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One More Try (45,503) by Dove from USA I read an interview with Walter Afanasieff where he talked about they were writing the Music Box album. He said she was really inspired by George Michael's Faith album and one song in particular, which may have been this song. The heartbeat makes me think of when you're in your bathtub and can hear your own heartbeat, it gives me the feeling of being alone and vulnerable. "Hold you, touch you, think that you're mine" makes me think she's afraid of letting herself fall in love because she was burned before. But then the next song is hopeful. Did she really say these were sequenced to show where she's at since last time we heard her? (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 22:50)

Leave Mariah alone (45,502) by Xavier Peoples from United States It's very annoying coming on here everyday and seeing all the so called "fans" talking crap about Mariah all the time. No one is forcing you to listen to her. If you don't like the direction that she is going in, then there are plenty other artist for you to listen to. I think the reason why so many of you are always complaining about Mariah is because you know there isn't another singer out who even comes close. It's not like you can stop being a fan of Mariah and start listening to Ariana Grande or something. I don't know who you guys are comparing Mariah to. She is still the best in the business. With the exception of Beyonce, I don't know what other female singer that you could even compare her to. She is still the best. No one comes close. I think a lot of you are being too critical. Mariah isn't perfect. Everyone makes mistakes and all artists have highs and lows in their careers. I just wish people would stop being so critical and just be grateful that she is still releasing music. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 22:15)

Missing the old Mariah (45,500) by Jewel from USA So I just read Mariah's message about MariahCarey.com having a new design and a new voice message on her website. "[...] some [...] contests for the [...]. You know Me. I Am Mariah... The elusive chanteuse [...]." Who is this person? What is with the constant high school slang? I have to remind myself that this is a 44 year old woman talking. Sadly I never thought I'd ever say this but I seriously miss the classy, non-photoshopped, English speaking, gospel inspired singing, commercially viable Tommy Mottolla version of Mariah Carey. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 20:59)

Personal sum up (45,499) by Orkun from The Netherlands She needs to own up to her many many mistakes. She never does. So this attitude is taken over by many fans too, not all. The singles that Mariah wanted to be released in the past didn't do well. Her songwriting skills have been going down big time. The album is just not good. The vocals are so overproduced that it sounds robotic. The lip syncing. Why did she never say that she does sing live? Because she knows she isn't. Sure, it's safer to sing in the studio and it's hard to hit some notes live. But come on, it's not only 1-2 notes she misses. She misses like a full octave at least. Even like ten notes. That doesn't add up. I'm excluding her head voice. She needs to be real again. Someone who playbacks is all about image, divaisms, Photoshop and auto tune, can not be down to earth as that person claims to be. This is my truth on the whole topic. Her personal life is hers. I'm talking music. Peace. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 19:59)

One More Try (45,497) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I just want to start off by saying that I really found the theory of it being about her pregnancy quite amazing. I would never have landed on that. So whoever thought of it, really good point. However I personally don't think it's about the miscarriage. 1) She said this album is a journey since she last left (that will be Memoirs). Her miscarriage was in 2008. 2) Mariah has given special mention to songs like Cry, Thirsty and all but never really talked abt OMT. If it was about the baby she would have atleast said the song is close my heart or something. 3) The lyrics can't be taken literally, it's not written by her so maybe there actually is no hidden meaning, she's just doing her version of it. 4) She had a miscarriage but after that had two beautiful babies, now I may be wrong here but I think two beautiful healthy children is like to have helped her get over her previous tragedy (like I said, I may be wrong). So these are just my two cents. Also Money may be about Nick but it's not in a negative way because she sings "They don't mean a thing because I come home to you at the end of the day." So it's a happy song, talking about how she doesn't need money because she comes home to her lover or maybe dembabies. So yes it's not negative. Also if it was something as sensitive as her miscarriage, I think Mariah would have penned her own song, instead of using another singer's song for it. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 19:35)

Beginning of hopefully something wonderful (45,496) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Yesterday, Mariah informed all her followers on FB about her revamped website. Okay. But it's what she said next that's definitely intriguing. If this only marks the beginning, then, especially with the rumors about new songs circulating, I'm really excited for what she has up her sleeve. A re-release? A whole new album? Who knows? I'm just really glad Mariah seems to be back on track and moving on from what I feel is the actual lowest point of her career so far. Glitter (the soundtrack) is a smash compared to MIAMTEC or even MOAIA for that matter, and at least back then she had the public's sympathy. Now it's safe to say only her fans can tolerate her. Honestly, other than great music and a moderate hit, the only good that can come from this extended nightmare of an era is if she learns from her mistakes, and that should she manage to pull off another comeback, this will make the success even sweeter. Now more than ever, it's do or die for her, particularly if she still intends to use her 18 #1s to promote herself, then it's high time to add more to that. (Especially since Rihanna's just 6 phoned-in features away from catching up, which is very likely as she's almost 2 decades younger. Although if the time comes that she does beat The Beatles, that record would probably already have lost its significance.) So go Mariah. Nothing should be half-assed from now on. You can prove 'em all wrong once again. Win back all your old fans and make new ones as well. We're all rooting for you. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 17:14)

Radio and women over 40 (45,495) by THE TRUTH from USA "Truth" be told, if she disappears for awhile, throws out the trash she's surrounded by, releases a stone cold smash (not off this album), is supported by a team of powerhouse movers and shakers ie Jimmy Iovine, Benny Medina, etc and follows direction, she'll have more #1s if not. Well I don't know about you, but I gave up sugar drinks when I began around the same time I started dating. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 15:58)

Radio and women over 40 (45,494) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Yes, Mariah was an exception with #Beautiful, but I didn't mean Mariah wasn't the exception, I mean it's an exception for them to get a song on the radio. We can't ignore the fact that it's more of an up hill battle for women in Mariah's age bracket. Mariah, Madonna, and Cher's new music is not being played on the radio at the levels that a new Beyonce, Rihanna, or Katy Perry song is played. We might as we "tell the truth about the matter". (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 15:12)

Migrate (45,493) by THE TRUTH from USA I just reread your post and realized that we might actually know each other. Very funny really. Yes, control issues have resulted in chronic disappointments for MCs fans. I agree that she should have stayed with Handprint. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 12:18)

Billy from England / Triumphant (45,492) by Martyn from England, UK I have never understood the hatred for Triumphant. It's in my top 10 of all time. So empowering, and an incredible chorus. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 10:37)

Migrate (45,491) by THE TRUTH from USA Truth be told, without Tommy she never would have had the massive support from Sony or any other major. Although WB was courting her simultaneously it was not at that level, Tommy championed her obsessively almost to the point of losing his job. Record companies were not investing in artist development on that level back then. She was a remarkable emerging talent back then but labels were very conservative and radio had to be aggressively primed for her. Yes Benny was a powerhouse, as was Sandy Galen but none of these super managers lasted for very long and with good reason. You have to be manageable or a have a genius marketing mind like Madonna. Mariah doesn't want leaders around her, she wants sycophants, hence; JD, and Nick. Not to be rude but if Butterfly drinks are an indication of what's in store, I'd say sending flowers or balloons to Benny Medina might be a great move on her part. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 9:46)

One More Try (45,490) by Darryle from USA I believe it's about the miscarriage. I have a few reasons for that. One being the heartbeat. I believe that could be the heartbeat of her child. Two are the lines: "I'm looking out for angels", "Just trying to find some peace." I think these lines mean that Mariah's looking to heaven or God trying to find if her child has become an angel and she's trying to come to peace with that. Also the line: "I don't want to learn to hold you touch you think that you're mine." This line would mean get attached and love it because that would bring more pain knowing that she would only lose it. Three being all the goodbyes she adds in the song would be her parting ways. Last is her voice. I think Mariah chose to sing in such a high voice on this song is because she's trying to replicate or imitate a child like voice because the songs about a miscarriage. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 7:59)

Celebrities praise Mariah Carey: part 4 (45,489) by Dove from USA I found this fanmade video on YouTube. Even though I know Mariah is one of the best selling artists of all time, sometimes I forget and I feel like I'm the only one, so when I hear other people are just as in love with her it makes me really happy. I especially related to the Mary J Blige part at about 7:13. When I was little Mariah gave me hope when it felt like I had nothing to live for too and I also felt like she was an angel. I want for her to keep burning her light and not fade away. I hope they do have a 25 anniversary concert to honor her next year featuring celebrities who love her as much as we do. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 6:35)

Lee / relevancy (45,487) by Edward from USA Lee, I never stated that Madonna was relevant. One thing she has done better than most though is keeping her old fan base coming to her concerts. Madonna, Michael, Mariah, Whitney, and Celine have all won their place in music history. Out of all the remaining acts Mariah is definitely the most relevant. She's only 44, I think she still has another great and successful album under her weave. She just needs a great manager, publicist, label, and great music. Every time those four factors have come into place, she's had great success. But she's been more successful when she has listened and allowed to be guided by those who know the business. Tommy made her keep "Hero" and suggested she should record a Christmas album ("Merry Christmas"). The man may have been wicked, but he had an eye for talent and great music. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 5:55)

E=MC2 is a great album (45,486) by jaker20 from US But the promo is terrible, and it's partly due to the timing of the album with her marriage to Nick. As soon as Bye Bye dropped, her career also went bye bye. I'm not blaming Nick for her failed career since. I'm just stating facts. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 3:43)

Edward, Truth (45,485) by Lee from USA If Madonna was so relevant, then why hasn't she had a #1 hit on the Hot 100 since the late 1990s but had the number 1 grossing tour of 2012? It surely isn't the music that drawing her fans in. I thank the heavens that Mimi don't need to resort to that nonsense to make her legacy. But I agree with you that Mimi needs some new people around her to help preserve it. (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 0:53)

New message from MC, tour (45,484) by nikki from usa "Hi lambs, welcome to the brand new mariahcarey.com. Stay tuned as we continue adding more sections and pow moments to the site. We're also gonna be coming up with some festive contests for the lambily. Lastly, I just wanted to thank everyone for always supporting me. You know Me. I Am Mariah... It's only the beginning. The elusive chanteuse dahlings. I can't wait to see you when I hit the road, starting very soon and I'm very excited about it. Love you much, bye bye." Mariah (Tuesday 22 July 2014; 0:27)

Mariah's official website (45,483) by Manny from U.S. Mariah has a new message on her official website. She mentions she will "hit the road soon". I'm excited. Last time I saw her in concert was in Vegas. It's long overdue. I haven't seen anyone mention that the WMA will be broadcasted in the UK. Finally, we will see Mariah open the show with "Meteorite" (Sunday August 3, 7pm). (Monday 21 July 2014; 23:54)

Re: The Truth (45,482) by migrate2008 from I enjoy your posts. Truth be told. We (the fans) are the victims of her side effects (Tommy, control issues). She had a great 4 years with Benny Medina. Maybe she saw Tommy in Benny? I am curious to see what's next. Will she continue controlling her own career? Or will she hire a manager like Benny? Time will tell. (Monday 21 July 2014; 23:48)

My 2 cents (45,481) by B from USA I'm happy. Mariah made the type of music she loves. The type of music I want from her. Yes, this era has been messy but it hasn't made me think any less of her or the album. She's still the greatest. Kids these days don't know what real talent is. Sad but true. (Monday 21 July 2014; 23:39)

Theories of Mariah decline (45,480) by Isabelle from USA There have been tons of theories about why her music career has declined. One of them is Nick Cannon, ever since they announce their engagement Mariah's music started to windle down. Nick Cannon made Mariah's personal life into an open book. The thing that people were curious about her was her personal life, now that Nick Cannon speaks about it, it may have turned people off. The second hasn't become a visual artist, such as Beyonce, Rihanna, Madonna, Katy. Mariah's visuals from music and concerts are sort of lacking. Current artists are using visuals to get people's short attention span, making them feel like they are watching more than just a music video or concert but a film. Third has to do with ageism/sexism, many radio programmers have said they don't want to play women of certain ages because they feel like they would be able to bring the enough advertisers and listeners to stations if they play them on their station. We don't longer live in a society where we would have to call in to stations so they can play their music on the radio because we have different other sources to listen to our music. Which would effect an artist like Mariah wouldn't be able to reach out new audiences to her music. (Monday 21 July 2014; 23:19)

Triumphant (45,479) by Billy from England, UK Just been listening to this song after a while and I love it. (Monday 21 July 2014; 22:21)

Ageism particularly Edward (45,478) by THE TRUTH from USA Hi Edward, your observations about Madonna's album packaging, promotion, and success of her tours speaks to her success at recognizing and often leading trends. This has always been her genius. She manages to stay relevant at her advanced age. Madonna historically had brilliant mentors like Jellybean, Freddy Demann, Seymour Stein, etc. Her marketing strategies have always been inspired. Never much of a singer but always genius. Anyone calling Madonna "an exception" I'd ask, "Mariah isn't one?" I do think it's unfortunate to hear people mentioning Mariah, Cher, JLo, and Madonna etc in the same breath when we're talking about singing and songwriting, even post 2001 she's in a stratosphere all her own. Also, please everybody stop blaming JD for her failure, he's a junk manager but she hired him. As far as her marketing to a youth market, she should have just stayed true to the fans who made her a star rather than chasing the kids. Say and believe whatever you like about Tommy Mottola but he was a brilliant mentor and you can actually track her downward trajectory to their break up. Just because you divorce someone doesn't mean you need to now drive 180 mph in the opposite direction just to show you can. (Monday 21 July 2014; 22:18)

Re: the heartbeat on OMT (45,477) by TR from USA I always thought the significance of the heartbeat was more like trepidation or nervousness. The song is about the hesitance of giving love another try, so I thought she was referencing Nick (song is preceded by Money, quite obviously about him). She's saying she's been through a lot of hurt and the people she thought she loved ended up basically just teaching her about heartbreak ("Teacher, there are things that I still have to learn, and the last one I had made me cry"). Given how Memoirs ended with IWTKWLI, I thought this was an appropriate 80s cover-sequel to that song. She's nervous about putting her heart on the line again, and if he's just going to hurt her, he should "just let her go" because she can't handle going through that level of hurt again. So the heartbeat identifies how we all feel when we're anxious about starting something all over again, particularly if we've had bad experiences in the past. You're nervous, you're cautious, you're fragile, you're scared. Your heartbeat is the only thing you can hear sometimes, and it's so loud to you that you think everybody must be able to hear it. The brilliance here is that it's very faint at the end of the song, so it's almost as if she's conveying this exact message: "My vulnerability here is not as loud and obvious to you as it is to me." It's the most effective part of that song for me because the vocal just isn't doing it in my opinion (it almost doesn't sound like her at all). (Monday 21 July 2014; 21:25)

Static and clicking (45,476) by Warr-en-Peace from United States Anyone notice the insane amount of static and clicking in several songs, noticeably both Supernatural and YDKWTD? Also, listen to the single version of Beautiful and then the album version. In Miguel's last few lines in the first chorus there is major mic overload that isn't apparent in the single version. I realized that the song was remastered for the album to flow well and it was given a less bass-heavy instrumental. Doing this likely caused his vocals to change and go unnoticed. (Monday 21 July 2014; 21:20)

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