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Re: The Fornication of Mimi (68,551) (68,560) by Mirage_Nunez from America It really does matter though Edward. Trust me having that family unit is very important for the psyche of children. Every little thing affects them. I don't doubt that Nick will remain a great father, but I wouldn't advise having 25 baby mamas. Okay moving on guys. I'm so over this topic. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 13:40)

Re: The Fornication of Mimi (68,551) (68,559) by RibbonB from USA Hilarious. You named it. They are good parents. Now, when does the good record drop? She could name it "We've both been wildin' out". (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 13:30)

Re: Who is afraid of Virginia Wolfe? (68,541) (68,558) by Musti from UK As sad as it is, I must say I agree with pretty much everything in your post. I just want to say this though with reference to the voice. I'm not sure how much of it she has retained over the years but I do feel for her in that I don't think she ever expected her voice to change in the way it did. She had a remarkable gift but it wasn't a durable one. Her voice is likely to fail her much earlier than other singers that are often praised on this board like Patti or Aretha. These singers sing with basic techniques entirely within their natural ranges, whereas Mariah's singing has always been heavily reliant on the intricate configuration of her chords and nodules. I think #Beautiful on GMA in 2013 was possibly the last time she tried (and failed) to do a whistle live. She knows it's not stable anymore. Her exceptional technique is her inevitable doom. I just hope she does everything she can to preserve it, including selling off her champagne business and never picking up a flute again. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 12:56)

Re: The Fornication of Mimi (68,551) (68,557) by Licia from USA Edward you killed me. Lol. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 10:26)

Re: Who is afraid of Virginia Wolfe? (68,541) (68,556) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Need details on that "interesting encounter" haha. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 7:52)

Re: Why Mariah is the way she is (68,516) (68,555) by Tevin from USA Hey Mandy I understand your point of view. I really don't care how Mariah acts in her life, it's her life and in reality does not affect me. I know she went through more then we will ever know, and I do hope she finds true happiness in life. But I do expect one thing from her, that she has not given in a long time at least since 2010, and that's to get up on stage and sing, sing her heart out, with no smoke and mirrors, but with imperfections and reflections, and with passion. I just want her to sing. For being considered the greatest vocalist in the world, is that really to much to ask? Like I said, I just hope she is happy, it really does pain me when you see that look on her face when you realize that she realizes she can't sing like she used to, and lately I've been seeing that look on her face more and more. I honestly think she is not lazy as some have said, I think she has just lost her passion. I mean imagine you woke up one day and for a whole week you sung in front of people and you had the same exact voice and vocal skill as 1994-96 Mariah. The next week you wake up to sing in front of the same people and you sound like 2014 Rockefeller or 2015 Japan tour Mariah, and knowing you can never go back. I know these are extreme examples and Mariah still sings good (Infamous was great) but I hope you see my point. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 5:07)

Re: Click like on this if you won't be watching MW (68,515) (68,554) by Tevin from USA Good observations Andrew. But I don't think Mariah started off with such a big ego and waco as some people have called it. Have you ever seen Mariah perform VOL at the Apollo theater? Talk about stage fright, she kept her eyes closed for most of the performance, and she messed up her lead up to the line "turned out to be" because she opened her eyes and was in shock with how the crowed was going crazy over the amazing vocal run she just unleashed. That's the Mariah I missed, the one who walked on stage with something to prove, and left thinking she should have given even more. Anyway I do think Glitter changed Mariah, ever since then even doing here comeback, she always had this glossy look behind her eyes (maybe I'm reading to much into this lol), anyway stressful and tramadic events in peoples lives can cause havoc on a person mental state. I'm not saying this is true of Mariah, because we don't know her personally, but with the way she has been acting lately, who knows? I will just hope for the best. Also for some new music. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 4:39)

Re: Spotify doesn't have (68,536) (68,553) by SM from Citizen of the World Either does Tidal. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 4:31)

Re: Nick (68,545) (68,552) by Mirage_Nunez from America Actually Ive been fully aware (the whole time) that my argument probably had nothing to do with the original "Nick" post and that's fine. My concern in all of this was never that "Nick should've considered Mariah's feelings about getting another woman pregnant, even after their divorce" or anything of that nature, but more so a long running observation of how people attack Mariah in defense of Nick on here. It's quite normal for a discussion to spawn into other discussions. After all it is a message-board, topics change. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 2:59)

The Fornication of Mimi (68,551) by Edward from USA Mariah's new album should be titled: "The Fornication of Nick". Nick must be punished for everything that's happening to Mariah, including her horrible wigs, that look as if they were made of horse hair. Hadn't he done all the bad things he did to her, Mariah wouldn't have gone wild with all the craziness of lately. I would suggest a first single referencing Nick, but not too explicit. A track called "He Cheated (Out of Wedlock Remix)" would be cool, Nick would never imagine she was talking about him. Nick needs to wait for Mariah to have two boyfriends before he could entertain having one girlfriend, it's only fair. He must use condoms and not have babies out of wedlock. Remember that having a baby while married regardless whether you are a horrible father/mother or not is best. Nick and Mariah could have 25 babies out of wedlock for all I care, what really matter is where they're good parents. Nick's having a baby out of wedlock, who f*cking cares. If Lambs don't care where Mariah put her Carey, why should they worry where Nick put his Cannon? (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 2:48)

Re: Nick (68,544) (68,550) by Mirage_Nunez from America First of all, I'm not a Nick hater at all. I actually like Nick, still follow him on Instagram and root for him, because after all he is a good guy and the father of Mariah's kids. Never wanted them to divorce, was happy for them during their marriage when everything looked like it was going well, and admired the way he always defended Mariah in the press. So please miss me with your baseless assumptions. Also I didn't deflect or minimize anything Mariah did that was wrong. Go back and read all my recent posts again. Ironically that's exactly what you did in your post deflect from Nick and attacked Mariah decisions, which further proves my point. So now you're here complaining about people "judging every move Nick makes", but isn't that what you just did to Mariah. The hypocrisy must end. If I "look crazy" for making a valid observation and expressing my thoughts on it, then wouldn't that make you look crazy too. Or the other people that complain about everything Mariah does on the daily basis. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 2:44)

Re: Nick (68,544) (68,549) by RibbonB from USA Exactly Lila. I just had to move on, but thanks for the accuracy. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 1:54)

Re: Who is afraid of Virginia Wolfe? (68,541) (68,548) by Lila from United States Can we hear about the interesting encounter if you don't mind telling lol? (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 1:23)

The underestimation is real (68,547) by Nikki from usa The way Mariah typically goes about her ballads is open ended so other people can apply it to their own lives and steers toward the emotional implications rather than the specifics. Going back to what made her famous is where it's at. That's her bread and butter right there and I'm all in. The determining factor here is going to be if this is break up music like Inifinity or break up music like Can't Let Go. I don't want Mariah to just rehash, I'd like her to expand her craft, and not just regurgitate what she's already done. The fact is people can relate to being played, to having mixed feelings, to harsh breakups, or just feeling betrayed. All this publicity is one hell of a stepping stone. I just hope she uses it to display an array of quality music across the board. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 1:15)

Re: So... (68,539) (68,546) by Licia from USA Emotions is that album that never gets old. It's my 3rd most listened to album. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 0:59)

Re: Nick (68,544) (68,545) by Licia from USA Not to mention the original post about Nick had nothing to do with Mariah or Nick's wrongdoings. They made it into another situation entirely. They just saw Nick's name and went on a bash spree. Lol. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 0:56)

Re: Nick (68,537) (68,544) by Lila from United States I'm over here dying lol. Some of the lambs don't know just how crazy they sound. I'm constantly baffled. It's a constant barrage of "I don't like Nick and regardless of how happy he makes Mariah and how healthy it is for the twins to be in an intact family, I wish that he would disappear but now that he and Mariah are separated/divorced it's still my job to constantly stalk and judge Nick's every move and it's still up to him to be considerate of Mariah's feelings which includes not moving on or having more kids with someone else but only because we can no longer indulge in gleefulness over the idea of Mariah being able to throw the ugly billionaire in Nick's face, while he fades into obscurity, depressed over no longer being with Mariah, now that said ugly billionaire has split without any warning. When, Mariah engages in questionable behavior, we can't acknowledge that because it would upset our lamb world so instead let's deflect using Nick's behavior, no matter that deflection is poor argument and Nick's behavior has nothing to do with the situation at hand. Don't forget everything Mariah says is the 100% gospel truth and she never does anything wrong, meaning she has no fault and played no part in her marriage's failure, all that falls to Nick and if we must acknowledge any part she played, make sure to extremely minimize it in comparison to Nick's." Goodness, lol, it must be so tiring for so many lambs with the amount of hoops they must jump through and hypocrisy, fickleness, and blindness they have to constantly engage in to always make Mariah the victim and/or in the right. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 0:40)

Jojo's new album (68,543) by lil star from untied states I think if Mariah made an album like Jojo's new one it could work for her. It's still r&b but mixes elements of current music and sounds. It's different enough without alienating her fan base. Jojo while a younger artist tried to go into dance music and while it was good no body bought it and it turned into a mix tape. (Tuesday 22 November 2016; 0:17)

Who is afraid of Virginia Wolfe? (68,541) by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA I see so many lambs are, too, becoming disillusioned with Mariah. I've been saying for a couple of years now that I'm in a loveless marriage with her. I probably should leave, but I'm "running around in circles over her". While I find no joy in her media dalliances or her terrible shows (I laugh at these lambs making videos showing where she hit a D5 note for 1.2 seconds as if that makes up for an overall unpleasant sounding vocal). What has really maintained my fandom is diving back into hardcore Mariah collecting. The thrill of getting rare Mariah items for my collection is fulfilling. I suppose I've regressed more into what she used to be that what she is now. TBH, I don't feel bad for her anymore. Where I used to drag anyone who dared speak negatively of her, I just nod. I don't give a damn about her being poor as a child, being biracial, what Tommy did, the Glitter era, Nicki Minaj, Stella (who I had an interesting encounter with), or Nick. Unless and until she can sit down and tell some hard truths without the comedy and unless and until she can sit in front of a camera and sing acapella (I'm convinced her whistling ability had suffered a major blow in the last 6 years), I don't have any cares to give her. (Monday 21 November 2016; 23:15)

Re: Nick (68,537) (68,540) by Mirage_Nunez from America Now you're just straight up lying and back peddling, but keep peddling honey because you made this quote before I even join this whole discussion about Nick: "So what if he has dated many women since their divorce announcement. At least he has been clear to them that he is just dating or spending time and that he has no plans for an extended or committed relationship. That is what some single people do and others like Mariah get engaged but act single with their employees." Still defending Nick and using Mariah as a retort. You may have tried really hard, but there's no joke on me boo you failed miserably and my point still remains valid. The fact of the matter is you are always defending Nick over Mariah. You gloss over his wrongs while highlighting and harping on Mariah's wrongs , which makes you bias and a hypocrite. Trust, there's even more things you've said in the past that proves this point. I'm just using your most recent quotes, so don't try me. It doesn't matter if it's for the blogs or real life Nick is no better honey. That's the point that you're not comprehending. Now your job as Mariah's moral police has been revoked, return your badge to the front desk and you are order to go sit in a dark corner with your finger over your lips until further notice. (Monday 21 November 2016; 22:30)

Re: So... (68,504) (68,539) by Warrior Butterfly from USA Emotions has always had a jazzy feel to it especially tracks like Till The End Of Time. (Monday 21 November 2016; 22:27)

LM Lifestory (68,538) by RibbonB from USA Wow they are doing Luis M.'s life story for TV. I wonder if Mariah will be depicted and who will play her part. This should be somewhat interesting. (Monday 21 November 2016; 20:43)

Re: Nick (68,535) (68,537) by RibbonB from USA No you tried it, keep trying, though. Your're comprehension skills are marginal at best when you don't understand the joke was on you and your comments about kids out of wedlock, I thought I would just throw the fornication line out there for you. They are both grown and can do as they please, but Mariah is intentionally keeping her mess in the tabloids. So have several seats. (Monday 21 November 2016; 20:38)

Spotify doesn't have (68,536) by Warrior Butterfly from USA The glitter album. (Monday 21 November 2016; 19:10)

Re: Nick (68,529) (68,535) by Mirage_Nunez from America Chile bye. You tried it. I can't with you anymore. You are team Nick and you know it. This statement "this is not the 1950's and just like Mariah could live with a man during her divorce and may or may not fornicate, so could Nick date and have sex" along with many many other comments you've made sounds extremely defensive, but I digress. You can dare to spew bias hypocrisy when it comes to MC and Nick, however it discredits your stance as the moral police of Mariah's life. Tough turbans and illegitimate children. (Monday 21 November 2016; 18:48)

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