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Interesting article (93,712)
by Tijl from Belgium
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This showed up on Buzzfeed. Thought I might just as well share it with you guys.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 12:50)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,706) (93,711)
by Tijl from Belgium
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"However, I also don't think it necessary for people to keep attacking you. You're obviously not a mean person, even if sounding a bit spiteful, here. I think perhaps the lockdown is getting to everyone. (Yea, Andrew from the UK is calling you mean-spirited: your blood must be boiling right now.)"
As a matter of fact, the only person attacking me is you Andrew. And you seem to enjoy it as well. You are a bully which can be excused from a little child but coming from an adult it is considered toxic behaviour.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 12:43)
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Re: Emotions album (93,703) (93,710)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I feel like fans don't deliberately avoid it. It's just overlooked. It still is her bestselling album, so chances are it is one of the few albums that her casual fans and the average music lover may have of her (the others being Daydream, the debut album and maybe TEOM). Despite its success, maybe Music Box had the misfortune of being followed by her holiday album, Daydream and Butterfly - three much beloved albums that are widely considered superior to it, and that may have overshadowed it. Which is interesting since Music Box is home to a few of her biggest international hits and signature tracks. But then again, in a sort of similar fashion, Madonna's True Blue is her bestselling studio album and contains some of her most indelible hits, yet isn't held in the same esteem as Like A Prayer, her first compilation album or Erotica.
(Monday 20 April 2020; 06:34)
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Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,707) (93,709)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Maybe it's too slow Andrew. I like the Classic Bossa Nova-version more than the album version. There's an acapella on YouTube of the main singing-line in Butterfly and I thought it would appear more remixes than it has.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 15:42)
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Re: Emotions album (93,703) (93,708)
by Bill from the UK
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What makes you think I avoid Music Box? I love that album, and always will. Like many, it was my introduction to Mariah, and me purchasing that album on cassette in 1994 would change my life forevermore.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:46)
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Re: Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,705) (93,707)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Err, I always thought Butterfly underperformed because it was *too* slow. By the end of the second chorus you feel like you've invested a good part of your lifespan to the song. You could read the first half of War And Peace between the first chorus and the second verse. I just listened to Butterfly again and I am certain I had a grey hair at the end of it that was not there at the beginning.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:18)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,698) (93,706)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You can cry about people trying to shut other people's opinions down all you like. But that is exactly what you, yourself, did. The poster posed an interesting hypothetical: just as we look back in our own lives to important junctures and wonder "what if...?" so too did the poster wonder, having correctly identified that Tommy and Mariah separating created a specific divergent path in Mariah's life, what would have happened to Mariah's career and probably Mariah herself had they worked things out. It is an interesting and fun game. Seemingly predicting Mariah would be criticised, you attempted to shut it down by ridiculing anyone who took part. And now you claim victimhood? I would have had respect for your position if you'd stuck to it with dignity. But you cannot claim to be a victim of other people shutting you down. The irony is immense and you sound ridiculous yourself.
However, I also don't think it necessary for people to keep attacking you. You're obviously not a mean person, even if sounding a bit spiteful, here. I think perhaps the lockdown is getting to everyone. (Yea, Andrew from the UK is calling you mean-spirited: your blood must be boiling right now.)
On that subject I would have thought on a lockdown people would have more time on their hands and post more here. They are not, so if more people actually do post let's try not to shut them down so it is a bit more welcoming. I understand the irony here also as I am normally first to tell people they are idiots. But even if the lockdowns are not actually getting rid of the virus or making much better in the real world, we can at least re-evaluate how we think about life and try to be a bit more positive.
If Brandon and I can be nice to each other, and I don't call him a delusional idiot in need of serious counselling, then there's hope for everyone, right?
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 13:06)
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Bfly (Classic Bossa Nova) Fm-enhanced (93,705)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Hey, I slowed down the tempo of Butterfly (Classic Bossa Nova), about the album tempo, and FM-enhanced it. Probably the most beautiful song ever, in my opinion.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 11:44)
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Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,704)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Sorry, Bill, but count me in with Licia on that. I'm just a different type of listener where the following factors affect how I feel about music in descending order:
Melody (always the first thing that catches my attention) Production/instrumentation Vocal performance Lyrics/theme The artist (how I feel about them and their material)
However, just like most of us, if I like an artist's work, then I am predisposed to automatically like what they put out. Not always a sure thing, though.
All of my favorite artists have one thing in common - majority of their work meet all of the items in the above criteria.
By your selection of top 3 albums, you seem to be the type of listener who likely values vocal performance first before anything else most of the time.
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 10:07)
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Re: Emotions album (93,701) (93,703)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Will, does it not feel like most fans avoid Music Box, as you seemingly do? It is her CoBoWo of the 90s. It is the album that everyone bought because everyone wanted diva vocals at that time. It made Mariah internationally. Why do fans hate it?
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 02:12)
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Re: Emotions album (93,700) (93,702)
by Victoria from USA
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I used to have the Emotions poster. I also had the Love Takes Time subway poster. I have no idea where the posters cardboard tube ended up
(Sunday 19 April 2020; 01:52)
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Re: Emotions album (93,700) (93,701)
by Bill from the UK
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Emotions is so underrated. My favourite after Unplugged and Merry Christmas. Her vocals are astonishing and it houses the best ballads. So moving and atmospheric, especially the closers Till the End of Time and The Wind. I've never encountered a fan who doesn't love TTEOT.
(Looks at Licia.)
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 22:43)
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Emotions album (93,700)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Emotions is my favorite album. It breathes class and soul. Her voice is unparallelled by any singer. Maybe Rachelle Ferrell has something similiar, but she doesn't use her voice the right way, neither even tries. But the opening track is horrible. 80's music that should be in the trash can. And she doesn't really make it vocally, sounds forced. The Daydream tour performance is a good choice though. Nothing beats this album. Does anyone know if there's a poster of the cover art to buy somewhere? A really large poster.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 22:01)
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All I Want For Christmas Is Tokyo Dome 2020 (93,699)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Mariah should play the Tokyo Dome again. It would be the greatest celebration of her 30 year anniversary to repeat the record she made in 1996. So, as Mariah's manager-in-waiting, I propose the following: the All I Want For Christmas Is You Tour 2020 should be at Tokyo Dome for 3 nights in December. That's 150,000 bums on seats she needs, but it's Japan - I think she could pull it off. They would drink her sweat if she bottled it. Sweat, sweat fantasy, baby.
Of course, Mariah should then fly to Europe to perform the fourth and final show at the 02 Arena in London. Because it's the best arena in the world in the best city in the world. And the best fan in the world just happens to live right by it.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 21:12)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,695) (93,698)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Perhaps the fact that so few posts get reactions on here is because anytime a member makes a PERSONAL statement or shares a PERSONAL (webmaster, please allow for capitals to emphasize the matter) point of view, others seem to feel the need to start a polemic as to make sure all others accept their PERSONAL opinion as the absolute truth. This is a message board, a place of leisure and entertainment. It is not that important. I hoped at least of lately with the current global situation that people would be able to understand what really matters in life. All the best to you all and take care.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 20:34)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,692) (93,697)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Of course it is everybody's opinion but it will not change what happened. Love you too.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 19:38)
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Re: So Blessed best vocally (93,693) (93,696)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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You're so predictable.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 18:48)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,692) (93,695)
by Bobby A from United States
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Way to go, Rashidi. At least you get a response. Nowadays my posts get very zero reponses because I said Caution was going to be MC's Thiller. We all are so protective of MC.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 16:59)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,692) (93,694)
by TJ from Norway
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Wow. And the Nobel peace prize went to?
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 15:29)
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Re: So Blessed best vocally (93,691) (93,693)
by Bill from the UK
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Best soulful vocal: Anytime You Need A Friend Best power vocal: O Holy Night Best elastic vocal: Emotions Best whisper vocal: Lead the Way Best R&B vocal: Make It Look Good Best dance vocal: Dreamlover (Def Club Mix) Best live vocal: If It's Over at SNL Best duet vocal: Endless Love with Luther at Royal Albert Hall
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 15:11)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,690) (93,692)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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Hey Tijl, if you don't want to join the conversation then buzz off. Nobody's asking for your opinion. This is Mariah's messageboard, and every fan has the right to talk whatever they want.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 14:19)
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Re: So Blessed best vocally (93,689) (93,691)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Agree and disagree. I can choose best vocals for different categories. But it is arbitrary and, like most lists, if you asked me to do the same thing in a few months I would come out with something completely different, perhaps. At least it's an excuse for a list.
Best soulful vocal: Anytime You Need A Friend Best power vocal: All I've Ever Wanted Best elastic vocal: Fantasy Best whisper vocal: Lead The Way Best R&B vocal: Stay The Night Best dance vocal: Fantasy (Def Club) Best live vocal: Hero @ Tokyo Dome Best duet vocal: I'll Be There @ Police Athletic League (Here is Mariah Carey)
(Wait for the absolute muppets with questionable personalities to write three or four things because they "ooh just can't choose".)
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 14:13)
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Re: What if Mariah never married Tommy in 1993 (93,686) (93,690)
by Tijl from Belgium
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'"Butterfly" would have never come into fruition if Mariah hadn't married and divorced Tommy. In any case, a "what if" hypothesis is a tiresome and redundant exercise. As Carrie Fisher once said: "Take your pain and turn it into art."
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 14:05)
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Re: So Blessed best vocally (93,688) (93,689)
by Bill from the UK
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Beautifully sung, I agree, but it's impossible to choose Mariah's overall best vocal performance.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 12:55)
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So Blessed best vocally (93,688)
by Lafa from Sweden
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So Blessed is Mariah's best song vocally.
(Saturday 18 April 2020; 12:40)
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