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Ariana (96,851) by RoRo from PH First verse she looked shy/bored but that did a full 180 when they switched spots for the climax. You could see the glee in her eyes trading lines with her long-time idol. This was to me kind of reminiscent with Mariah being able to duet with Aretha on Divas Live back in the day. After the harmonized whistles, Ariana did cute little jumps. So adorable. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 11:52)

Re: Rumour has it (96,837) (96,850) by RoRo from PH Mariah was clearly having a good time in the video, I don't think she'd have issues actually shooting it with them physically. I mean, she invited them to re-record it to begin with. I get COVID obviously is a factor but not really buying into the whole "she only agreed to do it if she was shot separately" thing. Sounds like early 2000s tabloid fodder lol. Also, she actually touched JHud, that would look super shady if that was digital editing. And like someone else said, the eye contact between her and Ariana would have been an editing nightmare. But who knows, right? (Unless maybe there are receipts?) Also possible they're holding back on photos for subsequent promotion in the next few days/weeks? (Sunday 6 December 2020; 11:48)

Re: 20th #1? (96,841) (96,849) by TJ from Norway No. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 10:33)

Re: Signal to MC (96,842) (96,848) by TJ from Norway And the big question is: Why is it like this? Why isn't the record company supporting her projects like back in the days? (Sunday 6 December 2020; 10:32)

I'm back (96,847) by . from . I've been a "lurker" here for a while due to - Mr Andrew - yes, because I couldn't stand being abused by a supposed person. Even though I have been here since 2002. And even though I actually had the most liked comments here. I tried to make a better moment for us, Andrew, which you (dis)respectfully ended. So let me clarify. You called me "old Anthony" whilst I am younger than you. You also said my husband left me? Wrong. I left her. Not that it's any of your business but she is now choosing to take control of her own life. But was I "dumped"? No. For the board - all I said about this individual is that he sounds like a crazed entity as he often does. I've also been diagnosed as aspergers. Please, make fun of me some more or claim I'm less worth listening to. I confided in someone who was so vile but I've had my diagnosis that I "wasn't right". In that baby girl voice. You don't care but now neither do I. Oh, and btw, I'm younger than you. I tried to make up with you. You smurfed me over but no worries. Merry Christmas sweetie. Try and out do me and I will destroy you. Merry Christmas my love. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 04:36)

Re: Signal to MC (96,842) (96,846) by T from USA She's being managed by Roc Nation, why can't Jay get a good Beyonce duet happening? There are ways around the ageism and label constraints. Mariah is so much more than just Christmas music but I'm afraid that is all she will become. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 01:45)

Re: 20th #1? (96,841) (96,845) by Bobby A from United States I think it will make it to number #1. It has been number one on iTunes since yesterday. I heard it on V103 radio in Atlanta this morning. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 01:40)

Where's Ari? (96,844) by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia I just love how Mariah said it. How I wish Mariah would donned a ponytail though. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 01:01)

Re: 20th #1? (96,841) (96,843) by Aliya from Canada From what I see, Oh Santa. is #1 on iTunes in Canada. And #2 is All I Want for Christmas is You. She is dominating. (Sunday 6 December 2020; 00:58)

Re: Signal to MC (96,836) (96,842) by 123 from USA Mariah is well aware that working with artists of the day will help her chart. Anyone with a brain knows this. What people have failed to notice is, unless it's a Christmas project, the label ain't paying for an A list top tier artist to appear on her albums. They wouldn't pay for Cardi to jump on A No No. if you notice, Epic has only put money into anything Christmas related. They pull out all the stops and pour money and marketing into it because they have proven, guaranteed monetary returns. Caution was the first album that Mariah got an embarrassing low amount of support from the label and their budget for radio was restricted to AC stations only (no other radio formats were sent With You to even have the option to play) or Urban AC for A No No months after the project was released and already lost any kind of possible momentum. Had they put the money in and sent GTFO to all formats it would have made a splash and peaked interested because it was quite shocking to hear Mariah use a cuss word in a chorus and yet sound so good. I have a sneaking suspicion that either A, Ariana was a second choice to Kelly Clarkson who may have pulled out because of scheduling conflicts or B, because attaching her to a Christmas song was the only way the label would cough up money to pay for both Ariana and JHud and also get Apple TV to fund the video/performance. Not sure if this is a strategy for Mariah to prove to the label that if they pay for top tier collaborations, that they will make a nice profit in return. I'm hoping she gets success off this collaboration so that the label starts giving her the budget she needs for her next project, especially when it comes to radio promo and marketing. Mariah is not a streaming artist and needs to be played and pushed on major radio formats to see any type of future success along with a high profile feature. All she needs is one hit to get the funding and backing from the label that she deserves. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 23:58)

20th #1? (96,841) by Lady B from USA Do you think Oh Santa remix will reach #1? Anyone know how it is tracking? (Saturday 5 December 2020; 21:50)

The special (96,840) by Kyle Anthony from United States I was expecting to enjoy it as a fan, but got so much more out of this special. I forced a lot of friends and family to watch it with me at midnight, from our separate quarantine caves. Not only did they love the special, most of them had emotional responses to it. My mom bawled like a baby. Andrew's post was spot on, the quality was impeccable. Everything looked and sounded great. Also have to agree about Sleigh Ride: camp perfection. The new vocals and tweaked arrangements were shockingly good. Mariah's rested voice is honestly the best part of 2020. I've been listening on repeat out of enjoyment, not duty. Highlights for me: 1) Sleigh Ride 2) O Holy Night - I thought Mariah's original was perfect. The updated version is even better. 3) Oh Santa - We all knew that harmonic whistle was coming, and it didn't disappoint. Bliss. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 20:40)

Re: Signal to MC (96,836) (96,839) by Stacey from USA Best post of the day award goes to you. Exactly. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 19:47)

Re: High note harmonies (96,833) (96,838) by Stacey from USA I think I prefer this new 2020 version better than 2010. I have always been indifferent to Oh Santa. It don't hate it but I don't jump to it either. The addition of Ari and J-Hud adds a nice depth, more texture to a pretty straightforward song. Well done MC. And yes, those high note harmonies are perfection. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 19:46)

Rumour has it (96,837) by T from USA Has anyone else read the rumours that the girls didn't film Oh Santa together and that's why there are no pics of the tree [sic] of them together (like Snoop and JD) and no official single cover photo. Rumour is that Mariah only agreed to do it if it was shot separately from Ari and JHud. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 19:23)

Signal to MC (96,836) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago The success of the Oh Sants remix in just one day should send a clear signal to Mariah that she needs to work with the younger popular *female* artists. Would love to see Gaga, Katy Perry and whoever else she can tolerate and obviously who she "knows". (Saturday 5 December 2020; 17:13)

Re: High note harmonies (96,833) (96,835) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago And the views it's racking up is staggering. I think I check every few minutes and it goes up by 100k. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 17:09)

Jonas Kaufmann (96,834) by Geri551 from UK Jonas Kaufmann, the world's most popular living tenor, is the latest performer to record All I Want For Christmas Is You for his new Christmas album. It's an interesting rendition, by no means my favourite version, but it is a testament to the extraordinary genre crossing impact of this song. I know Mariah can't really see beyond or function outside of the R&B/Hip Hop world that is her comfort zone, but as she and her team explore further ways to exploit this song and cement her legacy and cross genre appeal in the years to come (especially in a huge market like Germany and Central Europe where Kaufmann is a huge star on a par if not surpassing Mariah), some form of collaboration may be an interesting idea. I'd love Mariah to do a concert like the Christmas in Vienna special that Diana Ross did in the 90s, recasting her Christmas albums in a live setting with an orchestra. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 13:27)

High note harmonies (96,833) by Terna from Nigeria Sounds kinda catchy doesn't it? Lol. Anyways, this new version of "Oh Santa" has become my favorite and that's saying a lot because I love (all caps) the original version from 2010. The new solo high note run Mariah does on this version is just sheer power, and those harmonies with Ariana just wow. Who is singing what on that harmonized section though they sound so identical. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 12:42)

Re: Oh Holy Night Apple TV (96,826) (96,832) by Bobby A from United States The queen of Christmas reigns again. The special is pure perfection. And Oh Santa is just what I needed yesterday. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 11:30)

New recordings - Ariana bores me (96,831) by Geronimo from USA I really enjoyed the medley, even though Hero is far from my favorite song. I'm really appreciating her approach to texture and timing toward the end. "Oh Santa" is a pretty trite song, in my opinion. I'm glad Jennifer Hudson figured out how to slow the melody down just to give some shape to a melody on the verse. But that song really highlights how boring a singer Ariana Grande is - not because I don't think she can do "more" on a track of her own, but because outside of her discount version of Mariah idiosyncrasies, she just doesn't have much to offer except professional skill. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 08:04)

Re: Oh Santa! collaboration (96,804) (96,830) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Yup, that whistle on the original version has always bugged me. As for Ari's vocals, to be fair, if you listened to her last 3 albums, especially her most recent one, she has adopted an overall softer approach to singing (probably for vocal preservation). That hushed, close-to-the-mic vocal made up about 80% of Positions. Yes, she may have been instructed to sing softly for Oh Santa., but she did hear the original, so that alone should have given her a good idea of just how lively she should have done things. Plus, even if she has a powerful, agile belted voice, by nature it just doesn't have the same heft and natural volume that Mariah's voice has, let alone JHud's. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 05:33)

Re: Oh Santa! collab (96,822) (96,829) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Exactly. Considering how much many dreaded this to be a cut and paste version of Mariah's 2010 vocals with a little Jennifer and Ariana added in, what we actually got is a huge relief. Oh Santa has always felt like a girl group track and I believe that it does manage to sound like that with this new version. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 05:20)

Magical Christmas (96,828) by Jono from USA I guess all the memes and jokes about Mariah Carey "defrosting" every December to collect her yearly check is true, considering this is the most she's moved in years. In all seriousness, this was a cute and fun special, and just the right amount of camp. Loved that she reworked the songs so we weren't just getting rehashed vocals. "Sleigh Ride" was absolutely fabulous. Wished the overall special was a little longer as the storyline felt a little rushed, but I'm assuming the pandemic restricted what could be done. After a long and challenging year, having this sort of escapism was nice. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 01:42)

Mariah has made my Christmas (96,827) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada The special was adorable start to finish. The camp was so much fun. If you can't be silly at Christmas there's something wrong. Mariah poked fun at herself and it was great. I've never watched an Apple production I have not been impressed with. This is top notch. I love the Oh Santa remix. I understand some won't like it, but I truly feel it was well done by all. J Hud brought her style. The Supremes thing is cute. Those whistle notes being in harmony were such a nice display of mutual respect. Life is short, enjoy it. Merry Christmas everyone. (Saturday 5 December 2020; 00:54)

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