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Ariana Grande, my two cents (42,157) by Terna from Nigeria There is only one Mariah Carey. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 19:27)

Marissa (42,156) by 123 from USA I have to address your posts because they are filled with inaccuracies. Mariah is not insecure towards new singers, however she is annoyed one artist's team is using her name, fame, and incomparable level of talent to describe someone who is supposed to be new. Mariah has praised Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, and Rihanna all who are far more successful than Ariana and who are more of "threat" at breaking Mariah's records, especially Rihanna's string of number ones. Mariah may have access to the whistle register, but she sounds nothing like Minnie, hence the term inspired. Mariah was compared to Whitney in the beginning because they have similar sounding upper belts and Mariah was put with producers Whitney worked with. Once Mariah got more control, her sound had changed from Whitney's. Why would Mariah, like you suggested, make songs like Almost Is Never Enough? She has actually already created the same song in 1993 called Never Forget You. So I ask why would she bother to make the same song she created in 1993? You say she should stop making the same sounding wbt ballads and then in the same breath you want her to re-create a song she did years ago. Play both songs side by side, tell me she wasn't ripped off. Ariana shaded Mariah by not naming her as in inspiration when asked in an interview, yet all of her YouTube videos are Mariah covers. Her producer Harmony Samuels admitted to going for the 90's Mariah sound. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 19:14)

Kelly Price (42,155) by Gerald from USA by the way of NYC I watched that entire first season of R&B Divas LA and to be honest Kelly came off as a bitter and angry person who tried to bully the other cast members. As far as her issues with MC I believe it stems from the fact that Kelly was signed to Def Jam first and once Mariah signed to the label she became the first priority rather then Kelly herself. Just my observation. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 19:02)

Ariana (42,154) by Blake from Italy While I agree with many of the negative comments I have read on this site like how the [censored] rather than focusing on displaying the gift/talent which got her where she is, uninspired hookless singles, lack of or poor promotion, general disinterest in giving anything back to her fans other than empty promises of an album that is four years over due, and [censored] from a mother of two, I must say in Mariah's defense that you can't even begin to compare Ariana with Mariah. Mariah crushes Ariana on every level. You can not compare Mariah's musicianship to Ariana's because they are not on the same planet. Mariah [censored] can out sing anyone on the radio period. Mariah's biggest mistake has been to continue singing after she got released from Virgin. If Mariah chooses to [censored] like taking care of the instrument which got her to where she is, then she should just retire and raise her children in a healthy environment. But please stop making absurd comparisons between she and these mediocre artists it's just plain ridiculous. [censored] (Sunday 16 March 2014; 16:42)

Why am I censored? (42,153) by Carol from Spain Democracy on this page only exists for some. I'm accepting everyone's opinion but apparently the webmaster puts censored in my comments because he can't take mine. It looks like I cursed at someone here. Opinions are worth for what they are and I'm not buying fights with anyone, simply because we think differently about what being a fan should be. Like Mariah says, "They can say anything they want to say." (Sunday 16 March 2014; 12:09)

Respect (42,151) by Douglas Smith from Usa The lambs are mixed on the recent songs. I am too but to put others down is childish. I am tired of reading about Ariana here. Go to her fan board if you must. Ariana is inspired by Mariah of course. Not everyone has to like everything all of the time to be a fan. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 10:59)

Hating (42,150) by Chicago Lamb from USA Kelly is a liar. Even after she left Mariah as backup, Mariah humbly featured her as a guest artist on the "Through the rain" remix off Charmbracelet. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 6:06)

Billboard poll for most excited to hear (42,149) by G.G. from USA Go vote for MC. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 3:36)

You're Mine remixes (42,148) by NYHotShotta from USA I'm still waiting for some legendary resung dance remixes by Mariah. I think her last good resung dance remixes were the David Morales remixes of It's like That. I like the beat on the You're Mine (...) remix but I was hoping she'd go in the studio and re-record the remixes with Maryanne, Taketha, Sherri, and Trey doing background vocals. Hopefully, she'll do so with the next single. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 3:07)

Just an observation (42,142) by Marissa from USA I've been reading some of the messages on here and it's sad to me that people take differing opinions so personally that they feel the need to give a counterargument to everything someone says. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Challenging/arguing with someone's preferences are not going to change them. It really just ends up becoming a battle of the egos. If you see that someone believes something different then you, why not just let it go or try to understand the logic behind what they feel instead of just writing them off as crazy, not a true lamb, ignorant, etc? I don't go toe-to-toe with everyone who likes the past 3 singles just because I don't. It's not worth it because it's not personal. Some people just can't handle that not everyone is going to rally around their opinion. (Sunday 16 March 2014; 0:46)

Standing my ground (42,141) by Carol from Spain I don't expect people to agree with me or my views on Mariah's artistry but I keep my ground: no one here has the right to tell Mariah how to sing, how to behave in public. You don't like a song, ok your business, but it's your job as fan to support the artist no matter what or don't cal yourself fans. The fanbase is devided and the US fans don't exist so, even if this album gets a 5 star review I can bet fans won't bother to buy it and I'm sure 90% of them will find flaws on the cover, on the lyrics, on the melodies, on everything. I personally choose to see her artistry and her amazing ability to create a song and appreciate the hardwork and her dedication to her work. This is not being delusional, this is what a fan does: supports. Unfortunally, not everyone agrees. And someone answered me that he/she was an expert on what you like. Well you're not a music expert to judge her. If you choose to buy the songs that are on the tops and forget to appreciate the obscure songs that's your business but don't come and tell me that's what a fan does. [censored] (Saturday 15 March 2014; 23:45)

Mimi L (42,140) by Tiina from Finland Wow, you're really something. You know what, think whatever you want. You just have to be right, don't you? Fine, be right. No wonder you're constantly fighting here, I mean with your attitude. Have you noticed? BecauseI have. I will leave you out from any of my future postings, so don't bother replying to me either, thanks. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 22:36)

Memoirs (42,139) by Tiina from Finland I absolutely loved Memoirs when it came out and listened to it on repeat. I still remember I was on a holiday in London when Obsessed came out and I remember listening to it in my hotel room all excited. I also remember H.A.T.E.U. particularly, that song actually helped me during my depression. Anyway, since Mariah is putting out a new studio album, I listened to Memoirs from beginning to end and I hadn't listened to it in a long time like that because lately I've been obsessing about Daydream. I always have a phase of listening to a certain album from her and then it's like all I listen to. Anyway, I was quickly reminded how much I love Memoirs and what a beautiful album it is. There's a perfect flow in that one and every song is worth listening to. That's how it is. Mariah makes beautiful albums. But people don't listen to albums anymore, it's sad. It's all about singles. Mariah is a beast in the studio and she tells beautiful stories but people miss out because they're not listening to the whole thing. Like she's been talking about the upcoming album: it's a journey. One single is only one moment of that journey. I'm really curious and excited to hear her new album and I know all these singles will make sense on the album. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 22:28)

Tiina (42,138) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Darling, I think you read my post wrong, I didn't twist your words. If you would read closely, I used the phrase "or just for the sake of argument let's say" Mariah "totally ripped off" the other singers. I said that to make a point. I don't think in any part of my message I wrote you said it. So please maybe read it again to see for yourself. I just meant "let's assume she totally ripped the others off". I'm very much aware that you meant she was inspired. Mariah has been owning her style since the very first song she ever released, whether it has been inspired by people she look up to or not. She definitely takes inspirations but always inserts her own creativity. I don't think there is a single song where people can say "oh MC totally ripped off Whitney or Aretha or whatever". Nope, I'll just say this again, taking inspiration is one thing, ripping off is another. MC has been doing the former, Ariana the latter. Whether Ariana grows out of it, will be seen in future, I'm talking about the present sweetheart, and the truth is quite "in your face". And also, I said this before, I'll say it again, hey atleast Mariah acknowledges her influences, unlike Miss Grande who keeps denying her songs are influenced by Mariah, when they quite blatantly. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 21:58)

TMB made me a lamb / the lambily (42,137) by Tiina from Finland I became a lamb when I heard Touch My Body. Before that, I had been listening and watching Mariah's live performances on YouTube. Slowly but surely I became obsessed. But when I heard Touch My Body and saw the video, I was sold. I loved the humour both in that song and video and I realized Mariah was in on the diva joke, I mean, she was making fun of herself and that was cool and funny. She was so talented and beautiful and had a sense of humour too, and that's when I turned into a lamb. So, it doesn't always need to be a very strong vocal moment that can make a person a lamb. In the beginning I mainly listened to her new stuff. I love her whispery vocals, always have and it took me some time to like the older stuff because it seemed to me she only sang ballads. Now I love it all, every album, every era. Mariah has raised my expectations for vocal quality in other people's work and also my own. And I'm kinda sad to say this but when I joined the lambily, I noticed the negativity right away. I think it's really sad that the lambs are constantly fighting each other and have for years. I'm a huge fan of Marilyn Monroe and in the MM community, it's pretty much all loving and accepting, we're strongly united there. I'm proud to be a lamb and I wish we could all respect each other and remain united, even if we have different opinions. Heck, the lambs were here before the monsters and others, we should show them lol. But we only can as united. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 21:48)

Opinions on Mariah (42,136) by nathan from USA I have been visiting MCArchives since 2003 and have been reading the messageboard for awhile now. I do believe everybody is entitled to his or her opinion. But then I notice that if someone doesn't like something, they act like it's the end of the world. The energy needs to be reversed and let us all be more respectful and optimistic on this era. Let the thumbs up or thumbs down things be of use. I do hope people just ignore the negativity and let's just hope for a great album on May, that is, if there's no more pushing back. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 21:31)

Mimi L (42,135) by Tiina from Finland I didn't say Mariah is ripping off anyone. Sorry but you twisted my words and didn't understand my point. Honey, I love this woman and I have the ultimate respect for her artistry. She has a spectacular catalogue of music, which I listen to constantly and collect on vinyl, cassette, cd, you name it, and I love it so much. Mariah is her own artist and truly unique. But my point was that everyone is inspired by someone. Everyone borrows in music, everyone, period. I gave you examples of Mariah's wonderful songs that were inspired by other artists. Did she make them her own? Of course. But the point was that she was inspired by these artists and borrowed their flavour which she added and blended into her own thing and made some outstanding, original music. That was never my issue. Of course Mariah has her own thing. My issue is people ganging up on Ariana and saying she's just a copycat. Fine, ok, everyone can think however they like. It's just that every artist borrows stuff, even Mariah. And it's normal and that's how you create your own sound. Perhaps Ariana will evolve just like Mariah did evolve past the comparisons to Whitney and mixed more of her other influences in her music. Peace out (Saturday 15 March 2014; 21:11)

United we stand, divided we fall (42,134) by Marissa from USA Lamb_O_Chop, I never once said or implied that my opinion is a universal truth for the lambs. I am speaking from my perspective. I have loved every album MC has ever made except Memoirs. I listen to her multiple times a day because she has a body of work that is unmatched. That being said, my opinion about her recent music isn't going to change regardless of how many times you call me honey or sweetie. It would be nice if you focused solely on the points I'm making instead of trying to belittle me with pet names because I have a differing opinion. I also refuse to stoop down to the level of calling people's opinions laughable just to try to strengthen my perspective. I'm grown enough to state my opinion without the elitist attitude. I think the unity within the "lambily" is at an all time low. By unity I don't mean everyone having the same opinions, but everyone respecting others opinions and remembering that we are all lambs because we have a common love for MC. Some of her songs have touched our lives. It doesn't mean we have to like every era, song or no other artists except the ones MC likes. I also think the whole "if you don't like MC join another fanbase" thing is a bit much. Just like in a marriage, just because you aren't happy with a particular period doesn't mean you're going to run and get a divorce. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 20:06)

Mariah (42,133) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I won't get into any arguments but I would like to point out that saying Mariah is making the same song again and again is not true. Triumphant (albeit hated by most, but I like it) is an upbeat hip hop infused motivational song, #Beautiful a fresh, throwback sound with the vocals against an amazing guitar riffs. TAOLG a raw song, letting her voice take the spotlight and not over produced. Then comes YME, a sweet RnB love ballad, which starts of cutesy, has a hypnotic feel and then ends with some power vocals. I don't know which songs you all have been listening to, but the fact that the 4 released songs that were meant for her new album are completely different from each other just shows that Mariah really has been cooking up different songs for the upcoming album. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 19:50)

Memoirs (42,132) by Bill from the UK Personally the tracks we've had from the new album so far have all been better than the filler from Memoirs. The only songs I listen to are Betcha Gon Know, HATEU, Ribbon, It's A Wrap and IWTKWLI. The rest? Meh. Beautiful, TAOLG and to a lesser extend YME have all excited me more. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 19:35)

Thoughts (42,131) by clueey23 from USA The Ariana Grande conversations are so last summer. Why would MC make music like Ariana? MC has "been there, done that". Ariana can sing but she is short of amazing. I wish some of you would move forward with the times. I think MC has been very complimentary towards younger singers, older singers, and her peers. But the thing with Ariana not having her own style, that weak voiced cover of "Emotions" and "AIWFCIY" had me done with her. And then she performed "Tatooed Heart" on some award show and I loved it. But the formula that they're are using is MCs old one and they're not doing that great of a job. Seriously, I think that's where MC was coming from talking about longevity and agreeing with Jay-Z's statement, "Don't compare me to anyone." Because if anyone's being shaded it's MC. How dare people call this little teeny bopper Nickoloden kid the next MC because she can do a few runs and hit a couple of whistle notes? And honestly, I don't like her high notes, they're not great. AG has a lot of growing to do. Hopefully one day she'll find her own style and voice. Now MC did shade Nicki Minaj, but for obvious reasons. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 19:05)

My two cents (42,130) by Dani from USA I've liked Mariah's recent releases, but I will admit that it's taken quite a while for them to grow on me. I'm inclined to embrace what she puts out on account that, as does every other lamb, I'm sure, I know what she's capable of. Putting aside the fact that I'm a lamb though, her recent releases have been lacking, and I think I know why. I think it's because she's stuck in a musical vacuum, where she doesn't let anything in and anything out. She's expressed the fact that she doesn't normally listen to anyone else's music. I think this is a big mistake because it puts her out of touch with the general ethos of music nowadays. She's using the same formula, and being the visionary that we know she can be, she's doing herself a big disservice. She should let others influence her. It's how you get inspiration, I think, and even motivation to create something "more groundbreaking" than others. I can only take record scratches at the beginning of her songs so much. Let's not recreate Underneath The Stars. Let's do something radically different in the vein of today's music. I know she can do it, and as always, I have hopes for the album as a whole. I really do. And on another note, Ariana and Mariah are two different artists, and yes, Ari was definitely influenced by Mariah, but she's not some sort of "usurper". She's channeling Mariah, and we should embrace it. Her album is amazing and I love her voice (it's so smooth and beautiful), and yes, I'm also a lamb. It's possible. Lol. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 15:55)

Same old (42,129) by Holly from UK I wasn't going to post on here again but I just gotta say, this always happens prior to the release of a new Mariah album. Certain "so called" fans decide to bash Mariah even though we've only heard three tracks and don't even have an official track listing yet. The criticism starts countless arguments between lambs but the minute that album drops on May 6th they'll all start gushing about how amazing it is and how proud they are blah, blah, blah. There is a word for some of you: fickle. If Mariah isn't doing it for you anymore then run away to Beyoncé Land, or Rihanna Town. Nobody is making you stay. But quit spreading your pointless negativity for the rest of us. For the record, I'm loving Mariah's new material and I'm super excited about the album (Saturday 15 March 2014; 15:51)

Subtle changes (42,128) by Musti from UK I've read some of the comments regarding the new album and the direction Mariah should take. Mariah has been making music for a very long time, she doesn't need to change her musical direction drastically at this stage. But I do think a couple of indie/alternative inspired songs might work wonders in changing people's opinions about her music. I would also like a few electro R&B songs on there. But not EDM, she's too good for that. More importantly she should to make a few subtle changes that would surprise people. Like showing the left side of her face on the album cover, something she has only done on Emotions. Also ditch the font that she has used on her CDs since forever. Maybe the colours too. Ditch brown, black or pink-yet-lavender. I do love her long hair but not when she puts in endless extensions and looks like a lioness. Oh and also anything that is ultra camp, like covering herself up in glitter in YME. I love what she stands for - an all powerful singer and business woman who is girlier than a teenage girl with pink Barbie dolls. She has never had to "man it up" like Beyonce or Rihanna to be a strong woman. But unfortunately people don't seem to get that and they continue to see her like a ditzy daisy. And of course the way she's been behaving in her interviews lately doesn't help that cause either. However even is she doesn't change anything, I am and will always be here for the music and will continue to support her even after she retires. (Saturday 15 March 2014; 15:22)

Marissa (42,127) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Sweetie, Im' gonna need you to speak for yourself and not in general terms, because hunny I adore TAOLG, YM is cute, and #Beautiful was a great effort and I completely disagree with your assessment of Ariana recycled songs sounding any better, it's quite laughable if you ask me. And you all know good and well if Mariah did the same songs that child did, you all would still be complaining. She won't ever please everybody. I'm sure there are people who hated and complained about songs from her best eras, so it's nothing but another opinion, everybody has one. And since you brought it up, this woman gave us 23 years of great music and vocals, so instead of slapping her in the face you need to be appreciative. (*agrees to disagree and logs off*) (Saturday 15 March 2014; 2:37)

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