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Re: Track list snippets (85,427) (85,429) by RibbonB from USA
I sure didn't but I liked some of them.
(Tuesday 30 October 2018; 01:28)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,417) (85,428) by Andrew from UK
Talking of E=MC2, I was thinking today or my dwindling excitement for Corshugh ugh ugh ugh ugh uhn. And I was thinking of all the previous album releases and my differing levels of excitement. I think I was most excited about Rainbow. It was at that 99 Pop pinnacle moment, I'd heard Mariah showcasing the album in Atlantic 252, Heartbreaker was pop genius and I was feeling the fun from the sombre seriousness of Butterfly. I was a bit disappointed with it. But I was also wet with excitement at E=MC2 and when I got it back to work from a break I thought it was the best thing she had done. I still think that sometimes. I listened to it constantly. Because. It. Was. Fun. Corshugh ugh ugh ugh ugh uhn is going to have to have some stellar tracks in there together repeat plays. It's not exactly, well, fun, so far.
(Tuesday 30 October 2018; 00:29)
Track list snippets (85,427) by RibbonB from USA
B. 6-10 have got to be fake outs. I can't imagine Mimi going that techno or whatever. [Webmaster: You didn't read the disclaimer: "These are not official songs from the album except 'GTFO', 'With You', 'The Distance', and 'A No No'. This is the tracklist of 'Caution'. We don't know the real music yet so I used the songs I usually use for vlogging."]
(Monday 29 October 2018; 23:27)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,420) (85,426) by Bobby A from United States
Maybe a 10 track Caution album story for November 16th and then when the Caution Tour is in full swing she will re-release Caution part 2 to push the album and tour sales. I just don't see JD's aggressive tracks apart of this 10-track release. Who knows what her team has planned in the coming weeks for the actual 16th release? Maybe a Target Exclusive CD/DVD with extra tracks and Making of Caution DVD or even a Deluxe Version with extra tracks at all retailers. Remember she did tweet last week the sneak peek of the making of The Distance as if more was to come on the 16th. The 10-track release must be telling a story. It begins with GTFO and ends with Truthfully. What we have heard so far is kind of a synopsis of what has happen in MC's life in the last 4 years. The other 6 remaining tracks are going to be very revealing to our ears. I can't wait to hear the Caution story on the 16th on my way to Nashville.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 22:39)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,417) (85,425) by Licia from USA
I think the title for track 8 is hilarious. I can't wait to hear all the nonsense. Every album has to have that one song that will make me want to stab out my ears. I think this may be the one unless No No No does it. I'm hoping that the title is just silly and it's a good song though.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 22:33)
Re: "Can't Let Go (Live in Osaka)" (85,421) (85,424) by Licia from USA
She sounded really good. I'm going to need her to bring these vocals to Texas in March. Lol.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 22:22)
Mariah (85,423) by Lafa from Sweden
Mariah's "breathy voice" that she has always had is not falsetto. It is a "function" in the voice that comes forward in full voice when there's enough strength pressure in the tongue/throat. So any vocal coach that says it is falsetto is wrong.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 20:59)
Re: Re: Lips? Lol (85,407) (85,408) (85,422) by We are Lambily from USA
Edward, the reason why I wrote that is because it takes time, as Mariah herself said songwriting is more than half what she does. Mariah has always been a better vocalist than Celine even on her worst day "Rockefeller" she showed more agility than Celine could ever. Céline nasal tone is not a favorite of mine. And also Mariah used to sleep 14+ hours a day before but dem kids take all of mommy's attention. Mariah Carey is an artist, musician, a producer, a songwriter and a singer. Celine is a good singer. You can't compete, Mariah is a leader while Celine is just a follower and a puppet. Name one single original thing she has done as an artist.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 19:52)
"Can't Let Go (Live in Osaka)" (85,421) by Billy from Greece
Really beautiful and heartfelt performance.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 19:09)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,417) (85,420) by Andrew from UK
When I saw track 8 I actually said FFS out loud to myself. It's weird that an album is coming out and we've heard 40 per cent of it already. There's only really suspense left in six songs. I agree with the other poster: Caution needs to be a banger and I hope Truthfully is another Languishing type moment. Otherwise, WTP?
(Monday 29 October 2018; 18:35)
Re: Lips? Lol (85,408) (85,419) by Andrew from UK
Edward, her voice seems to have deteriorated even further in the last twelve months. I am surely not the only one thinking this. Everything is stacatto, nothing seems drawn out. "Still I buhlee eh eh evv'd" on VOL, "Higher... than the heavens... Uh buh uhv" on Eeeh muh ugh ugh ugh oh shuns and so on. There are some good vocal moments on her tour but this shit is not pleasant to listen to. It's actually [censored] weird. I notice Mariah now sings with her neck tense and her jaw jutting out. I think she has more serious problems with than anyone realizes, to be perfectly honest.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 18:33)
Re: Caution tour (85,416) (85,418) by Matini from United States
I bought tickets for the Dallas concert and just like you, was a legacy member, so I snagged my tickets as soon as presale were available. I ended up getting good seats near the isle on the 7th row. Sadly, the first row seats were not available for HBFly members and that's exactly what I wanted. I tried switching seats, so I called Ticketmaster and they told me that I couldn't. I'm so heartbroken because she isn't having a meet and greet (which is what I reallyyy wanted), so the next best thing was front row tickets for me.

This is my first MC concert. I wasn't able to go to Vegas because of school and I couldn't see her whenever she did tour the US because I was in high school and didn't have a job. I won tickets to see her on Kimmel back in 2015, but my mom was late taking me to the airport... so I have the worst luck ever.

But yes, the same thing happened to me.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 17:41)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,415) (85,417) by Bill from the UK
Haha, I had the same feeling of dread wash over me when I read track 8's title. Seems interesting, especially Truthfully. I wonder if it will be a gospel closer like she's did for Emancipation, E=MC2 and MIAM. Time will tell. November 16th seems so far away haha.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 17:30)
Caution tour (85,416) by Mara from United States
So did anyone get tickets to the show? I grabbed The Sands which as of now is the last date (she could always add dates) and I got tickets in second row to the Hard Rock Atlantic City show. I have to say I was a little disappointed in how the HoneyBFly ticket presale was done. I was upped to Legacy status so I was able to try at 10am as opposed to 11 and I was checking and checking and the best I saw even up to the 11am I grabbed because I was afraid it was the best I was going to get. However "after" I bought those, they released front row tickets right side and at that point I had already got what I thought was the best we were going to get. At that point your tickets are non refundable or even available for an upgrade, which was orders from Mariah's people not Ticketmaster or the vendor. Just sad that it was like that. I was just trying to upgrade what I had, not cancel but it wasn't allowed. We managed better seats in AC so it's all good. But it would have been amazing to have front row seats and the cost wasn't that much more sadly than what I paid for an "aisle special seat made available" by the performer and team. I'm just grateful to be seeing her again am doing on a new tour. But I was a little disappointed how the tickets were released.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 16:57)
Re: Caution standard edition tracklist (85,414) (85,415) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Now I know it's possible to both love and dread something at the same time because that's exactly how I feel about track 8. The title track better be an upbeat banger or we would instantly hear the collective sigh of fans all around the world. Good Lie seems quite intriguing.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 16:01)
Caution standard edition tracklist (85,414) by B from USA
1. GTFO
2. With You
3. Caution
4. A No No
5. The Distance featuring Ty Dolla $ign
6. Good Lies
7. Portrait
8. Open Me (Like A Bottle)
9. For A Moment
10. Truthfully
(Monday 29 October 2018; 15:23)
Re: No No No clip (85,411) (85,413) by Licia from USA
Ok. Thanks for that info. That's a relief to hear.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 15:15)
Re: New name for message board (85,391) (85,412) by B from USA
My sincerest apologies for visiting your site daily and posting multiple messages a day on your messageboard.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 14:23)
Re: No No No clip (85,409) (85,411) by B from USA
They've raised the tempo and pitch to avoid copyright issues.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 14:21)
Re: Mariah's best advice (85,404) (85,410) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Yes, she actually said that, albeit straight to camera (she was being interviewed confessional style) and not really to the contestants, but still, that's the most sensible and most appropriate piece of advice she has ever given to any dreamer ever. The industry truly is more parts luck and timing than actual talent and resources.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 13:51)
No No No clip (85,409) by Licia from USA
I hope the clip I just heard is not the song because it's a definite No No No from me. Hopefully when I hear the song fully it'll change my mind. *goes back to replaying The Distance over and over*
(Monday 29 October 2018; 12:56)
Re: Lips? Lol (85,407) (85,408) by Edward from USA
"Also it must be easy to take care of your voice when you don't have to write/produce a song." How writing and producing a song makes it harder for a person to take care of their voice? You take care of your voice by not doing things that would ruin it and by taking steps to preserve it, having professional help and a vocal coach. Celine's voice is definitely not the same, but she's doesn't struggle like Mariah. She lips, but she can still sing hell of a song. I don't see her hiding behind a posse of backup singers.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 12:36)
Lips? Lol (85,407) by We are Lambily from USA
Someone is clearly biased and has a grudge against Mariah. Celine lips more than half of her shows. Also it must be easy to take care of your voice when you don't have to write/produce a song. Mariah is a music genius, Celine is a great "in my opinion good" singer. Mariah can't relate to being in the industry for 30+ years yet you can't even produce a single hit lyric. Lol. Celine's career is Mariah Carey's nightmare, that's exactly what Tommy had in mind for her, to sing the same basic contemporary songs over and over again. Proceed with caution y'all
(Monday 29 October 2018; 11:09)
Caution tour (85,406) by Ethan from United States
I just recently saw Christina's Liberation Tour concert in Oakland with a similar scale, that is theater-venue. I hope Caution Tour considers some kind of production to accommodate for the size of venue. I know Mariah has done this before, aka Charmbracelet Tour, and it was amazing. Mariah's team needs to do is to show some beauty montages, speaking parts, and dancers' routines between costume changes with a theme. To be honest, Christina can sing but nowadays it's hard to hear her singing, which is not my style - too much ad libs, over-the-top vocals, and I can't hear much even though I know her songs. The difference between Mariah and her is that some of her songs can move the crowds like Dirty, Can't Hold Us Down, Fighter, etc., aka more dance songs (she definitely has the empowerment factor to drive the crowds and fans - yes Mariah has Hero/Make It Happen but she needs to make an inspirational speech to inspire more people). At the concert, the choruses are heavily relied on backup singers and backup tracks. It's interesting to notice that not a lot of folks have criticized about her current voice (and she hasn't toured much at all). It's definitely not the same as late 90s and Stripped and Back to Basics era. So all I hope is that Mariah gets back her confidence (as she recently yet slowly did during her Asia tour) and works on her stage presence and performance. Then, she will be great despite the current vocals.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 07:13)
Re: Just a thought (85,396) (85,405) by Andrew from UK
Does she sound good, though? All I am hearing is staccato bursts of struggle and seeing Mariah drinking in the studio. Celine looks after her voice and Mariah abuses it and lips.
(Monday 29 October 2018; 04:34)

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