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Re: Daydream (75,754) (75,765)
by Terna from Nigeria
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No I beg to differ, a lyric soprano and a spinto soprano are two very different voices. The term "spinto" is what's referring to a pushed sound. So when someone is classified a lyric - spinto she has the ability to push and cut through loud orchestration or in modern times, loud music, although it's not advisable because she's not a true spinto. Mariah isn't a light lyric spinto that would be someone like say Ariana, Jessie J or Cheryl Gamble (Coko), her voice is much thicker than those three and has a heft to it. Celine isn't a spinto at all, she's a lyric. Listen to Licia's favorite song "Infinity" (hehe) her voice cuts through on the "dream" part or "Fly like a bird" (her voice is pushed on the "survive" part) and the final belt in "The art of letting go". That's a lyric-spinto. Coloratura just means agile. . Christina is metallic in her belts, too metallic if anything. A mezzo would be Beyoncé and Shirley Caesar.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 14:33)
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Re: Daydream (75,749) (75,764)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Exactly my point. Yes her voice was still smooth and the tone pretty much the same, but the quality was diminishing. I still love that album, especially those songs you mentioned. "Fantasy", "Underneath the stars", "Always be my baby", "Melt Away " and " One Sweet Day".
(Friday 26 May 2017; 14:09)
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Re: Daydream (75,747) (75,763)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Hahaha. I love you for this.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 14:01)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey back in business with Hallmark Channel (75,760) (75,762)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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In case you actually thought I was serious, it was a joke. Edward is awesome, j'adore Edward. Oh look I'm French now haha.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:49)
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Daydream (75,761)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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For me Daydream is a nice blend of pop, R&B and AC with Mariah's voice taking center stage and oh so smooth like butter. This was the begging of her growth and transition as an artist with her full transition coming coming with Butterfly both of these albums represent something special for me for different reasons and I can honestly say are my favorite two MC albums ever.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:37)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey back in business with Hallmark Channel (75,757) (75,760)
by Edouard from France
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Not to be confused with me, Edouard. P.S. I agree with you.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:31)
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Re: Instagram (75,728) (75,759)
by Andrew from UK
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Bill, your words moved me to tears last night. Incredible sentiment, well worded. Time to move on and try to celebrate now, I guess. He was a lively, lovely character. Upbeat Mariah tunes all day, I feel.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:13)
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Re: Daydream (75,747) (75,758)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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"Daydream" is cute and all but "Butterfly" is freaking perfection. That album, the songs, the lyrics, the cover art, the videos, no flaws. The only song I skip on that album is TBO, I know it's a fan favorite, but I just never liked it.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:09)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey back in business with Hallmark Channel (75,753) (75,757)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Edward is a mess and a hater.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:05)
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Re: Andrew (75,737) (75,756)
by Andrew from UK
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That you did it was great; that you tried to claim some glory for it was not. But if it resulted in Mariah knowing that Martyn was a lamb then that's awesome. What wasn't awesome was your silly drunken rant taking a pot shot at me when you know I'm pretty cut up, like some other people, of the hideous manner in which Martyn died. That drunken rambling post about you and some soft porn Titty Caca fancying the Prince William is somewhat of a disgrace and steeped in irony, and whereas before I thought of you just as someone with idiotic opinions now I find you to be incredibly immature. As a result, I promise not to acknowledge your presence if you will not acknowledge mine. Don't reply to me please and don't mention my name. Just go away.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 12:05)
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Re: Daydream (75,736) (75,755)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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B. the same with me. I still have the original cassette that I bought back then. It's like a holy grail of music. Daydream made me a fan so it will always be special to me. Beside this I agree with Edward too. Her voice was so powerful and soft. What a combination. The melodies on this album made me daydream a lot. And I still "freak" out when "Fantasy" gets played. The intro of the original version is everything.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 11:47)
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Re: Daydream (75,745) (75,754)
by darrian liu from taiwan
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Hmm, interesting. A lirico-spinto soprano is just another name for spinto soprano, it basically means "pushed lyric". Mariah is not a spinto soprano, she's a light lyric coloratura soprano. This is because her voice sounds girly, youthful and light. Mariah also has a ton of agility in her voice, a hallmark quality of a light lyric coloratura. Mariah can resonate to great volumes, but it certainly isn't to an extent of a spinto soprano. A spinto soprano would be Whitney Houston in her prime, and as we can hear, her voice "slices" through loud instrumentation (see her performance of One Moment in Time in 1988 Grammys). Her belts also have this metallic quality to it, a similar quality that Celine Dion and Monica Naranjo has. Instead, Mariah's belts sound warmer and sweeter, and she doesn't have the ability to just slice through loud instrumentation like what Whitney has demonstrated (1992 If It's Over Grammy performance, amazing resonance, but at times, her voice almost drowns in the loud backing sounds, even with her enormous resonance), an indication that she is a light lyric. Both Whitney and Celine doesn't have the agility that Mariah has in spades, and all three are developed vocalists. This means that Mariah is in a different vocal fach from them. Yes, in Daydream, her voice was thinning out, but it just emphasizes the lyrical quality in her voice, as her voice was at its lightest, at its warmest and at its most youthful, girly and yes, buttery (along with Merry Christmas and Music Box). I don't really hear the metallic quality in Mariah's voice, could you point out examples of this? And Christina Aguilera isn't a spinto as well. She's a lyric mezzo-soprano, there's literally no metallic quality to her voice whatsoever since her debut until now.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 08:50)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey back in business with Hallmark Channel (75,732) (75,753)
by Licia from USA
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Edward you are a bad lamb for saying that. You know Mariah's acting is Oscar worthy. Lol.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 08:39)
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Re: Instagram (75,728) (75,752)
by Licia from USA
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I'm glad she posted something as well. It was really sweet. It probably meant a lot to his family and friends that she acknowledged him.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 08:37)
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Re: Daydream (75,731) (75,751)
by Stacey from USA
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So you're saying I need a hearing aid? I know I'm turning 40, but no need to rub it in, lol.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 07:25)
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Re: Article: Mariah-Bruno Mars mashups are taking over the internet (75,742) (75,750)
by Tevin from USA
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I just heard it today, they need to figure out how to do this live.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 05:43)
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Re: Daydream (75,745) (75,749)
by Tevin from USA
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She still has some songs like Melt Away, ABMB, Fantasy, and parts of UTS, that her voice had that buttery tone and texture to it. But yes I do think that will her mix voice was probably at its most developed point, I think her chest voice was starting to dimenish, in that I become less rich and thick and more light and airy.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 05:42)
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Stephen from London (75,748)
by Special K from USA
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Hi Stephen. Nice to see you posting again. I hope you are here to stay for awhile.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 02:59)
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Re: Daydream (75,731) (75,747)
by Special K from USA
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Edward says, "But Daydream is definitely Mariah's magnum opus." Special K says in her Kanye West voice, "Imma let you say Daydream is a great album but Butterfly is the greatest Mariah Carey album of all time." Drops microphone and leaves the stage.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 02:55)
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Re: Daydream (75,745) (75,746)
by Philipp from Switzerland
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Daydream is the my least favorite Mariah album, just because it doesn't have a good "flow" to it. It's not one of the albums I listen from beginning to end like MIAM. Please don't hate me lol.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 02:05)
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Re: Daydream (75,731) (75,745)
by Terna from Nigeria
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You'll make a terrible judge as a result of your tendency to be sentimental or is it bias? You obviously have an emotional attachment to that album, hence you can't or won't accept certain opinions. The term "buttery" cannot be used to describe her sound on "Daydream". That would be all her albums and recordings prior to "Daydream". By "Merry Christmas", that full buttery sound was thinning out into a more metallic slightly gritty raw sound though still very sonorous at her mix register that's when she projects and yes very effortless, especially in her whistle register. ("Daydream" was when Mariah actually mastered the used of the whistle register.) But her main chest voice diminished noticeably becoming lighter, airier and less dark. Remember that post a trained soprano wrote about "The diminishing of Mimi"? That's what she was referring to. Mariah's voice wasn't like Whitney Houston and Christina Aguilera who are spintos, they thrill and cut easily and that's their strength (Christina overused hers though) hers was a heavy dark, buttery, firm and very resonant voice and not as bright. Her constant use of the whistles and singing outside her range is culprit. A classically trained vocal coach I follow on YouTube says Mariah's voice type is a "LyricoSpinto coloratura" soprano. Now that's a complicated voice. Lol. Also "Butterfly" is her Magnum opus don't even go there.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 01:26)
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Re: Daydream (75,739) (75,744)
by Terna from Nigeria
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Lol. I was just trying to start sh*t here in order to distract us all, if only temporarily about Martyn.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 00:46)
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Re: Article: Mariah Carey back in business with Hallmark Channel (75,732) (75,743)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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"Eric, are you excited about her upcoming Hallmark movies?" No not at all, I think Mariah is a terrible actress and after all the terrible movies I hope she never acts again. But I saw this news article today and I just wondered what happened with this deal. I hope it gets shelved forever.
(Friday 26 May 2017; 00:03)
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Article: Mariah-Bruno Mars mashups are taking over the internet (75,742)
by Jono from USA
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The Emotions/That's What I Like mashup is incredible. Pow.
(Thursday 25 May 2017; 23:51)
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Re: Martyn who? He is not the only victim (75,698) (75,741)
by Jono from USA
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Delete your account.
(Thursday 25 May 2017; 23:49)
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