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Re: Tommy Mottola (71,815) (71,825) by May from Denmark Sometimes I wondered in which way he was controlling. I recall someone said once that Mariah got upset at Tommy and what she did was to go to a room, slam the door and put some rap music very loud. That sounded like a teen having a tantrum. So was he controlling like a strict father? Something like "no Mariah, you can't go to that party and you most definitely can't go dressed up like that"? It always made me think their relationship was weird, Mottola being more like an authoritarian figure and her having some daddy issues. I feel that Mariah is drawn to young guys because she might want to get back that youth that slipped away. It's like Packer used her at times but other moments seemed he wanted a grown up relationship but she is still stuck in the "party girl mode" with friends hanging around laughing their drunk butts off and Tanaka fits perfectly her current attitude, he is somewhat thirsty, riding the Mariah wave and he might probably be making her feel young. Mariah seems to be approaching a middle age crisis. I want to believe that it wasn't truly all yachtes and diamonds but seeing Mariah flirting on the plane with Bananaka, fixing his hair, sitting on him, all the while prepping a wedding, I can't take seriously when she says Packer wasn't good to her. Perhaps she didn't put much effort in a serious relationship neither, the cake moment in Italy said everything. (Tuesday 31 January 2017; 0:03)

Re: Mariah and Nick are beautiful (71,822) (71,824) by May from Denmark I actually felt that Nick pretty much moved on. They looked like friends going for a burger, I thought it is a good thing they have a friendly relationship considering they have kids, some people can be so toxic to each other after a divorce. Now the awkwardness was Bananaka's mom meeting Mariah and this last one admitting being nervous. She does seem to be very much aware of the cams at all times. Nick looked more natural. (Monday 30 January 2017; 23:42)

Joke (71,823) by Sasha from Nomansland So she re-wrote the past because it didn't suit her. Does she realise that life is not a video game? It's ridiculous because everybody knows James dumped her first. This all situation is too pathetic, how is it even possible to take anything she' s doing seriously? Everything she does is a continous joke. (Monday 30 January 2017; 22:36)

Mariah and Nick are beautiful (71,822) by Sheila from United States Was I the only one who saw the "magic" between them? It was clarity for me and the only time I saw her as "authentic" on the entire series. (Monday 30 January 2017; 22:18)

MW (71,821) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Honestly this was a chopped up mess because everything was all over the place. You can tell a lot of scenes were reshot and mixed in with certain parts to create a storyline. The best moments were the family moments between MC, Roc, and Roe. Also the moment with Nick, his mother Ms. Beth, Roc, Roe, and MC. You can tell those scenes were genuine and that is the real MC. This other person is persona that was created as with most entertainers there is the public and private persona. But MC's public persona is doing her more harm than good. (Monday 30 January 2017; 22:03)

Re: MW episode 8 : Mimi L review (71,817) (71,820) by Edward from USA Don't be a hater. If a man, who is skin and bones, breaks his leg in six places trying to lift the woman he loves, he truly deserves her. I don't know why you guys put too much emphasis on money when it comes to true cougar love. Is Tanaka a boy-toy for Mariah? Obviously he is, but that doesn't make him a bad person. You'll see that when Mariah dumps Tanaka we'll get great songs from the experience. As my dear Edoard from France would say: Mariah sacrifices herself just to have situations to write from. When she broke up with Nick, we got "Cry" and "Camouflage". When she broke up with Packer, she got "I Don't", and when she breaks up with Tanaka, she'll be working on a Japanese song she started writing in the late 90's but never finished. (Monday 30 January 2017; 21:48)

Natural progression (71,819) by Nikki from usa I think Mariah's very honest about how she's feeling at any given time. But, I don't think people pay attention. Mariah likes to call the shots in certain things, but not everything. From watching her have JD pick out her first singles and unable to make a decision on her own to the fact that Nick had say in money making decisions when it was only her money while they were together and tried to continue to do so after they split to asking Nick's and Prince's opinion before joining American Idol after making it clear she really didn't want to do it, I don't think Mariah's ever been fully committed to the drivers seat. MC repeatedly said Nick was never home and how lonely she felt. Nick kept saying the reason why was because he needed to "be a man" and "make his own money". So, it makes sense for her to be with Packer. He has his own money and career. He should have time to be a family and a steady patriarchal figure like Mariah never consistently had. Except, Packer never made his wealth. He inherited it and spends all of his time trying to keep it. He encourages Mariah to do impromptu concerts and tries to use tickets to sway political figures. He drags her along to business meetings and uses her star power to help close huge deals. Mariah finds herself only spending vacation time with him before he proposes and tries to rush her to the alter. It also appears he dumped the wedding planning on Mariah much of the same way Mottola did. That deja vu must've been eye opening. Packer's divorce still isn't finalized yet, he dated a women for less than a year before proposing, and tried to rush her to the alter even though it wouldn't be legal. That's not normal. Mariah has a habit of marrying men who take advantage of her. Maybe it's easier for her to live in a fantasy than face the reality. (Monday 30 January 2017; 21:45)

Re: Tommy Mottola (71,798) (71,818) by Andrew from UK Ha, gee, ya think? Now, I'm sure someone's being saying that for a while and being lambasted. Who could it be? I'm sure he's pretty much right all the time whoever he is. So seriously, what an absolutely awful human being to make that song and video and reality show. How cheap and nasty she has become or revealed herself to be. I'd like someone to challenge her to a sing off to show her some humility. "[censored] nobody"? "[censored] everybody." (Monday 30 January 2017; 21:28)

Re: MW episode 8 : Mimi L review (71,803) (71,817) by RibbonB from USA You meant "she ain't messing with no broke, broke leg ninja?" (Monday 30 January 2017; 20:35)

They belong together (71,816) by Marissa from USA I want Mariah and Nick to get back together. There, I said it. Yes, I have ragged on him in the past, but overall they seemed so in love when they were with each other and the fact that they are apart and lost in the world is sad to me. To me, the only cause of Mariah and Nick's divorce were clashing egos. Nick didn't want to stop working so hard because he was hustling to look like he was worthy of Mariah's love and Mariah didn't want anyone to have an opinion that didn't echo hers. From the outside looking in, despite what they said, they didn't do everything to make their marriage work. They were each locking onto a set of secret values (Mariah's was "I love you unless you actually want to be an equal in this relationship" and Nick's was "I love you but I'm not going to look like a jobless punk leeching off of his wife, even if it makes you miserable that I'm working too hard") that got in the way of unconditional love. Ultimately, they both latched onto shit that didn't matter in the grand scheme of things, now they're both alone and lonely. To me, the fact that they broke up over childish, egotistical reasons is a demonic force. Even Nick said it himself. They shouldn't have given the petty values that they were secretly holding onto the power to break their marriage up, yet they did. My question is looking at both of their lives now, was it worth it? If they put all of the Hollywood bullshit aside then they could have still been together. I still have hope that if they ever truly wanted to, they could make it work because the reason they broke up was actually preventable had they not had valued such petty things above their marriage. This isn't coming from a place of trying to rag on them, but from a sadness to see a marriage fail when there was/is still potential for it to work, especially when there are kids involved. Again, this is my theory. I can't say for sure that these are facts, but from the information that they've both given about the failure of their marriage, this is what I've pieced together. (Monday 30 January 2017; 20:29)

Re: Tommy Mottola (71,801) (71,815) by MusicfanJ from Germany I don't know what really happened between them, but Mariah was certainly not happy with Tommy around 95. That Tommy kept it private and never said a bad word to the press is very clever. I do wonder what's going on with Mariah and her latest relationships. That the marriage with Nick didn't work out must have caused her lot of problems. For me she's not the same since the divorce. Emotionally she's not acting like the grown-up woman she used to be. And I can't believe to say that but I feel sorry for James Packer. As so many on this board said, it always looked like she was not in love with him. But who knows? Mariah always wanted to feel stable and save, but with her entourage and Mr. Tanaka I fear she's far away from it. She deserves a happy private life like everybody. (Monday 30 January 2017; 20:24)

Re: MW finale plot twist? (71,800) (71,814) by Lila from United States Either man, either way, hearing the lyrics so far, I can't take them seriously in regards to either. We've too many examples of Mariah, in both relationships admitting to or exemplifying poor behavior or thinking. I'm not saying that the men are perfect at all either but it just seems Mariah's actions are more wearing. I, too, remember Mariah saying on The View that she didn't like Nick disagreeing with her and that 20/20 trust answer, I still get second hand slap in the face from. The latter, if ever there was a time to lie that was it. Then all this ish with Tonka Toy while supposedly being with Packer. Listening to the lyrics we've gotten so far, I think it's more likely that no one "played with her mind" or "lied to her" but rather Mariah just played herself thinking that she could do whatever and have her circus around 24/7, inserting themselves where they don't belong, and the man was just going to continually turn a blind eye or do a one-sided compromise forever. Then, when that doesn't happen, she feels let down and/or lied to. (Monday 30 January 2017; 19:48)

Re: Tommy Mottola (71,801) (71,813) by Edouard from France Are you for real? Seriously? (Monday 30 January 2017; 19:21)

Re: MW finale plot twist? (71,794) (71,812) by Mara from United States Ribbon my friend you are really on a roll today. I agree with all of what you are saying. That's why I love my daily check ins at MCA. I also think the lyrics I heard so far fit her and Nick a heck of a lot more than Packer. Who does she think she is fooling with how she loved him and how bad he treated her when she was seen totally up on he dancer all hours of the night and videos were posted on snap chat and what not. Also the fact that they were never alone, even down to the point of having "his and hers yachts". These lyrics are really nonbelieveable unless she went ala Butterfly on us with her Mottola situation. They really work much better for her and Nick though. The other thing since they played up this twist and wait and see with final episode, the thought of her spending time alone maybe contemplating going back with Nick crossed my mind and who knows if it was attempted, it may have but I also agree I don't think Nick wants to go back there. I noticed just by the clips last night and they were indeed sparse but he is there for the kids and that is it. I could see Mariah genuinely happy and herself in those scenes and he always makes her laugh even when she spoke about him on her most recent Today Show interview with Kathy Lee. She does look genuine when she talks about him, I did not get any sense of that from Nick. Then when I saw all the beach video being leaked I started thinking... no... it's the Tanaka thing. It was nice seeing Big Jim there in the final show group pic though. He tweeted last night it was a nice surprise seeing MC at the piano last night. (Monday 30 January 2017; 19:12)

Article: Mariah Carey calls James Packer split a "weight" lifted (71,811) by Ignacio Pineda from United States I really didn't like Tanaka's "promotion". I do love her new song though. (Monday 30 January 2017; 18:40)

RibbonB (71,810) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Did you notice how M was wearing the same dress in Hawaii that she was also supposedly wearing when at the beginning of the season Bryan came to her room, the whole secret handshake scene? And even back then we knew this was definitely shot in Hawaii and edited to make it look like it happen during the SSFT. Not only was she wearing the same dress (which can be a coincidence since she does repeat clothes) but her hair, makeup, shoes, everything was exactly the same, no change at all, so now it's confirmed (even though there was no doubt to begin with) that this scene was added in later to promote the "Manaka" story line. I don't have the patience or willingness to go back and watch the previous episodes to see what other blatantly obvious re-shoots were included (there were many though, in fact I feel like about half the scenes were re-shoots). This just is annoying because this is supposed to be a "documentary of the tour" yet it's full of staged moments and yet Mariah basically rolls her eyes and get angry when people say it's a reality show. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:56)

Re: MW episode 8 : Mimi L review (71,803) (71,809) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Oh my goodness, haha I am literally on the floor laughing, Eric ban this crazy one right now. Kidding kidding, we love Edward, he's the best. Edward I can't with your crazy story lines. Don't give ideas to Stella, I swear I'll hunt you down if you speak this into existence. Is it bad that I kinda would actually love to see this play out haha, this sounds more interesting and well thought out and consistent than Season 1, which was an edit room mess with all the random montages and disregard for timeline or truth. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:50)

Some of the annoying "dance scenes" (71,808) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Licia, I dug these up especially for you haha, this is part 1 of the beach scene, you can see them doing the awkward dance. This is the kissing moment (which was repeated 3 times.). This is them dancing at the gazebo. Ok so this scene here is a scene from the previous episode, where M keeps throwing herself at Tanaka on the bus, this is the continuation. Finally we have the M fixing Tanaka's hair moment. Ok so I was looking for the scenes of Nick and the kids to post, but I couldn't find them, if I do, I'll definitely get them for those who want to see those without having to watch the whole episodes. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:43)

Sampling RnB (71,807) by Edouard from France I believe it's a great idea to sample rnb songs. "Where I wanna be" is such a gem for rnb music lovers and from what I've heard she cleverly re-used it (as always). Can't wait to hear the full song. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:39)

Re: MW episode 8 : Mimi L review (71,796) (71,806) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter While that is true, it was pretty much confirmed that whatever happened was between James and M's employee, not Mariah herself. It's confirmed because it was sent to TMZ and TMZ gets "leaks" directly from Stella. Setting that aside, this isn't the only questionable thing though. They changed a lot of things, which they themselves have confirmed (some even on the show) before. For example in the beginning of the show it's shown that Stella asks Mariah to postpone the wedding and Mariah agrees, James was upset about that but he tells M to figure it out and agrees to wait. But this episode Stella says that James pushed back the first wedding date. Then it was pretty much confirmed that James left Mariah (various reasons came up, none of which were confirmed) but in the show, by the end, they show that Mariah has a change of heart and decides she can't be with James because he's not a good guy, so she called off the wedding. The song that she's promoting by saying it's about her break up from James, doesn't even sound like it's about James. Yet they are pushing it as a stunt. So there is a lot of shady business going on. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:06)

PitypParty (71,805) by Butterfly from She can play victim and shift blame all she wants, but she's the problem. She wants to be worshiped 24/7 and be all loony tune but when shit hits the fan Mariah acts all innocent, sad and mopey and goes on a full attack. No independent person can tolerate all that craziness on a daily basis. (Monday 30 January 2017; 17:01)

Re: MW finale plot twist? (71,800) (71,804) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It gets really hard to defend Mariah when she herself is sabotaging her image and career. Around the end of the show I think she says something about she hopes people will understand why she did what she had to do or that people won't understand. But then how can you expect people to understand when you, yourself, have been showing people how you have been in flirting and semi cheating on your fiance all throughout the show and partying with her crew but whenever James comes, she's suddenly too busy to give him any time. Even if we ignore whatever was shown on MW, let's just take into account all the snap chat videos we saw of Bryan and Tanaka getting cozy and him wearing her robe and all that crap, had the table been turned, how would she react to see James grabbing and groping at his female employees and making them sit on his lap and then putting up pictures of said female employee in his night robes? Even until the last part, in the gazebo when M and Tanaka were talking and she said she's upset but she thinks he has his "own set of issues" with her, I thought, maybe finally she'll turn it around and say that "look I know you probably like me in a way, but sorry, I don't like you like that, I like you as my friend". I was really hoping for that but then she goes and does those fake kissing scenes, which we now know was shot over a two day period, day 1 was the sunset scenes, where she has her hair and makeup done and those close up were shot and day 2 is when they took long distance photos and her makeup wasn't done and those pictures got leaked. Both of them were wearing the same outfit to make it look like it was the same day and yet we are supposed to believe this staged 2 day event is reality. (Monday 30 January 2017; 16:56)

Re: MW episode 8 : Mimi L review (71,783) (71,803) by Edward from USA In the next season of Mariah's World: Tanaka has another accident but his other leg is affected. Mariah realizes she ain't dating no limping man. Tanaka gets mad and reveals that Mariah only has two pieces of hair left on her head. Stella shows her Alpha power by slapping Takana for messing with her secret love. Mariah brings the rest of her body out of the closet (legs and arms). Stella and Mariah get married. Season 3, Stella and Mariah get pregnant in vitro and both end up with triplets. Since Mariah can't drink during this time, her voice improves and we get a new album called "She got me feeling emotions". Show gets cancelled when E. can't provide an independent camera for each of the six new babies. (Monday 30 January 2017; 16:48)

Re: Tommy Mottola (71,798) (71,802) by RibbonB from USA Well lot's of others have said he was obsessed and possessive of her, which might have stifled a young vibrant, talented singer in her prime. She definitely wasn't happy after sacrificing her youth and getting snubbed at the Grammy's. Mariah likes power, influence or seems to settle for a yes person who will fawn all over her until she or they gets bored. Marriage and divorce is a two ways street. This past year was a long script, a reenactment of edited moments IMO. Mishka got launched , MC and hired hand became "dumb ass" and "best dumb ass ever", their words and sealed it with a kiss and a lap dance and a hope to share more of their "journey" in a season two. (Monday 30 January 2017; 16:37)

Re: Tommy Mottola (71,798) (71,801) by Candy from Hong kong I've been believing this for about 10 years. I like Tommy Mottola actually, how he styled Mariah and kept what happened with Mariah during their relationship/divorce more private. Mariah been writing songs and singing about the "abuse" for many years in different albums, bad-mouthing Mottola. When I saw the Barbara Walters interview when dembabies were 6 months old, how she said she trust Nick "sometimes", she basically has no respect for her husbands. Not on TV neither in real life. MW confirms that she also has no respect for her fiancé. I hate those songs/interviews which she about the Mottola abuse very much. He helped her a lot with her career. Same as Packer, he gave her a 10 million dollar ring, and the way she took it off in the video is disgusting. He respected her enough to design and presented her the ring, she was emotionally cheating on him on TV for the whole world to watch. (Monday 30 January 2017; 16:36)

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