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Re: MC copied Whitney and Aretha's runs (72,332) (72,359) by darrian liu from taiwan
Mariah's runs are definitely not copied from Whitney and Aretha. Mariah's runs are usually flowery, long and complex (not just in the melody, but her trademark transitions from chest to head, head to chest, chest to whistle, head to whistle). Her runs are also marked by its clarity and precision. Aretha's runs, while complex, tend to be less flowery and more soulful. Whitney's runs are usually shorter and less complex, although I believe she can do more complex runs. There's a reason Mariah is one of the few coloraturas in pop music. Aretha and Whitney aren't close to being coloratura. So while Mariah is inspired by Nippy and Aretha, she definitely doesn't copy their runs.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 8:41)
Thirsty (72,358) by Danny from Uk
Random fact - Mariah went back in time and wrote Thirsty for Stella and her frog spawn.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 8:01)
This era is "just for laughs" (72,357) by Geronimo from USA
I remember when Mariah used to sing "Lullaby of bird land". A couple of times she ended the song by saying "it's just for laughs". She put on a really old school cute face when she said it as if she wanted you to know that she wanted you to know she was laughing with both sincerity and irony. Now she's having fake relationships with billionaires, doing reality shows faux-cheating with a dancer young enough to be her son (I think) and releasing a song where she plays the victim while everyone watched her cheat on the scripted TV show. She has decided to entertain us and take all of our self righteous gasping and befuddled pearl clutching to the bank because she has always worked toward making a living as an entertainer and has been doing so brilliantly for 27 years. If she put out the greatest R&B record or the greatest pop record the world has ever seen tomorrow it wouldn't sell more than the worst album of this year put out by whoever the media gods have blessed this current moment. Somehow Mariah Carey has managed to amass an eight or nine digit fortune by entertaining people for the past 27 years. Despite some eyebrow raising and head scratching moments I would say she is doing just fine as long as she's laughing too.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 6:35)
Billboard article (72,356) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
In MC's new interview with Billboard, she said that she had originally hoped that MW would be more about the music than the narrative. So then why agree to the mess when you saw the end product? Also she said she's open to Season 2, because she's ready to go back on the road. Girl please no. She also said she didn't get to work with DJ Khaled and Travis Scott, which surprised me because didn't they basically spell it out that they collaborated? Anyways if it's not Khaled and Lionel then who could it be?
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 5:52)
Subway and a tuna sandwich? (72,355) by Nikki from usa
How out of touch is Showbiz411? 6 million views on Vevo puts Mariah's video in the 10G per month range. Spotify is free and she wouldn't make any money from those streams anyway, so I don't understand the point. It would help her on the charts, but that's about it. I Don't is a cute little ditty, but not much else. I wish MC would find her own creative muse and outlets instead of listening to Stella. Pay attention to your bank account Mariah.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 5:11)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey's bad weekend record sales (72,339) (72,354) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Stella thinks as long as something goes viral, it's great. Like that ass picture and how she made Anthony apologize for doubting Mishka. She doesn't care that the so called viral moment (it wasn't even viral) was because people were laughing at Mariah. Same with most of their actions. This wedding dress thing, why create a story that's not true? They didn't have to go out of their way to say it's the real wedding dress when it's not even true. Stella goes by the "all publicity is good publicity", not thinking about how it's going to damage Mariah's reputation in the long run. Like them blaming everyone else but Mariah for anything that goes wrong (the South American tour cancellation, the DCP situation where Stella was dancing around with her kid instead of fixing Mariah's mic), people will think twice before they hire Mariah.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 5:08)
Morgan (72,353) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
People wake up, this dude is bitter because his sister has made her dreams come true and she chooses not to fund his nonsense so all he does is sell stories to tabloids about his sister for his own personal gain. Talk about a lame excuse for a human being. Mariah is no saint but she has been there for both Morgan and Allison and they have both shown how ungrateful they are. So anything he has to say at this point is coming from an angry bitter place. He just be careful because his actions will only allow him not to prosper. Cues wish you well.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 4:24)
Re: Weird era (72,327) (72,352) by Marissa from USA
The weirdest moment for me is definitely Mariah having grown men around her children so fast (without discussing with the father of her children, Nick confirmed this), especially since every man she's ever introduced her kids too, she seems like she's just having some emotionally detached fling with. (Even though she was engaged to James that still seemed like a disingenuous stunt that her kids didn't need to be a part of. If she really loved him she wouldn't have been cheating with Tanaka with the quickness.) Kids don't need to be brought into any situation where there is not true, genuine, we-will-both-be-there-for-each-other-when-we're-old-and-wrinkled love. If you just want someone to sleep and hang out with and stroke your ego then that's your prerogative, but kids don't need to be exposed to petty flings and get attached to men who are gonna be here today and gone tomorrow. Even if you think Mariah and Tanaka are cute, you have to be out of your mind if you think he's gonna be around to change Mariah's bedpan and clean her dentures when she's old. This is a fling and nothing more and therefore should be none of these kids' business. It's bad parenting and I'm not going to let the fact that she's Mariah Carey stop me from saying it. God forbid this happens to her kids, but having men around kids who haven't had their intentions thoroughly vetted has led to many children being sexually abused. This is serious and don't let the fact that she's a celebrity fool you or normalize this. As someone who claims she has been robbed of her own innocence so early, I'm angry that she sees nothing wrong with this situation, especially having young, vulnerable kids. If this bothers anyone that I'm calling it out then please find a local rose-colored "safe space" to hide in.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 4:08)
Billboard update (72,351) by RibbonB from USA
Here Mariah talks writing "I Don't", working with IG, they share the same agent and will there be a season 2 of Mariah's world. She is still thinking about a season 2. She claims that if she can focus more on music vs. narrative. She said she had a lot of fun, blah, blah, blah. Interesting that she first heard the I Don't track in Capri way back in the summer, but claims she wrote it with Crystal, of TMB fame, later in the fall. She backed off of it being about James, sort of, playing like it's all very generic to any break up. It didn't sound like it applied to her anyway, lol she should have just done a cover of the whole old song which is more applicable to the narrative they put out on MW. She seems very ambivalent about putting out a new CD, claiming she needs to go away to a tropical location to write a cohesive record.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 3:28)
Facebook Q&A (72,350) by B from USA
Did Mariah really say that she's going to focus on releasing singles not albums. Roger for Showbiz 411 said one of the reasons I Don't wasn't doing well was because it's not attached to an album and the lack of a plan (promotional plan). In three days I Don't has almost as many views as YME has and it was released in 2014. Granted Mariah didn't promote MIAMTEC because of personal and professional issues (reasons).
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 3:26)
Re: I Don't video (72,257) (72,349) by B from USA
I think she looks stunning while lounging on the hood of the Rolls Royce in the white bodysuit with wet hair. She looks half her age. I purchased my copy of I Don't.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 3:20)
Re: Weird era (72,340) (72,348) by B from USA
I agree this era keeps getting weirder and weirder. If Mariah hopes to make another comeback she needs new collaborators (songwriters, producers, and directors) aew team (manager and publicist). She needs an A list stylist like Rachel Zoe. She should write with Ed Sheran, Bruno Mars and The Smeezingtons, Frank Ocean, and The Weekend. She needs to seamlessly update her signature sound. No more underwhelming and predictable Cox and Dupri collaborations.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 3:14)
Re: "I Don't" understand it (72,338) (72,347) by Licia from USA
I could see her and Future. I agree about Lil Wayne. I can't see or hear him on any Mariah track and I'm a fan of his. Drake would be good as well. I agree with Edward on her bringing in a rapper who very well known instead of people who she thinks she's helping. At this point it would be the other way around.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 3:03)
I Don't (sing anymore) (72,346) by CHAZ from USA
Though it's better than Crap-finity, it's still let down after let down after let down. Her insecurities are on full display. Take a break, Mariah, especially from your current team. It'll do you good. There's still hope for you. Love, a concerned Lamb.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 2:45)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey's bad weekend record sales (72,339) (72,345) by Edward from USA
Licia, "I Don't" is going to be her next #1. Be patient. The video is soon going to pick up in views, then radio is going to start playing it, and sales will skyrocket on iTunes. Once she releases "I Don't (Mishka-12 Alpha Mix)", things would get better.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 2:36)
Re: Weird era (72,340) (72,344) by Mara from United States
The weirdest thing for me has to be the sudden Packer relationship/photos and the yacht pictures and then the insertion of Stella and her daughter literally everywhere MC went. It all was just so bizarre to me. At that point, the reality docuseries and Tanaka didn't phase me.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 2:17)
Re: Weird era (72,340) (72,343) by Matty from Vancouver Canada
Sadly, I agree. I used to love being able to defend Mariah against pure capitalism and proudly say, what other global pop star do you know that writes, sings and producers their own music currently on the charts. That Art. Not to mention having so much involvement in their individual projects, down to every detail? I do love "I Don't", but there is a lot of elements of her current brand and imagry that are treading against my reason's for me identifying with this humble talented soul. (Side rant: I don't believe the dress she burred in the video was the 250K one that she possibility did purchase for the real wedding. What socially conscious person in 2017 would burn an artistic creation by Valentino worth 250K? First, he'll never dress you again. Second, I'd rather we got an auction scene, and the dress going for 500K if the case were she wanted to emotionally rid herself of it.) I think it was believed to be a good PR move by the team to perpetuate the diva imagine, but not thought all the way through. It's not a happy time for many people on our planet and it's borderline disrespectful of the struggles many people face to burn that kind of cash and artistry. I can see how that would be hard to watch for those that turn to Mariah and songs like "There's Got To Be A Way" or "Outside" for comfort.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 2:02)
Re: MC copied Whitney and Aretha's runs (72,332) (72,342) by THE TRUTH from USA
When you don't understand context you really shouldn't comment on things and relationships about which you know nothing. In fact anybody with an ear can hear especially if they listen to early MC that she was in fact very influenced by Aretha and Whitney. There's nothing wrong with that. Would you have preferred she copied Debbie Gibson or Tiffany because those were her peers on Long Island at the time. Musicians have to emulate somebody and you model the best. Christina openly admitted emulating Mariah, has always been nothing but complimentary to her. In fact when she first came out I was at a party in Hollywood where she was fawning all over Mariah and Mariah was very rude to her in fact her pet name for Christina has always been White Rat for who knows what reason. It's a shame that Mariah lacks the grace to acknowledge and show kindness to someone who openly refers to her as an idol. Talent is no excuse for cruelty or pettiness. As for Morgan, lots of people here act as if he doesn't have the right to honestly express his opinions if they aren't the same as there's. News flash this is America, regardless of Mariah's revisionist history which some lambs are finally recognizing, Morgan paid Mariah's first demos, put her with Gavin Christopher, introduced and paid for her to work with Ben Marguilies, and was by her side day and night during her first two breakdowns.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 1:49)
Article: Mariah Carey's bad weekend record sales (72,341) by Mister Lux from USA
There was nothing untrue about anything he said. Love Mariah, but lately her game is weak. She needs to get her head in the game. Lady Gaga may not have hit every note perfectly during the Super Bowl, but she put her soul into it and it was obvious. Mariah hasn't put her soul into anything for quite some time and it's overwhelmingly evident. I think Mariah has more than just an image problem at this point. She comes across as having an attitude and being completely unrelatable; beyond the "diva" caricature she's created. Couple that with uninspiring, petty songs and lip syncing during performances - for God's sake she doesn't even have to dance. Is it really a surprise her "I don't" didn't do well? I want to keep cheering Mariah on, but she's getting tiresome and boring. What happened to your fire Mariah?
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 1:47)
Re: Weird era (72,327) (72,340) by Jono from USA
The weirdest moment for me just has to be the superficial image that she's giving. Mariah has always been an artist first and foremost, her work speaks for herself. Now she has all these other things going around her. Not to say she can't venture out and pursue different projects. There's just a lot of silly tabloid fodder out there, some of them orchestrated by her own team, which just makes things look rather cheap.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 1:10)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey's bad weekend record sales (72,322) (72,339) by Licia from USA
To do all this manufacturing and it not really do anything to help put her back on top is what disgusts me. Yeah you're always in a headline and you have more messy followers, but that's not propelling you any further upwards. Your stock is going way down. It's making you look even more bad than you already looked in the general public's eyes. All these interviews and articles talking about the burning of that stupid dress and where is I Don't sitting at on the charts?
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 0:36)
Re: "I Don't" understand it (72,324) (72,338) by Special K from USA
I don't know about Lil Wayne but Future would have been a great choice.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 0:26)
The most beautiful era (at least to me) (72,337) by Dennis from Miami, FL
I've been watching and listening the Charmbracelet tour the whole day. She looked so beautiful, shiny, relaxed and happy during 2003-2004. Dresses were so classy. Her body was in shape. For me, she sounded better than Rainbow, Daydream or Butterfly eras. Charmbracelet songs sounded so much better life. She sang them in full voice. It was very contrasting to the Glitter era. She looked so jaded and disturbed, and sounded worse. I wish that she could recover the same way as she did in 2003.
(Wednesday 8 February 2017; 0:24)
Re: Weird era (72,327) (72,336) by Gigi from USA
Definitely Mishka for me. At first, I thought it was a cute aunt/niece type of relationship. I know a lot of lambs were tired of seeing Mishka in every picture with MC, but it honestly didn't bother me. It only started bothering me when Mariah's Instagram started going downhill with all of the risque pictures being posted and it was revealed that then 12-year-old Mishka was the one taking them. As a mother, the thought of a child taking racy photos of an adult makes me cringe (especially the nude tub picture). Not even counting the endless times I've seen pictures of Mishka at bars, nightclubs, etc with Mariah hanging out like she's one of her adult best friends. After I saw the MW clip of Mariah saying she wanted to continue working with a 12-year-old on a professional level - I have to admit that my level of respect for Mariah plummeted.
(Tuesday 7 February 2017; 22:28)
Charmbracelet tour vocals (72,335) by Billy from Greece
Wow, just wow.
(Tuesday 7 February 2017; 21:58)

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