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Chill down people (49,736) by juan from Dubai Chill down, that Jamaican gig was a small gig. Whatever happens, Vegas will be ok to great, just like any other of her concerts. Have a look at this and promote. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 10:39)

Las Vegas here we come (49,735) by jaker20 from US I knew this was gonna happen, some of you should read up my posts when Vegas was announced. She can't do it. With what we've seen, it's just not physically possible to turn back time. What she needs to do is change her catalog, or stop that Vegas residency completely or she will completely lose what is remaining of her voice once and for all. This Vegas deal with related to her emotional turmoil, to forget her heartbreak. She is listening to yes people behind her. This is not the right way to go. Sure, accuse me for acting like I know MC. But you don't know her either. All we know is that this is not working. Her voice is too fragile. Vegas will be her end. Instead, she should concentrate on recording new material where she is not belting. Will that cost her fans? Most definitely it will. Because fans just want her to belt until her voice is gone. But, she will gain new ones. And at least she will be able to continue to work, because at the rate she's going, the end of her voice and career is fast approaching into one of the most massive career embarrassments of all time. This is why some fans call for her retirement because her decline is so painful to watch. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 7:17)

Kind and soft retirement advice (49,734) by jaker20 from US This retirement topic has been brought up long before this - yet another - lip-syncing embarrassment. I've said it before and I'll say it again: MC should stop singing her oldies she can't sing live. She has a big catalog where she doesn't have to belt. Will people recognize the songs? No, maybe not. But that is a better alternative than constantly lipping and backtracking. Because right now, she herself has brought her lip synching into public knowledge. Before, it was just fans who notice it. Now it's practically on the mainstream, not just now, but repeatedly, over and over she expose herself to embarrassment. Then she slays live like the Christmas concert but nobody notice, because her low is so low and embarrassing, no one cares anymore if she's good when she's good. MC doesn't need to retire, she just needs to chance her catalog. People won't recognize the songs, but they will at least appreciate her, she's not destroying her legacy and she's not embarassing herself. Enough is enough with WTB, VOL and those belt songs we all know she's lipping. Her ego can't admit she can't sing them anymore. She's scared no one will sing along to her unknown songs. But that's not true. People will love her more for trying. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 7:09)

Negativity? (49,733) by Jay from USA I've been thinking about all this going on with Mariah. It doesn't make sense that she is acting aloof with this nonsense. Some people are claiming we are watching her start to have a new breakdown. But even that doesn't make sense. Last time, and I'm old enough to remember as it happened, she left the messages, Louise would rip the microphone from her hands as she gave an interview. However now it's like everything she does is normal to her. "Let me stand here and not love my lips", "let me walk off the stage as I'm singing", "let me not comment on any of this and sign a contract to do Vegas". I wonder if all this just a ploy for her to come out with her first album with Sony and bam, second comeback. Maybe I'm being naive. But it just doesn't make sense that no one in her family has done anything to snap her out of her funk. Her mom, Shawn, or even her brother. All this negative media might be intentional so when the "comeback" starts, it'll be "look, she's been down in the dumps and came back". In all seriousness, I hope she's okay. I'm not here to impose a retirement on her it whatever. She has enough negative people, fans, non fans, media. If I'm reading too much into this (I have no PR experience, so idk) but I hope she's good. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 5:59)

Everyone lip sings (49,732) by lil star from untied states I cant understand why Mimi is the only singer that gets huge backlash from a performance. Every current singer lip sings in shows unfortunately Mimi is trying to fit in the the current industry. Even Beyonce always lip sings. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 4:35)

It's not about perfection (49,731) by Edward from USA Nobody is expecting perfection from Mariah, those 90's days are gone. People want Mariah to be the professional we all know she can be. If there's something going wrong with a track, stop it, joke about it, sort it out, and start again, she's done that before, and the audience laughed if off with her. Mariah looked as if she was either drunk or high on stage, and walking off stage leaving a recording behind is unacceptable no matter how many divorces she's going through. If she wasn't feeling well, she shouldn't have taken the gig, as simple as that. Some people think that fans alone will go to Vegas, when in reality most of the tickets will be bought by the GP, and no casual listener is going to spend their good money to see Mariah spin around with a very bad case of miming just because she's Mariah Carey and she entitled to it. She shouldn't retire, she's still young, she just need to (all caps) "get it together". Once you fall, the only option is to get up. I don't think she could fall any lower. My heart is broken. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 3:04)

Done (49,730) by Marissa from USA "There is no mistaking my posts for anti-lamb or you would have been quoting me instead of trying to rewrite my posts like we all don't have eyes and fingers to scroll with." So I quote you multiple times and it's still an issue. At this point it doesn't matter if I write a dissertation on your posts, which I'm sure would be your next request. Nothing will be resolved. No one on any online messageboard is worth all of that effort. Case dismissed. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 2:36)

Honesty (49,729) by Jon from Netherlands About the night in Tokyo when she appeared to not know the lyrics to WBT is it so bad to stop the show and be honest and say: I'm going through a really hard time and I can't do this song? Everybody would understand and relate. Like this it feels like she's having mental issues. Be honest. Cry your heart out if you want on stage. Don't go on without acknowledging the problem, that is just awful. The headline would be: Mariah carey is heart broken and can't finish song. That is actually completely acceptable. Take 5, come back, talk with the audience and do other song. Something different btw. At this point one of Mariah's biggest problems is her inflexibility. She goes to a jazz festival and does the same old songs. And no it's no ok to accept dirty money and no she's no having a pre-breakdown. It's a full blown meltdown. It's just very hidden because she doesn't show up in public but these glimpses we have are enough to let us now something is extremely wrong. There is nothing wrong with showing love for her but please guys don't be enablers: tell her to stay home. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 2:15)

Nope Kelly Price was still wrong for that (49,728) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Respect her for what? Throwing stones and hiding her hands? Publicly trying to tear down the women who virtually gave her a career? If she was "keeping it" so "real", she would've told Mariah that to her face, or better yet reached out to her to try to help her or pray for her situation. I don't respect people that try to kick you when you're down. Grant it MC has been in a mess of a tailspin lately, but if someone is your real friend that has regards for you as a person/peer in the business, they wouldn't use social media to bash you publicly. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 2:12)

Re: Nina, divorce (49,727) by Ardis Logic from Earth It really is hard to say what happened. Since there is a confidentiality agreement between Nick and Mariah, neither one of them can say anything about it unless they want to pay a huge fine (I believe it's $250, 00 for Nick and $500,000 for Mariah). Who came up with that crazy ass agreement is what I want to know. I wonder if they will be talking about it after the divorce is final or if the agreement is forever. Usually Mariah talks through her music but sometimes it's hard to know who she is talking about. I really have a feeling that Nick never loved her, he was just using her to get more famous. He "love bombed" her in the beginning (narcissist ) acting like Prince Charming. Then once he was in and they had "dem babies" everything started to change. Just listen to "Camouflage" that is the whole story right there, or at least that what it seems like. We will never know really until MC talks about it herself. We can only speculate and assume. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 2:04)

Retirement (49,726) by Jon from Netherlands Yes, please. Reason? The "Jazz organizer mum on Mariah" article. A lot of us here are blind. I'm not. Not anymore. There is no chance of going out with a bang. It's dead. Just leave the stage. We all love her too much and I sincerely don't want to see her go on like this. Edith Piaf ended like this but at least she had health issues. What people here don't get is that this can get much much worse. Maybe Mariah is not as strong as she used to be. Losing the love of your life must be extremely painful and maybe she can't come back from that (at least not anytime soon). Do we really want her to continue going down? We're watching a runner trip, fall, have everyone step on him and we are going to cheer him to go on? Stop immediatly and get the help you need. I really wish I could do something to help her but I can't. Reminds me of the Whitney interview when she said she went to a therapist for celebreties and people that go through that type of pressure. Mariah needs the same. And like Whitney just stay home in your pijamas, wait for the kids to come back from school and live a easy live. Maybe in 5 years we'll se you again. We'll miss you but it will be better than this. To those who still believe: what else does it take? Doesn't it break your heart? Telling her to continue it's not being nice, it's kind of sadistic. She's getting to the point that even her haters are gonna start feeling sorry for her. When that point comes she will have reduced herself to a joke. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 2:00)

Stressed to the max / have some empathy for MC (49,725) by Ardis Logic from Earth Just imagine if you had to get up in front of thousands of people and are expected to sing difficult songs perfectly every time. On top of that your significant other, who you are still madly in love with, filed for divorce, and is trying to steal half your worth. On top of being heartbroken, you are worried about being a single parent to twins. You are being sued by ex nannies. Your sister and others are constantly trying to get money out of you, and that is only the things we know about. That is a lot to handle. Now she has to worry about her voice going out or having vocal problems. That is truly too much stress. We really need to have some empathy for Ms. Mariah. She is having a very hard time right now. Let's try to be positive and supportive to her. That is the best thing we can do really. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 1:48)

Nina (49,724) by Nick from USA I am pretty sure it was before May because of songs like Thirsty, You Don't Know What To Do, etc. I honestly think Nick cheated on her, because it did end out of nowhere and him cheating on her makes the most sense. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 1:21)

Understanding Mariah (49,723) by Taylor from USA The ugliest part of the current situation is the attack on Mariah that comes from not only non-fans but also those who claim to be lambs. It's like Mariah accidentally spilled a drop of blood and the sharks all swarm around her. The issue with Mariah aside, because we do not know with utmost certainty, the most disappointing part is the society at large who feels they have right to criticize and attack a woman on her off moments. Imagine living your life in the public eye and have all the pressure in the world to be absolutely perfect at every moment. Society have this impossible expectation projected on public figures and we forget that every one is human. And humans will falter because we are not machines. Do we all recall how exhausted and overworked Mariah was when the Glitter debacle happened? Sure, we can tell her to rest up and stay home, but everyone deals with emotional turmoil differently. Mariah is brave enough to put herself out there everyday, even when she is not at her best. We all strive to carry on, so why don't we empathize with the woman who gave us inspiration such as Hero? It's really sad how quickly we can abandon someone when they can seem for even a brief moment that they no longer serve us well. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 1:10)

That's my brand / The Greatest Hits (49,722) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End So now you're composing lists of my disjointed quotes? If you're gonna quite me then do it right, in context. What you did is the equivalence of someone posting lyric lines from different songs and even albums ignoring any underlying textures or themes. It's as arbitrary as it gets. Pick an entire post to pick apart, one at a time. Even professional Mariah Carey critics generally stick to reviewing one body of work at a time. It's not like there aren't plenty of my posts to choose from. I've been clear since before post #1, in my profile, That if you come for Mimi, you come for me. I cut for Mariah and that's never gonna change. A wise woman once said: When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time. I told you all several times already, what more do you want? And you don't have to tell me twice who you are. I heard you the first time. (Wednesday 4 February 2015; 0:04)

Mariah needs love and understanding (49,721) by Gilbert from USA Here is the thing. I spent a couple of hours thinking about this and writing and re-writing what I'm feeling but to be honest I'm already a bit irked with Mariah. I don't think she needs love and understanding. She is a big girl and she needs to put her big girl panties on and stop making a mockery of herself. She needs someone who is going to sit her down and say look, this is what you need to do and this is what you need to stop doing. It's called tough love, giving her too much say is also not always good. I remember back on performances I used to see where she would just lay on a couch playing with her hair and singing and I thought that looks so tacky and it just looked like she was there to be glorified in her beauty. I adore Mariah I really do but come on she really needs someone to sit her down and get her the help she needs because she is just all over the place. She is making that woman I feel in love with back in 95 look like a joke. She worked to hard to go out as a joke. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 23:05)

A possible pre-breakdown? (49,720) by TJ from Norway Maybe we all are watching a pre-breakdown, but are too obsessed with this and that to realize what's going on? When I first saw the clip of Fantasy, I thought it was nice. Yes, it was pre-recorded, but she sang something else with her vocals. Maybe that was what she intended? God knows. At the end of the day, no one died. It seemed like people had a good time at the concert. I wish her well, and hope she makes all the right choices for her future. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 23:01)

Abraham (49,719) by Nina from USA Yes, I really want to know why Mariah and Nick are divorcing. I was really happy for her finally having the stability she wanted. What went wrong so quickly? They were on the cover of Ebony last February and then by May it appeared to be over. Maybe what happened will help explain why Mariah is so out of sorts. She talked about what happened with Tommy so why isn't she saying anything about Nick? (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 22:42)

For those who believe she should retire (49,718) by Benjamin Fisher from United States You have a lot of nerve. Music is her passion, and it is also what she does for a living. I don't like the lip-syncing either, but I do believe that she has a good reason for doing it. The choices are probably: (1) Retire and forget music. (2) Have risky surgery on her nodules and risk losing her voice. (3) Soldier on and lip-sync some songs in concert. (4) Don't lip-sync and have it sound horrible/risk damaging her voice more (we all know how Whitney sounded before she passed). None of those are good choices for her. The suggestion that she retire is just plain cruel. Mariah has been under scrutiny since the day she hit the scene. First it was "she's copying Whitney" and "she's a white girl who sings 'black'." Then it was "she's trying too hard", "she dresses like a slut", "she's gaining weight", "her voice doesn't sound like it used to", "her music is too ghetto". She can't do a damn thing without somehow risking her credibility/worthiness as an artist. I think sometimes fans forget that this is a human being. Mariah ain't never claimed to be perfect. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 22:35)

MC (49,717) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The only reason (or excuse) Mariah had for not putting up a huge show or performance on stage was that she is a singer and she is "The Voice" and that her singing talent is enough, she doesn't need gimmicks and dance routines to put on a show. In an industry where visual performance is almost as important if not more than a person's ability to sing, people made an exception for Mariah because, wow the woman has some fabulous pipes. But now sadly that excuse won't work. All Mariah has to do is stand on stage and sing, but nowadays she doesn't even bother doing that. Isn't that disrespecting the fans who come to see her, who spend their heard earned money to hear their favorite song being sung to them live by her? I get it that maybe she can't sing as well as she used to and that's fine, so just put in an effort and change up the arrangements so that you can actually sing along. Not only that she doesn't even bother putting up a nice appearance on stage. Her hair is a mess, she seems zoned out most of the time, she'll occasionally walk around and sway with a dancer. If she chooses to lipsync then she should consider putting up a show. Enough with standing in one place pretending you are singing it live. And seriously how hard is it to lip sync? I think I have studied her enough to impersonate her better onstage than she can do it herself. I am not hating on her, I am just hurt and saddened to see Mariah systematically ruining her legacy. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 21:20)

What do we know?! (49,716) by Cgee54 from Usa What do we officially know? We know she's divorcing, we know the media is shredding her to pieces, we know the fans and the public is also shredding her to pieces. We know she's having vocal problems. What else do we know that is obvious? In my opinion there's nothing left to do but wait and see how the year plays out. For me is hard to even start speculating what's going on with her because we hardly know anything that's going on with her besides her getting divorced. There's no excuse for her behavior yet I cannot argue or claim that her team is not doing anything about the situation because we don't know if Mariah being Mariah is doing whatever she wants. Depression is real very real and especially when half of the world is telling you, you are not worth anything because the talent that made you famous is in question. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 21:07)

Las Vegas fear (49,715) by NHYTG from nyc I'm beginning to feel some fear about these Las Vegas shows, things are about to get even worse than the Glitter era. Bad news everywhere, fanbase rapidly decreasing. I hope everything will work out well in Las Vegas, as it was mentioned before, Mariah getting fired from these shows would be the ultimate humiliation. I choose to stay positive but I'm not blind for what is going on. I wonder if Mariah herself has any idea what's going on, or if her team keeps her away from today's reality? (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 20:37)

Jamaica and Mariah and so on (49,714) by Anthony Carey from U.K I was just reading all the comments about Mariah and of course noticed how well people know her personally (or think they do). Anyway what struck me was remember the whole tree lighting fiasco and then she bounced right back at The Beacon? Will the same be said for the Vegas shows? I think Mariah will put on a great show because it will all be well prepared/planned and organised. Mariah or at least LA Reid will notice all this negative press and pull out all the stops baring in mind Mariah has got 3 months now to prepare herself. I do also think that Mariah appears to be at her best when it's her show, her true fans and I for one can't wait to see her come what may. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 20:36)

Vegas (49,713) by Danny Cedar from uk How on earth is Mariah going to manage Vegas? I don't think it's gonna happen. Sorry. If her ticket sales were suffering before this, they will certainly diminish now. I just wish she would release a few albums suited to her voice now and then be able to sing them live and have fun with a new twist on an occasional old song. Even Stevie Nicks' voice has changed. If Vegas goes ahead it's going to be the end of her, that "mega star" associate just won't cut it anymore. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 20:32)

Mixed feelings something is not right (49,712) by Warrior Butterfly from USA I just watched the WBT clip and I agree with G.G. Also it's not that she walked of stage during the climax, something is not right in general with her as a person. Not a missed que she has this strange vibe about her like in 2001 on TRL. Something is wrong outside her publicly known problems. It actually makes me sad for her a human being, it is not like she can ask for a leave absence from the HR dept she is Mariah Carey, inc. I'm wondering if Jamaica was a test run for her, I don't think it was mentioned that far in advance. When Britney went to Vegas you would to have been living in middle earth to not know. There were talk show stops all over, pictures, posters you name it, no way to miss it. I really do hope Mariah Carey, Inc gets some rest and maybe some balance and let Mariah (the person) breath a bit. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 20:22)

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