun. Mariah has a drink in almost every picture. She went from Champagne/wine to hard liquor (since Stella). I've seen pictures/videos the past 6 months. Mariah is high/drunk whatever and barely can talk and walk straight. I love her but truth must be told. Nobody cares enough to step up and tell her to sit down and act like an adult. She's lost and acting weird again. (Saturday 9 July 2016; 20:01)

MORE MESSAGES