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(84,810) by Bobby A from United States Happy weekend. I don't know about everybody else, but GTFO and With You have made me want the album even more. I wouldn't mind if she just dropped the album one Friday without notice. She probably would garner more album sales and plus release the second single and video. Just my thoughts on this rainy weekend. (Friday 12 October 2018; 23:29)

Mariah live (84,809) by ksquarred from paris Hey, we all talk about Mariah not being able to belt it live, but last winter for the All I Want for Christmas tour in Paris, one of French most famous singer Johnny Halliday died and she sang his song 100% live. I was there, and it sounded amazing. I think if she lipsyncs it's just because she fears her voice will crack, that's also why she always sounds amazing at the Beacon theater but whenever she sings the same songs in huge European arenas it's not as great (remember that impromptu performance at the Carlyle back in 2012 anyone?). Btw I'm not saying her voice is the same as 1995, I'm just saying she still sounds good. (Friday 12 October 2018; 23:04)

Mariah: queen of the redo (84,808) by Randy from USA Bill I don't agree she engineered her vocals then. In fact I don't think she engineered vocals until Rainbow. I think she wanted to be alone in 98 so she could re-do it over and over until she was satisfied. Whitney was a one take artist. It's funny. I think MC has been that way since the beginning and live was never her thing. Narada Michael Walden who worked with both of them said in an interview in the early 90s that Whitney comes from a background of singing. She comes in and it's natural. Mariah is a singer with a crazy ear. Funny she needs an ear monitor now. Anyway he said that Mariah can replicate anything she heard exactly but she records things over and over until they're perfect. He said of I Don't Wanna Cry there was a part she kept recording over and over so many times, he had to stop her because she was erasing good vocals that were better than the ones she was putting down to replace what she was not satisfied with. Narada Michael Walden produced I Don't Wanna Cry for MC and Where Do Broken Hearts Go for Whitney. So my point is that Mariah during When You Believe wanted to re do it until it was right and Whitney came in the booth and probably got right the hell out in 5 minutes. I would use an analogy to the differences in acting. Whitney would be like a theater actress can hit it perfectly live on stage. MC would need to be on film and do many takes to get as powerful a performance. (Friday 12 October 2018; 22:42)

Re: New album cover (84,802) (84,807) by Edward from USA Andrew, you must be tripolar. Exactly what I experienced. It was something not expected from Mariah visually, and the song, given the time, actually gets into one's head. Lol. (Friday 12 October 2018; 21:46)

Re: Question (84,804) (84,806) by B from USA That seemed like Whitney throwing Mariah a life preserver after accidentally letting something slip she wasn't supposed to. She states that eventually Mariah came in and they recorded together. I assumed it was something like what's going on with Sam Smith or what happened with Adele. (Friday 12 October 2018; 21:38)

Re: Question (84,799) (84,805) by Bill from the UK My theory is Mariah wanted to be alone when recording her vocals so she could engineer the crap out of them to match Whitney's. (Friday 12 October 2018; 21:11)

Re: Question (84,799) (84,804) by AgentM from UK I think it has to do with being on her period. Whitney said in the Oprah interview that a female's vocal range/ability changes when you're on the menstrual cycle, and that it affects her singing too. She also went on to mention about female opera singers and how they try not to perform around their cycle time. Hence why Oprah joked that Luther Vandross doesn't have an issue obviously hitting the high notes. (Friday 12 October 2018; 21:02)

Re: New album cover (84,802) (84,803) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Andrew stop, I can't deal with all this positivity. I'm crying. I'm happy you finally found something you like about current Mariah. (Friday 12 October 2018; 20:39)

Re: New album cover (84,789) (84,802) by Andrew from UK I must agree that the video is pretty artistic and pleasing to watch. I also would agree that the staging at the American Music Awards is quite moving to watch. I don't know why but I had a bit of a tear in my eye watching it. I also can't get the song out of my head. Ugh. (Friday 12 October 2018; 18:36)

Angry Andrew (84,801) by anonymous from UK I think I understand what I think you're doing, but at this point, and it's been a long time coming, it feels that you're making yourself ill with all this bile you keep regurgitating. I used to find your messages almost amusing, but now you just come across like the angry drunk on the park bench who screams obscenities at people as they walk by. We get it, you think she's pathetic the way she is now. You think anyone who has a different opinion to yours is pathetic and/or delusional. That's fine. But it really does appear that if someone is causing you to be this angry and hateful, for your own sake it might be best to call it a day coming to a fan site (I would use capitals for the word fan but, ya know, rules and all) and being like the crazy person in the room, screaming at everyone that they're clearly not as clued up as you as they can't see or feel what you do as your perceived reality. It's not a conspiracy, it's not that deep. I'd like this board to feel like a fan site again, and I'd just like to say, Mariah has inspired me in her various guises over the years, and her resilience is astounding. I love you, Mariah. (Friday 12 October 2018; 18:28)

Re: AMAs (84,797) (84,800) by Edward from USA I guess you should know by now I'm far from being an apologist for her. Of course the choreography was set up that way to make sense of her just standing there, and it did work. As much as I don't like her constant lipping and stiff performances, I don't suffer anymore expecting any different because she doesn't seem to care, and if she doesn't care, why should I? If there's someone getting an ulcer for that, it should be her not me. And yes, the performance was visually stunning, emphasis on visually. I won't regurgitate what's been said about her lipping on this particular performance, that would be stating the obvious. (Friday 12 October 2018; 18:14)

Question (84,799) by B from USA Does anyone know what vocal issues Mariah was having before she recorded her parts of When You Believe? Whitney talked about it during their Oprah interview. (Friday 12 October 2018; 17:26)

Re: With You video / song's simplicity (84,786) (84,798) by enwar00 from usa Does anyone else think I Don't was filmed by Mishka on her iPhone? (Friday 12 October 2018; 16:43)

Re: AMAs (84,794) (84,797) by Andrew from UK Your observation was to excuse Mariah looking like Queen Else had touched her without gloves on because of the choreography, whereas, on the balance of probabilities, the choreography was likely done that way precisely because Mariah never moves anymore. And can you quite believe anybody is having these conversations about the once great Mariah Carey? Mariah Carey, who was the queen of strutting across a stage, the maestra of the run and punching the invisible ghost, the master of the arm-waving, the diva who would point to the ground on a low note then flick it up to the heavens on the high note, that very same Mariah Carey went on the AMA's and moved her lips a bit and her left arm up and down slowly. And this is getting praise these days, such is the low level of expectation. (Friday 12 October 2018; 16:39)

Re: Homecoming special (84,793) (84,796) by MusicfanJ from Germany Oh how I love the Homecoming special. Mariah was sweet, fun and so beautiful. Great songs and most of all she seemed to have fun on stage and with the students. It's impossible to love her not after watching this. When she says Bill has never looked harder (the big teddy), it's too funny. And the part when she talks to the ex-classmate. So cool. And not to forget the ex-principal. So many great scenes on it. That should have been on a DVD. (Friday 12 October 2018; 16:13)

Re: AMA choreography (84,785) (84,795) by Mara from United States May, I thought about the corset thing too. Only thing I can think, but only pertaining to the AMA performance is it prob helped with her standing completely still. Mariah is a master at that. She literally was statuesque. He leg was posed and she literally was like one of those Barbie dolls on her stand. Maybe the corset helps with posture. Whatever the reason, for that performance it worked. I would have been fidgeting and damn near falling over. The invisible chair moment comes to mind too, her balance is incredible. (Friday 12 October 2018; 15:51)

Re: AMAs (84,781) (84,794) by Edward from USA Andrew, if you noticed, I focused on the visual aspect of the performance, I didn't comment on the voice much because you and many others have already said what was obvious to her fans. I was tired of seeing Mariah perform with cheap productions, but this time it was something pleasing to the eye, and that's a fact. (Friday 12 October 2018; 14:37)

Homecoming special (84,793) by ksquarred from paris I guess everyone here has already seen it, but I just rewatched it, and this is really the Mariah I fell in love with. (Friday 12 October 2018; 14:19)

Re: Is it so hard to believe... (84,791) (84,792) by Edouard from France Hey Shezz, thank you for your post. We don't have to agree 100%. Communication is key. Thank you for not trying to demolish my post like I suppose others do. I just don't aknowledge some people on this board. They don't exist to me. Literally. And I wouldn't be mad if they were to forget me either. I just don't care. Looking foreward to the album as well. (Friday 12 October 2018; 14:10)

Re: Is it so hard to believe... (84,780) (84,791) by Shezz from Pk Yes you can hear a few breaths here and there and a few adlibs but I think it's because she speckled the performance with a few live notes over the studio track. I never watched the GTFO video again but I have seen this one a few times. A few random moments but generally yes a few good steps in the right direction. Looking forward to the album dropping soon. I feel she might pull off a couple of (mostly) live performances of With You during the Asia tour once she gets into her groove. (Friday 12 October 2018; 12:32)

Physical singles (84,790) by MC1989 from Spain Does anybody know if GTFO and With You are or will be avaliable on any physical format (cd or vinyl)? (Friday 12 October 2018; 12:12)

New album cover (84,789) by Bill from the UK The With You video is so good, on repeat viewings, that any one of the shots could make a really great album cover. Especially her in the car. I'd much prefer a still from that classy video over another photoshopped concoction of Mariah's head on a 20 year old's body. Another good look would be the shot of her sprawled on the floor, only in colour as that red dress was really striking. (Friday 12 October 2018; 11:54)

Re: AMAs (84,783) (84,788) by Bill from the UK Yes, even though she lipped the hell out of the song, I find myself going back to keep watching the AMA performance as it was a great visual and unique concept. (Friday 12 October 2018; 11:51)

Re: "The Remixes" 15 years later (84,769) (84,787) by Bill from the UK It’s a great album but the second disc was botched. Half of it was album tracks that should have been replaced with the Pure Imagination remix of I Still Believe, finally release the elusive Drifting Remix of Underneath the Stars, and some of those rare DYKWYGT mixes and Butterfly meme mixes. That would have been a great treat for the fans. But no. Slap on Crybaby and Breakdown (not even the extended version). The other major omission was the ten minute club mix of ABMB. I would have preferred that over that lazy mix of Through the Rain. (Friday 12 October 2018; 11:48)

Re: With You video / song's simplicity (84,782) (84,786) by May from Denmark "Didn't look like 10 dollars." Haha made me laugh because I Don't came to mind, that one probably costed 2 pesos. (Friday 12 October 2018; 11:14)

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