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Re: SWHOF (87,563) (87,570)
by RibbonB from USA
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People don't understand, or ignore, the fact that there are two categories of nominees. Mariah is in the performing category and Dallas is in non performing. The voters vote to induct three writers from each, so Mimi just didn't get enough votes to beat Missy, but maybe she was close. Now Jermaine and Mariah were nominated in performing category in 2018 and I think Mimi should have been inducted before him, but she might need to improve her networking. I am assuming Jermaine is considered a performer, but I didn't double check. As someone said Missy has worked with many artists and she interacts with them on social media.
(Wednesday 16 January 2019; 01:17)
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Missy (87,569)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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As for Missy I feel like this is her big moment since she has yet to receive a video vanguard award or any major Lifetime achievement award. Honestly speaking Missy's writing output has been minimal for about a decade now. I believe that the committee is favoring the rappers now because for the last three years rappers have been inducted into the Hall of Fame on their first try. Hopefully the committee does MC justice and give her, her just due as it is much deserved. Hopefully her 30th anniversary in the entertainment industry will be her year she begins to receive the flowers she has worked so hard for (2020).
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 21:29)
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Re: Why doesn't Mariah get tributes like Janet? (87,554) (87,568)
by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
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I adore Mariah and listen to her catalogue more frequently, but I love Janet. Her last album for me was fantastic, and I can't sit here and say that I fully agree that tribute shows mean an artists career is over. I do however feel artists that combine music and dance are rare few and far between now and this is probably a factor especially for visual tributes as this_is_qhm mentioned.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 20:51)
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Re: SWHOF (87,556) (87,567)
by Terna from Nigeria
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You should also take into consideration that Mariah hasn't really written for others as much as Missy Misdemeanor has. Missy has a wide spectrum of artists she's written and produced for in more genres than Mariah has, so yes I think Missy deserved it more this go around. Mariah definitely would get inducted too just not this year.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 20:06)
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Re: SWHOF (87,561) (87,566)
by Lee from USA
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Exactly what I have been saying for years. How could they induct the womanizing baby daddy of Chili but complain about Mimi's image? I saw that TLC movie, and Austin was a teenager away from being the next R. Kelly.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 18:35)
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Re: SWHOF (87,545) (87,565)
by B from USA
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Agreed.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 18:15)
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With You (87,564)
by B from USA
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I'm glad Epic and Mariah have given and are still giving With You a chance because if they had released a second single With You would've faded into obscurity. I'm just glad it's still doing well on Adult Contemporary and R&B radio and charts. Havana was released in October of 2017 and didn't top the Hot 100 until January 2018. I'm not saying With You is going to be Mariah's 19th #1 but I think it will eventually chart on the Hot 100 and become a top 40 hit and the follow up single the A No No remix will be a top 10 hit if Mariah and her team are able to get Cardi to record a verse or two. The third single should be Caution. Caution has more streams on Spotify and more views on YouTube than A No No. Besides, GTFO and With You, Caution has more streams of Spotify and views on YouTube.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 18:04)
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Re: SWHOF (87,561) (87,563)
by Licia from USA
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That's not basically what Missy said.That didn't mean she thinks someone else is more deserving than her. That meant she respects the hell out of everyone nominated. Anyway although I do agree it's due time for Mariah to be inducted, I'm not going to act as if Missy hasn't contributed to the industry as well. Probably not 17 number ones contribution, but she's accomplished alot still. Congrats to her. As for Dallas Austin he has a pretty impressive resume as well, but I agree that I wouldn't have chosen him over Mariah. He's just as deserving though.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 16:04)
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Re: Why doesn't Mariah get tributes like Janet? (87,548) (87,562)
by B from USA
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Because Janet is a Jackson. The industry and public view Janet as a legacy act and they view Mariah as someone who has the potential to make a comeback.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 15:58)
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Re: SWHOF (87,556) (87,561)
by B from USA
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Missy basically said Mariah deserved to be inducted when she said, "Also those who were nominated because their body of work is amazing." Mariah's ultra femme persona is most likely she was overlooked. Why they inducted Dallas Austin and snubbed Mariah Carey is beyond me.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 15:08)
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Re: Article: Mariah looks incredible (87,558) (87,560)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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With all due respect, like most in the industry, she have had some work, but I think the doctors have been brilliant. She has subtle changes without looking like a plastic surgery wreck. There are people both younger and older than Mariah that have "plastic surgery faces". I think Mariah looks really good.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 13:21)
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Mariah looks incredible (87,559)
by Dove from United States
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Mariah looked incredible when she performed The Distance on The Tonight Show, With You at the AMAs, and the hits medley at the iHeart Music show. I love her ensembles lately. Just caught this one.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 12:21)
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Article: Mariah looks incredible (87,558)
by TJ from Norway
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I really, really hope that Mariah stop having all the plastic "fantastic" surgeries. People claims that she look good all the time on Instagram etcetera, and that she isn't aging. Just Google Mariah Carey 2014 or 2015 and look at the difference in her eyes. What on earth has she done with those beautiful eyes that she used to have? It's so sad that she won't age naturally and that she is becoming more and more like Michael Jackson. Or an alien. There are powerful women in the movie industry who age with style, I guess people in the music industry can as well. I don't believe it will affect her sales if she stops using fillers or botox or whatever. Peace.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 10:27)
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Re: SWHOF (87,556) (87,557)
by RibbonB from USA
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Voting for the SWHOF is by members only. Politics may be involved, or just differences of opinion. It's really not fair to assume it's either Missy or Mariah, as Annie Lennox wasn't inducted either. Each year a pool of eligible songwriters are nominated in two categories, performing or non-performing songwriters. Somebody is always gonna get left behind. Hopefully Mariah won't be the Susan Lucci of the Song Writers Hall of Fame though, for years, always a nominee, never an inductee. It's great that she is still creating content, but is she putting out too much with diminished quality? Caution reviews aside, it's really not that epic.
(Tuesday 15 January 2019; 02:41)
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SWHOF (87,556)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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We love Ms Elliot and all that she embodies, but Mariah is a much more prolific songwriter (there I said it) and was definitely robbed.
A small part of me can’t help but to feel Wendy publicly discrediting Mariah’s pen game on her show play a very small role in swaying the vote, but I could be reaching to just blame somebody. Anyways congrats to Missy. I really do love her as an artist.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 22:57)
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Radio airplay - With You (87,555)
by Leito from USA
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With You is current #6 Urban AC, #10 AC and #35 HAC. I'm still waiting for another single or video from Caution.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 22:31)
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Re: Why doesn't Mariah get tributes like Janet? (87,548) (87,554)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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It's much easier to pay tribute to a visual artist. Janet's career is filled with such impeccable and memorable choreography and has a videography that is just as remarkable as Madonna's without feeling too forced. So even if Janet's hits are far less remembered and replayed than Mariah's, in an increasingly visual generation, it makes more sense for shows to be swayed towards doing tributes that rely on spectacle over vocals alone.
But we should really take it as a compliment as well. It just means that it's much easier to find current dancers who can dance like or even better than Janet at any point in her career than find current singers who are even half as good as Mariah was during her prime. Hell, even singers who can pretty much sing present Mariah under the table in terms of ease, range and fluidity are easily knocked down several pegs due to Mariah's unique tone alone.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 19:14)
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Re: How did I miss this? (87,550) (87,553)
by SM from Citizen of the World
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I wish it was on the US Caution album. Such an inspiring song. Mariah gets me everytime.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 17:50)
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Re: How did I miss this? (87,550) (87,552)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Its called Runaway and it's on the Japanese version, a little bonus track. This era's biggest mistake was not finding a place for that song. It's so real and so inspirational. It should also be the final single of the era and Mariah need to release it worldwide.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 16:08)
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Re: Why doesn't Mariah get tributes like Janet? (87,548) (87,551)
by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway
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Well, I think most people in the industry feel Janet's career is very much over, and therefore show her tribute. I think it's a good thing Mariah doesn't get that attention yet, because I think people in the industry feel Mariah still have potential for another revival. Wait with the tributes until she has retired. Maybe I'm dellusional, but blissfully so.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 14:33)
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How did I miss this? (87,550)
by Alexis from USA
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YouTube recommended this song to me, today, but apparently it has been out since Christmas. Does anyone know why it isn't on the album?
(Monday 14 January 2019; 14:32)
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Re: SWHOF (87,545) (87,549)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Well, you know how legitimately legendary artists are treated in this world. It doesn't matter how big of a name you have or how essential your contribution is to music as a whole, you still will be denied of the accolades you deserve in favor of lesser acts. The whole "you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone" concept is most applicable to music than in any other field ever. I you're lucky, the best you'd probably get is "you don't know what you've got 'til it's late and no one cares anymore". The music industry, out of all facets in entertainment, is the most notorious and brutal for breaking its own stars. It's also the least forgiving. It's actually a miracle that Mariah is still doing her thing. The fact that she's quite possibly the only legend alive who is still capable of the success she's having three decades into her career is just a huge bonus.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 12:23)
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Why doesn't Mariah get tributes like Janet? (87,548)
by Sheila from United States
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I'm watching these Janet tributes all over these award shows and wonder. She has not sold 1/2 the records Mariah has or had as many number 1's. I will never understand why the public gives her such a hard time.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 11:48)
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With You #1 (87,547)
by Jenny from South Africa
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With You is number 1 on my local radio station's top 40 chart currently. They only really started playing it on the station in December.
(Monday 14 January 2019; 05:38)
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Re: R. Kelly (87,544) (87,546)
by RibbonB from USA
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Well it wasn't Mariah shade. He asked the questions about Jay-Z and R Kelly.
(Sunday 13 January 2019; 23:59)
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