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Re: Listening to Glitter (93,735) (93,737) by MusicfanJ from Germany What a great post Nick. I completely agree with everything you wrote. "I hope she stays classy as her younger self, with the confidence of her older self. Those two Mariahs combined can make her still the best until the end of time." So true. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 17:30)

Re: Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,734) (93,736) by MusicfanJ from Germany I thought the same. Beautiful and very youthful. Music Box vibes, I love it. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 17:26)

Re: Listening to Glitter (93,716) (93,735) by Nick from Belgium You have a very good point Joachim. An sich was Glitter (the album) not that bad. The songs by itself were also fine, maybe as in whole not that cohesive as the Daydream album (which is my all time favorite). Here in Belgium she was never that popular by the public opinion. She get lots of disrespect by her reputation and her (too) sexy/trashy clothing style. I remember when it was 2001 and Loverboy came out. The video was few times a day on the popular tv-channels like MTV. It was embarrassing to watch, especially when my parents walked in the room. It was indeed way too sexy or as you said it: trashy. This was not the classy Mariah we knew. Honey and The Roof were a perfect example of a decent sexy Mariah. But the "girl-next-door" look from the Daydream era is my favorite. Mariah didn't need to be "sexy to sell", she had proven the past decade more times that you can sell music without showing her body. I know that she wasn't allowed by Tommy Mottola, but the point is that it worked like that. It's the voice that counts, not the looks. The best promotional line from the comeback campagne in 2005 was: "The return of the voice" with her silhouet above it. That worked perfectly. And for last: look at her live show in the early until middle '90s and you see what I mean. Just Mariah, a live band, backing vocals and sometimes a choir. It was heaven. Only music and her voice. The audience at that time were the luckiest fans of Mariah in my honest opinion. Her shows were perfect like that. It's perfectly fine to reinvent yourself to maintain relevant, but she didn't do it always right. I hope she stays classy as her younger self, with the confidence of her older self. Those two Mariahs combined can make her still the best until the end of time. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 13:47)

Article: Mariah Carey shares kitchen selfie holding two kettles (93,734) by Nick from Belgium In this picture she looks like her younger self, like in the "Music Box" era. Classic Mariah. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 13:19)

Allure and more (93,733) by Billy from Greece First things first, "The Wind" is gorgeous. The meticulousness of her delivery is astounding, without being gratuitous or blasé. Second, I'm obsessed with Allure's "All Cried Out" and "Last Chance". The magic of Mariah's musicality at the point was the ambiance that she could create with the harmonies, instrumentals and structure of her songs, both of her solo discography and in side projects such as this (or Babyface's "Everytime I Close My Eyes", or 7Mile's "After"). It's too bad her creative relationship with Mark C. Rooney went south because together they created a sound that fit her like a glove (as shown also on the Butterfly tracks he co-produced). Too bad he chose the cheap way to go. Coming back to "Last Chance", this is actually the perfect transitional Mariah ballad between "Daydream" and "Butterfly". It could fit into either album as hidden track for instance. It's amazing how the tiny parts of her melismas and backgrounds steal the show everytime. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 11:43)

Re: Emotions album (93,731) (93,732) by Bill from the UK That version of To Be Around You was atrocious. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 10:45)

Re: Emotions album (93,729) (93,731) by The Real Deal from USA I don't like "The Wind" either. I think "Til The End Of Time" is a perfect closer. I pretend that "The Wind" is a bonus track lol. On another note, I always wanted "To Be Around You" to be a single and was pleasantly surprised when singer Lovari put out a remake of it a few years ago with remixes. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 05:41)

Re: Emotions album (93,724) (93,730) by Licia from USA When I listened to The Wind that one time it was super sad and depressed me. I was 13 or 14 years old when Emotions came out so maybe my age and hormones at that time played a huge factor in why I couldn't take that song. I have been trying to force myself for years to revisit the song, but I won't do it. It's so weird that after all these years I won't go near The Wind but I listen to sad and depressing songs all the time. Lol. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 03:54)

Re: Emotions album (93,728) (93,729) by Edward from USA I love "The Wind", but it is one of those songs you play when you're in a certain mood because it is sad. I usually play it followed by "Angel" by Sarah McLachlan and "Fields of Gold" by Eva Cassidy. It's hard to believe a 20-year old Mariah is singing that song. (Wednesday 22 April 2020; 01:12)

Re: Emotions album (93,720) (93,728) by Pablo from Spain I thought I was the only Mariah fan who just didn't like "The Wind". I'm glad to know there's another one out there. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 21:27)

Re: Emotions album (93,720) - TTEOT (93,722) (93,727) by Edward from USA Wow, it seems like it was yesterday, Andrew. I hope Martyn is having a ball wherever he is. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 20:44)

Re: Emotions album (93,724) (93,726) by MusicfanJ from Germany I also love "the Wind" and recommend it. Please try it again Licia. When I listened to Emotions for the first time I didn't like it too. For me it just didn't sound like a "Mariah song". But since quite a long time I started to love the song. I love her jazz voice, the lyrics and the whole instrumental. But it's true it's not easy to listen to for every day. A little depressing because of the "theme", but "The Wind" is really such a great and emotional song. That Mariah was able to sing it like she did at such a young age makes it even more precious. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 20:27)

Re: MC appears to levitate off invisible chair (93,721) (93,725) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines This happens to be the same woman who needs assistance teetering on heels from one corner to another. She therefore doesn't do mobility. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 19:21)

Re: Emotions album (93,720) (93,724) by Bill from the UK Haha. Oh Licia. I was confident you'd "get" The Roof when you gave it another shot not that long ago, but alas, it wasn't to be. Would you try The Wind again? She sings it so softly and gently, and it's so moving and sad. I love the jazz vibe, and why she's never done anything like it since is beyond me. It's a real unique number in her catalogue. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 19:15)

Re: MC appears to levitate off invisible chair (93,721) (93,723) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I don't do stairs, I don't do chairs I didn't [censored] Packer, I don't do bears I will not eat green eggs and ham But I do like lamb, Mariah I am (I may be losing it) (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 16:12)

Re: Emotions album (93,720) - TTEOT (93,722) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You just reminded me of this version of Till The End Of Time and we are exactly 1 month away from the 3 year anniversary. I suppose it's good to have timeless songs like this which remind us of the far-too-fast passage of it. I do, though, now, find the song a bit difficult to listen to. He'd be 32 years old now, Martyn. You rest in peace, lad. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 16:07)

MC appears to levitate off invisible chair (93,721) by tadatorao from japan She doesn't do stairs. She doesn't do chairs. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 14:13)

Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,720) by Licia from USA Bill I freaking love TTEOT. It has one of my favorite bridges. So you don't have to cyber fight me. That's one of the 3 Mariah songs I actually like. Lol. The Wind is another story though. That's the only song on Emotions I've listened to once and never again. I can't listen to it. (Tuesday 21 April 2020; 05:30)

Y'all gotta hear this (93,719) by Edouard from France I rediscovered this song today. I love, love, love the original. the production still sounds so cool but this version is awesome and allows us to hear Mariah's vocals in a more prominent way. Enjoy. PS Is it me or are there addlibs not featured on the original bridge? (Monday 20 April 2020; 23:37)

Re: Listening to Glitter (93,716) (93,718) by Bill from the UK The Loverboy video is one of my faves. I love the bright colours and the cars and the flags. All against the backdrop of that sapphire blue sky. It looks amazing. Each shot is a postcard. (Monday 20 April 2020; 22:32)

Re: Emotions album (93,715) (93,717) by Bill from the UK Hmmm. I suppose the C&C tracks haven't aged that well, as they were a victim of their early 90s production standards. The ballads however I think have never sounded so organic and spacious. They really open up and let Mariah's voice be front and centre, and create a wonderful atmospheric mood. Music Box is much more finely tuned, perhaps a bit too much. But we love all the albums. (Monday 20 April 2020; 17:41)

Listening to Glitter (93,716) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Lately I have found myself listening a lot to Glitter, I actually love Loverboy. But I think Mariah's image was the reason the project tanked. I think Mariah thought that being sexy is what sells in the music buisness. During the Butterfly era Mariah was classy sexy, and I really love how she looked, dark hair, dark sexy clothes, smoked eyes, she was genuine but sexy. But something went wrong during the Rainbow era, Mariah seemed to just wanting show her boobs and legs, and music came second. She was cheesy sexy, her reputation went to the dogs. And then Glitter came along, and now she only wanted to be a porn star, or that what it seems. I think the public was so fed up with Mariah's boobs, they didn't want anyting to do with Glitter or Loverboy. Just look at the transformation, the lead singles from Daydream, Butterfly, Rainbow and Glitter. No wonder she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder during the the Glitter release, and I can say that being bipolar myself. I think Mariah went utterly crazy during the production of Glitter and Loverboy, and thought that an overly sexy/trashy look was all it took to sell Loverboy. I'm so glad The Emancipation of Mimi again showed how classy Mariah can be. She became an A-lister again, and she never lost her status, she will for ever be music prominence. (Monday 20 April 2020; 17:08)

Re: Emotions album (93,708) (93,715) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I think I wrote that because you didn't include it in the list. Yesterday I listened to Emotions (album) whilst running, start to finish. And I have to say it is so much better than I remember it. Some of the melodies are incredible, e.g. "Precious love burning so deeply" is really quite moving. I just think it's possibly the production that puts people off. It's very "tinny" for want of a better word. Music Box is a lot more "wholesome". Again, for want of a better word. (Monday 20 April 2020; 14:18)

Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,709) (93,714) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I did listen to the a capella Butterfly last night and I don't think I was too hard on Butterfly. It's very, very slow, but has a terrific melody. I actually really love listening to Mariah's stripped a capellas, sometimes more than the actual songs. I think the production on Outside has started to sound a little bit dated. The vocal only version is amazing and actually makes me appreciate the song more. The gravel in her voice when she sings "try and try to tell yourself" during the climax actually chokes me up every time I hear it. Sometimes it's good to remove the instrumentation and just listen to the vocal so you can fully appreciate what she achieved in the studio. It is possibly the cure for that there ear cancer Jeremimi is causing. (Monday 20 April 2020; 14:09)

Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,711) (93,713) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You can only really "bully" someone who is vulnerable and I see no reason to consider you as such, save perhaps for your historically evident lack of intellect. Your attempt (yet again) to paint yourself as a victim is as boring as it overused. Hypothesising what would have happened in Mariah's career had she and Tommy split is interesting. You should know - you did it. You declared with absolute certainty that Butterfly would not have been recorded, right before you said the exercise was "redundant and tiresome". Ergo, "I have the answer and nobody else should even challenge it." What a "bully". Shockingly unclever. (Monday 20 April 2020; 13:59)

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