At the end of the day (49,644)
by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
Look. Mariah doesn't care what people think at this point. She should know that her issues have now hit mainstream. I have understood her to be a recluse with personal issues. Taking 10 years to talk about a divorce is personal preference. It is a direct insult to anyone to say they are having mental breakdowns and career upsets to their face, fan or not fan. I am not saying to not criticize at all but doing it 265/7 or 365/7 is by far too much. It needs to decrease. Like you all are mad now however, how will you feel if she cancels everything planned and retires. We wait enough already for new music between albums. Imagine waiting 10-15 years for new music because her last support system (fans) always feel the need to jump on her and recluse her more. The only thing that she probably cares about is her immediate impact on just her name only. That worked in 2005 but not now. So despite those saying or implying earlier, I am not delusional nor am I an enabler. I do not believe she has done well lately but you will never see me bash or criticize because she has too many people doing that on a daily basis including her fans. I do like to think that she knows her problems and doesn't need this backlash to this extent. (Monday 2 February 2015; 20:34)
Lip sync (49,643)
by Josue Almodovar a.k.a. Lamby Joe from USA
Obviously someone is trying to sabotage her career again. Haters will hate. (Monday 2 February 2015; 20:28)
25 year veteran (49,642)
by Maurice from USA
When I watch Mariah's recent concert in Jamaica, I see the horrible opening but I also see a woman who has been In this business for 25 years making it work. I agree with everyone the opening was really bad. But what's Mariah supposed to do when the backing track is been played to the audience and the track playing in her ear is not in sync and lastly her mic doesn't work? Mariah made it happen. She keeps looking back waiting for help or an answer or just wtf was going on. She came to Jamaica to slay. She didn't want her concert to be like this. Nonetheless Mariah slayed VOL and many other songs. She did sing live but we all know that people don't care about Mariah unless it is negative press. People really are not on her side and want to see her fail Mariah you have an impossible task ahead of you. No matter how good you do you won't get credit for it. You have to make yourself younger, bring back your old voice, never make a mistake and give us vocal perfection all the time. That's impossible. No matter how many records you set or break, people are over you and want to see you gone. They never wanted to see you recover from Glitter, but you did. I believe you will again but don't expect to get any credit for it. (Monday 2 February 2015; 19:48)
Marissa / I thought you had gotten the memo (49,640)
by Edward from USA
Marissa, you last post was spot on. You need to keep in mind that for some people here dismissing other fan's opinions seem to grant them special fan status. I'm so happy we don't have somebody like that moderating this messageboard because it were so, it would've imploded a long time ago. A weird thing I have noticed on this board is that those on positiveness-autopilot usually fade away in time. In 17 years I have seen them come and go like Mariah changes her nannies. It reminds a dictatorship, where people are not allowed to question, because if you do, you're dead or punished. (Monday 2 February 2015; 19:23)
One Sweet Day (Acapella) (49,639)
by Rón from United Kingdom
Hey, been a while since I posted but just found this alternate version of One Sweet Day, which is acapella and has a new introduction. I really enjoyed it. (Monday 2 February 2015; 18:33)
Negative press (49,638)
by Ethan from United States
Whether or not we care about the recent incident but it has caused negative press for her and her upcoming show. Here's another article about her trouble vocals from Billboard. To many of us, we don't care much and it's not because we are loyal fans but we know she will pull it through. However, most people will buy into and affect her Vegas residency. I do believe that there will be more promotion and hype when the Vegas residency comes near. Even I'm skeptical myself. I didn't want to go to her first show in Vegas and I chose to attend the last show in May because I think it will polished by then. Yes I'm a bit in doubt but I support her and I know it will be great. It's up to Mariah and her team to make it work since it's her residency and it's under their control. We need an amazing stage, props, lighting, and dancers and everything else. It's Vegas and it's not mediocre. And please get exclusively made Versace or Cavalli concert outfits. (Monday 2 February 2015; 18:30)
Badr / Gilles / Elena (49,637)
by Dove from USA
(49,607) by Badr. It's not just "another compilation", it's a reissue. (49, 11) by Gilles. I hope you're right and a part of me really wants to believe that's the case. Documentary (49,615) by Elena. I agree that would help a ton. Britney's: For The Record and the E special she got before her residency really helped her IMO. And there hasn't been a good Mariah special in a while. (Monday 2 February 2015; 18:27)
Las Vegas will be great (49,635)
by Kyle from USA
Mariah will have no issues in Las Vegas. It's a much more controlled environment with state of the art sound engineering. I saw Celine three years ago there and I remember thinking how much better she sounded live then what we hear on the radio. The venue will only enhance Mariah's voice. I'm going July 11 and I know it's going to be superb. (Monday 2 February 2015; 18:26)
Jamaica (49,634)
by Lee TS from USA
So much has been said already. I hope MC can recover from this. Whatever happen to her left ear ring? Did she and her stylist not notice she was only wearing one ear ring during the whole show? I hope she didn't lose that sucker, it looked beautiful on Ellen. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:58)
Baby (49,633)
by Marissa from USA
If you don't want to acknowledge the negativity then great, but why do you hardly ever give your opinion without dismissing us as fans? You make it seem like you have to be on positivity autopilot in order to be a fan. That's not even human nature. We experience both positive and negative emotions towards people. The same people who are dissatisfied with Jamaica now still acknowledge when she looks fab, seems happy, looks like she's putting in effort, etc. Why is it a crime to have commentary not only when it's positive, but when it's negative too? (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:53)
Shelly / enablers (49,632)
by Edward from USA
Shelly, you gave excellent pointers to Mariah on your last post. The thing about disrupting the flow of ballad to talk or ask the audience to fill in the blank is something she has been doing too often. The thing with the enablers around Mariah and on this board is that they could see Mariah helplessly drowning and they wouldn't even call 911 just because they think "there's nothing wrong with Mariah drowning every once in a while". They act like mommy and daddy are better parents when they allow their kids to do whatever they want. They like to brag when Mariah gets it right, but they don't contribute with constructive criticism for this outcome, but then they have the audacity to take credit for it. This is a wake-up call for Mariah, I hope she sees it as such. It is better this happened in Jamaica and not in Vegas. It's not a matter of getting it right here and there, it is a matter of getting it consistent even when it might not be perfect. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:51)
Lightening pon de mood (49,631)
by Luke from United Kingdom
So I don't mean to divert from the lip-sync subject much but I just stumbled across this little gem. She should totally do something like this again, like another unplugged. No gimmicks. Just her voice and a small audience. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:35)
I just can't anymore (49,630)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
I've always been very hopeful of the voice bouncing back like it did during the beginning of the Mimi era and then again during the Merry Christmas II You era, but recently she's been slipping too far into the darkness with these bad performances. The Jamaica performance almost seemed intentional, like she gets something out of the bad press and people bashing her bad lip syncing. I really pray that whatever is causing this train wreck comes to a complete halt. Mariah is my favorite voice, artist, and (to be completely transparent right now) person on the planet. So these type of moments are always painful for me. I always want nothing, but the best for her. At this point all I want is for Mariah to have one more undeniably great completely live performance in a great national treasure esque way (ie social media buzz) then she can bow out gracefully and just focus on other things in life. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:25)
Fair game (49,629)
by Gilbert from USA
I think it's okay to have a disagreement or concern about attending the Las Vegas shows. It's not fair to fans who work hard and purchase tickets to see her show and possibly receive a half ass performance. I haven't had any problems with concerts I've gone to in the past. The only thing I can think of is these are possibly stunts (which aren't improving her status, it just makes it seem like she is going down hill). I'm still looking forward to going to see her on 5/13 but I really hope my experience remains the same as it's always been. (Monday 2 February 2015; 17:23)
How do you solve a problem like Mariah? (49,628)
by Paul from Usa
Mariah. You'll ABMB, but you need some guidance and direction. I saw her this Christmas at one of the AIWFCIY concerts, and she renewed my love for her with her performance. She came out on stage (just after her lousy Rockefeller Center tree lighting stint) and proved everyone wrong. That she could sing, perform and the voice was still there. These lazy lip syncing appearances are hard to watch. It almost seems she doesn't know what to do on stage. What I don't understand about Mariah is why she doesn't put her older songs to rest, and start writing songs that cater to her new voice. Madonna has evolved. Infact she hates singing her older songs. Do you think Mariah watches her appearances? And critiques herself? I don't think she does. I also think she reins all the power in her career and it's clear she needs a helping hand. Poor Mariah. I want what's best for her. I want her to have a healthy and happy life and career. Perhaps she should take a break and concentrate on spending time with her children. Enjoy life. Take a long vacation. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:48)
Who cares? (49,627)
by B from USA
I don't and I'm so sick of these same complaints every single time she opens her mouth. Her performance at Jamaica Jazz isn't going to stop me from going to Las Vegas to see her. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:47)
Why do we play this game? / everybody loves Mariah (49,626)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
Not everybody loves Mariah, shocking I know. Some people actually even hate her with a passion. So it's not like you're alone when you bash her. Isn't that the very point you're making anyway, that no one enjoys her as an artist anymore and you're just keeping it real? Tommy Mottola claims he's Mariah's biggest fan. I'm sure he's crazy enough to still believe it because, for all intents and purposes, at one point he was her #1 champion. And yet we all know how methodically he went about trying to destroy Mariah, to the point where even Sony had to let him go once he personally bullied one of their top selling artists of all time to leave the company. Guess who else is always so adamant about his love for Mariah? Nick Cannon, that's who. You'd never know he cheated on her, deliberately embarrassed her in the media or favorites anti-Mariah tweets. So, saying you're a fan of Mariah Carey since 1901 means nothing. MC is always treating her fans like gold, never takes them for granted or forgets to thank and give back to her lambs. She's always doing things to show appreciation for her fans. Do you think she did the Jazz and Blues Festival to line her pockets? No, that was for her Jamaican fans that have never seen her in concert. What have you done for her lately? This resting on your laurels bullshit has got to go. Shout out to Nick and Tommy's proxies. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:45)
Looking In (49,625)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
"You look at me and see the girl Who lives inside the golden world But don't believe That's all there is to see You'll never know the real me
She smiles through a thousand tears And harbors adolescent fears She dreams of all That she can never be She wades in insecurity, yeah And hides herself inside of me
Don't say, "She takes it all for granted" I'm well aware of all I have Don't think that I am disenchanted Please understand
It seems as though I've always been Somebody outside looking in Well, here I am for all of them to bleed But they can't take my heart from me And they can't bring me to my knees They'll never know the real me"
Mariah Carey - Looking In (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:38)
Vegas suggestions (49,624)
by Dove from USA
I still think Vegas is a good idea. I would rather she be busy, working, and around people a few times a week, over being home alone thinking too much. Judging from those clips, she still has her voice. My suggestions: 1) Mariah, if you think you may have a problem, get help. There is no shame in being imperfect. There is a chance that people may find out, and it could be embarrassing for you, but ultimately it will humanize you and make people love you even more. It's worth the risk. 2) Let go of some control and let other talented professionals worry about things such as costumes, the set, etc 3) Focus on your voice, the music, and performing. Mix up the arrangements to make them come alive for you again. If you're bored, we will be too. I want to hear you singing the whole song and getting lost in it, not talking in the middle of the song, or having the audience sing a big part. I love to hear what you have to say but wait until before or after songs, when you talk mid song it snaps the listener out of the nostalgic zone they want to get lost in. 4) If you're going to lip sync some songs, practice lip synching and record a new vocal track with your current voice. We recognize how your voice sounded during different eras and it takes away some of the magic. Or better yet, change the arrangements to where it feels comfortable to you and sing your songs live. All these things I'm saying are in love because I believe in you and I want to see succeeding and on top again. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:37)
Mariah's lip-sync rama continues (49,623)
by ADAM from USA
TMZ is receiving a lot of traction with the latest Mariah story in Jamaica. I hope this exposure gains more coverage not because I'm a hater but because it inspires change in people. Change in what the audience expects from singers when put up hard earned money to see someone "sing" to change (hopefully) in Mariah to sing in her "real" voice and stop with the long-time sham of "ear-piece" drama. While we may never know the real reason why Mariah is lying to the public, we can certainly change the way we "accept" what is right vs wrong. The world will be watching what happens in Las Vegas and I unfortunetly am happy I did not buy tickets to see her perform there. I saw her at Beacon and thought she was wonderful, however seeing the last few performances these past few months have me concerned that what I saw at Beacon was a mirage. I love Mariah's music but I will no longer blindly support anything she does. I work very hard for my money and I don't think it's right to take it away from me to put on a sham of a show. I knew Mariah as a singer and not some one-trick of a singer I used to know that pretends to sing-along. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:19)
A thank you to all the fans on MCArchives (49,622)
by ADAM from USA
I'd like to say it's been an exciting last few days on this board with the nice diversity of opinions between fans about MC's performances as of late. While we may not all see eye to eye on everything (which is fine and encouraged), I enjoy the healthy debate about how we feel about a variety of topics concerning MC. The feedback on this board has been great because at times I've shifted my opinion on topics such as, as fans do we we have to right to have high expectations of MC, to is it fraudulent and acceptable to support MC if she lip syncs for shows when she's a singer by trade, all the way to, do we as fans have support inferior music by Mariah if we don't think its worthy (but support it in name because we follow her)? These topics are interesting to me and I think that just because we are all admirers of MC we should not be one-dimensional and blind to any fallacies or injustices that may arise on the part of MC when she falters. In conclusion, I'm happy this board exists as a platform for fans to express the love and frustrations about the great Mariah Carey. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:07)
Ear piece (49,621)
by Gilbert from USA
When I was younger, I don't remember her ever using an ear piece. Does anyone remember how the ear piece even came about? (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:06)
I'm lamb and I'm proud (49,620)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
It's funny how anyone is allowed to post slanderous things about Mariah under the guise of fandom but random artists get defended without ever being attacked. Don't get me wrong, defending people you love is never wrong. So I don't really mind it, it's just a daily irony on this particular site. But it's all good because I'll be here to rub it in when Mariah shines, which let's be honest, is a guarantee at this point. I'll be quoting all your ill wishes right back to you when the time comes. No one could pay me to relinquish the pleasure of watching you dig your own graves. I hope you're smart enough to have several "outlets" to express your toxicity. Jessie, it's the thought that counts, us real lambs have already made it a point to see all the available clips from Jamaica. It's very arbitrary whose videos get posted or even linked. I suggest you share those videos on Twitter, FB, etc. where they will be appreciated. Hashtag #Lambily #L4L. Shootout to Travon. (Monday 2 February 2015; 16:06)
Does Mariah have a bruise and black eye? (49,619)
by Lee Smith from UK
If you look at the article on this site entitled "Mariah Carey shows her cleavage in revealing dress" and look at the second image and zoom in it appears she has a bruise under her lip that they have tried to cover with make up. Underneath her right eye is also swollen. This is very strange. Did anybody else notice that? (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:28)
Earpiece problems (49,618)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
As a fan since 1995, I do observed that since 2005 Mariah keeps on having earpiece problem during her live performance. I list down all those live performances where she's having those earpiece drama. 1. American Music Awards 2005 2. Good Morning America 2008 3. Live in Morocco 2012 4. Live in Australia 2013 5. Good Morning America 2013 6. Live at Rockefeller Center 2014 7. Live at Beacon Theatre 2014 8. Live in Jamaica 2015 Mariah and her team needs to look at this earpiece problem as serious and damaging. I still hope her Vegas stint would be free from all this earpiece drama. (Monday 2 February 2015; 15:27)
