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Re: Finally able to speak (72,902) (72,923) by B from USA Either Stella lied or DCP lied to save face. I'm leaning towards Stella because after the debacle she gave countless interviews. Or she could have seen it as her big break and blew it out of proportion (added gas to the fire) with her claims of sabotage knowing the media frenzy it was causing. (Monday 20 February 2017; 4:16)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,905) (72,922) by B from USA The Grammy's aren't the be all end all when it comes to the music industry. Billboard the industry bible has called the Grammy show uninspired and boring. Many more music publications and blogs have as well. Especially after Taylor Swift won Album of the Year for 1989 over To Pimp A Butterfly. (Monday 20 February 2017; 4:11)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,907) (72,920) by B from USA She was the odds on favorite to win Pop Vocal Album, both Female Vocal Performance awards, and Song and Record of the Year. They also always award the artist who leads in nominations and us used to promote the telecast. Mariah won three in 2006 but in 1996 she was shut out and the reason behind it was Tommy and her marriage to him. She didn't start gaining respect in the industry until she left Tommy. (Monday 20 February 2017; 4:04)

Re: The Grammys foiled me (72,908) (72,917) by B from USA Sad but true. However, I wouldn't say Beyonce is a better singer than Adele. Queen B can sing but I view her as an entertainer not a vocalist like Mariah and Whitney. Bey reminds me of Janet Jackson. I've only like one song by Beyonce since IASF 7/11. 4, Beyoncé, and Lemonade are overrated. I also find her phonie. She grew up in a middle class suburb. She isn't ghetto. To clarify Beyonce lived a privileged and sheltered upbringing. I've lived in the projects. (Monday 20 February 2017; 3:59)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,907) (72,916) by JC from USA I disagree. While I agree Mariah was totally snubbed that year (I remember watching it, loved her green dress), Jagged Little Pill was much more complex in terms of songwriting and many people remember the hits the album spawned (You Oughta Know, Ironic, Hand in My Pocket, Head Over Feet, etc.). Personally, I agree that ABMB or Fantasy should've been recognized, but I do not think the snug was a racial issue. It more likely had more to do with Mariah receiving special treatment in Sony days including bigger budgets and promotion. Also, during this era, it should be noted that Mariah was often criticized for a lack of soul and being seemingly contrived. All of her hits were very formulaic, though I'm proud of her for pioneering the R&B/pop collabo with Fantasy. After the divorce, her music, IMO, became even better but less recognized. Butterfly is a beautiful album where she actually emotes and stops playing it so safe. (Monday 20 February 2017; 3:56)

Re: Article: Sigala set to collaborate with Mariah Carey (72,909) (72,915) by B from USA Haven't heard of him but if Mariah praised his cover and is going to work with him I'm willing to give him a chance. Liking something is objective no one likes the same thing someone else does. Different strokes for different folks. (Monday 20 February 2017; 3:53)

Re: Blind item (72,900) (72,914) by B from USA Maybe recent events and seeing how smoothly a tour can run when the artist has a capable manager has opened her eyes. Stella isn't capable of managing a superstar, she's barely able to manage her own personal life. This leak reeks of a cheap Chanel #5 knockoff and blush. Mariah is about to clean house again and Stella is going into spin mode. She'll say what JD said ie I had excellent ideas but Mariah refuses to take her career serioualy. She'll throw Mariah under the bus in an attempt to save face and show her true colors. Mariah would be wise to clean house and hire a manager with credentials and connections. She's reverted to refusing to talk about her personal life and gave two outstanding performances on Kimmel. Mariah's still in there she's just hidden by all the clutter (Russian leeches). (Monday 20 February 2017; 3:50)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,906) (72,913) by Marissa from USA Also, it wouldn't hurt you to do your research before implying that I'm not a lamb. I just said her Kimmel performance was amazing, defended her when people called her performance boring, thought I Don't was a bop despite YG's rap, etc. Yet, I say something that isn't sunshine and rainbows in this moment and I'm now a goat. I'm both vocal about the things that I find positive and negative, so good luck figuring out what box to put me in. In fact, put me in a box called "grown woman who doesn't feel the need to bow down to anonymous people online, whether that means I'm perceived as a lamb or not". The "are you a fan?" bait is old. The textbook definition of a fan: "a person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing". Notice the word "or" in that sentence. Over the past couple of years I will admit my admiration has waxed and waned but my interest has never wavered, hence my 21 pages of messages on this website. (Monday 20 February 2017; 2:32)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,907) (72,912) by Lila from United States No, I'm chalking it up to exactly what I'm seeing and that's bratty behavior. She didn't even let the guy finish his question before she rudely interrupted him to give a tactless statement and then went on to talk about being foiled over not winning an award years ago, like that's even possible. It's not. Grammy awards aren't given out based on what's more impactful 10+ years later. The members vote on what they like and/or feel is best in that moment. Again, that criterion is subjective and again who even knows how many votes Mariah actually lost by. It could've been a very small amount; it could've been just one. Mariah was not snubbed. Snubbed would've been her album not being nominated at all. (Monday 20 February 2017; 2:02)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,905) (72,906) (72,911) by Marissa from USA Definition of waning: "decrease in vigor, power, or extent; become weaker". According to this definition, Mariah's voice has waned. Even "positive lambs" will acknowledge that she doesn't sound the way she used to. That's called waning. That doesn't mean she's a bad singer. I just said 2 days ago that she sounded stellar at Jimmy Kimmel. Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston and Celine's voice have waned as well and they were all great artists. I refuse to see telling the truth as disrespect. People really need to start looking up the definitions of words before getting triggered by the smallest comments. Also, what I meant by "she doesn't have much to bring to the table anymore" is that her vocals are inconsistent. One day she will sound amazing, the next day I'm wondering what happened to her voice. That doesn't negate all of the positive contributions she's made in the past, but I'm talking about here and now. If your vocals are, I repeat, waning, adding a bad attitude as the cherry on top is not a smart move. Nowhere in my comment did I say that activism or rebellion is reserved for those people only. My point is that I don't think Mariah is willing to fully go down the road of "sticking it to the man" and while she may talk shit about different corporations from the comfort of her chaise lounge, I don't think she will ever give back her own Grammy's that she's received, protest or do anything significant besides sit and complain all the while still having the Grammy's that she talked trash about up for display in her house. I stand by my comment. (Monday 20 February 2017; 1:37)

The silence of the super-yass-queen lambs (72,905) (72,910) by Edward from USA Marissa, you were spot on. Remember when Mariah was rambling nonsense before she had the nervous breakdown? Yes, that time Cindi Burger had to take the microphone off her hand because she was going Looney Tunes on camera. Well, I think we're witnessing that same type of behavior once again. I'm pretty sure these "yass-queen, let them have it" super lambs wouldn't do what Cindi had the guts to do if they had the chance in a similar situation because whatever the queen does or say should be followed blindly. They would empowered Mariah to keep on bringing negativity her way. The delusion is so rampant that they actually think Mariah doesn't care about fame anymore. Well, evidence of the craziness that has been going on show a woman desperate for attention and relevancy. But oh well, those same lambs would also say that MW was a docu-series and that there should be a part 2. If being a fan means to do all that, I'd rather not be one. I'm glad MCA's messageboard is not run by one of these people, it would've disappeared three months after it was put online. Maybe they should come together and open Mariah Daily again, where everything used to be pink, with unicorns, rainbows and butterflies. (Monday 20 February 2017; 1:31)

Article: Sigala set to collaborate with Mariah Carey (72,909) by MIAM from USA I don't know who this guy is but he seems delusional. Why would he publicly say that people supposedly think the Jackson 5's ABC is not as good as his version? That's absurd. Second, he basically stole Mariah's music and he's gonna be rewarded for that? That is complete nonsense. Mariah would never do EDM anyway so I don't believe this to be true. There's no decent reason for any of this and he seems annoying to be quite honest. (Monday 20 February 2017; 0:41)

Re: The Grammys foiled me (72,869) (72,908) by MIAM from USA Adele's music isn't something special that people have chosen to gravitate to, she's literally making r&b/pop music which had been done a million times over. She's a white woman singing this and therefore she'll get much more attention than a Ledisi or Jill Scott for example (those women have much better voices too). It is the same case for Amy Winehouse, people treated her like she was Aretha; it is what happens when you're white in this industry. (Monday 20 February 2017; 0:28)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,902) (72,907) by MIAM from USA Mariah did not complain because she lost, she has lost plenty of awards over the years. It was about the fact that she had the biggest song and album of the year and she was completely snubbed. You cannot tell me Alanis had a more impactful song/album when we don't even remember it but we remember Daydream, we remember One Sweet Day. This is a common thing that is done to black artists; they achieve immense success but are frequently undercut by white artists. Do not chalk this up to "bratty behavior" when it is much greater than that, stop. (Monday 20 February 2017; 0:21)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,905) (72,906) by MIAM from USA You're actually making a lot of defamatory remarks here, I'm surprised you're claiming to be a lamb with that kind of rhetoric. I'm not even going to address the comments you made about her "waning" voice and that she does supposedly "doesn't bring much to the table anymore" because you and I both know that's insulting and disrespectful. What is more alarming is that you think she cannot be the type of artist to speak her mind and risk it all because of what she believes in. Those characteristics are not reserved for just Prince and Muhammad Ali, she can speak on it too. She's been in the business for nearly 30 years and we can count on our hands the amount of times she has been blunt, she's always bit her tongue. However, that does not mean she has to remain that way. She's not concerned with appeasing the masses anymore because they have continued to disparage and attack her anyway so why should she keep quiet when she's feeling a certain way? In fact, I think she's been exceptionally gracious given the amount of attacks she's been on the other end of lately. She never lashes out or argues, she literally made an honest remark and did so with a joke and a smile. If you can't handle that, then move along. (Monday 20 February 2017; 0:10)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,894) (72,905) by Marissa from USA Thank you. Believe me, despite how much Stella is gassing her up to be a rude a**hole, Mariah is not "bout that life". She is not some bold rebel ready to publicly smash her Grammy's and give up on being popular to take a stand. She's not Prince or Muhammad Ali who's willing to risk their whole careers to stand up to the powers that be. She's throwing a tantrum because she thinks it will get her cool points with certain vulgar and uncivilized members of her team. That's it and that's all. Looking at her behavior now, I really do believe that her being "eternally 12" is a lot more than just a joke, it's an accurate statement. I feel like I'm watching a middle schooler who's going through an identity crisis. If Mariah was retired I probably wouldn't care as much about her Grammy's comment because she truly wouldn't need anything from anyone at that point, but if she's still trying to get radio spins and chart-topping songs, it's not smart to diss such a major corporation. I'm not saying she needed to kiss their behinds but what happened to the gracious response of "no comment" or "I'd rather not speak on that for my own personal reasons"? That way you don't have to be fake but you don't have to be rude either. If I was a major music corporation I would not want to have Mariah associated with anything related to my brand. She and her childish team publicly play the blame game too much and she's not bringing much to the table anymore that's even worth the drama. Mariah may not need or want a Grammy anymore, but other music corporations are taking note of her behavior, and they aren't going to want anything to do with her if tantrums, vocals that may or may not show up and a psychotic manager are going to be a part of the deal. If this was 1994 with her crystal clear vocals then maybe more people would want to take a chance on her despite it all but when people are already over you due to inconsistent/waning vocals, you can't afford to be perceived as a b**** too. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 23:33)

Re: I Don't and the Grammy comment (72,890) (72,904) by Terna from Nigeria "Mariah is now very unlikely to add to her tally or even be nominated ever again." Something tells me she's fully aware of that and isn't bothered at all. Hence the remark. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 21:06)

Help needed re: Mariah covers album (72,903) by John from USA Someone posted a link to a guy singing acoustic versions of tracks from Mariah's Butterfly album, and had a free download link to it from his website. I lost all data from my old laptop and now am trying to get the songs back but sadly forgot what that artist's name was or the link to his website. Anybody remember this artist and have the download link to his Mariah cover album? Maybe the webmaster might know? Thanks in advance. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 20:46)

Re: Finally able to speak (72,887) (72,902) by Lila from United States Stella said that DCP offered to make a joint statement. She turned them down and was rude and disrespectful to the person, from the company, whom she was on the phone with. What did they think was going to happen with Stella doing that? It is not human nature to respond to hostility and disrespect with kindness and obedience. Stella basically told them f~ck you and they returned the sentiment. Even Steven. As for the Grammy's, yes it's disappointing to lose but Mariah can't say that she was foiled simply because she didn't win an award that was up for grabs by 4 other good artists, all nominated and voted for by a large group of members who could all have varying ideas of what makes this or that album or song deserving of the win. Especially not after still going on to submit another album for consideration. Whenever there's competition, you sign up for the possibility that you'll be the loser. Plus, who even knows how much she lost by, could've been less than 5 votes for all we know. No one has wronged Mariah, not in these situations anyway. All I see is Mariah being a brat because things didn't go her way and doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions or those of the incompetent people that she hired and keeps employed. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 19:38)

Honesty vs. politically correct (72,901) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Obviously do you guys think that Mariah actually cares about what others think about her comments nowadays on various topics? I highly doubt she does. Honestly speaking she been around almost three decades and has seen the change in politics in the entertainment industry. As I expressed before if she cannot garner respect in her prime I doubt she gives a damn about what her peers and different power players have to say about her in her anti years. Honestly I would rather her be honest about her feelings than give a made up politically correct answer to satisfy the masses that can give a damn about her. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 18:31)

Blind item (72,900) by RibbonB from USA This interesting blind item says the Lionel tour is doomed and Mimi is pissed with her team because every single leak about her is negative. Maybe she sees the mess, but is all in and doesn't know how to get out. I have wondered this whole era why the majority of stories about her make her look bad. It is unbelievable that she and Stellar could executive produce a reality show that makes her look worse than a Kardashian. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 18:06)

Mariah completely covered. (72,899) by Randy from USA That brown shirt pancho looking thing the paparazzi snapped her in had no cut outs for her breasts. Singing live and now this. Could she actually be turning a corner? (Sunday 19 February 2017; 18:06)

Standard (72,898) by Tameka walker from United states I was reading the interview that she gave and she is right on some stuff. It is like she has to make five million comebacks. People set the bar so high for her and when she doesn't live up to it, people try to tear her apart. I see many comments about the way she dresses. Look at other stars like Lady Gaga. What Gaga had on I didn't like it but that is her and I respect her as an artist. Same goes with Mariah, my favorite artist is Mariah and what she does is her business. I am here for the music (Sunday 19 February 2017; 17:47)

Re: I Don't goes for adds on rhythmic radio this week (72,895) (72,897) by Anonymous from I don't live in the US but will try and support. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 17:41)

Re: I Don't goes for adds on rhythmic radio this week (72,895) (72,896) by T from USA Request I Don't at radio like the old days. All the fans that want an album sooner than later better work hard to get I Don't played. If it takes off at radio then chances are a new album will follow. (Sunday 19 February 2017; 17:39)

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