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Re: Stop the negativity (77,127) (77,130) by Jamie from UK I don't think it's a case of people being negative, they just want the best for Mariah, and know we know she's capable of greater things. Us older lambs knew Mariah from the beginning so we can see how she's changed over the years, and each change was completely fine... apart from this last year where she had seemed completely different, so you can't blame people coming on here making observations when they're clearly worried about Mariah. (Friday 14 July 2017; 20:58)

Re: Voice coach or operation (77,123) (77,129) by Jamie from UK Yes agree it's totally down to what she feels was just looking for people's opinion on the voice. I agree with you very much on who Mariah is at the moment she's difficult to recognise and I'm worried about her. (Friday 14 July 2017; 20:52)

Re: Stop the negativity (77,127) (77,128) by Gigi from USA Wait a minute - you just posted three days ago about her weight gain. Here's what you said, "She's looking like the next drag superstar with those unnaturally big looking thighs under those shiny nude colored stockings. Again I'm not one to shame somebodies body by any means it's just surprising to see her thighs get so big in literally a month lol. I'm really hoping she didn't do this for Bryan, thinking she'd look better 'slim thick' like Blac Chyna or something, because it really doesn't fit her overall appearance well. Hopefully by the tour with Lionel (I'm seeing her at the San Diego show) her thighs swell down because damn." So how about you take your own advice? Since you're new to this forum, I'll tell you that all of your past posts are saved. We can click on your picture and see everything. Just an FYI. (Friday 14 July 2017; 20:51)

Stop the negativity (77,127) by JD from United States I just joined this forum and you guys are honestly so negative. Mariah isn't 20 anymore lol so either enjoy the music from when she was in her 20s if that's what you want her to still sound like. It's impossible. Whitney was dragged through hell for her voice and weight gain before her death, then directly afterwards everyone swears they lived for her. Honestly Mariah's bar was so high anything lower is gonna be shit to you guys but I am a younger fan (17) and you guys need to stop being so negative constantly. Everyone has ups and downs in their life you can't expect her to be perfect for 27 years straight. I'm seeing her on the 27th with Lionel and I honestly don't care about him I'm just going to see her and I think she'll slay it. Honestly watching videos of performances can seem like they suck or don't sound right, because when you're watching the video all you focus on is the sound. When you're watching somebody live you feel the energy and you're dancing around having fun enjoying the moment. If you guys were there listening to her on the 3rd night of Vegas you'd probably have gotten chills. You can't expect an iPhone recording of a performance to sound as good as in person and/or a studio recording. I'll probably get attacked by you [censored] old lambs on here but honestly? [censored] and let the girl live. She's one of the last greats left alive and we're wasting all this time talking about this crap? You wonder why she doesn't seem as happy, it's not hard to search "Mariah Carey forum" and find this one and you already know Stella googles herself and Mariah constantly, maybe she sees all of you scalping her non stop and feels discouraged when her fanbase is the one being more hateful than the general public. The end. (Friday 14 July 2017; 18:50)

Re: Voice coach or operation (77,119) (77,126) by Musti from UK I don't want her to lose the whistle register. There is no guarantee that surgery will fix the damage done to her voice but there is a real possibility she will lose the whistle register as a result. I think disciplined coaching would help her improve. Listening to her live performances in the last few years it sounds like she's either not sure where to take the note, or she realises last second that she won't be able to replicate the sound in her head, and things end up sounding off. Working with a professional coach could help her ease into the current condition of her voice. (Friday 14 July 2017; 18:09)

Re: The truth (77,117) (77,125) by Bill from the UK You're right. She can't do any melisma anymore. The upper register is lipped. She just sort of... yells in tune I guess is one way of putting it. (Friday 14 July 2017; 18:02)

Re: Beat Shazam, drinking, Tanaka, the studio and Vegas (77,121) (77,124) by B from USA She seemed confused herself. I wish she had stayed on a little longer and wore something that didn't look like something Liz Taylor wore in the 80's. She should have walked out singing Always Be My Baby and greeted the contestants and played a round or two. (Friday 14 July 2017; 16:15)

Re: Voice coach or operation (77,122) (77,123) by MusicfanJ from Germany I don't know, I have the same opinion as Licia. Mariah should take the one, which she feels comfortable with. To be honest I'm on a point where I'm more worried of the person Mariah than of her voice. I can live without her whistle register and I'm ok if she wants to do only singles and some strange commercials. But it hurts to see her in Vegas, Mariah looks like a caricature. So unnatural and again not happy. She or Mishka can post a hundred "fun" Tanaka pictures. I don't believe it. I would love to know what she really thinks inside. She's too smart for the circus but she keeps it. Why? Like someone on this board said, sometimes it looks like self sabotage. Is this the price for her fame? I don't recognize her most of the time. And it makes me so sad. So what I really want is that Mariah finds her inner peace again, her true strength (without playing a role and awkward pics). Hollywood Vegas just no, I prefer the "New York girl". Sorry but I had to speak about my inner feelings. (Friday 14 July 2017; 16:13)

Re: Voice coach or operation (77,119) (77,122) by Licia from USA I would prefer her to do whichever one she feels will be beneficial to her. I love the whistle register, but I don't have to hear it in every song and like you've said she's recorded many great songs without using it. (Friday 14 July 2017; 14:59)

Re: Beat Shazam, drinking, Tanaka, the studio and Vegas (77,113) (77,121) by Dominique from Cape Town, South Africa I absolutely agree with you. I've commented on this video asking some of the viewers to explain what goes here because I can't, for the life of me, understand the point of her appearance. Regarding Vegas, I'm glad that she sounds slightly better, but as a singer myself, I'm not blown away at all. Not even in the slightest. I now avoid talking Mariah to any of the peeps I know who are musically inclined. It's become impossible to defend her. PS. I'm still a fan. (Friday 14 July 2017; 14:37)

MC Vegas vocals (77,120) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia Honestly, I don't mind the vocals. Yes, she should have put some more effort into the first couple of shows, and that is completely unprofessional. But what does bother me is just how unequivocally miserable she looks on stage. She clearly doesn't want to be there. And through it all, she's always (in my opinion) showed up for her fans, as we have always managed to remind her why she does what she does. But something has changed. In saying that though, I've just finished a 5 month tour of Les Mis, and as fun as it was, I can't think of anything worse than doing it again. Same show day in day out got old. Real quick. And 5 months ain't nothing on 27 years. Oh Mariah. (Friday 14 July 2017; 14:29)

Voice coach or operation (77,119) by Jamie from UK Hey guys. Just thought I'd bring this to the table. Would you prefer Mariah got strict vocal training or had an operation to remove her nodules and risk loosing the whistle register? I personally would go for the operation, as Mariah has done so many great songs without the whistle register i.e. All I've Ever Wanted, Everything Fades Away, My All to speak of a few. If she could get good quality back in her voice I'd prefer that. And I think it would give her the confidence to perform great again. Let me know your views. (Friday 14 July 2017; 14:28)

Re: Lionel Richie Facebook fans attack Mariah (77,115) (77,118) by Licia from USA Nope her goal needs to be to shut them up from the first night that tour starts. We let her get away with that third show stuff, but these fans will not. She has to bring her A game from the start to finish. (Friday 14 July 2017; 13:25)

Re: The truth (77,107) (77,117) by Myles from CT, USA I hate to agree but I'm still looking for the proof. Everything sounds dry and Katy Perryish. It pains me to say that but there's no fluidity in her voice. It doesn't sound pleasant, for years now. (Friday 14 July 2017; 13:21)

Re: Article: Braless Mariah Carey unloads mega cleavage (77,103) (77,116) by Licia from USA Well you know boobs, booze, and boy toys are uber important right now. According to some that's what is making her relevant and so popular. Lol. (Friday 14 July 2017; 13:19)

Lionel Richie Facebook fans attack Mariah (77,115) by Sheila from United States I have a feeling Mariah is going to slay the Lionel shows, I think she's gonna approach this like she did the third night of her Vegas shows where she's ready to silence the haters. (Friday 14 July 2017; 12:47)

Article: Mariah Carey's "Butterfly" turns 20 this year (77,114) by BMP from indonesia Transition from Whitney Houston to Janet Jackson style. More slow dance, hip hop, interlude between songs, and sexy. (Friday 14 July 2017; 12:46)

Beat Shazam, drinking, Tanaka, the studio and Vegas (77,113) by Randy from USA Did anyone feel like me, like why she was there? She came out, hugged a few contestants, sat at the piano while they showered her with love and compliments and then she left. I don't know the show, but is that what celebrities come on there and do regularly? MC should definitely be in a studio working but I don't think all this touring will distract her, didn't she record Rainbow in like 3 months and the JD tracks on TEOM over a week? As far as her drinking, I do see she's always indulging but I will choose to be delusional there until she's falling out of a club drunk. Tanaka is gorgeous but it baffles me how a living legend could be flaunting her boy toy but then again didn't Cher date a guy in the bagel shop in the 80s? They were all over the tabloids. And Madonna and JLo also are known for their boytoys. I feel we are too hard on MC but yeah the wheels are definitely coming off. I'm still riding for her, but jeez y'all should see how other boards, blogs and Facebook groups are eating her alive about what you guys think sound good live in Vegas. (Friday 14 July 2017; 12:42)

Oversinging / young singers (77,112) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Mariah has often been criticized for oversinging, especially during her earlier albums, which she actually has admitted in an interview before. But even her oversinging then pales in comparison to the desperate attempts of today's generation of singers. Have you heard Demi's newest single? Girl is just obnoxiously screaming her lungs out in the chorus. Poor Demi. She really can't catch a break, can she? She'll have the occasional top ten single but then fizzles out quickly. Out of her contemporaries, she's had the least impact and is easily the most forgettable. She can try, but she'll never be as edgy and kooky as Miley, nor can she ever have Selena's ear for great experimentation and quirky vocal delivery. Loving Fetish, by the way. It's like Good For You part two. Nice. (Friday 14 July 2017; 12:32)

Re: Article: Braless Mariah Carey unloads mega cleavage (77,103) (77,111) by TJ from Norway So sad. Just so sad. Too bad Eric doesn't have the first 1000 posts from the message board. I'm forgetful at times, but I'm sure I remember the topics were a bit different. It wasn't about boobs or alcohol. (Friday 14 July 2017; 11:39)

Studio now (77,110) by Ben from Sweden I wish for Mariah to stop singing live and focus on studio work. Her voice is done but can pull it off in a relaxed environment, a studio. (Friday 14 July 2017; 10:46)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,090) (77,109) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia "But I do also have the awful feeling that she'll end up like Michael and Whitney, and then there wouldn't be hope anymore. I wish for her to be there for her children and see them go to college, but there's clearly something very off with Mariah that only the delusional ones refuse to see." You described my worries very well. From MJ to Whitney to Prince to George Michael, my worries come to the max. I don't want to believe those wild stories surrounding these celebrities, the conspiracies and the evil in the music industry. To see what had happened to Mariah, I pray for her not to end up like her friends. I want her to witness her 19th #1, but not from heaven. I cry while I am typing this. I love Mariah very very much. (Friday 14 July 2017; 09:26)

Re: Why you mad at Mariah? (77,097) (77,108) by Victor from Costa Rica Don't think I don't understand what you feel. I do have high expectations for her. Sometimes they are fulfilled, sometimes they aren't. My point here (with the initial post) is that if you have a problem and you spend all day long talking about that problem, you will never leave it behind and won't be able to move on because you will be surounded by the toxicity that comes with it and at the end you will be the problem because it will get materialized through you. I guess that is what happened with the lambily. We haven't been able to manage frustration/ dissapointment on a healthy way and we are helping to make things worse than what they really are. Some drama is good, but this shit is 0. Hahaha. (I'm talking about the Lambily.) My advise is: Count your blessings instead of your misery. Life will be better for her and us with the right approach. (Friday 14 July 2017; 07:00)

Re: The truth (77,095) (77,107) by 123 from USA Here's your proof. Vision of Love 7/11/17. (Friday 14 July 2017; 06:59)

Re: The truth (77,095) (77,106) by Victor from Costa Rica [censored] Aren't you tired of being perceived as a negative person, or tired of misrepresenting your self image that way? Of course she can sing. She sings different from how she used to sing and that my friend is called aging and life. No one can stay the same along the way. If you pay attention to her voice, it carries scars from experience and her voice has evolved to a level that is beyond our comprehension. I wish you could understand and enjoy without judging. (Friday 14 July 2017; 06:44)

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