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Andrew (50,091) by Taylor from USA
Dear Andrew. After reading all your posts, I do not understand your contribution other than being passive aggressive towards what is going on with Mariah. With every bad story that emerges, you unfailingly spew forth comments that take on such a patronizing and condescending tone. It is more than Rien for you to have your opinions, but your opinions are not constructive criticisms. Even when you try to come across as so, you convey a very passive aggressive undertone that belittles Mariah and anyone who has come to support her. No one is so blind as to not be realistic, but you dismiss and diminish anyone who shows any hope and support for Mariah. You come across as an intelligent person, but your demeanor is anything but supportive and understanding. Your attempts to sound constructive are thinly veiled by arrogance and unwarranted authoritative nature. You and I do not know Mariah personally, therefore your characterizations of Mariah are invalidated, as well as mine. The difference between mine and yours, however, is that yours are unsubstantiated at the level at which they are made. Where were you when Mariah burned down the Beacon with her exquisite Christmas shows? Where were you when Mariah left Asian fans in rapture when she closed the remainder of her tour? Your absence during Mariah's shining moments only speak of your aggressive and vindictive nature, because you only come out when she slips. Everyone will fumble as we go through life, and while we are not expected to carry Mariah's of anyone's hand, we are expected to show compassion and understanding during those times. All for the simple and undeniable fact that Mariah has given us more hope, inspiration, and determination than the recent mishaps. I write these words not to fight, but to intervene because you are essentially bullying Mariah. You are kicking her when she is down. You belittle and demean those who show her support. This forum is open to all and every type of opinions. There is nothing wrong to talk about what is bad and ugly, but it is wrong to do so in the manner you have been doing. The only arrogance I've been witnessing is your superficial characterization of Mariah and those on here who believe in her. Be well.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 22:46)
#1's (50,090) by NHYTG from nyc
I agree the new #1's containing those 18 #1 songs and just one new track is good enough for now. That's should be a nice album for celebrating this 25th anniversary. And I would like this new track being produced by Timbaland, I know they have been in the studio together, I want to hear at least one song they have created.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 22:31)
Andrew (50,089) by Dove from USA
I only read one sentence of your post because your posts tend to hurt my spirit. But it's not delusion, it really seems like the media has nothing nice to say about her the last 6 years. I'm hopeful for a turnaround.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 22:16)
Re: Media, Mariah, and the truth (50,085) by B (50,088) by Dove from USA
I was thinking the same thing B, but Paul McCartney isn't a jerk. On top of that, I highly doubt he would want Rihanna to beat his record over Mariah Carey. Something is definitely amiss. She only needs two more yo tie, three to win. It's totally possible. Having the most #1's distinguishes you and makes people who have never heard of you at least want to try your music.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 22:12)
Paul McCartney (50,087) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
While I might agree that the media seems to be really after Mariah with so many people throwing constant shade at her, or that maybe just maybe insiders of the music industry do not want Mariah to break the record of The Beatles, I do not agree that Paul teamed up with Rihanna to beat MC. That's ridiculous. What good would it do for Paul if Rihanna does manage to beat MC's record? Mariah has 18, Beatles have 20. If Rihanna beats MC with a 19th #1, then wouldn't she immediately turn into a bigger threat than Mariah for the Beatles? I mean she will be just phone calls away from scoring 2 more #1's and beating their record. Paul probably just liked the idea of the concept Rihanna had and that's why they teamed up. It's because of this unusual out of the box experiment that the song blew up. I don't think The Beatles will prefer having someone like Rihanna break their record rather than MC (who can actually sing) doing it. And the reason why MC's performances are being scrutinized so much is because before the last couple of years, social media and technology was not so widely used and every moment could not be captured and shared with the whole word instantly. So every mistake made by any celeb is now worldwide news almost immediately. That's the only reason.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 18:23)
Like golden petals scattering (50,086) by Andrew from UK
"The media has 'turned' against Mariah." The bleatings of the lambs continue. Almost every message on this board about why things aren't going well for Mariah is about *other* people doing things *to* poor, perfect Mariah. This is delusion wrapped in a fantasy designed to profligate the idea that Mariah is a victim (cross fingers for new victim song). The media is going to vilify anyone caught out for faking, especially if it's in such a public way and especially if it's by someone who has acted like a stuck-up diva for ten years in re: attitude and tardiness. Why would they give her a break? She controls her own career, she has cast off anyone who could have provided direction over the past decade and she arrogantly thinks she can do this (which she has done several times) when she is on top as if she belongs there of her own accord, pity everyone who worked to get her there. The problem? It's not Nick, it's not Tommy, it's not Luis, it's not the media, it's not Ariana, it's not Nicki. It's Mariah. Her decisions, her attitude, her unprofessionalism, her arrogance, her amateurism. Stop blaming everyone else. NB I can predict the future, wait, hark, can you hear: "You're so mean. Why do you even come here. You're this pathetic label I'm recycling." It's the bloody truth. The media print what they think the public will buy. If it can buy Mariah being a joke it's because she acts like one. She not a star anymore. Grammy? They understandably didn't want the association.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 18:07)
Media, Mariah, and the truth (50,085) by B from USA
The truth is the media has turned against Mariah. Is it sexism or ageism? Or is it that they don't want her to best The Beatles? I'm not sure but something is amiss. Mariah Carey has never been the best live performer nor has she ever claimed to be but the media has spent the last six years constantly dwelling on whatever mistakes she makes. Seems like there is an agenda against Mariah. I'm not being delusional. How convenient is it that Paul McCartney, a Beatle, has teamed with Rhianna who is determined to best Mariah?
(Friday 13 February 2015; 17:10)
How I would love to see #1's album (50,084) by T from USA
Since this is a hits compilation album I would rather just see it being one disc with all the original 18 #1's. That leaves room on the CD for one more song. I'm fine with just one more song and I can wait for the bulk of new music with a new album in the future. Having all 18 on one disc would be a dream come true for fans and collectors alike. (PS. As an homage to the original release I would love to see a reverse order of the songs.)
Mariah Carey #1's
1. *new song*
2. Touch My Body
3. Don't Forget About Us
4. We Belong Together
5. Thank God I Found You
6. Heartbreaker
7. My All
8. Honey
9. Always Be My Baby
10. One Sweet Day
11. Fantasy Remix
12. Hero
13. Dreamlover
14. I'll Be There
15. Emotions
16. I Don't Want To Cry
17. Someday
18. Love Takes Time
19. Vision Of Love
(Friday 13 February 2015; 16:14)
MC cover (50,083) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Wow he covered some of my most favorite MC songs.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 14:46)
Quality (50,082) by B from USA
Memoirs was repeative and like E=MC2 the lyrics were too cliched and a little weak (Love Story). Mariah delievered musically with MIAMTEC. It was a fine return to form but the rollout was messy. With the right song/single Mariah can easily redeem herself. I haven't listened to Heavenly since the album was released but I don't think any of the notes are computerized or autotuned. Mariah Carey is an institution. If she wasn't capable of greatness her fans and the media wouldn't expect it from her. She needs to work with the producers that Migue l and Frank Ocean work with. Mark Ronson and Calvin Harris need to be called for her next singles. Rhianna and Katy aren't capable of greatness.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 14:45)
New sound (50,081) by George Golden from UK
I pray Mariah works with new producers this time. Someone like The Weekend would be amazing and maybe do some collabos with David Guetta or Calvin Harris. More big uptempo numbers would be great. Just saying.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 11:10)
#1's (50,080) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Really let's get real here OK? Instead of making some of us feel selfish for wanting MC to continue having more #1's than any other solo artists, you guys should know that MC apparently wants that too. In almost every interview she'll bring up the "you know what the record is, I'm not saying it but you know the charts records" and similar things where she basically tries to remind everyone that she has the most #1's. She did it in many interviews, I don't know how many of you have noticed. It was very apparent she was a little taken aback in one of the radio interviews last year when they didn't know what "statistic" she was talking about. It might have been the Breakfast Club interview or whatever and she tried to bring up her chart record of #1's but she couldn't say it directly and went about it indirectly and the host could not catch it and so she had to move on. She keeps trying to mention that she surpassed Elvis but always adds something like "I can't say it myself". With MC losing credibility over her voice lately and with her music bombing, her record of #1's is one of the most important things of her career she has left. You guys think she'll be happy to lose it? Especially to someone like Rihanna? You guys must really be blind to think MC doesn't care about keeping that record.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 10:39)
#1's (50,079) by Ethan from United States
Let's all move on from Jamaica and the Grammys. Can you guys believe that in 2 months we will hear new music from Mariah? And the newly updated #1's CD? I can't wait. We are so wrapped up in this whole thing while Mariah is locked up in her studio cooking up something for us. Haha. It might come out on April 28 (Tuesday) or May 5 (Tuesday) a day before her first show in Vegas. That's like so soon for something so unexpected. I really hope that it will be a great record.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 9:50)
Music, new horizons (50,078) by MC1989 from Spain
What I meant with "commercial/massive success vs. music quality" is that sometimes these two variables can get together, but many others don't. Just listen to nowadays pop hits. However, songs like "If it's over", "The wind", "Everything fades away", "Underneath the Stars", "I wish you knew" and many others throughout her inmense catalogue never hit a high position in the charts or weren't even released as singles, and are much better than "Touch my body" or DFAU. For me, the important thing is the quality of the sound, not the quantity of number ones. If she starts working on a new song thinking if it'll be her next #1 then she will probably cook that song using non-original ingredients, and it'll probably sound too mainstream or cliché. Or maybe not. Who knows, we'll see. But the most important for me is that she bring us something true, something she can sing live, with good melodies and lyrics (as she almost always does). If she moves closer to soul, that would be a dream come true, as I said.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 7:57)
Times changed (50,077) by May from Denmark
Pitifully people care more about their idols having number ones and reaching top charts and selling out the most rather than quality. Any place you go you can read how teens fight against each other in a pit over which of their artists has done the "most". And to be honest, a lot of lambs don't stay back when defending Mariah it is usual to see her millions of albums, records and number ones. I always cared about quality, and sound quality (when the artist I like is working for a big label) has been top of my list. Mariah Carey "Rainbow" era sound quality in her studio music diminished and I recall it very well, it didn't have the same depth as when she was in Columbia but with her amazing voice and the great songwriting I could care less. The music quality was still the same and it's still. But I also feel that Mariah many times has played it safe when it comes to music, apart from adding rap/hip hop to her repertoire and in the mid 2000s trying out some 70s vibe her music hasn't changed too much. The only two songs that I would say shocked me when came out were "Touch my body" and "Obsessed", they seemed so different from anything she has done, crazy fun I must say.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 7:55)
MC1989 Because Kylie never had (50,076) by May from Denmark
She has never dissed Mariah, not even talked about her in a personal level or musical level. There is only a Q&A from an interview done in Japan in 1997 where after the round of personal questions she had to do a "ping pong" (answer with Love or Hate when listen to the word). When she was told "Mariah Carey" she chose "hate" after giving a thought. I'm pretty sure she choose it thinking musically, as Mariah Carey in that time used to do music that Kylie wasn't much into and didn't appeal her. I like Kylie Minogue a lot, she has been rowing the boat hard also since she was a child and her and Mariah are totally different. The singer is not one to diss people or trash talk, she is neither the scandalous type, in fact, the biggest "diss" she could ever say about another artist is about not having the courage that Lady Gaga has to dress up in her wacky way in the street, and then, that's an opinion not even a diss. Here is the video, as you can see, it is not a big deal. People just like to make a big deal out of it.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 7:48)
Ardis (50,074) by MC1989 from Spain
I totally agree with you, especially I share what you say about the real instruments-less computer sound, and less struggeling for high notes. Instead I woud preffer to hear simple ballads with catchy and filling piano chords (for instance: like Sam Smith's "I'm not the only one" chords). I would also love to hear her coming close to a kind of urban soul or pop soul using more powerful basses (do you say it like that in English? not bass the instrument, but the line of a song) like for instance something similar to Amy Winehouse's "You know I'm no good" or Adele's "Rolling in the deep", songs that became worldwide hits, not just a #1 on the Billboard Chart (I don't know if they did in fact). I also would like Mariah to stop pretending to fill some songs with high and impossible-to-sing-live high notes or runs. (The perfect example is "Heavenly", the high notes and vocal runs sound so robotic and seem unnatural or overprocessed by a computer.) I need to hear something that moves me inside, rather than some high notes and a very high and difficult part towards the end of a song which she predictably will lip synch live. She doesn't need to prove that she's one of the best voices. We all know that, maybe she should try to prove that ofently on stage as a live performer (like that VOL in Jamaica) and not in the studio.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 7:00)
Collaboration (50,073) by Matthew from USA
I think jaker20 hit the nail on the head. Mariah has always been loyal to her producers. Whether it was Walter A back in the day or Jermaine Dupri for the second half of her career. She kind of finds a producer she likes and sticks with them. Then she might reach out to others for a couple of tracks. I'm not sure what her relationship with JD is right now, but it can be assumed that he might not be as heavily involved in the next album. This might be a good thing. #Beautiful is the best single she has released recently, and that was a collab with Happy Perez and Miguel. She needs to do some more of that. She tried to do this with The Dream for Memoirs but it didn't quite work out, so she ran back to Dupri. Hopefully LA Reid can hook her up with someone good. Timbaland recently gave her praise for her last album and I don't think they've worked before so that might be interesting. He's been behind Aalyah and Justin Timberlake's R&B success so he might be able to tweak Mimi while staying true to the R&B that she loves. It would probably be too much to expect her to jump into country or any other genre. It would be pretty cool, but Mimi is pretty much an R&B girl at heart.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 4:35)
The importance of #1's (50,072) by Marissa from USA
The only reason I want MC to snag more #1's is because I don't want someone with lesser talent eclipsing her in numbers. If a mediocre singer like Rihanna surpasses her record, the gp is really going to pay MC's accomplishments dust. With the bad publicity that she's been getting lately, those numbers are about the only defense we have when people start talking s*** about her. Rihanna knows how to make a hot song, but MC's songs are meaningful. They are the soundtracks to people's lives. Although they're hot, songs like Umbrella and SOS pale in comparison to impactful songs like Hero, One Sweet Day or My All. I don't want MC to be another case of greatness eclipsed by popularity.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 4:16)
Are #1's really that important? (50,071) by Ardis Logic from Earth
Personally I would say the quality of the music is more important to me than scoring another #1. I enjoyed certain songs off MIAM, but there are also a few songs that are really not that great. By not that great, I am referring to the sound quality, and how she invites certain rappers to just say whatever they want on the album. That is really getting old. (Actually that has been annoying me since the Glitter album.) Don't get me wrong, some of her collaborations with rap artist have been really good. Then there are those songs that just make me roll my eyes. I would love to have a whole album that flows together. Better quality music, like "real" instruments, instead of all this computer generated sound. Take it back to the days of the Motown "classic" R&B sound. And above all, don't struggle to hit notes that you don't think you will be able to perform live. If you can't hit the notes anymore fine. Your real fans will still love you no matter what.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 1:57)
Patti Labelle (50,070) by Bill from the UK
Hi Amber, Patti was not Mariah's godmother from birth. This happened fairly recently, within the last ten years I believe. I'm not sure what happened in Mariah's personal life, but I imagine she would have got baptised (again?) and at that point would have asked Patti to be her Godmother. Patti is very spiritual like Mariah, I love her gospel stuff.
(Friday 13 February 2015; 0:23)
Mariah needs to collaborate (50,069) by jaker20 from US
It's not about having another no. 1. It's about growing as an artist. And everyone even the greats needs to grow. When they hit their peak, they have nowhere to go but down. But if you climb a different mountain then you have a new peak to climb. MC needs to collab to show she is a team player. Rihanna does not have MC's vocal abilities and songwriting genius. But Rihanna works well with music peers. Like any other professions, sometimes working well with others wins over talent. Talent can only go too far. Your peers up your game and bring you to another level. During her 90s peak, she's fearless with collabing. But now I think MC is a little scared of teaming with major artists. Fear comes with age and insecurity. I mean how can she team with Lady Gaga or Madonna, MC can't dance. How can MC team with Maroon 5? But a true artist finds a way to make things work. MC is so far from over. It is all up to her. How about a duet with Sam Hunt or Luke Bryan to gain country fans. She has to change gears, the 90s pop overstayed its welcome. There's so many creative and musical avenues she can explore. It's not always about another number but just letting creative juices flow. She can only sing VOL so many times. And for the most part she sings it so bad it just reminds comparison to her past glory she can't reach as high. Climb new mountains.
(Thursday 12 February 2015; 23:44)
Amber C / Mimi L. (50,068) by Jay from USA
Mariah's mom was married when Mariah first came out. Her stepfather was the one that sued early in her career because he claimed he wanted to make a doll based on Mariah and she agreed to it at first because she thought he was joking. But when he was seriosuly wanting to do it, she declined. I believe also, he claimed to have paid dental bills that Mariah never paid back before she was famous. I don't know if he had connections with anyone in the industry. I think her brother's connection was who hooked Mariah up with Ben Margulies. I think the reason why Mariah had a hard time to get a deal at first was because no one wanted another Whitney, except Tommy had thought Mariah would be perfect for Columbia to have someone to rival Whitney. Which makes me wonder what plans Warner Brothers had for Mariah before she signed with Columbia.
(Thursday 12 February 2015; 23:42)
Music quality vs. commercial success (50,067) by MC1989 from Spain
I don't care that much about scoring a number one. I would like to see Mariah going back to more soul roots, a change of style close to Amy Winehouse or Adele in terms of arrangements.
(Thursday 12 February 2015; 23:30)
Kylie on Mariah (50,066) by MC1989 from Spain
I didn't know that Kylie Minogue dissed Mariah.
(Thursday 12 February 2015; 23:03)

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