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Mariah (39,207)
by Brad Catoe from United States
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Never almost went bankrupt. That's a rumor and a little ridiculous. The saying "Mariah" money wasn't just made up haha. I am also waiting for news. Hello Mariah? Lol.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 19:28)
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Concerns (39,205)
by SC from USA
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Hi guys. I'm very concerned with the upcoming era. We are still waiting for some sort of news from MC on the upcoming album. No dates, no updates, nothing. I'm shocked that in September the only news from her is about a nail polish. So sad. What's going on? I saw an article on Billboard's website today on the fall's hottest albums. Of course, no news on MC. Everyone who's anyone seems to have things under control, but what's going on with her team? I honestly don't get her sometimes. Is she concerned with her fans not knowing anything about it? At this point #Beautiful is old news. Whatever happened to the remix video after all that trouble? She broke her arm for this video, so it was probably obsolete and badly done, so it's probably going to end up in the "enhanced" version of her album. All of that work for nothing. Please MC, focus on the upcoming marketing campaign for the album. What happened to that cool dance track that she played for us during her voicemail? Please reinvent yourself and come up with a new sound and a killer video thats not overly done and styled. We need some raw music and image. Please give this to us. We requested an acoustic version of #Beautiful and it didn't happen. We only received badly done remixes with hip hop. This is now what the general public wants at this point. We want raw, Adele-like music. This is what made you a star back in the day. I'm sad and frustrated at this point.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 16:51)
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Mariah's reputation (39,204)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I can agree [...] degree that Mariah's bad reputation dates back to the Mottola days. Back then [...] saw Mariah as just as a [...], having nothing to say regarding the path of her career. But that is a long time ago, I don't think [...] even know she was married to him anymore, especially the younger crowd. She could have made a brand [...] image after Mottola, and I like how she was during the Butterfly era, but when Rainbow came out, she was a [...], and the video for Loverboy took it to another [...]. I remember I made my friends watch the Loverboy video, and they couldn't really believe their eyes. I don't think she ever will gain respect from the [...] unless she presents her self as a bit more mature, or a lot more mature. It's ok to be a [...] when you are in [...] 20's, but in [...] 40's? Now, it's time to act like an adult. But after seeing her outfit at the Summer Jam 97, I think she has a long way to go. In my opinion, I think she normally acts mature in her personal life, I think this [...] act is just for the [...], and if I'm right, I don't understand why she wants to be percieved that way. I have listened to Ariana Grande, and I don't like it that much, maybe because I'm a bit tired of RnB. And I think Mariah has a way more powerfull voice than Grande, but I can understand the comparison some bit.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 14:17)
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R-e-s-p-e-c-t (39,203)
by nikki from usa
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The reason Mariah isn't respected in the industry or by the general populace is because of Tommy Mottola for 3 main causes. Cause 1: MC's contribution to her own success has been downplayed since day 1. Brenda K. Starr is never mentioned in the original tale nor the bidding war Tommy got in with Warner Bros. over obtaining her. Unless you're a lamb, the general public to this day is unaware she's a songwriter/producer. The cinderella story was promoted to the extreme - Tommy "discovered" her and changed her life - she just got lucky. Cause 2: "We don't see her as a pop-dance artist, we see her as a franchise." Sony nearly went bankrupt not having steady hits. The real reason she didn't tour was because Sony wanted her spinning out hits. This only made people suspicious about her true vocal ability. To this day MC is more scrutinized for her vocals than any other artist. Cause 3: She married the boss. The outside world saw her marry Tommy has major success with Music Box, esp. internationally. Merry Christmas was huge and Daydream legendary. People and industry alike view Mariah as a kept woman who slept her way to the top. Not a woman who spent every waking hour working her ass off. Presenting her this way was important for Tommy, she's a jewel who can churn out hits, a hot commodity. He'd need her to be insecure and doubt herself so she doesn't realize her options. He'd need the world to view her as "his created product" to keep others from sniffing around his goods.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 6:57)
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The people's champ: MC vs the industry (39,202)
by RadChad from United States
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If Mariah's fans multiple purchases of TGIFY made her number one, than where the hell are they now? For real though, I've always credited TGIFY making it to the top due to the remix with Joe and Nas. Everybody was jamming that version, even non lambs, so I can't completely agree with this theory, it's my belief that it takes a little more than the core fans buying multiple copies to make it to number one. But I'm sure fans of other artist buy multiple copies of their material as well, so it probably all fairs out in the long run. I also agree with the post about the politics behind airplay, promotion, and just in general. It's obvious that the industry has something against Mariah, but like the Phoenix she always rises, and proves she doesn't need their favor because she has us and the favor of the general public (IMO). She may not have a gazillion Grammys like Beyonce or others, but they don't have her albums sales. This is why Mariah is the people's champ. Though the lyrics to the original version of TGIFY may be lost on the general public, could we say the same for Hero, Always Be My Baby, One Sweet Day or We Belong Together? You know the answer. 
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 5:22)
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Clip of possible new song (39,201)
by 123 from USA
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Did anyone else catch a new song Mariah was singing on the Barbara Walters special. It wasn't Bring It On Home. It's just a short clip of her in the studio. It plays during the 2:10-2:17 mark of the interview. From the short clip, its sounds like a great song. Mature, jazzy influenced, sung in full voice. If she has more material like that on the album, its really going to be a winner. If it happens to be true that she will be re-making Lullaby Of Birdland, which is an old jazz standard sung by greats like Sarah V, Ella F, and even most recently Amy W, it sounds like she is taking a mature, jazz influenced approach that she injected into her Merry Christmas II You album. If this is the case, I believe we will have a winner on our hands. I attached the link to the interview to see if anyone hears what I heard.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 5:00)
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New album / Ariana Grande's "Yours Truly" (39,200)
by Edward from USA
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After being frustrated without news about any music from Mariah, I decided to give a listen to Ariana Grande's album "Yours Truly", and I have to say there are some good songs in it. She has a retro song called "Tattooed Heart" which would be the equivalent of Mariah's "Forever" that I think it is beautiful and very well sung. I'll be listening to her music in the meantime untill Mariah put some music out. She's not as powerful vocally as Mariah was during the 90's, but she sings beautifully and reminds me of Mariah back then. Compared to all the garbage music out there, she's a breath of fresh air. I like the fact that she's not hitting whistle notes in her album. I think those belong to our beloved Mariah. She's trying to find her own voice.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 3:52)
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Come on Mariah (39,198)
by Lyric from USA
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After dealing with the disappointment of Mariah's incompetent team releasing a false album release date, we fans deserve some type of news. At least she could talk about the creative spot she's in with production and writing, so we know that new music is coming. Since Mariah loves the notion of being younger than she actually is, then she should come up with a daring way to keep up with her younger contemporaries. The industry is no longer interested in R&B. I don't want her to sell out really, but we just need something new. #Beautiful was a nice change. Mariah just needs to give us some news before the general public gets bored with any anticipation they may have had.
(Wednesday 4 September 2013; 1:40)
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Antsy for new music (39,197)
by CHAZ from USA
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I agree with Randy about Mariah presenting herself as "eternally 12" until this day. Even though Mariah's record speaks for itself, there's no doubt that she still wants to be "in the game" and dominate once more. Without uncertainty, Mariah's voice is unmatchable (excuse me, Ariana Grande), but in order for her to achieve another #1 single(s), she really needs to reinvent herself (hi Madonna), even as simple as changing her look (she's had the same look since "Music Box") or changing up her performances to become a little energetic, as opposed to just standing there. Mariah just needs to get out of her comfort zone (like collaborating w/ the same old artists, which is so predictable) and just shock us. I'm so ready for it. Mariah, I know your next album is going to be amazing, since Nick Cannon described it as all your "best" songs from all your previous albums all bundled up in one. I just hope your label backs you up 100% because your lambs undeniably will. I'm looking forward to new music, but at the moment, very antsy.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 23:15)
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RJJ12 from USA (39,196)
by Ms. Giselle from USA
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I agree with everything you said. I forgot to mention about the sales. I was a big fan during that era. Fans buying multiple copies of songs, didn't happen untill late in the game In the 90's. Starting with, you guessed it, ''TGIFY'' lol. Also it wasn't just Mariah fans who bought that song, 98 degree fans also bought copies and I remember when the video was shown on TRL. When people say Mariah got her #1's from price cuts didn't start untill ''TGIFY'' And really got slashed with "Loverboy". Look at ''Someday'', non fans don't even really remember that song unless you're a die hard fan. That single price wasn't cheap and that went to #1. The constant calling to radio stations happened later in her career. That only happened because once Mariah left Sony, Tommy pulled strings and had her songs blacklisted from radio (clear channel). He was also paying those stations to play JLo who only got her #1's because of that (at that time). The Grammies just flat out didn't and still don't like her. Why they snubbed her in 96 and 06 (used her for promotion, yet didn't air her wins on TV, yet the year before and after aired [...]. 
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 22:29)
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Upcoming era / Special K (39,195)
by John from USA
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Haha Special K, clearly you and I can't be in the same room together, since Butterfly is only my #5 Top MC album. Anyway, is anyone else a bit concerned about the upcoming era? Regardless of whether her new album flops or not, I'll always buy and enjoy the hell out of it. I just can't help really want her to score at least one #1 hit from this album. When I listen to the garbage that's on the radio today, I can't understand how a true talent like Mariah sometimes has trouble getting airplay (although Beautiful's airplay was pretty decent). I would love to have just one more epic era, then I don't care if she flops from here on out lol. Just one more smash era, like Daydream/TEOM/beginning of E=MC2. When I think of the lost potential of the E=MC2, I still haven't gotten over it. So much potential on such a great album. Lol. Get it together for this new era Mimi.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 20:38)
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New album (39,194)
by Anonymous from
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Ok, I know that I have been saying be calm about the album release, but now I'm starting to get worried. It is September. She was going to have it out. See I'm still calm about the release, but I'm starting to wonder what is the real reason of why it's not out. I'm starting to believe that someone told her that this CD was not sounding good and she needed to head back to the drawing board. I can't imagine, but yet I can. We all know that there was going to be a set back, but this one makes you really wonder.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 19:31)
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Last No 1 (39,193)
by Will from Australia
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It's funny but during the Glitter and Charmbraclet era I thought how annoying it was that Thank God I Found You could end up being her last No.1 as it's below par to some of her other hits and now I feel the same about Touch My Body. I like TMB, buts it's just a fun record and not one of her better efforts, kinda wish We Belong Together would have been the last, but wish more than anything for a smash single from the new album.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 8:29)
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Music Box (39,189)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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This is the first album I bought in a cassette tape (lol) and after six years I was able to buy all her albums in CD and videos (except First Home Vision, until now I have not found a copy of this). I used to play this album everyday that year until Daydream came and used to be one of my favorites. If MC would like to regain her 90s fans with her music to be released, she needs to go back to this format with a mixture of Daydream. These two album were among her best work. And now it's classic after 20 years.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 8:01)
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Randy (39,188)
by 123 from USA
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I would have to respectfully disagree. During the early years she wasn't respected because there was a fair amount of hate from journalists that felt she was to in your face with her voice and couldn't face the fact that she sang so well, wrote, and produced. The almost too perfect artist who they felt rose to fame too soon without paying her dues. They felt she got better treatment because of who she was connected to personally and professionally. Her sales aren't due to multiple fan purchases. I grew up during that time and she was always on the radio and everyone had her records. Her later hits are fairly unknown because her label didn't promote them and they usually rose to the top due to price cuts during their airplay peak as well as cleverly releasing remixes that (for the r&b and dance charts) helped boost her chart positions. They would only sit at the top for a couple weeks. I have several of those cd singles because they always included so many versions of the singles. The reason they don't respect her now is because she presents herself as "eternally 12". BTW anyone heard the song she is singing at the 2:10 mark of the Barbara interview called Mariah's new role? It sounds incredible.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 7:41)
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Music Box (39,187)
by Monark from Australia
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My favourite song from Music Box would have to be the title track. It's sung so "sweet and tenderly". That's one of my favourite aspects of her earlier work, a lyric thrown in seems to be reflective of the mood of the song. Think "heady and sublime" in Underneath The Stars.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 6:05)
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Eric the Webmaster / nail polish / really? (39,186)
by Edward from USA
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Eric, I couldn't have said it better. Nail polish, for our eleven fingers, for Christmas, really? I haven't gotten to understand what is the use of putting a single out when an album is not complete or at least ready for sequencing. At least #Beautiful brought some attention to this new era, but the benefits from that single in terms of promoting the album are fading away. Should she include #Beautiful in the new album? If it is not released before Christmas, I guess not. I don't want talks about freaking nail polish, lipstick, perfumes and so forth. What the hell happened to the freaking music?
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 6:02)
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Grammys (39,185)
by Monark from Australia
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I think with the Grammy's it's been a bit of a curse for her for a couple of reasons. I often wonder whether acceptance speech in 1991 was a litttle ... I don't know how to describe it, but I'd imagine there is plenty of politics and that you need to play the game and her acceptance speech I don't think played to expectations that a winner will be extraordinarily humble and will thank everyone they have ever met in their life. Mariah's was short and sweet and it just doesn't seem to follow the formula and I wonder whether that stays in the mind of the exec type Grammy voters throughout the rest of her career. I also think that her relationship with Tommy has something to do with that. I don't think it's a coincidence that her first huge album after leaving Sony won a number of Grammy's. It's sad to me that she has never won a record of the year. One Sweet Day, We Belong Together or album of the year. By sales alone I would have expected at least one of this big awards.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 6:00)
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Randy from USA (39,184)
by Ms. Giselle from USA
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I disagree with half of what you said. Let's go back to the 90's. Mariah was respected by the public, 90-96 especially 93-97 were huge. You couldn't find a bigger Pop star than Mariah Carey. Which is why Madonna was trying it with her around this time. The people that didn't respect her were industry people. A lot of them didn't like her type of music, her huge rise in sales and popularity. Also it was widely known that a lot of them didn't like Tommy who campaigned hard for her and they all didn't respect the fact that she married him and saw him for her success. If it were up to the public she would have won every Grammy that year lol. Her not winning in 96 was do to critics accusing them of not picking anyone outside the box and who was better outside of the ''box'' than Alanis at that time.
(Tuesday 3 September 2013; 4:09)
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Mariah's new album and the industry (39,183)
by Allan from pennsylvania
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When Mariah gave a date for her album to be released, I knew that it would change. I've seen this happen too many times before with the two previous albums Memoirs and E =MC2. So this was not a surprise to me. I see this album going in the same direction as the last album. Keep releasing singles in hope that it will be top ten, then release the album months later, but by that time anticipation has lost its steam. The music industry is forever changing. Mariah had her run in the 90s, so we can't expect her to be number one all the time. We are a different generation with a whole new crop of singers.
(Monday 2 September 2013; 23:53)
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Allan from Pennsylvania (39,182)
by Randy from USA
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There are two reasons MC is not respected by the public nor gets the Grammys, accolades and tributes she deserves. 1. Fans in the 90s had a habit of buying multiple copies of her work so no one could never tell whether or not her singles were popular or it was fans buying multiple copies to get her to #1. Don't believe me, ask a non-lamb to sing the hook to Thank God I Found You. They don't even know the song. 2. Radio programmers and industry folks got pissed when she was nearing and then surpassed Elvis and The Beatles records for weeks at #1 then total #1s (Elvis). No one want to see MC succeed but us and that is why lambs are so critical of every move she makes, because when the industry is against you, how are you supposed to be successful? We gonna push her to #1 again. Long live MC.
(Monday 2 September 2013; 20:36)
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Mariah and the Grammies (39,181)
by Allan from pennsylvania
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Everytime I think of how many Grammy Awards Mariah has makes me angry. Mariah only has five Grammies, two that she won in 1991 for her debut album and three more fifteen years later for The Emancipation Of Mimi. At that Grammy ceremony, the Grammies she won were not televised. Mariah has been robbed of so many times of Grammies. Especially at 96 Gammies when she was nominated for six and walked away empty handed. Daydream has some of her best work, why this album was ignored I don't know. The same for the Emancipation, nominated eight times, only won three. It could only be one or two reasons. Is it bad timing or do the Grammies just ignore Mariah's work, what do you think?
(Monday 2 September 2013; 19:41)
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Joachim / nail polish (39,180)
by Chase from USA
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You make some great points about #Beautiful and pop stars over 40. I think a number 15 peak is good for an artist of Mariah's age, though I believe the song deserved to go top 10. The music industry is unapologetically sexist and ageist, and few female pop artists maintain their popularity once they cross into their forties. Some of this also comes down to style. Mariah dominated in her genres (adult contemporary pop / mainstream R&B) in the 1990s, but those particular styles have shifted in popularity. She has updated her sound, and this has been both commercially successful (The Emancipation of Mimi) and unsuccessful (Memoirs). You mentioned Madonna's extraordinary ticket sales. Many artists over 40 continue to thrive in the industry by touring constantly. Because Mariah is not known as a performer (and often appears uncomfortable on stage), her growing assortment of commercial products (perfumes, holiday nail polish) probably keeps the checks rolling in as album sales continue to dwindle.
(Monday 2 September 2013; 18:24)
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Joanne and new abum (39,179)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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I'm glad to find someone who enjoys them too. Regarding her next album, I do think she postponed it because she has issues with her label. She may release something (not a new album) by the end of the year, but only to fullfill her contract and then leave for Sony and put out her new album.
(Monday 2 September 2013; 16:37)
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Katy Perry, Lady Gaga (39,178)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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I think the reason why Katy Perry and Lady Gaga go straight to the top 5, is because they are popular. They are still in the stage of their [...] where they can put out almost anything, and it will top the [...]. Mariah did that too, honestly, is Thank God I Found You a number one hit? If Mariah wasn't singing, I don't think anyone would have heard that song. There's a shift in female pop stars these days I think. And if you think of it, has any female passed 40 ever stayed really popular? They may have a hit or two between failures, but it's always the [...] stars that shines the brightest. It's like that in every business. Even Madonna have difficulties with chart performance these days, even though she can sell out the tickets for a concert at Yankee stadium twice in 20 minutes. I don't think Mariah could do that, but then again, she can in Asia. So, I am really happy for #Beautiful and that it reached #15 on Hot 100, it proves that she can still make a hit, and I actually think that would have been enough for [...] to buy the album. Remember, Mariah was voted on Billboard to be the most wanted artist to release a [...] album, I think it would have sold plenty just because she is Mariah. I'm so glad Billboard reminded me of Music Box, now I listen to Everything Fades Away all the time.
(Monday 2 September 2013; 16:20)
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