348 Elusive Chanteuse Show 87 Christmas concerts 1 tree lighting 15 Jazz festival Those numbers above are the amount of songs Mariah sang for each event. The Elusive Chanteuse Show consisted of 20 concerts sang in 6 weeks. Compare that to the Daydream Tour where Mariah sang 8 concerts in 3 months. MC's current tour had well over twice the concerts in half the time frame. These 4 events were done over 4 months. That's 451 songs sung in 4 months time. The tree lighting performance went viral while her week of Christmas concerts were overlooked. A clip from Japan went viral while the other 19 concerts were ignored. Fantasy from the Jazz Festival went viral while the other 14 weren't seen. That's a grand total of 3 songs that went viral out of 451 songs. That's not even 1%. If we were to count the entire Japan and Jazz concert as "bad" with the tree lighting performance that would be 39 songs out of 451. That's 8%. If you think Mariah's "ruining her legacy" because less than 1% of the time (or 8%) is your version of the "bad outweighing the good" than I think it's time you stop regurgitating what the media feeds you. You've OD'ed. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 8:24)
Just for balance, Las Vegas (50,590)
by nikki from usa
When Celine first began Vegas, it wasn't to rave reviews or to the numbers she's currently selling. She was slammed hard by critics for her first year. She kept going and as time progressed things got better and better for her. Britney spent over $100,000 making her Vegas announcement. But, what I want to point out is that neither woman sold out their shows within weeks of making their first ever announcement. Even now, their shows are usually sold out for the first few legs once they've began and gradually decline. Las Vegas is a tourism capitol and Caesar's already made a report within the first few weeks that they were impressed with how fast MC's 18 shows were selling. I wouldn't expect them to really pick up in sales until we're nearing the month of showtime. Both Celine and Britney did a special to promote their shows, but they didn't do a whole lot other than that. This is new to Mariah, so I wouldn't be shocked if she had a rough start. But, I have no doubt she'll end on top. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 7:48)
Video: MC talks about her hand movements (50,588)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet. Love her smile in this video. She seems happy here. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 1:37)
Annoyed (50,586)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
Is anyone else annoyed when a news story about Nick Cannon is posted to this site? Uh. I can't even look at the guy. I have no interest in what he has to say, even if it is about the twins. How about posting a picture of "dem babies" instead of Nick? Yeah I know, "Nick will be around and associated with MC for a long time so get use to it." I could say a lot more but I 'll just stop right here. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 1:22)
Promoting the Vegas residency (50,585)
by Jared from USA
I've just read online that Madonna will be the musical guest on Ellen for an entire week in support of her new album. It's brilliant, and I feel that it will boost her sales somewhat. I do hope that Mariah's team has a major promotional push planned for Vegas and the #1's re-issue. If she's adding a brand new single to the mix, she should be performing it on TV at every high-rated show. Preferably, she would be doing entirely live performances to avoid backing track mishaps like the GMA circa 2008 performance of TMB ("stop singing my part now baby") and other recent disasters. Several of you have suggested a documentary of her road to the Vegas show and behind-the-scenes looks at the show. If tastefully done, this could really help her win new fans and win back lost lambs. They could also do a week-long rollout of sneak peeks at the show to whet everyone's appetites leading up to May 6. Yes, I want Mariah to work her behind off and rise back to the top where she belongs. However, I also want her to take care of herself and her family. I hope they can find a balance between an aggressive promotional effort and a healthy lifestyle for our beloved MC. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 1:13)
Re: Whitney Mariah Celine Madonna Janet (50,584)
by jaker20 from US
Here's how I rank them in terms of personal preference based on their overall talent: 1. MC 2. Madonna 3. Celine 4. Whitney 5. Janet In terms of public image, I think both are being ridiculed by the new generation, MC for her lipping and weight, and Madonna for her age. I think Madonna and MC probably have better appreciation of each other now than they did 20 or 10 years ago because they're going through somewhat similar public scrutiny by a generation that is generally not kind of women over 40. Whitney, Celine and MC are very similar vocal divas. But MC one-upped them both for being a hugely successful songwriter. I think Celine is being received by the public better because she really did step back from her career to live a private family life. I think she's going through tough times now with her husband's cancer. Janet's career was permanently damaged by that performance with Justin Timberlake. I think MC will outlive all these women's music catalog, they will stand the test of time longer, especially her Christmas catalog will make her relevant for years even decades. Provided she doesn't completely destroy her legacy with constant lipping and embarrassing appearances which she seem to instill into public memory for generations to mock. Ohterwise, it is better for her to retire. (Tuesday 3 March 2015; 0:49)
Vegas documentary (50,583)
by Lee TS from USA
Yeah, it would be really cool if Mariah would do a documentary on her journey to Vegas. I really like this one Celine did for Oprah's channel and it's beautfully made. I know Britney also did one for her residency with E and that one was just ok. I don't know for some reason I didn't really like Mariah's E Uncut for TEOM although it was cute. (Monday 2 March 2015; 23:48)
Mariah and Whitney / Oscars, Oprah (50,582)
by Billy from Greece
Since it was recently mentioned here (in a different context), I thought about bringing it up. I get the impression that most fans prefer Mariah and Whitney live on Oprah. That was also my initial preference, though at this point I prefer the Oscars' version. What I realized about the Oprah live was that there was some overdubbing on Mariah's first big note on the refrain, while the vocal interplay between the two was a bit rougher compared to the Oscars. While some people say that Whitney dominated in the Oscars, if you watch the duet on a good quality video, the performances were complimentary. What I love about Mariah in that performance is that, while not necessarily at her loudest, her voice was very agile, and the many nuances that to me are the highlight of the performance. Whitney's bottom notes were very resounding, no doubt, yet Mariah's high notes (both in the bridge and in the climax) are much clearer than the Oprah version. I also find Mariah's interpretation in the Oscars more expressive compared to the Oprah duet, though that was impressive in its own right. Finally, both MC and Nippy looked stunning in the white dresses, and the setting was very arresting. Looking back at it, with a distance of a decade and a half at this point, it is a highlight in Mariah's career, and also a great testament of that precious collaboration and diva friendship. I love diva collaborations. (Monday 2 March 2015; 23:41)
Vegas (50,581)
by B from USA
I hope Mariah rearranges her hits to fit her current voice. Instead of straining to hit notes that could damage or ruin her voice permanently. (Monday 2 March 2015; 23:22)
MC (50,580)
by B from USA
Mariah is working on her upcoming residency. To think otherwise is foolish. She knows what's at stake. She most likely is working with a vocal coach to get her voice in shape. That way she doesn't have to use a backing track or lip. She's been ridiculed for depending on them and lipping poorly. (Monday 2 March 2015; 23:11)
Jamacia Jazz (50,579)
by B from USA
Her ab libs during those performance, which were clearly live, were amazing. Her voice sounded in fine form during those. I'm going to Vegas to see her and I'm so excited. She delivered during her Christmas concerts at the Beacon. People need to stop expecting her performances to sound like they did during the 90's. I'm going to continue to support her and look forward to her future release and endevors. (Monday 2 March 2015; 23:03)
Another tv/concert documentary series (50,578)
by Cgee54 from Usa
I think Mariah would benefit from doing one of these tv documentary/concert like the one she did in 2003 when she released Charmbracelet. (Monday 2 March 2015; 22:59)
Mariah's state (50,577)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
I have just watched the Jamaica concert, and I'm not happy. I think Mariah is in a bad place right now, she didn't sing one song as it should be done and she was all over the place. I guess she was a bit tipsy that evening, but if you have to be that to hold a concert something is wrong. The voice is there, I don't know why she is messing it up so much. For the Vegas shows I'll hope she keep it together and sings the song properly. Her legend status is at stake here, if she have many performances like Jamaica, she will never be hired again anywhere. I am a die hard fan of Mariah and I don't know what has happened to her. I guess when she gets the divorce at a distance and finds herself again things will be great again. But what will happen if she lips the Vegas concerts? Her voice has to be sharp. Does anyone else here have concerns about her Vegas shows? On another note, she never gets any airplay her in Norway, but when I was at the dentist this week, I heard Hero on the radio. I was so happy. (Monday 2 March 2015; 22:40)
Hand movements (50,575)
by Abraham from USA
Funny this topic was brought up. I can picture Andrew doing them to Celine's boring a** songs lol. (Monday 2 March 2015; 17:39)
Whitney Mariah Celine Madonna Janet (50,574)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
Oh boy, here we are again, discussing the good old divas. Those who lived in the 90's surely cannot escape from hearing and listening to these 5 ultimate divas. It's a shame that those 5 were not able to share a stage together. The year 1997/1998 were definitely the year where all these divas releasing their masterpiece album. Whitney: My Love Is Your Love Mariah: Butterfly Celine: Let's Talk About Love Madonna: Ray Of Light Janet: Velvet Rope (Monday 2 March 2015; 16:05)
Mariah Carey (50,572)
by Otti from Belgium
When I was still at school, it was cooler to be a fan of Mariah than being a fan of Celine Dion. Mariah at that time had hits like "Fantasy", "ABMB", "Honey" and "The roof". And there is the big difference. Mariah went where no one of her "generation" went. She was pop and hip hop at the same time. Her videos where more sexy, her biracial looks made her unique. I remember that I always thought that Mariah was "white" and at the same time confused. I"m talking "Music box" and "Daydream" era. Until she "spoke" Spanish in "Honey". Mariah is the only artist who has been copied by many artists: Leona, Christina, Beyonce, Ariana, J.Lo, Jessica Simpson, even Celine Dion (I remember a picture of her, I think "Let's talk about love" album). See Google. (Monday 2 March 2015; 15:10)
Mariah's biggest fan at 18 months (50,571)
by Warrior Butterfly from USA
I ran across this roaming around YouTube, it made me cry and happy that someone so young could comforted by Mariah's music. Get well soon little one, love the lambily. (Monday 2 March 2015; 9:33)
Dear Mariah (50,569)
by CHAZ from USA
Dear Mariah, first of all, I'll be a lamb for life. Of course, you're going through something major in your life right now. Maybe you need to take a break. But if you feel like you don't, you need to sing from your heart (however your voice can wither) every single time like you did like at the Apollo Theater in the beginning of your career. Just sing like you're trying to prove something for the very first time (even though you don't need to), so people (old fans and new) can resonate. You're an icon, and I would hate for people to think otherwise. I really hope you don't disappoint in Vegas. I am looking forward to seeing you live for the third time. Please drop the attitude and the diva factor. Humbleness gets you everywhere. Thank you for 15 years of musical genius, and I love you. Bryant. (Monday 2 March 2015; 7:00)
Jon, TheVoice / that 1993 rendition (50,568)
by Edward from USA
Jon, when Mariah didn't have to worry about her voice working or not on a performance, she could concentrate on being an entertainer through her gestures, emotion, and confidence. She would even try some dance moves. Now you can clearly see she is more focused on getting through the performance rather than enjoying the performance itself. She's more into being careful about not messing up certain notes than delivering a stellar performance. When she had control over her voice, I don't remember any "glitches" with her earpieces. That rendition of Hero portrays a confident woman with total control of her instrument and technique. I hope she brings some of that confidence to her Vegas shows. I hope she stops using the whistle register as a facade, it is not working anymore. I'm happy she's keeping quiet. She needs to bring a different and more positive attitude before her Vegas run begins. TheVoice, thanks for your words. After I expressed my opinion about Mariah's new booty, I thought everybody hated me. I guess I had been listening to "All About The Bass" too much. (Monday 2 March 2015; 3:21)
I blame Mariah (50,567)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
For getting me into the habit of doing crazy (yet oh-so-awesome) hand movements every time I listen to her songs. It's not even intentional. It just happens so naturally. I love MC going crazy on stage, suddenly running around and as Jon put it, "punching a ghost" and all the moves. Jon I just want to say you gave me a good laugh and now I will always think of what you said every time I see those moves. Lol "handing out pancakes" what on earth? MC said she didn't realize at first she used to do that, but I think the hand gestures comes from the fact that she gets so into the song. (Monday 2 March 2015; 2:18)
Live, love, laugh (50,566)
by Andrew from UK
Best old school Mariah arm movement is in that video: at "You can find love". You wave the to the word "love" quickly then throw it down to the ground without even looking and move on to other words. Stupid word. Mariah's over you. She got some pointing to do. *sigh* Now it's just fiddle with ear-piece and look like you really need to get off stage for an alcoholic beverage. Or, if you start getting sweats, just have someone press play and f*ck off for one in the middle of the song. Lol you were with me up until that comment, right? Let's all go punch a ghost. (Monday 2 March 2015; 1:59)
Andrew (50,565)
by Jon from Netherlands
Early today I found out Celine Dion has been trying to shoot down God and Mariah is a ghostbuster. I had to laugh out loud. I searched YT for a good montage of hand movements but didn't find it. WBT at MTV comes to mind as a good example (restrained but awesome) but I've been wanting to share this video and is appropriate now because it showcases important moves including (but not limited to): "banging on the door", "I want you for the army", " British queen turbo wave" and the inevitable "handing out of pancakes to the audience" in the end. All of this is taking me back to when I started being a fan. I was blowned away. That CTTA at Divas Live was fierce and also had the badass raising of the eye brown warning you that you better not try to take it away from her because she will hunt you down. Gotta love Mariah. Just gotta love her. She does suck you in. Everybody should watch her performances. The world would be, in a matter of pie, filled with Mariah fans. (Monday 2 March 2015; 0:25)
Let me explain (50,564)
by B from USA
I had a video of Celine preforming MHWGO during which she strained to hit her last note, the note at the climax. I can't find it and the link didn't copy. (Monday 2 March 2015; 0:06)
Zach Braff (50,563)
by Isiah from USA
I thought this was interesting. Zach Braff worked on the set of Mariah Carey's videos. Here's a clip of him talking about "The Roof" shoot. (Monday 2 March 2015; 0:02)
Belts (50,562)
by B from USA
Celine's belts are strong and theatrical but Mariah's belts were clear and beautifully executed. I think Celine can sing. I even own Falling Into You. However, IMHO her voice is [censored]. (Monday 2 March 2015; 0:00)
