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Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,760) (93,762) by Bill from the UK The point that is being made by others though, is she's tilting her head and it's not really that big a deal. Let's move on. (Friday 24 April 2020; 13:56)

Re: Right knee (93,757) (93,761) by Andrew from the United Kingdom That's not how Britney got scars on her knees. (Friday 24 April 2020; 12:21)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,755) (93,760) by Andrew from the United Kingdom The examples given are hardly what I am talking about, and I suspect that those who would support the examples know this. Holding your head in an alternative position for the purposes of a pose (especially for professional photography as guided by a professional photographer) is not the same thing. Rather than post pictures of my own examples you can just go back through recent news articles posted here and some of the photographs that Eric has used to accompany them (e.g. the article, "Mariah has a chaise longue in her kitchen"). If you really tell me that you cannot see the difference in what is physically happening between Mariah turning her chin to (approaching a) 90 degree angle in order to stretch the skin and appear thinner and her tilting her head back in poses for (mostly) professional photographs, and that you cannot attribute the obvious reason as to why it is happening, then arguing this would be like arguing science to a religious zealot. You likely believe what you want to believe because you want to believe it and manipulate evidence to fit the narrative. As the old adage would go: "You can win an argument against a liberal, but you cannot convince him/her that you've won". In this case, and many cases, I would just replace the word "liberal" with "lamb'" Or, simply put, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." Meanwhile back at the ranch... (Friday 24 April 2020; 12:20)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,755) (93,759) by MusicfanJ from Germany Of course. Here's one. (Friday 24 April 2020; 11:58)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,755) (93,758) by The Real Deal from USA An example. This is from a 1990 photo shoot. (Friday 24 April 2020; 07:31)

Re: Right knee (93,753) (93,757) by Dennis from Miami, FL Another fact. Britney has scars on both of her knees. Haave they been to the same suge... school? (Friday 24 April 2020; 03:48)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,755) (93,756) by Aliya from Canada Foto 1 and foto 2. (Friday 24 April 2020; 02:46)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,751) (93,755) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Can you post links to these photos where she is doing the same thing? I cant find any. (Friday 24 April 2020; 00:25)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,751) (93,754) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yup she did that pose since day one in front of the public eye. You don't have to like it, for me it's not a big deal. I'm just happy if there are real clothes. Lol. Because I'm so tired of too much skin. MC with casual clothes is something I like. And a pic with tea can't be wrong. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 22:22)

Re: Right knee (93,749) (93,753) by RibbonB from USA Doing a reverse triple axle off a parallel bar in high school. How'd you miss that fun fact? (Thursday 23 April 2020; 22:02)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,748) (93,752) by Aliya from Canada She tilted her head in pictures even before she gained weight. For example, many images from 2008 even. Or the Glitter album cover. Or the music video for "My Love". She thinks she looks the best from that angle. Really, there are worse things a person can do. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 21:03)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,748) (93,751) by Bill from the UK Head over to Mariah Network, check out the gallery, pick the early years. Literally every photoshoot she ever did has her tilting her head back in at least one shot. Come on now, I know you're a harsh critic who cares deeply about her, but keep it to her music and career choices and not her appearance. If she's self conscious of her weight let's not pull her up on it. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 20:56)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,746) (93,750) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Well no one is actually excusing her laziness. It's just looking at it as, well, things could actually still be much worse. Everyone would like her to work out more, but since she isn't, then the head tilting, while annoying, is definitely something that we're more inclined to allow rather than her going the extreme Lil' Kim route and entrusting everything to doctors. Mariah's blessed with great genes, and exercise aside, she has taken care of her apperance to better results than many celebrities of her age, who have aged worse. If she hadn't, then who knows what she would be resorting to these days that's worse than a head tilt. We can only hope that someday she would pay the same attention she does to her face to her body as well, before things go from a mere issue of aesthetics to a health issue. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 20:46)

Right knee (93,749) by Pau from Mexico Hi. Anyone knows how Mariah got the scar she has over her right knee? (Thursday 23 April 2020; 20:24)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,747) (93,748) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I googled "Mariah Carey 1991" and hit Images to look for the head tilt. Nothing. I then did "Mariah Carey 1992" and so on. Nothing. Even from my own memory she has never done anything as ridiculous as this. It's not just moving her head to the side or dropping it for a sultry pose, it's an extreme head tilt and a twisting of the chin so the neck and chin skin is stretched. I can't even believe I am debating this. Or perhaps I can. She keeps doing this really ridiculous pose that nobody famous has ever done ever in the history of the world and it's simply done to tighten the skin and make her look thinner. This is quite evident. It looks ridiculous. And rather than telling her "Stop it" people would excuse it. This is why I would be an awesome manager for her. I wouldn't enable nonsense. Oh, I know, I know, I'm such a hayyytuh. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 20:10)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,743) (93,747) by Bill from the UK Well I'd respectfully challenge that and say there are a plethora of pictures from the pre-divorce years (both first and second) where she is tilting her head. Meaning, when she was a lot younger and weight maintenance wasn't an issue like it is for us oldies. I think it's either how she was coaxed to pose back when she starting having professional photographs taken, or she genuinely believes she looks good. Who hasn't re-taken a selfie or begged a friend to delete a picture taken because you thought you looked awful? And when the rubber hits the road, she's tilting her head. I mean there are worse things she could do surely. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 18:53)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,745) (93,746) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Let me translate and make briefer your post: Whereas J.Lo and Jennifer Aniston work hard to look good, Mariah is lazy so relies upon weird head tilts (that make her look like she's standing on a magnet with one earring in). Nothing disputed there. But the fact that she has not succumbed to elective surgeries that have drastically altered her face does not excuse the laziness and weird head tilting. It's a bit ad absurdum to invoke a kind of moral relativism along the lines of "I did punch someone which is bad, but I didn't kill them, so it's less bad than you originally thought". For the life of me I don't understand why she just doesn't work out and eat well. She has a gym in her house and her boyfriend could probably train her with his eyes closed. But if not, please Mariah, just either stop standing on the magnet, or take the earring out. You look, as we would say in England, daft. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 17:56)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,739) (93,745) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines If the last decade has taught us anything, it's that the only reason for Mariah to be motivated enough to slim down is if she's gearing up for an album release or a major, prolonged TV gig. In between those, she does anything she wants. At her age, it's more challenging for her to maintain a trimmer figure, and since she doesn't have the drive and discipline to focus on her fitness ala J.Lo or Jennifer Aniston, she's left with no choice but to rely on fad diets, contouring, posing in weird angles and other ways to achieve the illusion of a slimmer profile in photos. After all, those are much easier than physical activities, which we all know are a chore for her. Whatever works for her, I guess. Despite her weight struggles, she still looks healthy, has great skin and hair, and despite any other enhancements and procedures she undergoes, I'm glad she still hasn't fallen victim to the worst beauty trends in recent years - the overly botoxed look (as evinced by abnormally prominent cheekbones) and unnecessary lip fillers (the unnaturally perpetual bee-stung look) that younger artists have been doing lately such as Jessica Simpson and Christina Aguilera, respectively. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 16:12)

Unforgettable (Mariah Carey version) (93,744) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Been listening to this in the sun all morning and I do agree this should have been on Caution - perhaps after GTFO and before With You. I am a tad annoyed by it though (when I am ever not?): Mariah is not in it nearly enough as she should be. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 15:10)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,742) (93,743) by Andrew from the United Kingdom If the head tilt "works"? It depends what you think "working" is? What does it achieve? We know that in almost every photo for three years people around her are facing the camera and Mariah has her head lolling to one side like she's had a stroke. So what does it achieve? If the suggestion is it's because of the supposed "good" side of her face then that's not really arguable. She never used to do it and in many of the photos she is facing right side on so there is no need. It is clearly to stretch out the double chin. So what's better? To have a bit of a chin in photos? Or to rotate your head until you look like Upside-down Face from Family Guy? Or is it secret option number 3? Lose weight and hold your head up like a human being? I think the answer here is a tad too obvious. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 15:09)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,741) (93,742) by Bill from the UK Yes I tend to agree. When a picture is taken of Mariah Carey, it's there forever. It's not like you and me where we can delete them or rip them up (for those of us that remember physical photographs). If the head tilt works then tilt that head beeyotch. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 10:14)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,739) (93,741) by Aliya from Canada I'm not sure if it's a weight thing. But she definitely thinks she looks the best from that angle. I remember her saying a lot about her "good side" and "bad side" when taking photos, and also the lighting. I guess everyone wants to look good in any photos they are in. A little odd, but I get it. Whatever makes her feel good. She's beautiful regardless of the angle. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 04:22)

Never Have I Ever (93,740) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Mariah is mentioned in the new Netflix programme Never Have I Ever trailer. Girl tries to hit on a boy and says "You smell great today." "It's Forever by Mariah Carey," replies the obviously gay boy. It was actually quite funny. (Thursday 23 April 2020; 00:08)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,738) (93,739) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It's obviously not a selfie and judging from the angle it was taken by Tanaka. It appears to be staged. Her make-up is so heavy and her nails are perfect. Does somebody in quarantine for a month really go to all this effort? Also the photo is irritating for the main reason that all Mariah photos are irritating post 2017: the head tilt. I think I would rather lose weight than have every photo of me with my face at a 90 degree angle. Even in photos of Mariah with other people she does it. Does she look at these images later and think, "Wow this head tilting thing really looks good"? If it were a toss up between losing weight and looking like I was trying to bite my left ear off in every photo I think I would just lose weight. Or accept being overweight and forget about it. The head tilt thing is actually weird. No, it's beyond weird. Just one person tell me it looks normal/good with substantial reasoning. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 23:59)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,734) (93,738) by TJ from Norway Is it a selfie if someone else took the picture? Don't like the picture, but that's my opinion. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 20:30)

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