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Ellen appearance (68,635) by IfWeeeeee from Over There For a wealthy person, she sure loves look like a cheap hooker. Also, she thinks her ramblings are cute - they're not, Mariah, they are not. Moreover, her face looks bloated again. She's gotten gross - not because she's put on weight, but her antics are. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 9:14)

Re: Who is afraid of Virginia Wolfe? (68,541) (68,634) by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA I was going to tell the story of my trip to Vegas to see Mariah for her 8/28 show, but I didn't have time. The show was not great, even thought I got to touch her. What really pissed me off was when Mario Lopez, who came in late and sat across the aisle from me and stayed in his phone the whole time and didn't sing along to anything, starting getting so much attention. I could smell his cologne from across this ailse, but must admit he is handsome. Anywho, while Mariah was singing "Heartbeatker" (I think), her dancers were scouting the crowd for the person to bring up for "Touch My Body". I just knew they were going for Mario. At this point, some people from the stage walk up to Mario to talk to him about how it will al go down. It looked like he was just there for that moment (he interviewed her a few days later). Some man walks up to talk to him (the man who produces he show?) and so does Stella. She came in late around "Love Takes Time" and was rather dramatic, looking around and walking in slow motion like she was filming an intro for the real housewives of Atlanta. I think her daughter and friends were sitting on the same row as Mario - I'm not sure. Anyway, she comes over to Mario and they talk. I yell out, "Why are y'all pulling up a celeb on stage instead of the real fans who support her? That's some bullsh*t." Other fans look at me in shock (one girl sincerely asked if I was ok). The man looked at me; I think Stella did too. I yelled out again, "Keep it cute, Stella because the lambs already don't see it for you and my dollars pay for everything in here." I was salty af and rolled my eyes all of "Touch My Body" until the end. I wanted to hear the live belts at the end. So... yea. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 8:35)

Re: Mariah's popularity will never recover (68,609) (68,633) by Marissa from USA To us as fans of course she's been a legend from practically the first album, but to society at large no one is going to consider a 31 year old (2001 was the year they "counted her out" and characterized her as a has been) a legend. Beyonce has been in the business for 18 years and there are still plenty of lambs that would never fix their mouths to call her a legend because they still see her as so young, so I'm not going to give a double standard. Being relatively young and legendary is something a lot of people will not even entertain regardless of how many Billboard stats and album sales someone has, which is why to this day people are quicker to paint MC as a has-been than a legend. So yes, I stand by the fact that the general public (not the lambs) did not view her as a legend until after TEOM or they wouldn't have dragged her like she was totally irrelevant the minute she slipped up with the Glitter era. People who are seen as legends are given the benefit of the doubt when their sales inevitably start waning. Instead, she was treated like she had accomplished nothing in the industry all because she achieved a "mere" 2.5 million in sales for Glitter rather than her usual 10+ million. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 7:28)

Access Hollywood (68,632) by Lila from United States I did like the Access Hollywood interview. Mariah was calm and not as defensive. She was straightforward and didn't ramble. I don't know why she couldn't do that on Ellen. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 3:30)

Re: Ellen interview (68,620) (68,631) by Lila from United States What Mimi L. said lol. I'll add, though, that the multiple emojis on the second bathtub pic gives Mishka away. She does the same on her personal IG. She and the mother are into overly hash tagging and emoji-ing pictures but Mischka isn't as bad as Stella and she's been toning it down but if you go back through the pics on M's IG, you can see evidence of it. Kristofer hardly uses emojis and when he does, it's usually one. This circus is a mess. Mariah girl you are not twelve. This girl cannot be your best friend. Let it go. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 3:26)

Helping Haiti charity cd (68,629) by Licia from USA I was playing the music trivia game song pop and a song on the best of Mariah playlist came up that I had no idea she remade for charity. Apparently she sang Everybody Hurts (I forget the original artist). Am I the only person who didn't know this existed? Even though this came out in 2012 [2010] I'm uber excited to try and find the full song so I can hear her take on it. 1. I love this song. 2. Right about now I'll take anything that I've never heard by her because I'm desperate for new music. I just looked up the song. She didn't sing the song by herself, but she sounded great on the small part she had. Let me continue with my no new Mariah music drought. Lol. Anyway all of the artists involved sounded great. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 3:07)

Re: Will Mariah's popularity recover or are Lambs just old? (68,613) (68,628) by Ty from USA Sheila the Mariah I've met over the years and this train wreck of drama I'm seeing since she married nick are two different worlds. And I think the lambs are overly mean on this board. Just f'd up. Nothing she could do can please them. Takes 30 seconds to read comments and it blows. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 2:35)

Re: Ellen interview (68,624) (68,627) by RibbonB from USA Now she is throwing Packer shade in interviews. Lol when the E person said that fans were wondering if he will still be on the reality show, M. replied, "Oh he has fans?" Messy. The lady then said, well they were tweeting about it and M. replies "Oh I didn't know that." (Thursday 24 November 2016; 1:19)

Re: Ellen interview (68,624) (68,626) by RibbonB from USA Ok thanks, I didn't watch it yet. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 1:15)

Re: Ellen interview (68,620) (68,624) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah said the person who took the picture is "related to her manager". She said she won't mention the name. If it was anyone else like Stella herself or Liana, she would have mentioned their name or designation. However since Mishka is a 13 year old. Mariah probably had the sense to not mention that she had a 13 year old in the bathroom. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 1:10)

Re: Ellen interview (68,619) (68,623) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Lol Ellen was having none of that unnecessary Aspen hot tub story. She just went ahead and closed the segment. As it should be, I don't get why Mariah always has to ramble on about unrelated stuff. Ellen just asked for a picture, just say yes and move along. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 1:08)

MC on Ellen (68,621) by Mirage_Nunez from America I enjoyed her on Ellen. Even though I do wish she would show less clevage, she look refreshed, healthy, (dare I say) happy, more upbeat and in a better place. I think she handled everything well. I love that she uses humor and charm to avoid tough personal questions. That's actually a nicer (less awkward) way of handling it when you think about it, instead of giving a stone cold answer. Ellen briefly mentioned Mariah's World, but I wish she would've focused more on the upcoming Christmas special and mentioned the makeup line. Bringing up the bathtub pics was kinda unnecessary/old news and could've been left out. Anyway I'm glad she's unbothered by all the negativity that surrounds her name these days. That's the best way to be. Taking on the stress of the world will kill you. Sometimes you just have to pray and keep moving. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 0:38)

Re: Ellen interview (68,617) (68,620) by RibbonB from USA Well have we actually confirmed that the girl takes all these photos of Mariah? When Mariah and Nick took those nude pregnant pictures, Krisopher Buckle the make up dude took the pics. It is possible that he is taking a lot of the pics from this era too. But point still stands and is valid that she does not need to be buddies with a teenager. (Thursday 24 November 2016; 0:18)

Ellen interview (68,619) by Lila from United States This is basically a running commentary. I'm writing as I watch. Put your titties away. Why wouldn't you assume there is a time difference between countries? I like that Ellen is asking good questions. Just give a straightforward I can't answer that right now as I don't know and keep the decorations compliment to yourself. Just play the game M. No one's asking you to actually kiss them. She is so frustrating sometimes. No Ellen. We're trying to get her away from the bodysuits. Didn't need the Aspen comment. This interview overall was pointless. We learned nothing about Mariah's World or any of her other endeavors. Which reminds me, I was just thinking earlier this morning, when I saw the preview of the Access Hollywood interview on IG, that there's probably no point in watching the full interview as the preview more than likely sums up the entire interview lol. We just never get much, if anything, out of these interviews. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 22:47)

Re: Ellen interview (68,605) (68,618) by Bill from the UK Who takes a bath in a body suit, full make up, and diamonds? Don't make out like it was a randomly captured off guard festive moment when it was as staged as any Broadway musical. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 22:29)

Re: Ellen interview (68,616) (68,617) by Lila from United States Yup. I'm talking about the bubble bath ones. I sincerely hope that there are no more moments like that to speak of, on or off social media, though. Like Mimi L., I also don't believe that there was any body suit to speak of, on Mariah's body, so regardless of the bubbles, Mariah was nude, in a bathtub, with a child taking pictures of her. That's off. I think I've also stated before that I find it off that this child is constantly hanging out with this group of grown adults. Nothing good comes of children who grow up too fast. Nothing good comes of situations where you put yourself in a position to be vulnerable like letting children hang out with you in adult situations and take pics of you in the nude. I've seen the normalization too and it pisses me off. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 22:28)

Re: Ellen interview (68,615) (68,616) by RibbonB from USA Wait, what pics? I hope you just mean those bubble bath pics from a few months ago. But yeah M. is making so many missteps with this family its rather sad and many want to normalize it. There is so much room for disaster. I wish M. and her kids the best though. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 21:46)

Re: Ellen interview (68,605) (68,615) by Lila from United States I saw the video clip too and I just can't with her. Just say you were being stupid instead of lying. Also, this Mishka girl needs to go. It still blows my mind that she's supposedly friends with a little girl. A child is taking nude pics of her. Wow. Here I thought we had all learned from Michael Jackson that there is no such thing as grown adults being friends with children. Silly me. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 21:21)

Mariah and "Kuschelrock" (68,614) by MusicfanJ from Germany On a German TV-special Mariah is on the countdown for 30 years of Kuschelrock (a famous compilation with romantic songs). Again they said how Mariah dominated the 90ies with her voice and only Whitney came close to her. So true and I'm still in love with "When you believe". Perfect soundtrack song. The music of the 90ies especially the ballads were amazing. Sorry I have a "retro-phase" at the moment. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 20:52)

Re: Will Mariah's popularity recover or are Lambs just old? (68,604) (68,613) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Don't bother. If they think going down the Kardashian route is best for Mariah, let them live in that bubble. But to later complain that Mariah doesn't get the respect she deserves as an artist is not going to work anymore. If they want Mariah to go down the Kardashian publicity stunt mode, they should accept that Mariah will be treated the way the Kardashians are. Also I'd like to know in what sense Mariah's instagram is "popping". Clearly I've been looking at some other profile then you because all I see are low quality, blurry messy and sometimes soft porn posts. At least take from the Kardashians here and make better posts. Lastly I really find it interesting how some people indirectly try to defend Stella and Mishka here more than Mariah herself. Stella, Mishka, Liana, are you guys lurking the board darlings? (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 20:47)

Mariah and Jazz (68,612) by MusicfanJ from Germany I know we had a similar topic but I listened to Melody Gardot and thought Mariah should really make a pure jazz-album one day. Her MC2 has great jazz-influenced songs. It's although the royal-class of music and Mariah definitely has the ability to put her mark on it. Nothing against pop and rnb but jazz is another league. I'm pretty sure the youngsters won't buy, but the "old ones" would love and buy it. One last thing Gregory Porter and Mariah in duet, I keep dreaming. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 20:08)

Re: Will Mariah's popularity recover or are Lambs just old? (68,600) (68,611) by MusicfanJ from Germany Completley agree Licia. Only a non-talented person should take this way to get attention or whatever. I'm fine if we never get another top-ten hit. By the way Instagram is so overrated. A superstar/musician should please the fans and show the talent to others. Followers mean nothing. There are some great artists who sell music very well and aren't on Facebook and Co. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 19:49)

Put the negativity in context (68,610) by Marissa from USA This has been on my mind for a while. Every few weeks you have a few lambs that come here to chastise us about our behavior on this board. To them I would say: Consider the context. Don't make it seem like Mariah just won a Grammy last night, has an album in the top 10 on the charts and just won a Nobel prize last week and we're all sitting here complaining. I'm tired of people taking lambs' attitudes out of context as if we were just born mad instead of seeing the negative attitudes as a reflection of what's going on in MC's career. Do you all remember these levels of complaints 10 years ago? Of course not, because her career, effort, attitude, and integrity were on point then. People weren't complaining because there was nothing to complain about. Was there just a random influx of negative lambs or has MC's career and attitude changed drastically over the years? Let's be real here. Also, some lambs should stop acting like longsuffering is a common skill. It isn't. If you're a person who can deal with disappointment for years and never lose heart even slightly or complain, congratulations, but don't make it seem like that's the norm. Complaining may be unpleasant for some to listen to but it's still the most normal response to dissatisfaction. If you have the discipline to be unhappy and never utter a word about it, great, but please have some empathy and realize that "not everybody has that" instead of trying to make people feel bad for having human responses. I can count on less than one hand how many people truly come on here with 100% baseless complaints anyway. So ultimately, instead of getting caught up in the feeling of "how dare these peasants ever complain about Mariah", look at whether what people want is actually legitimate. Is it really immoral to want her to have a successful album again? Do we deserve a spot in hell for wanting her to have a manager who's more lowkey? Don't get caught up in trigger words or phrases and end up losing sight of what people are actually want for her, which is usually pretty innocent and good. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 19:44)

Re: Mariah's popularity will never recover (68,582) (68,609) by Lee from UK Marissa, with the greatest respect, are you completely mad? Are you actually saying that before TEOM, Mariah "hadn't truly solidified herself as a legend yet"? I hope this is a joke. I think I actually spat out some tea as I was reading this. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 19:22)

Stills from Ellen appearance (68,608) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Robe moment. Next we have the strip moment. Mariah giving TEOM vibes. Mix of TEOM and E=MC2 actually. Mariah with Ellen. (Wednesday 23 November 2016; 18:17)

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