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Re: Be nice or leave (83,157) by 90sMariah from SG I apologise for hurting all your feelings. From this day on I will focus on the positives. Here I go: Mariah who used to be known for singing really well looks really good for her age, her hair styles are amazing, her make up's on point, her shoes look fierce, she looks healthy and she really has nice looking gowns - really nice. That really feels good - being nice and complimenting. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 15:28)

Be nice or leave (83,156) by We are Lambily from USA I can't even know what to say, so many haters and non lambs on this page. Just pure hate, asking a women who has had 30 years of success, these past 5 years, cruella de ville and co have focused on other things beside the music, and in one of the articles Stella wrote, she said that their management company together had projects worth over 100 million, her MAC makeup success. She has been in movies, tv shows etc. Mariah is being name dropped all over the world, in music, tv shows and what not. So many of the leading girls in music who have come out even in these past 5 years have expressed how much they love her, so many "kids" are on twitter with their fan pages dedicated to Mariah etc. The new era hasnn't even begun, Mariah is making moves behind the scenes, she has been seen with many Grammy award winning songwriters and producers. Why do you always have to try to bring Mariah down, it's unfair, she has given so much and she isn't done yet. Her songwriting and producing alone will make sure she is good of life. Be excited guys, Mariah is finally really dedicated to making moves again. The truth is many of you are [censored], Mariah has spent more weeks at #1 than anyone, she has more #1s than anyone, and 17 are actually self written. She knows this industry as good as any other legend. She has been trough it all. Also gotta clarify that Live Nation have said that her show have a sell out rating or whatever of 90+ and have had many completely sold out shows, same with Vegas. Good things will come. Everyone who has gone to Vegas has said she sounds amazing, ugh she is really back guys, time to take back the industry again lol. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 14:28)

Re: Article: The good, the bad and the ugly of "Loverboy" (83,151) (83,155) by TJ from Norway The album is superb, but the movie? I was embarrassed while watching it. Mariah knows how to sing emotions, but can't express them on the screen. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 11:53)

Re: Can't Let Go live (83,152) (83,154) by Licia from USA I think alot of their complaints are that when she does sing live it's like she's shouting out notes rather than singing. I can say this one does seem 100% live. I enjoyed the CLG from the very first show though. Thanks for sharing. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 11:44)

Re: Article: The good, the bad and the ugly of "Loverboy" (83,151) (83,153) by Licia from USA I agree about Glitter being a great album. I don't know if the movie would have done any better had 9/11 not happened, but maybe the album could have had a better chance. I'm miffed at the author of the article making it seem as if Loverboy hitting number 2 is bad. Although I like the song, I honestly didn't expect it to get that high so to me reaching number two is a huge feat. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 11:40)

Can't Let Go live (83,152) by enwar00 from usa I haven't been following or watching clips from the new Vegas show but I randomly just stumbled upon this. Maybe I'm one of those silent lambs or perhaps a blind and deaf lamb because I can't tell that she's lip synching but for sure I must be crazy because to me it just sounds like she's singing and dare I actually like it, not to mention I think she looks good and I find myself enjoying the clip and rewatching it. Who knew? (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 08:54)

Article: The good, the bad and the ugly of "Loverboy" (83,151) by Lainsky from Philippines Glitter remains one the best soundtracks and albums of Mariah in terms of quality and musicality. The movie was not that bad as the critics claimed. If not for the 9/11 tragedy, I still believe things could have been different and way much better. However, there are no accidents nor coincidences. Things happen for many reasons. And Mariah was able to learn from such uncontrolled and unforeseen circumstances. There's one thing that will never change... it's still a very good high quality album. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 06:41)

Oh, please (83,150) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Be nice or leave. That used to be the motto. Now it's who gets the most points for "intelligently reasoning" their disdain for Mariah, disguising it as care. Perhaps her voice has disappeared into the ether from whence it came - how dare you say what she should do or what you would do when you have no idea what it's like to possess that gift and lose it. And no, it's not all Mariah's life choices that have made it so. So many other incredible vocalists continue to smoke and drink, and maintain their voices to a recognisable degree. I for one know that Mariah had the greatest vocal ability known to man, and at her prime she was beyond phenomenal. I can understand the frustration at the smoke and mirror tactics but where is the humanity? To have that and to have lost it. We don't know how that feels, and we will never know. And believe it or not, there are many people in the world happy to see her lip sync, because they love the person and respect the gift that she gave the world for so long. If you don't like her as she is now and can't learn empathy, then please, I implore you. Be nice, or leave. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 05:44)

Mariah (83,149) by B from USA Mariah Carey is a perfectionist and when she lyps she usally lyps parts of her uptempos to preserve her voice for the ballads. Every singer in the industry lyps even Celine and Queen Bey. The only performance I've found disappointing during the first leg of The Butterfly Returns residency was I Still Believe. However, she gave some incredible live vocals before and after performing that song while using a backing track. Mariah's never been been at home on stage like Whitney and Celine who performed in nightclubs prior to getting theor deals. Mariah's a studio singer, always has been always will be. If you're expecting Mariah to sound like she did in 1990 you're clearly delusional or a wolf pretending to be a lamb. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 05:00)

For the nostalgia (83,148) by B from USA Here's Mariah singing Breakdown live during the Rainbow World Tour. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 04:45)

New Sade record (83,147) by RibbonB from USA Pow, so excited to hear of new Sade music coming. According to one of her bandmates, they have several songs as will share them when they are happy with them. I smell a new CD in 2019. Nine years since the last, she's getting faster. I wasn't impressed with her song for a Wrinkle In Time movie, but I didn't see the movie, so maybe that's why. Her projects never disappoint, so grinning that a new one is near. We might see it before Mimi's new project. (Tuesday 17 July 2018; 02:03)

Mariah 2018 (83,146) by Hector from Mexico Yes, Mariah is looking better now, but her voice is worse than ever. I don't understand why she is still doing shows and concerts. She's a millionaire. Stop it please. (Monday 16 July 2018; 22:03)

Re: (83,142) (83,145) by Andrew from UK Shezz, do you think that people telling Mariah what she is doing wrong helps her or hinders her? You surely experienced a moment when somebody pulled you aside and said "You're being fooled. This is the reality. Don't listen to these people. They do not have your interests at heart." Style aside, paying customers have the right to complain about the service also, do they not? The Bleeding Heart Brigade beed a reality check in my opinion. Buy the recent poster who countered with "We know it we just don't want to say it" hit home to me more than any other nonsense. How honest and sincere. It made me think of myself as the party pooper. Buy until EdR ejects me from the party I can't help but criticise the music where necessary. And compliment when it is good. (Monday 16 July 2018; 19:28)

The Silence of the Lambs (83,144) by Andrew from UK If you really cannot bring yourself to defend the atrocity of the vocal performance that is underway in Nevada, is it easier for you to shoot those who criticise it? Argumentum ad hominem is a particularly ineffective debating tool. I am probably not the first to compliment Mariah on a job well done. But I'll do it. The Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour was a class act and I reviewed it as such. The Butterfly Returns is diabolical. Celine lips parts but it is not doubted that she can physically sing. Ask Mariah to sing Love of My Life? She can't even sing I Still Believe. So am I a negative person for pointing out? Perhaps. But what else do you expect? Where you see negativity I see truth. And I can plan better things in my head for Mariah rather than just clapping her on be back for every crap thing she does. (Monday 16 July 2018; 19:10)

Re: (83,142) (83,143) by Victoria from USA It's always the same miserable person. Stop reading his post. How hard is that? (Monday 16 July 2018; 15:18)

Re: (83,141) (83,142) by Shezz from Pk Seriously enough with all the constant dissecting. Yes we all know she lips more than we'd like her to and when she doesn't, her tone is not that great anymore. She's still doing it and she will continue doing it for a few more years to come - that's a whole lot of hours a lot of you will dedicate to picking her apart and bash her. Either try to focus on the positives or just move on. Yes this is a forum to discuss her and you have every right to have negative opinions but how many more years will you keep beating that same old dead horse? Creating such a negative environment ruins it for everybody else who still appreciates whatever she still has to offer. We all still want her to do better and wish she would but I'm sure she and Roc Nation and her label have thought about it and addressed it much more than you have. Her weight and fashion was picked on daily here - she's doing much much better in those departments now - also trying to add non hits to her setlist while still keeping a balance for the casual listener. Let her be please. She is human and she will disappoint you again - many many times. Try to celebrate the times she doesn't. She has the whole vicious world to bring her down anyway. (Monday 16 July 2018; 12:40)

Re: (83,140) (83,141) by Tijl from Belgium Céline uses just as much smoke and mirrors on stage as Mariah does with the only difference being Céline is better at it. Let's move on. I am fed up with the Mariah bashing on this forum. (Monday 16 July 2018; 10:59)

Re: (83,137) (83,140) by Luis from Spain Andrew, Mariah is not Celine. If you consider MC a farce you might need to think why you are registered in a MC forum. They are very different artists and while it is obvious that her voice has changed maybe it is her best at this point. What do you want her to do then? She has been through rough suffering for quite a long time, so give her a break. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 19:14)

Lip sync (83,139) by Atwood from NY Some people on this board are so childish, if you think Mariah can't sing or lip syncs on every song at her concerts, just do yourself and everyone else a favor and move on and get a life, like seriously every time you suspect she doesn't sing live you act as if it is the first time and have to talk about it. Some people don't want so much negativity in their life and just want to enjoy talking positive things about Mariah. Move on, grow up, get over it, nobody really cares what you think. Go find a new artist that you think sings live and enjoy them. I wish I had the time to post negative thoughts about someone not singing live everyday and creating phsyco theories in your head that she presses her ear piece for backup tracking, it's really low. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 15:43)

So far (83,138) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) So far for the new album M has worked with Poo Bear, he said that they have about (7-8) songs that have worked on together. JD and B.Cox, we know that they more one song that they have worked on together as we know their history. There is also Sam Romans, he is a producer/songwriter also signed to Roc Nation. He has also worked with MJB in the past on her London sessions LP. Last but not least she clocked some studio time in with DJ Mustard and TY dolla$. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 14:14)

Re: (83,135) (83,137) by Andrew from UK I'd be confident on stage too if I were not actually singing anything remotely difficult, if I had prerecord doing it for me, if I could stand still for most of the show and walk off laughing at the muppets that paid for the privilege of watching me fart out the same old shit. This was special. Moving. Human. What Mariah is doing is a farce of epic proportions. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 13:10)

Re: Let's play a game (83,128) (83,136) by Andrew from UK Mariah has a song called "Shut Up Andrew"? I hope it's the lead track for her new album. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 12:59)

(83,135) by Luis from Spain Hey you all. It's been a long time since my last post. First off, I got tickets for Madrid's concert and I'm extremely excited since it's my first time attending one of her gigs. 16 years as a lamb and I cannot wait until showtime. I have been watching videos from the new residency and I see her attitude on stage has changed a lot. She seems way more confident which may be due to her healthy physicial appearance but also because she got rid of toxic people. Stella had no experience at all as a manager and, worse, no manners. I still cannot believe such mediocre woman managed Mariah. But RocNation has bad reputation with some artists too (Rita Ora, Kylie, for instance); therefore, I wish she has found the ultimate management which can help her to reach again the mainstream success she deserves. In regards to the upcoming album, I highly doubt it will be released this year. She has too many shows ahead and all of them unrelated to the new project. My guess is that we have to look forward to Spring 2019 which would be much better as she would need an A-list PR campaign. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 11:34)

Re: JD (83,133) (83,134) by Licia from USA As a long time fan of her and JD working together I do have to agree on them not trying to make another WBT. (Although I do love DFAU. That's the best WBT rehash imo.) I am however always open to hearing what they come up with. Love him or hate him they work well together. He may not be Walter Alka Seltzer, but he's still good. (Sunday 15 July 2018; 02:13)

JD (83,133) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) For one millionth time JD is not the only producer she has clocked studio time with so relax, and if we are being honest YDKWTD was one of the standout songs from MIAM it just didn’t not get the proper treatment. If they can create a great mid tempo or a fire uptempo I would appreciate that. A ballad would be ok as long as they stay away from anything similar to WBT. I am sure that they have worked on more than one track let’s just wait to see the final results. (Saturday 14 July 2018; 23:14)

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