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Re: Mariah forgets the camera in this interview (74,022) (74,024)
by Edouard from France
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I think I made a typo. I meant a very nice French interview.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 15:44)
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Re: What I don't get about MC's networth (74,020) (74,023)
by Lila from United States
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No one knows Mariah's net worth and that includes Forbes. The formula or formulas that Forbes uses has never been proven to be valid. Forbes and other net worth sites grossly overestimate celebrity networths more than anything. Net worth is assets minus debt, so to calculate it you would have to know each to calculate someone's net worth. Then on top of not knowing celebrities true assets and debts, a lot of these sites also act like celebrities don't have to pay taxes on income earned when they do and don't have lawyers, assistants, managers, chauffeurs, other employees, kids, and the upkeep of any properties or planes. Then there's still the expensive clothing, vacations, and the like. It's not weird that Mariah doesn't publish how much she makes. No one does. It's not smart for anyone to go around talking about their money. The only exceptions are those who own publicly traded companies or those who work in public jobs but make over a certain figure.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 14:08)
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Mariah forgets the camera in this interview (74,022)
by Edouard from France
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A very icy French interview that I had never seen before. A nice journalist, good questions, true answers even to the questions she doesn't want to really answer. It's a radio interview where she's being filmed and you can sense that's she's comfortable having this conversation with the host. She forgets about the camera. This is Mariah, the one everybody in the business talks about (Leed [sic] Daniels, Jussie Smolett, Kelly Clarkson, etc.). The beautiful soul.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 11:55)
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Mariah, beautiful inside and out (74,021)
by Edouard from France
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I just watched the Glaad awards again. Rarely has any show captured Mariah's soul so well. You can tell how beautiful she is inside and out through Lee Daniels speech. Her sense of humour and how humble she is through her speech. How funny she is and how she doesn't take herself too seriously at the 3'40 of Laverne Cox's speech. I love this woman.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 11:36)
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What I don't get about MC's networth (74,020)
by Nikki from usa
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It never changes. She's been estimated at over 500 million since 2010. By 2012, they claimed 510 million as if that's all she made in that time period. By 2014, everyone and their brother claimed over 520 million. Even Forbes publicly put her in their yearly list for 2015 with an estimated 27 million in earnings for just that year from what they knew and could calculate. We're now in 2017 and Mariah's net worth hasn't budged. I don't think anyone's calculated it truly. I do wonder just how accurate it was to begin with when so many publications don't even recognize she's a songwriter and producer too or that most of her tours have been done overseas. Where most of the data on her tours are concerned they're primarily for the US and sometimes Europe only. Mariah is odd for a diva in the sense that she never publicizes just how much she's making. Ironically, it was the leak of her prenup in 2009 that led to the 500 million figure when it was realized she had over 170 million in cold hard cash in the bank which made Forbes original estimate for the previous year of 225 million grossly underrated for a net worth.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 05:55)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,019)
by Bill from the UK
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What a great post Marissa, thank you. I have been listening to the debut album non-stop lately, and it's because I want to "recapture all of the memories". That album for me is a window into the little girl who listened to the radio under the covers, sang with her mother, skipped school to write and record songs in a funky woodshop, and who had no proper shoes upon her feet. The little girl that believed in herself enough and knew what she wanted. She was beautiful, she sang beautifully, she wrote beautiful songs. When I listen to Vanishing now, I can't help but see it as me singing it to her. The lyrics are so poignant now. You're vanishing, drifting so far away, you're vanishing, you're vanishing away.
(Wednesday 29 March 2017; 00:53)
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Sumpin' nice (74,018)
by Andrew from UK
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Time to say something nice. Been listening to Mariah all day whilst working from home. Isn't funny how we sing what Mariah sings, and not the chorus? It's not just that she comes up with the melodies and lyrics, thus, the songs - it's the actual vocal over the top that provides another ancillary melody - the main melody. AYNAF would not be the same song without the way she ad libs. Fantasy would not be the same song with just the chorus - I haven't sung the chorus in twenty years, except for "on and on and on" (shout out to Luke and his "on and on and on" knowledge). It's like she used to create songs, and then make them exciting when she stood in front of the mic. We need that again. So there. Sumpin' nice. Take it. Or leave it. Whatever.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 23:22)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,017)
by Norman from USA
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Amen to that, Marissa.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 22:37)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,008) (74,016)
by Stacey from USA
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Loved every word. Probably the most spot on post about Mariah's current situation I've ever read. Thank you.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 22:12)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,008) (74,015)
by Marissa from USA
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It doesn't matter how legitimate anyone's plea for Mariah is. No one is listening. That's the bitter truth that no one wants to accept. No one is intimidated or moved by the rants, complaints, or scathing articles. There are three options: emotionally detach from what Mariah does, leave the fanbase or stay miserable. It comes down to the age old question: would you rather be right or happy? After years of begging, pleading and trying to negotiate with someone who isn't even listening to me, I'm finally ready to be happy. For me the best option is to emotionally detach (with love) from Mariah's actions for my own sanity. If any of you have ever had a loved one with addiction issues, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It doesn't mean that you don't care that they're out on a meth or cocaine binge. It means that you're letting their actions control whether or not you have peace of mind. I'm no longer living in fear of her next mistake or disaster. She's going to do what she wants to do. That doesn't mean I like it, it means that I'm no longer taking emotional responsibility for the consequences of her decisions. If people are that disturbed by her behavior then take action. Tired of unprepared vocals? Stop going to/tuning into her performances. Tired of boring music? Stop buying the albums. Tired of contrived storylines? Don't tune into Mariah's World. Thinks she has an arrogant attitude? Don't pay for a meet-n-greet. Hold her accountable through actions rather than being a martyr who's going to continue to give her money, likes and views but continuously complain when you're perpetuating the vicious cycle. If anyone is tired of their blood pressure skyrocketing in fear every time Mariah hits a stage, gives an interview, or posts a picture, join me in detaching because trying to control a person is not worth it.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 21:00)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,008) (74,014)
by B from USA
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I truly feel it's time, past time, for you to move on.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 20:17)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,006) (74,013)
by B from USA
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It wasn't Mariah's attitude. While Mariah was at Sony (even after the divorce) they played up the perfect pop princess and she was basically untouchable. Once she left Sony the press pounced especially after Loverboy only reached #2 on the Hot 100. The media didn't bother to listen to her complaints of sabotage until a man validated her claims. It was sexism. Now she's got to fight sexism and ageism to succeed.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 20:16)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,012)
by B from USA
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I recently came to the same conclusion. Awards and charts don't matter at the end of the day. As long she continues to release music I'll always be a Lamb. However, I still believe she'll make another comeback. Not under Stella's regime though. She needs to clean house. She also needs new collaborators and producers. JD should've been left in 2005. Sorry not sorry. When was his last hit, real hit, 2006?
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 20:08)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,011)
by Sasha from Nomansland
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She reminds me of a fallen queen reigning on a deserted kingdom, surrounded by what remains of her court. Stella and Tanaka being the court jesters of course. Hail to the delusional queen.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 18:19)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,008) (74,010)
by Jose Jaam Andrion from Panama
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Totally agree with you.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 16:17)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,009)
by Licia from USA
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I don't want to change her nor do I care about her accolades. I just want her to give me quality music and not some half assed tracks she's pushing out to try to shut people up. If she's not feeling the music at the moment then I respect that, but I'd rather her just stop doing music all together and focus only on her side deals instead of pushing out mediocre stuff. That's my biggest gripe with her. She can show her full twat to the world (I'll ignore that like I ignore the recent nipple pics) and she could not get another number 1 or award for all I care. As long as she makes great music, that's all I've ever cared about. Again if music is not where her head is at then she just should stop.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 15:44)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,006) (74,008)
by Andrew from UK
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Ever wondered what Mariah thinks people think of her? She acts like a stuck-up b***h then cries that people misjudge her. She gets her tits out at every opportunity (treating everyone now, desperately, to nipples) then slams the phone down when people make derogatory comments about them. She airbrushes her body in every image then acts like a horny soft porn actor when a camera is aimed at her and cries that people don't take her seriously. She performs badly then cries that production companies are picking on her. She makes a really awful reality show then looks annoyed when people refuse to show it respect. She makes really, really bad music and will definitely cry when her label drops her. You have to ask: does she actually have a frickin' clue about anything? Does she not see what most of the world thinks about her? The never-ending argument that Mariah is a victim is just incredibly weak, and it has been for years and years. She is a victim of her own attitude and her own behaviour. The saving grace was the music. Well, we all know what happened to that. Nobody is hassling Mariah to break records or number ones. They are demanding something in return for their time and their money. They want Mariah to act like a professional, produce professional, respectable products, and push them with the intent of showing people that her fans and lambs aren't absolute idiots for following her for the best part of their lives. At the very least, a few tracks that aren't painful to listen to would be a good place to start.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 15:09)
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Re: Brett Ratner (74,004) (74,007)
by Edouard from France
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Exactly, who knows? I'm sure he's still good friends with her. But he also has business ties with him.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 13:29)
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Re: The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001) (74,006)
by Lee from UK
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The reason why Mariah was treated so harshly after Glitter was (and still is) very much to do with her attitude. If it had been Celine or any other singer in Mariah's league, it would have been a relatively small issue. I believe the general public had been waiting a long time to have a go at Mariah especially the UK media. Mariah's "diva" behaviour is more legendary than her music. Ask any non-lamb what first comes to mind when they hear the name Mariah Carey, they will not say "Vision of Love" or "Hero" or "high notes"; what you will find is they say "ugh" with a rather exasperated tone. When people have it all and then act like it is such a burden or they act like they are special or better than anyone else, or that they should be treated differently, we love to see them fall from grace. That was Mariah's Glitter moment. Mariah recently asked why does she have to keep having come-backs as though she is constantly proving herself. The answer is probably because she hasn't really changed. She plays up to the diva image a lot more now and makes it seem as though it is a joke but for those who are watching waiting for the next Glitter moment, it is likely to just be fodder to pelt her with.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 12:52)
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Re: Brett Ratner (73,998) (74,005)
by B from USA
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She ended her faux relationship with his business partner (investor) JP.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 11:19)
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Re: Brett Ratner (73,998) (74,004)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Kris did wish her on her birthday, he may not have gone on the trip because he has several A list clients so he might have some prior engagements. About Brett, he has been MIA from Mariah's circle since the break up with James but it can also be because of their schedules. Mariah has been quite busy and Brett also has been busy. Maybe he called her to wish her instead of doing it publicly, who knows?
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 11:19)
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Re: Emotions (2017 TMC Radio Mix) (73,985) (74,003)
by Ben from Sweden
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If you'd like an MP3 of it, use this website which I did.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 10:53)
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Birthday/anniversary (74,002)
by Tameka walker from United states
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Happy birthday to the most prolific singer songwriters of your time. You have always been my favorite singer in the known world. You are the greatest singer in the world and on the planet. Please make an album and show everyone that you and only you have what it takes to last more than three decades. I am greedy I still know in my heart that you can surpass the Beatles. And get more number ones. You can do it, I believe in you if any one can break records it is you. You just have to work with LA Reid and be willing to accept his guidance. Love you, happy birthday, treat it as a holiday.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 09:28)
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The uselessness of trying to change someone (74,001)
by Marissa from USA
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I've been away from the board for a while and have been having a lot of spiritual awakenings lately, and it's made my idea of being a lamb change drastically. One thing that I and other lambs are guilty of doing is pushing Mariah to attain more accolades and success. I finally realized, what do these external achievements even matter? Mariah had nothing but multi-platinum albums, had the longest running #1 single in history and was considered a member of the vocal trinity but was still dragged after Glitter, her first real career mistake, as if she was the world's worst singer. Asking Mariah to keep making hits, get a better stylist, etc. for the gp to perceive her better is like a dog chasing its tail. The minute you screw up they don't remember anything good that you've done. I'll never forget when Mariah was performing at the Billboard Awards in 2015 and they had a clip of all of her huge achievements, and not even 40% of the audience gave her a standing ovation. No one cared. We are fans of the most successful female singer of all time and people still aren't content with what she's done, including myself at times. If that's not proof that telling her to do more/do better is not the answer, then I don't know what is. Don't get me wrong, just because I no longer feel the need to beg or get angry about her actions doesn't mean that I don't have preferences. I would prefer great lyricism and robust vocals, but I know that above all else I want her to get right spiritually, and I can't bully her into awakening. Like it or not, in actuality it's Mariah's career to prosper or destroy. We don't own her or her career. She didn't attach herself to us, we attached ourselves to her and decided to become fans, so it's our responsibility to either ride it out or move on. She's just living her life. If we choose to take the effects of that personally then that's our issue. Mainly I think we should go from urging Mariah to attain all of these worldly achievements that people only care about momentarily and instead hope that she gets in touch with her soul again. When that happens, all other things that we complain about will fall into place. I'm not saying pretend to be happy about everything she does. My only point is to give her the space to go through her confusion. Wish her the best instead of getting angry. Don't get offended by her actions but just see through them as to what the real issue is. Pray for her. She's lost. If she was really in her right mind do you think she would have been doing half of the shit she's done lately? Maybe if we put the energy into praying for her that we do into scolding her then a change might come about. This is not coming from some Pollyanna place. It's just the realization that supporting someone is about being compassionate, not angry. If you're feeling the latter then it's about possessiveness and seeing her as a means to an end (the key to your entertainment, happiness, etc) that has nothing to do with actually caring about her as a person. Ultimately, I'm choosing to care about Mariah, not her career. Her career will end at some point anyway. I just hope that she gets well.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 08:54)
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Re: Emotions (2017 TMC Radio Mix) (73,977) (74,000)
by Stacey from USA
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I'd love an mp3 too.
(Tuesday 28 March 2017; 05:10)
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