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Re: Caution album (94,453) (94,456) by Bobby A from United States
Oh, okay. But didn't Edward or Bill give the whole Caution/Bruan/Stella synopsis song by song last year? Where are you Edward or Bill? I need some help.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 22:18)
Re: Superlatives (94,452) (94,455) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
There we go.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 21:47)
Re: Great documentary (94,451) (94,454) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Lovely. The "I'm wrong and I lost but I'm better than this." Should be followed with immediate response to something else to show you just don't care.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 21:47)
Re: Caution album (94,448) (94,453) by RibbonB from USA
I meant Licia on my post, not Lucia.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 20:37)
Re: Superlatives (94,433) (94,452) by Bill from the UK
I love this. I would have Daydream as Best Dressed though, her outfits were great during that era. She always looked like the flotus.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 19:35)
Re: Great documentary (94,450) (94,451) by Bill from the UK
TLDR. I really have better things to do. You win I lose.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 19:31)
Re: Great documentary (94,449) (94,450) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"I'll accept the possibility Mariah was uncomfortable if you can accept the possibility that she wasn't."

I am currently lying in a park sunbathing. As I look across the luscious green grass I see children running and playing each other in the glorious sunshine, smiling, laughing, giggling. Now I could accept the possibility that they are not happy, that they are visibly displaying emotions that they are not feeling. I cannot read their minds, as I am equally unable to read Mariah's mind on that stage at the Academy Awards over twenty years ago. But, on the balance of probabilities, given the simple truths on show, I think it reasonably and objectively safe to say that they are enjoying themselves. As it is possibly safe to say Mariah was more uncomfortable than not.

"And I really have no feelings either way. I'm just calling out nonsense and fabrications from delusional fans."

Before you "call people out" (I dislike this turn of phrase) pay close attention to detail lest you look foolish. As an example, contradicting Terna who (quite rightly) pointed out that Whitney was singing Mariah's part in places was a mistake.

Oh, William, wilt thou ever love me, again?
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 17:23)
Re: Great documentary (94,445) (94,449) by Bill from the UK
I'll accept the possibility Mariah was uncomfortable if you can accept the possibility that she wasn't.

And I really have no feelings either way. I'm just calling out nonsense and fabrications from delusional fans.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:26)
Re: Caution album (94,438) (94,448) by RibbonB from USA
Cool. Robert Anthony, did you watch 8:46 by Dave Chappell? Mesmerizing. We gotta shake Lucia Same to get her take on it too. If you haven't seen it, it's on YouTube.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:15)
Re: With You (94,439) (94,447) by PresidentJesus from Germany
It's definitely a great track, kind of timeless even and yes, sensual.
Too bad fans came to expect the next #1 yet again and were disappointed when it was neither the big 90s ballad nor the pop banger we always seem to long for.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 16:12)
Re: Superlatives (94,433) (94,446) by RibbonB from USA
Cute list.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 15:33)
Re: Great documentary (94,443) (94,445) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Your humour washes over me, and your sugar never ever was that sweet. Hah.

A comical assertion about Mariah seeing Whitney off her nut about to go on stage and thinking "for [censored] sake" does not a genuine theory make.

However, Whitney was a severe drug addict and has admitted to regularly going on stage off her nut. It is extremely arguable and beyond plausible that that is what happened here due to her demeanour, lack of control and disrespect for her dueting partner. The vocal is unpleasantly aggressive and Mariah clearly looks uncomfortable. Now, let us examine. Shall we?

Is Mariah uncomfortable with her hair, do you think? Is she uncomfortable with the stage lighting, maybe? Has she seen into the future and has predicted Joan Rivers calling her fat, perhaps? Is she upset with who won best animated short that year having studied up on the nominees? Or is it possible - just a smidgen possible - that Mariah is uncomfortable with the woman awkwardly standing next to her barking into the microphone and singing the song in an unpredictable way making it sound like a hot mess?

Your denial of things which appear evident because it hurts your feels and your skewing of the argument into something it is not is typical of some of the delulons on here. Come now, William. You're better than this.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 14:35)
Re: With You (94,439) (94,444) by ktktkt from Philippines
I agree. Now I understand what "ahead of its time" means. Like most of MC's underrated songs.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 13:37)
Re: Great documentary (94,442) (94,443) by Bill from the UK
Whitney giving a sub par performance does not your point make. No evidence presented other than a fan theory, that you often call others out for. Come on Andrew.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 13:08)
Re: Great documentary (94,441) (94,442) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"Your only proof of this is a fantasy about what happened backstage and a look on Mariah's face that can (clearly, as we both see it differently) be interpreted in either way. So no."

I said clearly it was conjecture. I was trying to ascertain what was going on. It is evident to many people that Whitney was not behaving properly and the resultant performance was a hot mess with Whitney not singing the song as expected and Mariah clearly looking uncomfortable.

So no to you. That's a no no. Parlez-vous français? I can say it on Espagnol. I said nooooooo.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 11:13)
Re: Great documentary (94,437) (94,441) by Bill from the UK
Your only proof of this is a fantasy about what happened backstage and a look on Mariah's face that can (clearly, as we both see it differently) be interpreted in either way. So no.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 10:23)
Re: Nick saga (94,412) (94,440) by Nikki from usa
Actually, their prenup guaranteed Nick a cool 10 million in case of a divorce. He's marrying someone in a much higher tax bracket than himself and marrying her would change his lifestyle. By getting him to agree to a settlement before the marriage would prevent him from demanding half in a divorce. The stipulation was they'd keep their own stuff, liquidate and divide up the assets they accrued during marriage, and return each other's gifts.

In the actual divorce, Nick promised to put X amount of dollars into a college fund for the kids while Mariah agreed to pay for all travel and accommodations for Nick and his mom to be present at all holidays plus birthday parties for the twins. That's why there's no spousal or child support. They both seem to be parenting well and taking good care of the twins otherwise.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 09:22)
With You (94,439) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Sounds like Mariah recorded a new version of With You in her home. I like it. It sounds like a live version. But the original cannot be beaten.

The original With You has slowly become one of my favourite Mariah Carey songs of all time. It is one of the most sensual songs I have ever heard, at once both exciting and calming. Truly I believe in ten years when people lol back to Caution, With You will be declared a missed masterpiece.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 03:30)
Re: Caution album (94,432) (94,438) by Bobby A from United States
I guess I am going to have to agree with you, Ribbon. I like your straightfoward contribution to the board. You keep us all grounded to the real facts and not speculation.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 01:56)
Re: Great documentary (94,428) (94,437) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
William has this wrong and I suspect he is trying to not imagine such a focal moment as Mariah's Academy performance as anything less that great. But it is clear on Mariah's face that she is uncomfortable with the unpredictability of what the hell is going on. It is a sonorous disaster.

I am not one for conjecture; I like facts. But there is something in me that says they met up backstage, just before they went on, and Mariah looked at Whitney and thought: "Oh, f**k."
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 01:39)
Re: Caution album (94,429) (94,436) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Whilst sunbathing today I played the "Mariah Upbeat" playlist I have on Spotify. The last 2 songs are You Don't Know What To Do followed by A No No. The latter is good but the former is immensely fun. The next album should absolutely be upbeat - and not "club" upbeat, "party at the beach" upbeat. I swear I don't need any more rappers to spit shite about how much money they have, what brand of anything they are drinking and what bitch they plan on doing that night. The rap in You Don't Know What To Do is really weird but totally brilliant.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 01:35)
Re: Mortified (94,430) (94,435) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
"I was at a convenience store at 1:30 AM this morning buying a sandwich, cool ranch Doritos, a honey bun, a sugar free Red Bull and a Diet Dr. Pepper. I swear I am going somewhere with this."

It certainly didn't go where *I* thought it was going. Did anyone else think Randy was buying a quick feed for the guy he had chained in his basement and the Red Bull was so he could make it through night?

No? Just me? We_are_lambily I may need the number of a therapist. You must surely have a few. Be a good girl and ping one over.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 01:29)
Re: Mortified (94,434) by Jeff from USA
Randy, your post literally made me laugh out loud. Thanks for making my day.
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 00:59)
Superlatives (94,433) by Jeff from USA
I'm feeling nostalgic today. Will anyone join me in a good list challenge? I'm thinking about high school superlatives from wayyyy back in my high school days. What do you think?

Mariah Carey - most likely to become famous
Emotions - most likely to succeed
Music Box - best shoulder to cry on
Merry Christmas - most popular
Daydream - best all around
Butterfly - most artistic
Rainbow - life of the party
Glitter - best throwback style
Charmbracelet - most changed
The Emancipation of Mimi - most ambitious
E=MC2 - best sense of humor
Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel - class beauty
Merry Christmas II You - cutest couple
Me. I am Mariah... the Elusive Chanteuse - best nickname
Caution - most school spirit
(Tuesday 23 June 2020; 00:18)
Re: Caution album (94,431) (94,432) by RibbonB from USA
In your opinion, but certainly not in fact.
(Monday 22 June 2020; 23:43)

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